People in the 2004 All-Star Game

IeailandDokktur · Post by **IeailandDokktur** » July 9, 2004, 2:05 am

Who do you think should be in it this year and isnt? - Or do you think the All-Star team is perfect?

NATIONAL LEAGUE ---------------

Player, Team .AVG HR RBIs ============ ---- -- ---

Starters ------- C -- Mike Piazza, New York .309 16 40 1B -- Albert Pujols, St. Louis .303 21 58 2B -- Jeff Kent, Houston .293 10 52 SS -- Edgar Renteria, St. Louis .283 4 34 3B -- Scott Rolen, St. Louis .344 18 78 OF -- Barry Bonds, San Francisco .352 22 46 OF -- Ken Griffey, Jr., Cincinnati .246 19 55 OF -- Sammy Sosa, Chicago .271 14 33

Reserves --------

C -- Johnny Estrada, Atlanta .328 4 45 C -- Paul Lo Duca, Los Angeles .312 6 35 1B -- Jim Thome, Philadelphia .299 27 58 1B -- Sean Casey, Cincinnati .352 15 54 1B -- Todd Helton, Colorado .352 15 53 2B -- Mark Loretta, San Diego .320 6 34 3B -- Mike Lowell, Florida .300 19 51 SS -- Barry Larkin, Cincinnati .294 4 30 SS -- Jack Wilson, Pittsburgh .339 8 34 OF -- Moises Alou, Chicago .286 19 49 OF -- Lance Berkman, Houston .304 16 59 OF -- Miguel Cabrera, Florida .294 20 55

Pitchers W-L ERA SV -------- --- --- -- SP -- Roger Clemens, Houston 10-2 2.63 SP -- Tom Glavine, New York 7-5 2.16 SP -- Livan Hernandez, Montreal 6-7 3.23 SP -- Randy Johnson, Arizona 10-6 2.90 SP -- Carl Pavano, Florida 9-3 2.92 SP -- Jason Schmidt, San Francisco 10-2 2.61 SP -- Ben Sheets, Milwaukee 7-5 2.58 SP -- Carlos Zambrano, Chicago 9-3 2.41 RP -- Armando Benitez, Florida 2-0 1.07 27 RP -- Eric Gagne, Los Angeles 2-0 1.54 21 RP -- Danny Graves, Cincinnati 1-3 2.89 31 RP -- Danny Kolb,

--------------------------------------------------------AMERICAN LEAGUE ---------------

Player, Team .AVG HR RBIs ============ ---- -- ---

Starters -------- C -- Ivan Rodriguez, Detroit .377 10 57 1B -- Jason Giambi, New York .238 11 31 2B -- Alfonso Soriano, Texas .294 14 50 SS -- Derek Jeter, New York .278 13 41 3B -- Alex Rodriguez, New York .273 19 50 OF -- Manny Ramirez, Boston .340 22 65 OF -- Vladimir Guerrero, Anaheim .347 20 71 OF -- Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle .318 3 30

Reserves -------- C -- Victor Martinez, Cleveland .299 12 60 1B -- Ken Harvey, Kansas City .328 10 34 1B -- David Ortiz, Boston .306 22 76 2B -- Ron Belliard, Cleveland. .316 5 34 3B -- Hank Blalock, Texas .314 22 61 SS -- Carlos Guillen, Detroit .324 11 57 SS -- Miguel Tejada, Baltimore .315 15 69 SS -- Michael Young, Texas .331 11 49 OF -- Carl Crawford, Tampa Bay .316 4 32 OF -- Matt Lawton, Cleveland .317 14 48 OF -- Gary Sheffield, New York .300 13 53 Pitchers W-L ERA SV -------- --- --- -- SP -- Tim Hudson, Oakland 7-3 2.98 SP -- Ted Lilly, Toronto 7-5 4.01 SP -- Esteban Loaiza, Chicago 8-4 4.37 SP -- Mark Mulder, Oakland 11-2 2.95 SP -- Kenny Rogers, Texas 11-2 3.42 SP -- C.C. Sabathia, Cleveland 5-3 2.77 SP -- Curt Schilling, Boston 11-4 3.08 RP -- Francisco Cordero, Texas 2-0 1.80 24 RP -- Tom Gordon, New York 2-3 1.66 2 RP -- Joe Nathan, Minnesota 1-0 1.19 23 RP -- Mariano Rivera, New York 0-0 0.87 29 RP -- Francisco Rodriguez, Anaheim 1-1 1.04 7

Information off of -ESPN-

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » July 9, 2004, 2:13 am

Beltran got left off because of his trade, other then him you'd be hard pressed to find a clear reason another player besides those listed should be in

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » July 9, 2004, 2:38 am

Well, Mike Piazza shouldn't be the starting catcher. He's played 1st all year.

I really don't like Bud Selig's decision on Beltran. At least he can't declare a tie this year since "this one counts."

Aevian Dreaklear · Post by **Aevian Dreaklear** » July 9, 2004, 1:29 pm

The biggest beef I have is Jason Giambi starting. In no way should he be started this year's all star games. His numbers are crap this season. Ken Harvey (who 75% of all-star voters never heard of) should be starting, or David Ortiz.

flankmen · Post by **flankmen** » July 9, 2004, 3:09 pm

I'll take either Adrian Beltre (.322, 22HR, 55RBI) or Aramis Ramirez(.326, 15HR, 56RBI) over Barry Larkin in the NL. Barry's one of the best at his position over the last 20 years... but I'm not a fan of someone being 'grandfathered' into the all star game. He's not having an all-star year.
Do they still have a rule about every team being represented? I'm assuming that's the only reason Ted Lily and Esteban Loaiza made the team over Pedro Martinez (8-3, 3.74ERA, 105Ks).

The biggest beef I have is Jason Giambi starting.

Starting? Giambi shouldn't even be a reserve. I also think Young and Blalock deserve the start over Jeter and A-Rod. Gotta love that NY media.

XunilTlatoani · Post by **XunilTlatoani** » July 9, 2004, 3:20 pm

Yea, there's still the rule about every team being represented. I believe Pedro turned down the invitation before he was even invited anyway.

I disagree with taking Esteban Loaiza from the Sox. Paul Konerko has probably been the best hitter on the team the first half, but if you were going to take a pitcher I would think you would go with Mark Beurhle over Loaiza.

Carl Crawford should get the start over Ichiro based not only on pure stats but also what him and his team have accomplished this year. But these Japanese players get so much internet voting support from overseas, it would be impossible for a non-household name like Crawford to get the recognition.

Aevian Dreaklear · Post by **Aevian Dreaklear** » July 10, 2004, 12:51 am

This topic has brought up a point that I think should be discussed for my entertainment.

The rule that each MLB team must send at least one representative to the All-Star game.

What are everyone's thoughts on this rule? Should they allow this or not? If they do, do they elect the best player statistically from the team or the player that fills a gap on the reserve list?

Discuss.

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » July 11, 2004, 9:47 am

Griffey, Sosa, and Giambi shouldn't be on there.

I on the one player per team issue, I'm for it. Sure there was a guy or two missed as a result of it, but each team should have at least one all-star. It's shitty for business in those towns if you don't.

And how about that St. Louis infield? Jesus, they're numbers are wicked

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 11, 2004, 12:57 pm

Griffey not on there? I don't really follow baseball but he seems to have a pretty good year to me.

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » July 11, 2004, 4:07 pm

Well, he's had a pretty bad year actually. Batting something like 0.250. Now he's injured again, so he won't be there anyway. This is the perfect opportunity for McKeon to get Carlos Beltran in there as he should be. It will be a travishamockery if he doesn't.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 11, 2004, 4:43 pm

eh only thing I will watch is the homerun shoot-out anyway. And maybe not even that.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 13, 2004, 10:16 pm

Let me add to Roger Clemens achievements:

First pitcher evah to allow the opposing team to hit for the cycle in a single inning in an all star game.

R O C K E D!

Chidoro · Post by **Chidoro** » July 14, 2004, 12:26 am

and?

Randy ain't even going to be a Diamondback in August leaving you with little to root for.

But hey, GO ALL STAR GAME!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 14, 2004, 1:50 am

Chidoro wrote:and?

Randy ain't even going to be a Diamondback in August leaving you with little to root for.

But hey, GO ALL STAR GAME!

Hey, it's just the All Star Game...thanks Roger for giving the AL the home field for the World Series.

Does it matter what team Randy Johnson is on or how many times Roger Clemens comes back from retirement? With home field on the line they should have pulled his ass after the second home run.

You'd be surprised but in AZ we're thankful for Randy giving us a World Series and a lot of the home team supporters want Randy to be traded for another chance at a world series. He picked up 4 straight Cy Youngs, went from under 3k to over 4K K's with the Diamondbacks and was the Co_MVP of our World Series title over the Yankees in one of the best World Series in recent history.

I hope he gets traded. It will help our team and there won't be any hard feelings at all.

IeailandDokktur · Post by **IeailandDokktur** » July 14, 2004, 1:49 pm

Kelshara wrote:Griffey not on there? I don't really follow baseball but he seems to have a pretty good year to me.

I believe he got injured. Not 100% sure though.

IeailandDokktur · Post by **IeailandDokktur** » July 14, 2004, 1:51 pm

Winnow Wrote:

With home field on the line they should have pulled his ass after the second home run.

There might be another tie, if they take there pitchers out to early.

IeailandDokktur · Post by **IeailandDokktur** » July 14, 2004, 1:52 pm

Winnow Wrote:

With home field on the line they should have pulled his ass after the second home run.

There might be another tie, if they take there pitchers out to early.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » July 14, 2004, 6:04 pm

IeailandDokktur wrote:
Kelshara wrote:Griffey not on there? I don't really follow baseball but he seems to have a pretty good year to me.
I believe he got injured. Not 100% sure though.

Torn Hamstring 3 days prior.