The passing of a Canadian Hero

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » August 9, 2005, 1:35 pm

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

Smokey Smith was an infantry grunt of the 72nd Seaforth Highlanders in WW II who was in the Sicilian/Italian campaign and one night, this ordinary joker from BC did something extraordinary that changed his life. After, some said his actions may have saved the entire operation which paved the way for the full invasion of Italy, but in any event he was given the highest decoration a soldier in the Commonwealth can receive, the Victoria Cross.

I met Smokey once, when I was a teenager at an Army Cadet excursion to Vancouver where we stopped in the armoury of his old regiment. He was chatting with all the kids and telling his stories. He knew how to talk to young people and had us all laughing with him about things like his not having to buy any beer in the UK after his VC was awarded. He didn't dwell on the combat stories but he never shirked from relating what happened as he remembered it either. I saw him in documentaries and new stories in later years and he was still the same: he didn't make a big deal of himself, he just seemed to enjoy talking and joking with people.

An ordinary man in an extraordinary circumstance who just did what he thought he had to. May he rest in peace.

miir · Post by **miir** » August 9, 2005, 1:36 pm

Cheers Smoky!

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 9, 2005, 1:45 pm

Here is were a foreigner will come into the picture and make a comment about Canada being a better place now that he is gone or that the news in America may be worth watching.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 9, 2005, 2:01 pm

lollz

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 9, 2005, 2:32 pm

What he did was brave. Not many people would stand there and take on 2 tanks like he did.

RIP.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 9, 2005, 2:37 pm

Somehow this is the United States' fault but it's nice to see that he was able to relate his experiences over the years in a positive way.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » August 9, 2005, 8:39 pm

Not enough people are named "Smokey" nowadays.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » August 10, 2005, 2:07 am

Cool! Thanks for the story Wulfie

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 10, 2005, 6:03 pm

It is a shame so many courageous Canadians had to perish in WW2, I wish we (the US) had preemptorily joined against Germany and removed Adolf from power before he got the death camps and the Blitz going.

Corrected due to typo from hell

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 10, 2005, 8:42 pm

preemptorarily?

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » August 10, 2005, 9:25 pm

His knowledge of spelling is only exceeded by his grasp of world history.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 11, 2005, 2:33 am

Kylere wrote: preemptorily

Do you mean Preemptively?

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 11, 2005, 9:07 am

You know, without a huge unabriged dictionary I am not sure if I meant because m-w.com and dictionary.com are both silent on the specifics, and I can find both ways in heavy usage online. I will be at the library on friday and will open the 100000lb dictionary they have and look.

Gotta love it when they best you all can do is attack grammar, it means I am winning.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 11, 2005, 9:44 am

so in other words, you don't know.
right.
gotcha.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 11, 2005, 3:25 pm

"it means i am winning"

Anyone who says this automatically loses sir

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 11, 2005, 6:45 pm

Sylvos wrote:so in other words, you don't know.
right.
gotcha.

No in other words, I am not sure, but you do not know either. At least I am willing to admit it.

Sylvos · Post by **Sylvos** » August 11, 2005, 6:49 pm

Kylere wrote:
Sylvos wrote:so in other words, you don't know.
right.
gotcha.
No in other words, I am not sure, but you do not know either. At least I am willing to admit it.

I'll use that defense next time I make up a word and get called on it.

A Kylereism.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 11, 2005, 9:14 pm

Kylere wrote:You know, without a huge unabriged dictionary I am not sure if I meant because m-w.com and dictionary.com are both silent on the specifics, and I can find both ways in heavy usage online.

you can find the word "preemptorarily" in heavy usage online?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » August 11, 2005, 9:48 pm

Spooky.. the only google on that word is a Tolkien forum in a post started by Voro!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 11, 2005, 10:28 pm

Madness!

VariaVespasa · Post by **VariaVespasa** » August 11, 2005, 11:44 pm

Sylvos wrote:
Kylere wrote: preemptorily
Do you mean Preemptively?

Or possibly "peremptorially", although pre-emptively seems to fit the context better.

Varia

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 12, 2005, 12:53 am

kyoukan wrote:
Kylere wrote:You know, without a huge unabriged dictionary I am not sure if I meant because m-w.com and dictionary.com are both silent on the specifics, and I can find both ways in heavy usage online.
you can find the word "preemptorarily" in heavy usage online?

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl ... tnG=Search

Kguku · Post by **Kguku** » August 12, 2005, 1:01 pm

Yes, 765 hits is such heavy usage

. My guess would be that those were typos, as peremptorily, which just happens to be a REAL WORD, comes up with 124,000 hits on google.

miir · Post by **miir** » August 12, 2005, 1:18 pm

If preemptorily is a real word, then so is sticktoitiveness.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » August 12, 2005, 1:43 pm

Dudley Dooright died?

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » August 12, 2005, 2:09 pm

miir wrote:If preemptorily is a real word, then so is sticktoitiveness.

That has a nice ring to it miir, I think you should coin it !

miir · Post by **miir** » August 12, 2005, 2:20 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:
miir wrote:If preemptorily is a real word, then so is sticktoitiveness.
That has a nice ring to it miir, I think you should coin it !

I think Madden coined it.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 12, 2005, 7:08 pm

premptory is a word, just as peremptory is, looked them both up at the library, next?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 12, 2005, 7:13 pm

Maybe so, preemptorarily still isn't though.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 13, 2005, 11:28 am

Nick wrote:Maybe so, preemptorarily still isn't though.

That was a typo. as I had pointed out 99 posts ago, and you are still a dumbass, thank you, drive through.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 13, 2005, 2:06 pm

THAT WAS A FRIGHTENINGLY ORIGINAL ZING SIR!

"Thank you, Drive through", wow, that's so fresh.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » August 13, 2005, 3:28 pm

welp, preemptorarily isnt a word and preemptorily isn't a word. got anything else?

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » August 13, 2005, 8:18 pm

Google fight!

http://www.se-fight.com/index.php?lang= ... d2=nucular

Nucular wins 64,800 to 759, and that isn't a real word.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 14, 2005, 11:30 am

Actually preemptorily is a word.

But I am glad the best you and "nick" can do is attack my spelling in between bouts of being racist trash!

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » August 14, 2005, 12:02 pm

Kylere wrote:Actually preemptorily is a word.

But I am glad the best you and "nick" can do is attack my spelling in between bouts of bneing racist trash!

In what language, and umm.. racist? Oh, "you" is Kyoukan?

How about referencing your pointers a little more clearly.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » August 14, 2005, 1:16 pm

Webster.com says neither premptory nor preemptorily are real words. However it does list peremptorily as a real word.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 14, 2005, 1:59 pm

Sionistic wrote:Webster.com says neither premptory nor preemptorily are real words. However it does list peremptorily as a real word.

Go to a library, bookstore etc open the unabriged dictionary, and look. English is more than the 75k words the Wintendo generation has bothered to learn.

Jice Virago · Post by **Jice Virago** » August 14, 2005, 2:50 pm

ITs just as real as Wintendo!

noel · Post by **noel** » August 14, 2005, 3:11 pm

Kylere wrote:
Sionistic wrote:Webster.com says neither premptory nor preemptorily are real words. However it does list peremptorily as a real word.
Go to a library, bookstore etc open the unabriged dictionary, and look. English is more than the 75k words the Wintendo generation has bothered to learn.

Y'know, when you're wrong about something, and 15 other people are calling you on it, sometimes it's best to just say, 'My mistake.' instead of perpetuating your stupidity.

Just think if I'd preemptively made this post, I could have saved you from looking stupid THIS time.

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » August 14, 2005, 3:27 pm

edit: ok wow, thank god its a free trial for that

Ok i actually signed up for an unabridged dictonary.

Premptory still isnt a word. Neither is preemptorily.

However, Preemptory is a word.

Main Entry: pre·emp·to·ry Pronunciation Guide
Pronunciation: -m(p)t()r, -ri
Function: adjective
Etymology: Medieval Latin praeemptus + English -ory
: of or relating to preemption

Citation format for this entry:

"preemptory." Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged. Merriam-Webster, 2002. http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com (14 Aug. 2005).

Looked up Preemption

Main Entry: pre·emp·tion Pronunciation Guide
Pronunciation: -em(p)shn
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): -s
Etymology: Medieval Latin praeemptus (past participle of praeemere to buy beforehand, from Latin prae- pre- + emere to take, buy) + English -ion -- more at REDEEM
1 : the act or right of purchasing before others: as a : the privilege or prerogative formerly enjoyed by the king of buying provisions at an appraised valuation for his household in preference to others b : the prior right belonging among some primitive peoples to persons standing in various family, tribal, or neighborhood relations to purchase property sold or proposed to be sold to a stranger at the price offered by the stranger c : the right of a belligerent to seize and purchase at an appraised price other contraband of war than absolute contraband belonging to a neutral and en route to an enemy in its own territory or on the high seas or in unappropriated territory d : a preemption right or a piece of land occupied under one
2 : a prior seizure or appropriation : a taking possession before others <raises the question of federal preemption of the security field -- Report: American Civil Liberties Union> <the agency's preemption of all ... power and responsibility -- A.G.Harper>

Citation format for this entry:

"preemption." Webster's Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged. Merriam-Webster, 2002. http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com (14 Aug. 2005).

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » August 14, 2005, 3:34 pm

This thread is starting to resemble a Jesse Jackson speach.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » August 14, 2005, 6:46 pm

LOL I am glad so many ass bandits gathered in this attack, my root word was preemptory, where is the issue?

Fucking children

Now I associate canadian heroes as spelling nazi's.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 14, 2005, 7:34 pm

Kylere wrote:Now I associate canadian heroes as spelling nazi's.

And you wonder why we all think you're stupid.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » August 14, 2005, 8:07 pm

Yes "nick".

How silly of me to use my name.

You would think I was flat out insane for doing that eh!

Please point any racist comment I made.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » August 14, 2005, 9:43 pm

Kylere wrote:
Sylvos wrote:
Kylere wrote: preemptorily
Do you mean Preemptively?
Yes.

Ohh, and there would have been the end of it.

Instead you persist that 700 some hits on google is "heavy usage", and preemptory is not a root for preemptorily jackass. Yet, somehow, despite being unable to admit a small failing in language you deny, deny, deny, and have the gall to call us children? Give it up.