The fallen

Cracc · Post by **Cracc** » December 16, 2003, 8:37 am

Took this from eqlive.

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Help us Test "The Fallen"
Please help us with testing the new server rule-set for "The Fallen". If you would like to help test this exciting new concept, please patch to EverQuest using Testeverquest.exe, which you can find in your Everquest directory. Once patched, select "The Fallen" from the server directory and you are in. Here is the proposed rule-set for this server;

- Any character that is slain for any reason what so ever will be reset and placed back into newbie status. Characters will not be restored or resurrected for ANY reason what so ever. Once you're dead, you're dead.

- Each account will only be allowed one character on this server. Any PvP death results in the killing player obtaining a number of points based on the levels of the characters involved. Players can only gain points from characters that are within 5 levels of them.

- You may loot all tradeable items from the corpse of the character you just killed, all other equipment is destroyed with the character.

- The server will make use of the Firiona Vie no drop rules (few things will be No-Drop)

- The server will have the old world (Antonica, Faydwer, Odus) plus the Legacy of Ykesha expansion , and will only allow characters to reach level 50 with no AA.

- The server will have a doubled experience modifier to facilitate faster paced gameplay.

- Players will not be able to turn on /anonymous or /roleplay to hide their current location.

Help us out and let us know what you think. You can use the Submit Comment link on the Dev Corner to send us your feedback and ideas.

Thanks for your help and I hope you enjoy "The Fallen"

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Looks like a new server is incomming, with a really strange ruleset too...

Paruhdox · Post by **Paruhdox** » December 16, 2003, 8:50 am

Can we say Diablo 2 Hardcore Server?

Siji · Post by **Siji** » December 16, 2003, 9:53 am

The first time someone makes it to 40+ and then dies once only to completely lose everything, I'm guessing they'll quit. Unless the xp modifier is such that you can level at an insane pace.. Talk about Nag/Vox never being attempted..

So do you also lose everything that was on the character that can't be played again?

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » December 16, 2003, 10:00 am

Gonna die off quick is my prediction.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 16, 2003, 12:45 pm

will be home to the highest concenetration of gimps the world has ever seen.

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » December 16, 2003, 1:24 pm

Voronwë wrote:will be home to the highest concenetration of gimps the world has ever seen.

After your home town through, right?

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 16, 2003, 1:36 pm

yeah kelethin sux

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » December 16, 2003, 2:19 pm

I'd have to agree that this is probably one of the dumbest fucking things ever.

Pahreyia · Post by **Pahreyia** » December 16, 2003, 2:54 pm

Ransure would OWN that server.

Ransure · Post by **Ransure** » December 16, 2003, 4:05 pm

Heh, but I wouldnt have any gear... this will be a server ruled by the dual and tri boxers that can find an out of the way camp, level up and then PK to thier hearts content....

Then again, if I decide to get my boxing computer setup again....

Cotto · Post by **Cotto** » December 16, 2003, 4:37 pm

I...I was thinking of an Old Skool server a few months ago. With just old world continents...creepy

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » December 16, 2003, 5:25 pm

Wonder if fear works on players there...

Druid\bst or druid\necro would be fun I think.

Is it up already?

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » December 16, 2003, 7:38 pm

this will be kinda like the be-a-mob project, bunch of level 1's slaughtering each other

from time to time it will be a bunch of level 1's mobbing a guy who was somehow able to get to level 10

dumbest idea in EQ yet, I give it couple weeks on test and then renamed to "The Forgotten"

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 16, 2003, 8:30 pm

I'm not sure it's really the dumbest idea. This has been a frequently requested idea. Don't have to go if you don't want!

Yes, it's on Test now.

Runcade · Post by **Runcade** » December 16, 2003, 11:41 pm

some info on it. i was playing on it earlier. cant pvp till lvl 5. when you die you lose all skill points also. exp is 2x normal.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » December 17, 2003, 9:27 am

Hordes of necros and druids, they made up 99% of the characters I saw

Chmee · Post by **Chmee** » December 17, 2003, 12:14 pm

Supposedly it will run for a month, and then will go through a player wipe (presumably if it has enough interest they will run it again).

Probably not my cup of tea, but something different. I like to see them trying new things. If it doesn't prove popular, with the restricted time frame they can just discontinue it and recycle the hardware for something else.

IeailandDokktur · Post by **IeailandDokktur** » December 17, 2003, 12:29 pm

Psyloche wrote:I'd have to agree that this is probably one of the dumbest fucking things ever.

same it will blow balls

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » December 17, 2003, 12:44 pm

I think it would be a neat idea if PvP in EQ was remotely balanced, but its not. In those zones that are included, casters will own pretty much most melee. Especially consdering the gear available, it'll be pretty hard for melee to resist most anything. I'd be interested to see how bards do, but I don't really remember what songs they have up to 50 so who knows, maybe it'll still be necro and druid dominant.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 17, 2003, 1:16 pm

a large zone like Dreadlands that was a PvP zone would be kick ass.

you could have PvP wars in there without having to go to /guildwar. would make for some cool fun on nights when no mobs were up )

Bojangels · Post by **Bojangels** » December 17, 2003, 2:25 pm

Bojangels · Post by **Bojangels** » December 17, 2003, 2:27 pm

At low levels bards aren't really anything special pvp-wise. Basically un killable by anything except a wiz / nec / lucky druid, but not really able to kill anyone of the same lvl by ourselves. Unless you're crazy enough to try to stay and fight them, a bard really isn't going to kill you, just harass. If they use the same rules as like SZ, (training allowed etc) then they could be pretty nasty. We also get our first charm at 27, and it takes no mana so we can make some nasty pets.

Btw by low lvl I'm talking 20-40ish.

Llaffer · Post by **Llaffer** » December 17, 2003, 4:46 pm

I tried it last night. Started a Gnome Shadow Knight.

I got to L3 killing those L1 mecha rats in the city, then went out into Steamfont to try to do more killing.

A red-conned agressive Gnome killed me and I was back at L1 -- time lost, an hour ... /camp desktop

Unless you have a group of friends to play with, you'll never see any high level enchanters and other support classes.

The highest level character that I saw last night was a L13 necro (there was a bunch of them in the same undead dungeon zone in the low teens, so I assumed they are grouping.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 17, 2003, 7:06 pm

You can't attempt any serious raid targets with this rule set, *maybe* if xp was 10x so you could PL your MT back up to 65 in a day, then another 2 days for AA, then ... no, wtf, should just level limit it to level 10.

Llaffer · Post by **Llaffer** » December 18, 2003, 12:54 am

Max level on that server is L50 - no AAs.

Fizzlewhip · Post by **Fizzlewhip** » December 18, 2003, 1:24 pm

I hear there is a mage currently dominating the server, lumona or something similar. I read an account of her attack against a party (who absolutely sucked), and she wasted them quickly. They had a shaman, wizard, pally, and a few more. They didn't even try to stun or blind.

The wizzy did train some skellies on Lumona, but the mage somehow dodged them. It was pretty funny. Apparently this mage knows how to play the class pretty well.

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » December 18, 2003, 3:11 pm

I was owning up with my lvl 8 wizard. I think I ran across that mage, but they ran when they saw me pimping a necro, and enchanter of same lvls.

Then suddenly a puma attacked my enchanter while i was afk, and all was lost! I cried to hard I forgot about my wizard and he died also. What a fucking night. Boy was I pissed.

Higest lvl so far was 16. Was a necro and mage.

Post by **Sylvus** » December 18, 2003, 3:42 pm

How fast was the exp? How long did it take you to get to 16?

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » December 18, 2003, 4:20 pm

I only got to lvl 8. I was able to restart, and get lvl 4 with in 20 minsish.

Exp is good if you find the right spots. Killing rats in hometowns is the fastest way for Gold and lvl 4. If you really wish to know how to get to lvl 4 real fast gimmie a Pm

When I went to Upper Guk at lvl 5, each kill at zone in gave me @ 1.2bubs of exp. One of my roommates went from lvl 6-8 in 15 mins.

The exp should be a LOT faster. Or just start everyone at lvl 8 with full spell book.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 18, 2003, 4:32 pm

Runcade wrote:some info on it. i was playing on it earlier. cant pvp till lvl 5. when you die you lose all skill points also. exp is 2x normal.

I'd get to level 30 or so and then kill newbies as they dinged level 5 with one DD.

It's too easy to die. The amount of time spent leveling to 50 only to die to a mob is not worth it.

A BETTER idea is to start everyone out at level 50..be permanently level 50 (possibly with all spells already in book). You then adventure out and try to equip yourself. The risk of losing all your items is plenty. Screw all the leveling. Everyone at level 50 and make the game obtaining items. A Naggy wipe would then only cause you to spend the hours necessary to re-equip your character as opposed to an insane amount of time releveling.

I heard there is going to be a LEGENDS version of this but everyone will be in GOD mode and cant die.

Psyloche · Post by **Psyloche** » December 18, 2003, 6:39 pm

wow... I like... agree with Winnow on that. Wouldn't be so bad if there was a constant start level, maybe not 50, but somewhere way above the newbie levels of hellish crap.

Ashur · Post by **Ashur** » December 18, 2003, 6:52 pm

Winnow wrote:A BETTER idea is to start everyone out at level 50..be permanently level 50 (possibly with all spells already in book). You then adventure out and try to equip yourself.

That only makes sense if you are given level equivelent equipment (for PvP no less), otherwise A_Naked_Wizard99 kills A_Naked_Warrior01 while he can only beat on the caster (or his 49 pet!) with his fists.

archeiron · Post by **archeiron** » December 18, 2003, 6:57 pm

Ashur [FoH] wrote:That only makes sense if you are given level equivelent equipment (for PvP no less), otherwise A_Naked_Wizard99 kills A_Naked_Warrior01 while he can only beat on the caster (or his 49 pet!) with his fists.

You don't think that having Ice Comet would make A_Naked_Wizard99 overpowered do you???!

Level 25 with some generic gear would more than suffice. There would still be room to xp to higher level and room to grow your gear but without the true n00b fest of the early levels.

Deneve · Post by **Deneve** » December 28, 2003, 2:57 am

i would mind the re-leveling as much as i would mind getting different skills maxed back out, running around to buy your new spells as you level etc, having to repeat all of the little, trivial EQ things that take hours would be what would really drive me away.

Wonko Wenusberg · Post by **Wonko Wenusberg** » December 31, 2003, 2:35 am

Think it sounds fun.
Killing an old world mob and see peoples anger tantrums when they get slained will be fun, and the system will sure work like an idiot cleaner.

People who played everquest and want to start again, but are still lvl 60 with some AA's may try this out.

like me!

EQaddictHelpme · Post by **EQaddictHelpme** » December 31, 2003, 7:46 am

MODEDIT: Wow, another Yantis fanboi. Grats you.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 31, 2003, 12:24 pm

being naked at lvl 50 and balanced is irrelevant.

nobody will be naked at lvl 50. you are naked when you die. on this server when you die you are lvl 1.

Mort · Post by **Mort** » December 31, 2003, 1:54 pm

EQaddictHelpme wrote:Yantis already PLing ppl on Discord to level 50. Wow, he is an amazing fellow. He has an amazing staff.

And just who the fuck are you anon troll? Post under in game name or GTFO!

JACKASS!