Kobe case may be dismissed

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » September 1, 2004, 7:21 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/01/bryan ... index.html

EAGLE, Colorado (CNN) -- On the same day attorneys in the Kobe Bryant sexual assault trial finished closed-door questioning of potential jurors, the defense Wednesday made a request to dismiss the charge against him and end the trial.

interesting to see how this pans out....

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 1, 2004, 7:27 pm

Ive been saying for months that the case will be dismissed, but isnt the defense obligated to request a dismissal before jury selection?

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » September 1, 2004, 7:30 pm

That article has it wrong I think, according to this site, it's the prosecutors that are filing the motion.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/US/k ... 901-1.html

E A G L E, Colo., Sept. 1, 2004 — Prosecutors will file a motion this afternoon to dismiss the sexual assault charge against Kobe Bryant, according to sources familiar with the case.

The motion will say that the request is based on an agreement between the prosecution and the alleged victim. The young woman has told prosecutors she is no longer willing to testify, sources told ABC News.

Prosecutors will ask that the charge be dismissed with prejudice, meaning that it can never be brought again. A news conference with prosecutor Mark Hurlbert is scheduled for 7 p.m. ET.

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » September 1, 2004, 7:32 pm

Yes, it is apparently the prosecution filing for dismissal. Additionally, I don't think that the defense is obligated to request a dismissal.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 1, 2004, 7:34 pm

Yah I heard prosecution as well on Sportscenter earlier.. very interesting. Also will be interesting to see what impact this will have on the civil case.

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » September 1, 2004, 8:07 pm

Yes it's the prosecution requesting the charges be dropped because the accuser has told the prosection she won't testify.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » September 1, 2004, 8:08 pm

Fucking Muslims.

Stalker Vacio · Post by **Stalker Vacio** » September 1, 2004, 8:20 pm

http://www.courts.state.co.us/exec/medi ... earing.pdf

Go KOBE!!!!

noel · Post by **noel** » September 1, 2004, 8:22 pm

Took long enough.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » September 1, 2004, 8:24 pm

That is a pretty big misprint for CNN.

noel · Post by **noel** » September 1, 2004, 8:25 pm

Canelek wrote:That is a pretty big misprint for CNN.

Fucking Muslims!

(actually I have inside information that tells me that will be the last time Voronwe is allowed to edit the web page)

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » September 1, 2004, 10:24 pm

? in regards to Voro editing..

noel · Post by **noel** » September 1, 2004, 10:59 pm

Akaran_D wrote:? in regards to Voro editing..

It's what is commonly referred to as a sarcastic joke.

Voro, when you see this if you could reply with your usual wit and sarcasm as though I didn't reveal my post being a sarcastic joke, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks!

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » September 1, 2004, 11:33 pm

I figured it was, but I think I missed the joke. =p

Sueven · Post by **Sueven** » September 1, 2004, 11:41 pm

Voro works for CNN. CNN had a mistake on their webpage. Thus, noel blamed Voro.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » September 1, 2004, 11:58 pm

Ah. What was the mistake?

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 1, 2004, 11:59 pm

They wrote the defenders seeked charges to be dropped. It was the prosecution. Pretty big difference heh.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » September 2, 2004, 12:05 am

I don't get why he apologized to the girl if he is innocent.

"I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year," the statement said. (Read full statement)

Although Bryant stopped short of acknowledging guilt, he did acknowledge the alleged victim's viewpoint.

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did."

So he admits she sees things differently than he does? That right there tells me she was not gold digging if he honestly believes his own words. If he admits she has a different viewpoint of events than he does, then he admits she was not gold digging, and also at least partially admits to some blame. By his statement, he is guilty in my book.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » September 2, 2004, 3:12 am

more than likely a statement like that would be because of an agreement the prosecution made with the defense in order to drop the case. he didn't admit guilt but he didn't say she is lying. otherwise his lawyer would have never in a million years have allowed him to say something like that.

Silvarel Mistmoon · Post by **Silvarel Mistmoon** » September 2, 2004, 3:17 am

A man innocent of rape would not make these statements.

Bryant: 'I want to apologize' to the young woman
Wednesday, September 1, 2004 Posted: 10:33 PM EDT (0233 GMT)

Kobe Bryant leaves court Wednesday.

EAGLE, Colorado (CNN) -- The following is the statement issued by Kobe Bryant after the announcement that the woman who accused him of sexual assault would not proceed with the criminal case.

His attorney, Pamela Mackey, read the statement at a late-afternoon court hearing.

The alleged victim said Bryant assaulted her June 30 at the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera where the woman worked at the front desk. Her civil lawsuit against Bryant remains in place.

"First, I want to apologize directly to the young woman involved in this incident. I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure.

"I also want to apologize to her parents and family members, and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle, Colorado.

"I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives of this young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil case.

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way that I did.

"After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even hearing her testify in person, I now understand how she sincerely feels that she did not consent to the encounter.

"I issue this statement today fully aware that while one part of this case ends today, another remains. I understand that the civil case against me will go forward. That part of this case will be decided by and between the parties directly involved in the incident and will no longer be a financial or emotional drain on the citizens of the state of Colorado."

It took him months to discover this?

I call bullshit! Had he not been a big basketball star no one would have believed him to begin with.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 2, 2004, 8:08 am

Another Guilty man walks Ala O.J>

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » September 2, 2004, 8:37 am

The statement was made and worded thus, because it was in agreement to NOT use it in the civil suit, and that the wording, apology if you will, was part of the criminal case being dropped.

Either way, it screams guilty to me.

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » September 2, 2004, 9:33 am

Kluden wrote:The statement was made and worded thus, because it was in agreement to NOT use it in the civil suit, and that the wording, apology if you will, was part of the criminal case being dropped.

Either way, it screams guilty to me.

Eh? The charges are being dropped. How does that SCREAM guilty? He was forced to make a statement that the prosecution and defense agreed to; this wasn't some touching last minute realization that he had treated the girl wrong.

The fact that the civil case is still going forward makes this look bad now. If he really was guilty, I would rather see him in jail then I would see him fork over a few million in cash that he probably won't even notice is missing.

Post by **Sylvus** » September 2, 2004, 10:49 am

I don't know, I don't think the statement screams of guilt or anything like it. If anything it's supposed to make him look better, with him seeming compassionate that he feels bad that some 20 year-old girl who is not a celebrity has been played out to be a whore for the last year in the media, as well as the death threats she's received from Kobe fans and all that bullshit.

He says right in it that he still thinks it was consensual, only that he now understands that she views it differently. I think that line is mostly there to support the line before it, where he says that he doesn't question the girl's motives and he didn't pay her anything to drop the case.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 2, 2004, 11:42 am

Yah I agree with the Sylvus! Also, today people near him say he will fight the civil case with everything he's got and that he feels he did NOTHING wrong that night. So I don't think it should be taken as admitting guilt whatsoever.

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » September 2, 2004, 11:54 am

To me, I took the statement as: Yes, I agree that she saw it as non-consensual. To me, that means he understands, and agrees, that to her, he is guilty. That to me makes him guilty in my eyes.

If you honestly fealt you were innocent, you would never understand the other party's "point of view". To your pictured innocence, their point of view is crazy....since your innocent, right?

Besides, it doesn't matter anymore. I feel he is guilty, but that means nothing. He is free to walk the life he chooses.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 2, 2004, 12:03 pm

Kluden wrote:To me, I took the statement as: Yes, I agree that she saw it as non-consensual. To me, that means he understands, and agrees, that to her, he is guilty. That to me makes him guilty in my eyes.

If you honestly fealt you were innocent, you would never understand the other party's "point of view". To your pictured innocence, their point of view is crazy....since your innocent, right?

Besides, it doesn't matter anymore. I feel he is guilty, but that means nothing. He is free to walk the life he chooses.

Maybe he can Golf with OJ

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 2, 2004, 12:10 pm

Supposedly the girl demanded the "apology" to be put into the statement for the case to be dismissed. Guess when you are facing possibly life in prison you'll do quite a bit to preserve your freedom.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » September 2, 2004, 12:20 pm

Kelshara wrote:Supposedly the girl demanded the "apology" to be put into the statement for the case to be dismissed. Guess when you are facing possibly life in prison you'll do quite a bit to preserve your freedom.

Expecialy when you know your guilty.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » September 2, 2004, 1:26 pm

I'm not so sure he is. I am also not so sure he isn't. In this case, the "Victim" has people who were her friends but evidently aren't any longer testifying as to her past behaviors, a desire at one point to drive to Vail from Greeley to do the same sort of thing with Eminem, and also a number of other 'drama' related behaviors to try to regain her ex-boyfriends affections.

I persoanlly think this girl is quite damaged, and that it happened long ago, quite awhile back before Kobe. I do not know what happened in the room, no one but the two of them do, but I will say that legally, not enough evidence existed to secure a conviction.

Combine this with the suspiscious events/actions on the part of the accuser and I have grown more than a reasonable doubt that any rape occured.