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...attacks on US interets both at home and abroad, but do not beleive the war was justified.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/06 ... index.htmg
MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russian intelligence services warned Washington several times that Saddam Hussein's regime planned terrorist attacks against the United States, President Vladimir Putin has said.

The warnings were provided after September 11, 2001 and before the start of the Iraqi war, Putin said Friday, according to the Interfax news agency.

The planned attacks were targeted both inside and outside the United States, said Putin, who made the remarks during a visit to Kazakhstan.

However, Putin said there was no evidence that Saddam's regime was involved in any terrorist attacks.

"After September 11, 2001, and before the start of the military operation in Iraq, the Russian special services ... received information that officials from Saddam's regime were preparing terrorist attacks in the United States and outside it against the U.S. military and other interests," Interfax quoted Putin as saying.

"Despite that information about terrorist attacks being prepared by Saddam's regime, Russia's position on Iraq remains unchanged," Putin said.

Putin made his comments in response to a question from reporters seeking clarification on similar statements leaked by an unnamed intelligence officer in a dispatch by Interfax.

U.S. President George W. Bush personally thanked the head of one of the Russian intelligence services for the information, which he called "very valuable," said CNN Moscow Bureau Chief Jill Dougherty.

Russia opposed the war in Iraq from the beginning, but Putin said the issue of going to war was separate from a potential Iraqi threat. He said there were international norms that weren't observed in carrying out the war.

The United States never mentioned the Russian intelligence in its arguments for going to war.

Putin's comments come two days after members of a U.S. commission looking into the September 11 attacks found there was "no collaborative" relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

The panel also found "no credible evidence" that Iraq was involved in the September 11 terrorist attacks carried out by al Qaeda hijackers.

Bush and his vice president, Dick Cheney, have strongly disputed suggestions that the commission's conclusions contradict statements they made in the run-up to the Iraq war about links between Iraq and al Qaeda.

Cheney said Thursday the evidence is "overwhelming" that al Qaeda had a relationship with Saddam's regime. He said media reports suggesting that the 9/11 commission has reached a contradictory conclusion were "irresponsible." (Full story)

Bush, who has said himself that there is no evidence Iraq was involved in 9/11, sought to explain the distinction Thursday.

The president said that while the administration never "said that the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated" with Iraqi help, "we did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda."

"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda [is] because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda," Bush said. (Full story)

In the lead-up to the Iraq war, Bush made stronger statements alleging cooperation between Iraq and al Qaeda.

In a October 2002 speech he said, "Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."

The 9/11 commission's report said bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to (Saddam) Hussein's secular regime."

It says the contact was pushed by the Sudanese, "to protect their own ties with Iraq," but after bin Laden asked for space in Iraq for training camps, "Iraq apparently never responded."

The report also said, "There have been reports that contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda also occurred after bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan, but they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship."

This is an interesting development.
Your own intell tells you that a country is preparing to strike against you, British intell does the same, and Russian intell, and you do something about it even though one of the three doesn't want you too..

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Putin scares me. Actually the entire former Soviet Union scares me.
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It sounds to me like he wants to stand his ground on his previous decision but need to ask a favor of Bush in the near future...

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This is all lies. It has to be. Saddam would never want to plan attacks on the US. That would add more credance to the US's decision to be proactive and remove Saddam. Bush is the devil and we all know this. Putin is a fucking liar.
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Bush wrote:"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda [is] because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda," Bush said.
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After our intelligence failures, I dont really put much stock into anyones "intelligence" these days.
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potentially interesting.

Obviously the magnitude of the attacks was not that massive or Russia would not have offered such opposition to our military action - in my estimation.

Putin as a former head of the KGB, knows about intelligence...but also as a former head of the KGB...well...was the former head of the KGB.

kind of a political irony as times and relationships change, etc.
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Of course this does make the case that the two largest intelligence agencies not ran by Israel both thought the same thing. No need to overreact on this though anymore than reacting on the link between Saddam and Bin Laden thing, because for all anyone knew before, it was all true.
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Voronwë wrote:potentially interesting.

Obviously the magnitude of the attacks was not that massive or Russia would not have offered such opposition to our military action - in my estimation.
Putin as a former head of the KGB, knows about intelligence...but also as a former head of the KGB...well...was the former head of the KGB.

kind of a political irony as times and relationships change, etc.
I am somewhat sceptical of the suggestion that Russia "could have" publicly supported an American lead war.

Russia needs to continue building its close relationship with the EU. Any confrontational political situation with France or Germany could cause long term damage to Russia's relationship with its closest economic and politcal power(s) to the West. The potential economic benefits for keeping that relationship close are massive.
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But But Iraq was no threat
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Russia is the future of the oil industry....the US is already building massive industries there as we speak...Russia will prob. be one of the USA's biggest allie's in 20years not too far behind Britain. France and Germany have shit for Russia compared to the US....

The only thing is not sure how stable they are yet...They still scare me also atm..Always remember those nuclear drills at school when I was little...Thank GOD my children wont have togo through that with the real threat of the whole world ending..I just hope someday no Dictator has that type of power.
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Erh Sirton I think they don't have to go through that because.. even if there was an attack it wouldn't do shit! hehe.

Always loved to watch the "Ono it is a nuclear attack! Hide under the desks!" movies.
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Oak is a safe alternative to lead shielding. At least THOSE students were paying attention.
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Krimson Klaw wrote:Oak is a safe alternative to lead shielding. At least THOSE students were paying attention.
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Yeah a thin school desk will save your ass when a nuke lands in your back yard :p
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