Wine Values

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » November 14, 2003, 12:24 pm

This is a subject I will weigh in hot and heavy, but first I want to see some of what others think. Lets keep in mind this is just grape juice and steer clear of the Mouton's, opus and the like. I am a wine buyer as well as a Chef, I taste tons of wine, but the ones that get my rocks off are the ones that have a thing known as Perception of Value. So great wines at good prices people, simple as that, prices are of course relative to the type of wine (if you find an outragious $45 burgundy, DEFINATELY put it here).

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » November 17, 2003, 1:49 pm

Anything by Seghesio- the vineyard designate zins are medium range, but the "blue cap" sonoma is the best bang for the buck Zin on the market. The pinot noir is elegant, the omaggio is deep and sexy as hell... great wines made by great people.

Drolgin Steingrinder · November 27, 2003, 2:32 am

If you're into burgundy whites (as everyone should be!) you'll know that Meursault, especially the premiérs, costs 3-4-5-10 times as much as other wines in the region. There's a reason for that- it's one of the best things you can get.

However, the only thing that really seperates the Meursault and the Monthelie districts is a road. Meursault on the left, Monthelie on the right (if you're driving from Lyon and headed to Beaune that is, if you come from Volnay it's...err, nm). The wines are 99% as good but the bottles cost maybe a third.

Monthelie also puts out some damn fine reds that are pretty underpriced, too.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » November 27, 2003, 5:14 am

Charles Shaw cab. 2.99 @ Trader Joe's.

It isn't Opus or Sterling, but it is easily equal or superior to many $20 bottles. It is a bit on the sweet end for a cab--more along the lines of a merlot, but robust all the same. I like it more than the Kendall Jackson cab..

Cases sell like mad here, and they often sell it all within a few days.

Affectionately known as '2-buck Chuck', it never fails to amaze dinner guests who inquire about it.

Ducru · Post by **Ducru** » December 3, 2003, 1:17 pm

Great advice on the Monthelie, Drolgin.

Also if you all aren't familiar with a little producer by the name of Vincent Girardin, check it out. Vincent is the Mayor of the town of Montrachet, and plays a little of the negociant game. The wines are outstanding in quality as well as price. If I remember my FOB's correvtly, his Chassagne Montrachet should retail for around $45 in most markets. I've yet to try anything from VG that wasn't outstanding.

For you other wine buyers out there, Vincent Girardin is imported by Vineyard Brands, if you'd like to try them out.

A couple of other values i've found recently, and are having great success with here in my market (albeit a fairly small market still - Arkansas) are:

Adelsheim Pinot Gris - Willamette Valley Oregon $15
Adelsheim Pinot Noir - Willamette Valley Oregon $25

Angus "The Bull" Cabernet - Australia $18 (small quantity)
Leeuwin Estate Riesling (not the sweet kind) - Margaret River Aussie $20

Elyse D'aventure (Rhone style blend) - Cali $18
(Ray Courson is the wine maker... he's a Gawd amongst men)

Abrazo Garnacha - Spain $7 (I couldn't believe it) Not the greatest wine on earth, but a killer little House Wine for your friends that you don't want to pour "teh good stuff" for

Siji · Post by **Siji** » February 20, 2004, 5:45 pm

Penfolds Bin #2 (Shiraz/Cab) - $9.99
Rosemount Shiraz - $9.99

Anything by Ravenswood (prefer the red zin myself) - $10-30+

Anything by Cline and just about anything by Ridge.

Syenye Squirrellyelf · February 20, 2004, 6:26 pm

i really only like shiraz. for cheap, my favorite is hope estate (~$15). hard to find though, so i usually buy fat bastard (~$12).

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » February 20, 2004, 11:48 pm

Drolgin Steingrinder wrote:If you're into burgundy whites (as everyone should be!) you'll know that Meursault, especially the premiérs, costs 3-4-5-10 times as much as other wines in the region. There's a reason for that- it's one of the best things you can get.

However, the only thing that really seperates the Meursault and the Monthelie districts is a road. Meursault on the left, Monthelie on the right (if you're driving from Lyon and headed to Beaune that is, if you come from Volnay it's...err, nm). The wines are 99% as good but the bottles cost maybe a third.

Monthelie also puts out some damn fine reds that are pretty underpriced, too.

Does anyone else suddenly picture Drolgin in a smoking jacket?

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