EQers and Bush Bashing

Utchoomawa · Post by **Utchoomawa** » August 22, 2004, 12:11 am

It's humorous to me that so many players of EQ are Bush bashers. Does that mean you are Democrats or does that mean you are just the type that likes to bash the president no matter what political affiliation?

Probably 70% of the EQ-playing Bush-bashers are 28 or younger, living with eir parents, or on welfare. They probably know nothing of politics or world affairs. Everytime I approach someone who bashes Bush, I get the typical response "He invaded Iraq to steal the Oil."

That response is the hallmark of somebody that does not watch the news, does not read the newspaper and in general has no clue. This is the type of person that also bashes police, teachers, professors, etc. They have no idea what they are talking about, they just want to join the "good fight" and sound cool to the rest of the the people in their social circle.

The second type of Bush-basher is the idealist-pacifist. They may or may not read/watch the news on a regular basis, but they are much more informed than the "type one". The idealist believes war is a wicked thing and every country participating in it have evil leaders with intentions fueled by greed and lust for power. The fact is that war is not wicked, it is unfortunate and lamentable. However, war is necessary. I would like to see how many bashers would be singing the same tune if fundamental islamic governments spread over the entire middle east. Would they be crying the same river if gasoline cost $7 a gallon? Have you forgotten September 11th already? http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm

Go ahead, vote for Kerry. The fact is everytime a liberal wins the presidency, all the hippies fool themselves into believing things are running smoothly. Ever see Blackhawk Down? Those guys were slaughtered due to democrats unwilling to commit enough troops to get the job done correctly. Remember the USS Cole bombing? Nothing was really done to those responsible. Democrats like to make money for the country while leaving an exposed back to all the terrorists, rebels, militias, etc.

I'd rather have a stable government free of exploding buildings than a government with no deficit, but with terrorsts blowing shit up all around me.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 22, 2004, 12:20 am

I don't consider this a current event.

Ever see Blackhawk Down? Those guys were slaughtered due to democrats unwilling to commit enough troops to get the job done correctly

Actually, they were slaughtered because Orlando Bloom fell out of the BlackHawk.

Drasta · Post by **Drasta** » August 22, 2004, 12:24 am

umm dude ... the people of veeshan arn't stupid ... well most of them and most of them have children

VariaVespasa · Post by **VariaVespasa** » August 22, 2004, 12:27 am

*Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwn*

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » August 22, 2004, 12:27 am

Heh, yah we are all on welfare, who's the ignorant one?

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » August 22, 2004, 12:44 am

Since this abortion of a thread is already a peice of shit, here's a picture of a hamster.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » August 22, 2004, 12:49 am

Okay, so i guess you labeled the two types of bush-bashers, here are the 2 major types of Bush supporters!

1. Rednecks("patriots" "conservatives")-usually racist, often imbread ignorant and/or just flat out moronic Americans who usually live in trailers and have a very low level of formal education. They are usually unfathomably ignorant when it comes to cultural knowledge, and know little about the world outside of there trailer parks. They support Bush mainly because thats what there told to do, they also see one of there own, one who is to cowardly to fight for his country, but is willing to send thousands of americans in his stead

2. Religious Fanatics ("neocons" "the religious right")- Blind, ignorant and filled with a self-rightious arragant form of megalomania almost. They believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong, although most of them are victims of brainwashing themselves. They hate social freedoms that there personal belifs dont look brightly apon, and go out of there way to try opress other members of the american public by embracing censorship and "morallity" "family values" that border facioust laws. They are afraid of progression and facing the reality that life brings, deep down inside these people are afriad of the truth and will do everything they can to bury in lies and false ideologys.

Karae · Post by **Karae** » August 22, 2004, 12:53 am

Welcome to the boards, another_conservative_idiot. You'll fit in nicely with those we already have.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » August 22, 2004, 12:53 am

Niffoni wrote:

Now that made me laugh

Wonko Wenusberg · Post by **Wonko Wenusberg** » August 22, 2004, 12:58 am

Fear is the new pie

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 22, 2004, 1:15 am

Karae wrote:Welcome to the boards, another_conservative_idiot. You'll fit in nicely with those we already have.

It will take awhile to catch up to liberal_pussy_519293 on this board.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » August 22, 2004, 1:22 am

Have you forgotten September 11th already?

I'm still getting over the war of 1812

Etasi · Post by **Etasi** » August 22, 2004, 2:58 am

Who the fuck are you? As if the board needed another mindless, partisan sycophant. Liberal hippies! Hurrrrrrrrrr.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 22, 2004, 3:18 am

oh great midnyte finally convinced his boyfriend to post here. i'm so happy. by all means keep talking about how poor and stupid we are while your hero can't even pronounce simplistic 3 syllable words or form a coherant sentence.

also if you can find larger and gayer avatar pictures feel free to post them up, because nothing is cooler than 300k animated gifs. is this your first day on the internet?

Drolgin Steingrinder · August 22, 2004, 7:10 am

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » August 22, 2004, 10:00 am

Utchoomawa wrote:Would they be crying the same river if gasoline cost $7 a gallon? Have you forgotten September 11th already? http://members.cox.net/classicweb/email.htm

There's 2 fucking minutes I'll never get back again. What's the relationship between gas prices and 9/11? What's the relationship between quoting Samuel fucking Adams and islamic terrorists? Remembering, that in the war he was talking about England was the empire and patriots were the terrorists.. It's all in your point of view.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 22, 2004, 2:39 pm

Hey he takes the movie "Back Hawk Down" as gospel.. that says all I need to know.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 22, 2004, 2:45 pm

Utch, I understand what you are getting at. The others do too. But, they like to bash the shit out of people hoping you stop posting, so they don't have to confront an opposing view point.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » August 22, 2004, 3:08 pm

Utch, you forget the Bush Basher type 3, the non-US people.

There are plenty of non-US people on these boards, people who unlike certain american presidents DO have an interesting in seeing how the world outside our own borders look.
And when looking at the US under Bush, it look BAD. I cant vote in the US, i can only hope the ÚS people are smart enough to see how Bush are harming their country.
Even on the boards here, we got the narrowminded Bush followers, who think that US are the greatest, we dont need anyone else, we shouldnt care what goes on around us, and we can attack whoever we want, because were the best. Thats a VERY dangerous attitude, but when the LEADER of a country got that attitude, it can cause the world, AND the US a lot of problems, which to some degree it already have (environmental, US new nuke programs, war, and in the US echonomic problems).

I havent seen you on these boards before, it it seems like youre Midnytes brother or something. Youre of course free to post here, but dont expect the people (apart from 5 or 6 likeminded persons) to like you.

VariaVespasa · Post by **VariaVespasa** » August 22, 2004, 5:08 pm

Fer the love of god, DONT FEED THE NEW TROLL, dumbasses.
Its bad enough that we feed Midnyte, but at least he has a certain longevity and tradition behind him. We dont need a new troll, especially one thats so blatant and, well, boring, tired and hackneyed. This is VV, we like talent, so if you're gonna feed the trolls at least only feed the good ones...

*Hugs*
Varia

Ransure · Post by **Ransure** » August 22, 2004, 8:13 pm

Drolgin Steingrinder wrote:

/agree

Adex_Xeda · Post by **Adex_Xeda** » August 22, 2004, 11:14 pm

I find the people here are well read.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » August 22, 2004, 11:15 pm

Adex_Xeda wrote:I find the people here are well read.

Agreed. There are some quacks on both wings pelting each other with dookie, but on the whole people at least know their shit even if you don't agree with them.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » August 22, 2004, 11:27 pm

Xzion wrote:Okay, so i guess you labeled the two types of bush-bashers, here are the 2 major types of Bush supporters!

1. Rednecks("patriots" "conservatives")-usually racist, often imbread ignorant and/or just flat out moronic Americans who usually live in trailers and have a very low level of formal education. They are usually unfathomably ignorant when it comes to cultural knowledge, and know little about the world outside of there trailer parks. They support Bush mainly because thats what there told to do, they also see one of there own, one who is to cowardly to fight for his country, but is willing to send thousands of americans in his stead

2. Religious Fanatics ("neocons" "the religious right")- Blind, ignorant and filled with a self-rightious arragant form of megalomania almost. They believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong, although most of them are victims of brainwashing themselves. They hate social freedoms that there personal belifs dont look brightly apon, and go out of there way to try opress other members of the american public by embracing censorship and "morallity" "family values" that border facioust laws. They are afraid of progression and facing the reality that life brings, deep down inside these people are afriad of the truth and will do everything they can to bury in lies and false ideologys.

Add to this:
3. Old Money ("Corperations" "The Filthy Rich" or if you are Bush, "My Base")- These people have assloads of money, almost always aquired by inherritance or some other legacy source. Another variotion on this are the Corperate Raiders, CEOs who lay off thousands to pump their personal earnings and deliberately torpedo their own companies to pump their stock to sell before moving on to the next victim. They hate true free enterprise, building monopolistic power whenever they can get away with it. They have zero concern for anything long term, aside from their personal net worth. They are all for outsourcing to cheap low safety standard labor countries and pump mind boggling amounts of money into the GOP, sometimes by way of lobbyists or bankrolling Conservative "Think Tanks". Sometimes they use their personal monopolies over media conglomerates to excercise pushing party agenda or censorship of opposing viewpoints. These people are arrogant, often suprisingly unintelligent and uneducated, given their means, and view most ordinary people as completely beneath them. Their agenda within the GOP is to gain less taxes and breaking down laws that obstruct their ability to make even more money, such as environmental regulations or federal trade restrictions. They also work towards the erosion of the well educated middle class, who are the major demographic opposing their efforts politically and fiscally. Like the rednecks, they have no interest in fighting in any of the countries wars (except in circumstances like Bush Sr Serving in WW2 to make ammends for his family getting busted for War Proffiteering with the Nazis), but zero qualms about sending our troops into harms way when it serves their goals.

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » August 23, 2004, 3:00 am

That response is the hallmark of somebody that does not watch the news, does not read the newspaper and in general has no clue.

Or maybe it is the hallmark of someone that does not need a newspaper, TV or other media info to tell them how to think.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » August 23, 2004, 10:24 am

Midnyte's gay goo gobbler got a computer? I thought the gimp was still tied and bound in a leather outfit..

miir · Post by **miir** » August 23, 2004, 10:49 am

But, they like to bash the shit out of people hoping you stop posting, so they don't have to confront an opposing view point.

Actually, we want people like you to keep posting.
It makes our arguments and points of view even stronger when nitwits like this post.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 23, 2004, 10:49 am

You guys and your silly labels. I would think that the liberals on this board, well the smarter/creative ones (read Jice) would have not stooped to the level of this obviously idiotic poster who started this thread. Stereotypes are COOL. Generalizing is AWESOME.
How about not all Conservative Republicans are rednecks, or inbred or perhaps even racist. Lets pretend for a second that everyone has their own opinion and has a right to that opinion. While some of us may in fact come from well off familys that enjoy staying well off does not mean we are Eco-terrorist, monopoly forming, corporate overlord, baby eatting Bush supporters. I'm a Roman Catholic Conservative Republican. That doesn't mean I am a religious zealot or think all them "blackies" need to go back to Africa. I know this is a foreign concept to some of you liberals but some of us conservatives can actually think for ourselves.
I DIDN'T WENT TO SKOOL FOR NUTHIN!"
I do not think Bush is great. Frankly, I think Bush is not a good president - he lacks public speaking skills and charisma which is essential to the office he is in. He is not a diplomat. However looking at Kerry, he is not the Liberal Messiah. I doubt he'd be a better president either. It's all a political wash as far as I am concerned this go around. Even if you win, you still lose.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » August 23, 2004, 11:17 am

Don't let them bother you Utchoomawa...

Some people make themselves feel good by trying to belittle people for an opinion different from their own.

They get even more pissed off when you don't take the bait, since they wasted their time typing out statements like:

I havent seen you on these boards before, it it seems like youre Midnytes brother or something. Youre of course free to post here, but dont expect the people (apart from 5 or 6 likeminded persons) to like you.

Hating someone because they have a different opinion or political affiliation than you do? That's plainly stupidity.

Hesten, you don't live here, you can't vote here, but you are going to be a hater because someone chooses to vote for someone in their country that you don't agree with? Are you really that lame?

I might not agree with someone's opinion, but as long as it's something sane I will respect it. Hating someone for their opinion is ignorance at it's best.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · August 23, 2004, 11:19 am

Siji wrote:Midnyte's gay goo gobbler got a computer? I thought the gimp was still tied and bound in a leather outfit..

Wow, what a sensitive non-gay hating thing to say. Damn you liberals show your true colors sometimes.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 23, 2004, 11:21 am

Have you read his other posts Aruman? Like the Islam Nazi picture? Those aren't sane, just bigoted and moronic.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 23, 2004, 11:27 am

Well if you read that thread Lynks you would see that Midnyte pretty much applauded that picture. Of course, then there is Aruman who posted the "More proof of flip-flopping" or whatever thread and never posted again on it since he got his ass so royally kicked it probably kept him from sitting for a few days.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » August 23, 2004, 12:22 pm

Whatever Kelshara...

You see things as ROFL look at how badly I flamed someone and laughed at them hahaha! Look at how cool I think I am.

Me, I saw it as someone redirecting the attention away from what I posted.

It still doesn't change the fact that Kerry changes his opinions on way too many issues just to further his political campaign.

The difference is, Bush may have changed his position on things, but he is doing it while he is IN office. If what he does in office isn't agreeable, then he will pay for it in votes.

Kerry is out to kiss peoples asses to get votes, no respect for that at all.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 23, 2004, 12:24 pm

- You post "More proof about flop-flopping!"

- Everybody else posts "Erh he said he would do again what he did, how is that flip-flop?"

- You knew you couldn't argue with that and stayed away.

Sorry, you lose.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · August 23, 2004, 12:30 pm

Kelshara wrote:- You post "More proof about flop-flopping!"

- Everybody else posts "Erh he said he would do again what he did, how is that flip-flop?"

- You knew you couldn't argue with that and stayed away.

Sorry, you lose.

Actually...

George W. Bush is not necessarily the wittiest man to campaign for president since Abraham Lincoln's dry wit drove his detractors to distraction, but he's capable of the occasional zinger. When John Kerry finally answered a crucial question posed by the president and said that, yes, he would have voted to go into Iraq to depose Saddam Hussein even if he knew he wouldn't find a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction, the president replied with deadly deadpan:
"I want to thank Senator Kerry for clearing that up," he said. "Although there are still 84 days left in the campaign."

In this post Aruman started, I found the funny in it. I guess if you don't prejudge the content before you read it, you can understand what someone else is getting at. Kerry HAS flip flopped multiple times on this particlar issue. His latest stance is above. Bush's quip, is fucking funny. Period. You lose.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » August 23, 2004, 12:31 pm

Kelshara wrote:- You post "More proof about flop-flopping!"

- Everybody else posts "Erh he said he would do again what he did, how is that flip-flop?"

- You knew you couldn't argue with that and stayed away.

Sorry, you lose.

Heh... selective reading is the mind killer...

I posted that as a link to Kerry saying he would have invaded Iraq even if he knew there were no WMD.

President Bush invaded because he believed that Iraq had WMD.

I'm fairly certain Kerry has been beating on President Bush for invading Iraq and not finding WMD.

You decide.

It's not a matter of winning or losing Kelshara.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » August 23, 2004, 12:35 pm

Utchoomawa wrote: I'd rather have a stable government free of exploding buildings than a government with no deficit, but with terrorsts blowing shit up all around me.

You do realize that the said buildings blew up with your pres in office don't you?
You also realize that just because this current president is "fighting terrorism" (albeit in the wrong countries), there's nothing saying his eventual replacement won't either?

This EQ player is 34, I own my condo and I earn more money in one year than you will in three. But I guess that shouldn't be surprising this this rest of your post was dellusional as well.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 23, 2004, 12:38 pm

I posted that as a link to Kerry saying he would have invaded Iraq even if he knew there were no WMD.

Actually he said he would vote again to give the President the power. There is a slight difference there. He has also clearly stated that he would not have gone about it the same way as Bush did.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » August 23, 2004, 1:58 pm

Kelshara wrote:
I posted that as a link to Kerry saying he would have invaded Iraq even if he knew there were no WMD.
Actually he said he would vote again to give the President the power. There is a slight difference there.

He has also clearly stated that he would not have gone about it the same way as Bush did.

Of course he says wouldn't go about it in the same way as Bush. That's easy to say after the fact, and he's obviously in ass kissing mode.

Do you think the President comes up with the military tactics? The president gives approval or disapproval, he doesn't come up with the strategy.

So how can Kerry claim he would have 'done it differently'. That's just lip service.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 23, 2004, 2:12 pm

Aruman wrote:
Kelshara wrote:
I posted that as a link to Kerry saying he would have invaded Iraq even if he knew there were no WMD.
Actually he said he would vote again to give the President the power. There is a slight difference there.

He has also clearly stated that he would not have gone about it the same way as Bush did.
Of course he says wouldn't go about it in the same way as Bush. That's easy to say after the fact, and he's obviously in ass kissing mode.

Do you think the President comes up with the military tactics? The president gives approval or disapproval, he doesn't come up with the strategy.

So how can Kerry claim he would have 'done it differently'. That's just lip service.

No Aruman. This can't just be lip service. Don't you get it? Kerry is not Bush. Therefore he is better. Therefore when he says things it is truth and not a lie. If he lies it's not a lie, it's misinformation. Being not Bush, gives you all sorts of lattitude Bush would possibly get. And if you call it hipocritical, then you are a cum guzzling faggot, bigot, red neck, white trash, fascist neocon!!!!

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » August 23, 2004, 2:21 pm

Shh.. lay down before you hurt yourself.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 23, 2004, 2:49 pm

I just call you an embaressment that you share the same political party as I do Midnyte.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » August 23, 2004, 3:05 pm

Sylvos wrote:I just call you an embaressment that you share the same political party as I do Midnyte.

Well, I'm sorry for you that you feel that way.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » August 23, 2004, 3:32 pm

Do you think the President comes up with the military tactics?

Actually, when it comes to Bush I don't think he comes up with anything. I think he is a puppet on a string for the people surrounding him, which is why I've also said a douzen times that it is those people I strongly dislike and not Bush as a person.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » August 23, 2004, 3:54 pm

gays are worse than witches!!!!!!!!!!111

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » August 24, 2004, 9:43 am

The Bush-haters here are all in very good company it seems...

North Korea hurled invective at President Bush for a second day Tuesday, calling him a political idiot and human trash

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... &e=2&ncid=

Siji · Post by **Siji** » August 24, 2004, 11:41 am

Because Bush has God on his side, it doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks of us. Haven't you been keeping up? We're invincible!

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