Soul Calibur 2 wednesday..

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 25, 2003, 10:22 am

...who's hyped?

Kluden · Post by **Kluden** » August 25, 2003, 11:20 am

Bastards make me want to buy it for all systems with the added characters...grrrr....think i'll start with GC version.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » August 25, 2003, 11:57 am

looks very badass, I guess you can tell what my fav SC char is...

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » August 25, 2003, 12:15 pm

i have yet to play SC, if you guys think theres games out there that beat it, tell me, on ps2 i mean, i dont have much money

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » August 25, 2003, 12:26 pm

I'm vary hyped.

I bought Xbox magazine this weekend cause it has a playable demo on it and the game kicks MUCH ass!

My fav character is Link out of all 3 but spam is a very respectable 2nd place in my book =P

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 25, 2003, 1:48 pm

If I had an xbox, I'd grab it to play as Spawn, period.
Link, however, works just fine.

Looking forward to seeing Sopitha's sister & Ivy back in the game aswell.

Does anyone know if Inferno is making a return, or if he's being replaced by that ugly sonofabitch that Todd McFarlane designed specifically for it?

Post by **Sylvus** » August 25, 2003, 2:39 pm

Not really familiar with the franchise, I'm assuming it is like a Tekken/Mortal Kombat type fighting game? If anyone can give anymore details that'd be great, what I've seen of the site hasn't been too helpful so far.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 25, 2003, 3:27 pm

Quick rundown on history of the Soul Calibur franchise.
I can't remember the name of the first game - this is techniaclly the third - thinking it was Soul Edge or somthing similiar. The second made an AMAZING debut on the Dreamcast, the third is going on all three systems.

It is a fighting game, but to compare it to MK is the equvilent of comparing WWE to, say, a Russian play. And it just fucks Tekken up.

Combat is through weapons, weapons, and most of all, weapons. However, unless they change it, there is zero gore in it; just OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of really cool oldschool (think Street Fighter) style particle effects. OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of emphasis is placed on counter moves, and just flat out speed. Ring position DOES matter as you can get your sorry ass tossed out in a few quick blows if you're not paying attention - instant loss for you should you do. (Conversley, lots of good instan wins with that, heh).

Now the main thing that makes SC different than other fighting games - aside from just graphical beauty - is the Mission Mode. There's an actual story behind the Soul Calibur series, and it's pretty much this:

Midevil eurpoe / orient.
Big, magical, demonic sword capable of sucking souls and granting the user untold power while corrupting him with the hatred of Hell.
Fairly large number of people that want it.
One guy that has it.
And the sword itself, which just wants to eat.

What does this have to do with the mission mode, you may ask?
Each mission is more than just a simple "Go kill this guy." Each mission has it's own specific rules of engagement under which you MUST win, or different arena effects. For example, in SC2 there was a fight against a Joan of Arc type heroine that wields a wicked sword/shield combo in which you can only defeat her by performing a RingOut victory. Or there's a temple where you're put against 20, 30 different copies of the same guy on a ledge (litteraly a ledge, restricted to 2d movement) and if you get hit before you kill them all, you lose. Or the gladiatorial "pit" which was set on a platform in the middle of the Arena where you would face as many opponents as you had life left.

As you compelted missions and got more points, you would unlock new locales, new missions, new characters, new character outfits, ect. No mission is the same. Each AREA may have a similiar mission on each level of difficulty as you advance, but it's always a little bit different.

Eventually, after defeating all the missions or getting so many points, you'd finially face off against Nightmare (the sword's holder) and once you defeated him, Inferno: the living embodiment of the sword itself.

That sum it up for ya?

Janx · Post by **Janx** » August 25, 2003, 4:18 pm

VF4 Evolution. $20 cant be beat.

Both VF4 evolution and SC2 are kickass and probably both worth adding to your collection.

Kwonryu DragonFist · Post by **Kwonryu DragonFist** » August 25, 2003, 4:41 pm

What's good is that Kilik is using a staff-form from Shaolin!

The Staff form shown in one of the intro movies is almost identical!

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » August 25, 2003, 4:43 pm

i never liked the virtua fighter or tekken series

Pilsburry · Post by **Pilsburry** » August 25, 2003, 8:27 pm

This sounds liek a game I'd be better off renting then buying.

Usually fighting games only last me a few days...

Breagen · Post by **Breagen** » August 25, 2003, 10:13 pm

I hope Cervante's in is the new one; pirates 4 evar!

I'll be buying it for Xbox as its the only system of the three I own, although only difference is the extra character so it doesn't really matter much...

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » August 26, 2003, 11:31 am

yeah, nightmares the dude im my avatar, that guy is the most badass fighting game char ever made

that or i can just play him badass

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 26, 2003, 12:23 pm

Kilik, Cervantes, Ivy.
Killer 3.

Post by **Xouqoa** » August 26, 2003, 7:41 pm

It was tough to decide between getting it for Xbox or GameCube, but I went with Xbox since I'm told the graphics are a bit cleaner. Plus it'll be really nice if I ever get a HDTV.

Gonna go pick it up tomorrow afternoon, got it reserved at GameStop.

Janx · Post by **Janx** » August 26, 2003, 10:04 pm

"Cervantes" = who you play when you lack skillz

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 27, 2003, 3:29 pm

Playing it now.
Cervantes IS back, btw.

Great game, beautiful graphics. I miss sopitha but her twin sister has all of her moves, heh. Ivy is as jiggly as ever and Ceverantes is still a beast.

edit: I was wrong! Sopitha IS back.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 28, 2003, 12:11 pm

Ok, played it on normal difficulty for about 8hrs yesterday, here's the shit and skinny.

Character wise, the following make apperances (forgive me if I leave one or two off):

Sopitha
Ivy
Kilik
Maxi
Astaroth
Nightmare
Cervantes
Assassin
Hwang Sung (spelling - scimitar dude; also, it's either this guy or a similar guy that fights Just Like Him0
Sun Mina (spelling - she had the poleaxe type weapon)
Necrid (A McFarlane production. Hard as hell to perdict, his weapon is pure energy that appears as he needs it)
Charade (an Inferno type beast)
Xangshua (spelling)
Mitsurugi (The samuri)
Inferno (BEASTLY)
Cassandra (Sopitha's sister - almost the same moves, but she's not as sassy)
Tiki (The ninja chick)
Link / Spawn / The old guy from Tekken (GC, XBox, PS2, respectively)
Berzerker (Takes the place of the minotaur from SC1, has the same weapon and most of the same moves)
Raphael
Lizardman
Voldo

I belive that is all of them. EdgeMaster is gone, but, Charade takes his place. I'll double check when I get back home.

Mission mode is back, no doubt. Also, same as before: beat through it once, and all missions are unlocked again but harder. Pretty much the same types of rules as the first one depending on mission: You're poisoned, you can heal, your oponent can heal, can only win with a ring out, can only cause damage by sending your opponent into a wall/floor, can only cause damage to your opponent by doing a guard break, there's ugly wind, quicksand, touching the ground will blow you up, "pass the bomb" (which is new: you have to hit your opponent to give him the bomb, then when the time runs out... boom), ect.

Again, as you win, you gain gold that you use to buy different outfits, possibly characters; one addition to this that you can buy weapons that give you different attributes. Example would be the spiny sword Cassandra can buy; it decreases attack range but can break through a blocking opponent sometimes. Or others that grant you bonuses durring a soul charge, ect. Pretty straightfoward, nothing that seems to be exceedingly unbalancing so far.

The locales are mostly new but exceptionally well done.
Music is pretty much the same.
Hard to imagine, but the game got a graphical improvement. Some of the effects are still the same but everything just LOOKS better.
Tons of differnt modes.. Aracade, Arcade Extra (where you can use weapons bought in the Mission Mode), Survival, Time Attack, Versus, Team battles, ect. Everything you'd expect.

Biggest beefs:
Still no "fatality" type moves, which would have been really, really cool.
Move system is still a pain in the ass.. one command will do one thing one second, then another the next.. ect.
The AI does seem to cheat a little, but nothing too overt.
Some of the character's moves are similar to at least one, if not 3, other people.
The mission map is more linear than it was in the first; no "hidden" dungeons or zones.
The dungeon mode is a pain in the ass. All it consists of is "Go into dungeon who's stages have random rulesets, figure them out, kill every room, beat the boss, find a "treasure" room in the process, and you don't get to save until you complete the dungeon or leave it, if you leave, you do it all over again" bullshit. Thankfully, there are only 4? Dungeons in misison mode.

All in all, it's just OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS more of SC1 with fancier packaging and a few minor improvements. Then again, SC1 still IS one of the best fighters around, so you take what you can get...

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » August 28, 2003, 12:20 pm

looks like the most fagtastic game i've ever seen commercials for.

i can only say i'm glad i'm too old to think garbage like this is cool.

some stupid anime robin hood jumping up on guys and humping them before he beats on them.

yes *very* badass. all of you people need counseling.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » August 28, 2003, 12:23 pm

If you like fighting games you'll like SC2.

If you don't you're probably some woodelf ranger fag or summat!

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » August 28, 2003, 1:09 pm

i loved playing MK2.

this game is probably cool, i'm just goofing off.

all i'm going by is the stupid robin hood character featured in the TV spot.

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » August 28, 2003, 1:12 pm

You could have just owned up to being a woodelf ranger fag

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » August 28, 2003, 1:56 pm

i'm playing hard to get

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » August 28, 2003, 2:35 pm

To put this thread back on track....

Just got my copy about 20 minutes ago. Still havta wait 3 hours before I get to go home though =(

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 28, 2003, 2:50 pm

Voro:
I have a feeling the guy you saw was Link, from the Legend of Zelda series.
Yes, he does look like a homo. I can't argue that.

It was a promotional stunt.. XBox owners got Spawn as an additional character, PS2 owners got some guy from Tekken, and Cube owners get Link from Zelda.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » August 28, 2003, 3:18 pm

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » August 28, 2003, 5:10 pm

so basically Cube owners are fags according to this software company's market research then?

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » August 28, 2003, 11:58 pm

spawn>any of those fags
tekken sucks ass

Post by **Xouqoa** » August 29, 2003, 1:39 am

i have xbox and cube so it cancells each other out!!!11

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » August 29, 2003, 4:17 pm

sorry, no, xbox is barely cool, it does not have enough strength to counter the gayness that is link.

I bought the game at 9 last night for my son, he played it for a few and I was impressed but had to tuck my wife in. Looking forward to playing it today after work. I was impressed with how the characters say different things according to the move performed. Nice touch, I cant remember if sc1 did that or not, but I like it. The freakin tekken dude is a beast, my son beat the game with him in like 5 minutes straight out of the box with that guy. I kinda got a tad upset cause I dont like him putting games on easy, but I checked and it was on the default difficulty. Either it was extremely easy, or that guy is a freakin beast, I think hes a beast hehe.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 29, 2003, 5:30 pm

Tbh it's not a problem going through the arcade mode in 5 minutes with any of the characters so far at normal difficulty.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » August 29, 2003, 5:45 pm

Ok then I don't like that, guess we'll just pump up the difficulty. But he still looks sweet duking it out with no weps and blocking with his bracers. I can only wonder at the types of alternate weps that guy will get, brass knucks, spiked knucks, claws...so many possibilities.

Sartori · Post by **Sartori** » August 30, 2003, 2:14 am

Heihachi is a badass, but far from my favorite Tekken character...and Xzion bite me.

Tekken has always been one of my favorite fighting games! So, my roommate put some doubt into my mind and I went and rented this. Wow I'm buying this motherfucker.

I hear there is another very familiar special character, and I want to unlock him

vn_Tanc · Post by **vn_Tanc** » August 30, 2003, 7:21 am

Heihachi Mishima. . .WINS!
I used to hate hearing that >< He _is_ a fookin monster

Anyway random opinions:
Tekken was easily the best 3D fighting game series til Soul Calibur DC arrived and edged it out.
Link might look a bit gay but if you think he _is_ gay then you haven't played Ocarina of Time and therefore are gay yourself! Link rules. And FFS he spends all his life rescuing princesses not princes

Coatlicue [KoE] · Post by **Coatlicue [KoE]** » August 30, 2003, 9:05 am

I'm VERY excited about this game coming out!! woot! I love combat/fighting games and only pull out the Dreamcast to play this game... Can't wait to have it on PS2 format...

Sopitha looks just like Coatlicue

(what she used to look like with old skool graphics)... her sister's name is Cassandra, which is my RL name. weird!!!

murr · Post by **murr** » August 30, 2003, 11:48 am

cube owns you all, assholes

p.s. weapon master mode 2nd time around on that subchapter dungeon full of beserkers = MAD, MAD gay

Kwonryu DragonFist · September 6, 2003, 1:12 pm

Killik and HEIHACHI = The BEST!

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » September 28, 2003, 10:37 am

Plowed this in about 2 weeks of off and on playing.
I'm really annoyed that Inferno isn't unlockable, that you can't change the opening like you could in SC1, and that Assassin, Berzerker and Lizardman are only accessable in the vs modes.

Estrosiath · Post by **Estrosiath** » September 28, 2003, 3:45 pm

I think the worst characters to encounter if the game is pissed at you are either Ivy, Cervantes, Cassandra or Voldo. I think either can just leave you with the "How the fuck did that happen?" feeling after they kill you without even breaking a sweat.

For the record, I think Voldo with his third costume owns something mighty. Hard to master though. And of course, I will just *need* to say Raphael is another gay French guy! I hate the French, but not for the same reasons Americans do

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » September 28, 2003, 3:48 pm

I'll agree with that. Not so much cervantes, as he's easy to guess.. but if the game is miffed at you, you get Voldo.

And Voldo will fuck you up.

Raphael is a good fighter tho. Yes, gay and french, but can actually fight.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » September 29, 2003, 11:40 am

I am stuck on the second layer of Weapons Master. There is one fight in the church stage that has I think 4 fights in a row, with a limited timer. They block a LOT. The description of the encounter in the game hints that there is some secret to defeating these opponents.
What is the secret?

murr · Post by **murr** » September 29, 2003, 2:26 pm

Ringouts helped me. I also figured out a cheap insta kill move with Talim ^^

Burke · Post by **Burke** » September 29, 2003, 2:58 pm

Which is???

VeeshanVault

Soul Calibur 2 wednesday..

Soul Calibur 2 wednesday..

The homo in question??

fucking soul caliber TOOOOOOO