Reserve Torturing Whore "She said it was more for fun&q

[Kylere]

Okay I remember some of you trying to blame it on higher ups, orders etc. Now the truth is coming out, this was some sick shit pulled by weekend warriors who shamed their nation, their uniform, the United States Army, the units, and the human fucking race. Now what do you want to pawn if off on? Get out of denial, this is about shitty fucking reservist, mostly civilian scumbags.



http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/04/national/04abus.html
FORT BRAGG, N.C., Aug. 3 - She is the last but best known of seven accused soldiers to enter a military courtroom on charges of prisoner abuse that have disgraced the armed services.

Pfc. Lynndie R. England, the grinning face of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, appeared on Tuesday before a military judge who will determine whether she should face a court-martial on 19 charges of assault, misconduct, and posing for what the military termed "numerous wrongful photographs," including the now infamous one of her holding a naked prisoner on a leash.

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Private England, 21 and six months pregnant, sat mostly expressionless as two military investigators described a carnival-like mentality among soldiers at the Iraqi prison where mistreatment of detainees and sexual high jinks were carried out with equal giddiness.

"From the get-go, it seemed like it was just a joke," said Special Agent Paul D. Arthur, who was the lead investigator into the abuse, describing Private England's description of the mistreatment in two sworn statements. "They didn't think it was that big a deal, they were just joking around."

"Kind of to vent their frustration," Special Agent Arthur added. But he noted that Private England herself did not express any frustration: "She said it was more for fun."

Private England, wearing a maternity version of military camouflage, appeared to suppress a smile as investigators described a videotape that showed her having sex with Cpl. Charles Graner, who prosecutors say was a ringleader of the abuse and Private England says is the father of the child she is carrying. Her mother sat stern-faced in the observation gallery, her eyes darting from the witness stand to her daughter as an investigator described photographs of Private England topless and engaged in what he called oral sex.

Investigators said they discovered 1,000 photographs and additional videos on computers owned by various soldiers. About 280 photos, interspersed with travelogue shots of Iraq and Kuwait, showed detainees being sexually humiliated or mistreated, or soldiers engaged in various kinds of sexually inflected misconduct.

In one photograph, a detainee cowers against the bared teeth of a military dog; in another, a prisoner stands hooded on a box with wires attached to his genitals. There is a series showing soldiers imitating oral sex with a banana, or waving their genitals alongside the face of a comrade napping on a couch.

Private England's lawyers, like those for the other military police soldiers who have already been ordered to face courts-martial, have said she was acting on orders from military intelligence to "loosen up" detainees so they would say more in interrogations. The lawyers argue that military intelligence personnel, and therefore the military police who served as prison guards in the interrogation wing, were under pressure from as high as the White House to get detainees to give up more information. They tried to press that case in their cross-examination of the two investigators on Tuesday.

But both said there was no evidence that the abused detainees had any value to military intelligence - most were common criminals, not terrorists. The majority, Special Agent Arthur testified, were never even interrogated. And they noted that Private England was assigned to an administrative job, not to the wing where the abuses on film occurred. She has told investigators she went there to visit Corporal Graner.

The investigators said that none of the accused soldiers had been able to recall the names of anyone who had given the orders. And known techniques to encourage interrogations did not include the acts depicted in the most graphic photographs - piling naked detainees in a human pyramid, or forcing them to masturbate.

Special Agent Warren Worth, the other investigator, said he had interviewed military intelligence soldiers. "I found nothing to suggest they were aware of any of the events we've spoken of today," he testified.

[Zaelath]

He said, she said, it was more for fun.

ie, in for this particular reservist scumbag, she was brought onto the scene by her mates that worked there. So, she's a fool, but I fail to see how that exhonorates anyone.

[Siji]

investigators described a videotape that showed her having sex with Cpl. Charles Graner, who prosecutors say was a ringleader of the abuse and Private England says is the father of the child she is carrying. Her mother sat stern-faced in the observation gallery, her eyes darting from the witness stand to her daughter as an investigator described photographs of Private England topless and engaged in what he called oral sex.

link plzkthx!

[Ransure]

Wow.... she really is a whore... definately deserves a courtmartial and worse...

[Bojangels]

There is a series showing soldiers imitating oral sex with a banana

How do you imitate oral sex with a banana? Doesn't everyone eat them like that??

[Ceredwin]

The officers above them are still responsible. It sounds like the place was used as a frat house, amazing that they got away with so much.

[Drolgin Steingrinder]

Private England, 21 and six months pregnant, sat mostly expressionless as two military investigators described a carnival-like mentality among soldiers at the Iraqi prison where mistreatment of detainees and sexual high jinks were carried out with equal giddiness.

Are you fucking kidding me? Sexual high jinks? I damn sure hope this is the journalist talking about a circle jerk in the staff room or something, because describing the sexual humiliation of those prisoners as 'high jinks' would be like me saying that 9/11 was just a teenage prank gone too far.

[Bojangels]

Sounds to me like he was referring to them separately, as in the humiliation of the prisoners, and the deep-throating bananas / teabagging, whatever, that they were doing amongst themselves.

I don't think putting your balls next to a guys face while he's sleeping can really be compared to 9/11, but I've never had it done to me so maybe I can't make that call.

[Kylere]

Bpjangels, culturally in the US it is shameful to have that happen, and may make people want to fight, in Islamic culture it may make them commit suicide

[Trek]

Is it 9/11? no. But it does not take away from vileness of the actions. I hope they get whats coming to em.

[Cartalas]

Bpjangels, culturally in the US it is shameful to have that happen, and may make people want to fight, in Islamic culture it may make them commit suicide

Great Then Mission accomplished.

[masteen]

This is white trash at it's finest. PFC England can't even say for certain who the father of her baby is.

[noel]

She'll get to you eventually Masteen.

[Kylere]

You have to wonder if West Virginia will talk about standing behind her now...

[Kelshara]

I think Kylere is in the reserve but wont admit it!

[Kylere]

I think Kylere is in the reserve but wont admit it!

Actually no, I served on Active Duty for 8 years, which means I do not even have an IRR commitment.

[kyoukan]

they'd have to give you a pair of schwarzkopf's camo pants if they did re-enlist you.

[Sylvos]

that's just disgusting, always good to have a military sex scandal before an election.
Smart...

[Eleani]

Private England, wearing a maternity version of military camouflage, appeared to suppress a smile as investigators described a videotape that showed her having sex with Cpl. Charles Graner, who prosecutors say was a ringleader of the abuse and Private England says is the father of the child she is carrying.

As the Prison Turns...


We get outraged and incensed over what they've done to our soldiers and our civilians. We ought to be equally outraged and incensed over the things these people have done. We claim to be the humanitarians, the better of the two countries... yet things like this occur. Its truly horrible.

[Kylere]

they'd have to give you a pair of schwarzkopf's camo pants if they did re-enlist you.

Actually your moroness, I fit in my uniforms from when I got out.