PC RPG

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » December 31, 2003, 2:28 am

Im looking to buy a good, newer PC RPG to hold me over for a little bit. Something along the lines of creating a charicter, leveling it up (party optional) and nothing purely turn based...a good storyline would be badass, anything from the lines of baldurs gate, morrowind, to KOTOR would work...anyone know of any good new titles? I havnt been able to find anything, or at least anything im not sceptical about

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » December 31, 2003, 3:22 am

Have you ever played Summoner1 and 2? I didnt like it, but some people do

Falino · Post by **Falino** » December 31, 2003, 3:40 am

Neverwinter Nights

not technically new, but they did just release a new expansion pack, and it's just a kickass game.

Kwonryu DragonFist · December 31, 2003, 3:53 am

Can't recommend anything right now Xzion!

Waitin on WoW here!

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » December 31, 2003, 11:23 am

heh same deal
Xzion Ironlion the troll rogue inc!

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » December 31, 2003, 11:27 am

what game can you compare neverwinter nights to?

Elf · Post by **Elf** » December 31, 2003, 2:27 pm

The temple of elemental evil looks really cool, pretty detailed in character creation if you like that. Also dont get the game "War of the Ring" Its off of Lord of the rings, I think it took me a day to beat it, not worth the $$.

Kargyle · Post by **Kargyle** » December 31, 2003, 2:37 pm

The first Deus Ex is a kind of hybrid FPS/RPG. It has actual character development, and your choices influence the plot of the game. It is older, but you if you haven't played it, it is deffinately worth a run through.

Falino · Post by **Falino** » December 31, 2003, 3:08 pm

NWN is very similar to the Baulder's Gate series. Developed by the same company. It also runs off the AD&D rules. But I've always like it more than the Baulder's Gate games.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » December 31, 2003, 4:00 pm

Kargyle wrote:The first Deus Ex is a kind of hybrid FPS/RPG. It has actual character development, and your choices influence the plot of the game. It is older, but you if you haven't played it, it is deffinately worth a run through.

Just dont download it from a p2p or something, I tried but the messages are really screwed up, almost to the unplayable point

miir · Post by **miir** » December 31, 2003, 4:23 pm

NWN rocks.
The latest expansion (Hordes of the Underdark) was one of the most satifying RPGs I've ever played. There's so much diversity in it that you really need to play through the campaign at least 3-4 times. There's class specific items/quests and encounters can play completely different depending on the class you are playing and the henchmen you choose. Hardcore rules (difficulty) is awesome.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » December 31, 2003, 8:53 pm

so after you beat the original, its an actual expansion where you run off your old save files, and just continue charicter developement and storyline, or are they totally new games with new chars, etc

how is it on length/challenge

miir · Post by **miir** » December 31, 2003, 9:19 pm

You can start any campaign with any saved character.

The NWN original campaign (OC) is intended for 'newbie' characters and will level you up to 17-20 by the end of it. Level 20 is the max.

The second expansion is also designed for newbie characters to start. Being quite a bit shorter than the OC you will only reach about level 15-17 by the end of it.. and mostly due to some very high XP reward quests in the 2nd and 3rd modules.

The newest campaign is designed to start for characters level 15+.
You can start off as low as level 12 but it wil be near-impossible.
If you fast-track through the campaign (ie: skip a LOT of dialoge and cutscenes, bypass non-crucial sidequests/plotlines) you could likely finish it up in about 20-25 hours. Clearing out every nook and cranny, finishing every possible side-quest and following every sub-plot could probably draw out the campain to 50+ hours.
As for the difficulty, you can make the game as difficult or as easy as you want. I started one HoTU campaign with a level 14 (10 Bard/4 Red Dragon) using Hardcore rules and hired no henchmen.... it was fucking ROUGH. I was forced to grab a couple of henchmen for some of the more difficult encounters (like Vixthra).

I would recommend playing through the OC at least once before tackling HoTU. There are a number of relationships, characters and plot threads that are revisited in HoTU. Some of the dialoges you'll have with certain characters will seem nonsensical if you are not familiar with the OC.

There is a deluge of user-created mods (modules, not modifications) and even some persistant worlds. The replayability of NWN is virtually limitless.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » December 31, 2003, 9:37 pm

I started HotU at 13. I played on easy, but there were still some major challenges. The hardest encounter for me was Vex'Thras(sp?) the Vampire demi-god. My god that thing is evil. I ended up giving up on it, I don't think I was high enough at the time of that encounter. I barely killed him, and well he doesnt stay dead...

miir · Post by **miir** » January 1, 2004, 4:03 am

Hehe, the Vix'Thra encounter is brutal the first time through.... The phylactery in the back room is the secret to making the encounter much more manageable.... the first time I won, I took 15 minutes and actually picked up all the coin loot on the floor of his lair.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » January 2, 2004, 3:17 am

i installed the original on my 64grafics card laptop with some badass stats, and it still runs somewhat laggy, but only in big zones, ran pretty damn badly on my PC too...any setting that should be turned down thats the main factor of causing that? i dont think it was the shadows even

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » January 3, 2004, 7:41 pm

heh, anyone know how the hell you get your henchman to lvl up?

Vaemas · Post by **Vaemas** » January 3, 2004, 9:40 pm

Kev, you gave up?!? WTF!

miir · Post by **miir** » January 3, 2004, 9:55 pm

Xzion wrote:heh, anyone know how the hell you get your henchman to lvl up?

They should automatically level up... unless you just hire them and they are much lower level.... you can talk to them and tell them to level up.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » January 3, 2004, 11:20 pm

i got that gnome sorcerer at early lvl 4, droped him for 2-3 fights where i had to "tactically zone in and out to weaken the stupid motherfucking mob, without the godamn midget getin his ass handed",i recently got lvl 5 and hes still 4... wonder if that had anything to do with it

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » January 4, 2004, 3:35 am

Vae, I gave up because I didnt even see that there was anything in the back of his cave. I thought I had to kill all 4 spawns, and I knew that I could not do that, I thought I could come back in a few levels and try, but by the time I got a few levels...I was in the 3rd chapter, bah!
Dunno how I missed the phylactary in the back. It was about 3am when I got to Vix'Thras though

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Vaemas · Post by **Vaemas** » January 4, 2004, 1:23 pm

Well, missing it in the back could be that it's damned tough to get back there unless you have a high search skill.

NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 22, 2004, 12:03 am

Temple of Elemental Evil is proving to be rather entertaining.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » January 22, 2004, 1:10 am

THe start of ToEE is so boring I can't get past it.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 22, 2004, 10:37 am

Dregor Thule wrote:THe start of ToEE is so boring I can't get past it.

Well the start of any D&D adv is boring as fuck, the game is REALLY well done if you are/were once a D&D freak

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 22, 2004, 12:02 pm

Haven't ever played NWN, but out of curiosity does the Temple of Elemental Evil begin in the Village of Hommlet? I may have to get the game just for the nostalgia factor heheh.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 22, 2004, 12:04 pm

Xatrei wrote:Haven't ever played NWN, but out of curiosity does the Temple of Elemental Evil begin in the Village of Hommlet? I may have to get the game just for the nostalgia factor heheh.

Why yes, yes it does, it is a lot of fun

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 22, 2004, 12:11 pm

25 years ago...

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » January 22, 2004, 2:04 pm

what exactly makes advanced dungeons and dragons.... advanced?

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » January 22, 2004, 2:37 pm

You get to shoot magic missles

Sabek · Post by **Sabek** » January 22, 2004, 2:49 pm

D&D had a dumbed down ruleset. It was supposed to be a like entry-level D&D.

AD&D had the full ruleset.

Sparck · Post by **Sparck** » February 7, 2004, 3:23 pm

I've been hooked on Wizardry 8 for the past month now. The game is a few years old but it's truly incredible. Excellent voice acting, awesome weapons to be found, great spells and some very nice graphics. The battles can get tedious and repetitive at times but overall, I think it's a great sleeper RPG.

Sparck