Todays Email

sarlen · Post by **sarlen** » July 23, 2004, 8:48 pm

I got this email today from my sister who I have always considered a normal, fair-minded person. So to give her the benefit of the doubt I ask you, the VV'ers, is this nothing more then a message of hate and intolerance for Muslims? or am I being to anal? From the header info on this email I would say it has been forwarded at least a few hundred times.

How ironic is this??!! They don't even believe in Christ and they're getting their own Christmas stamp, but don't dream of posting the ten commandments on federal pro! perty?

USPS New Stamp

This one is impossible to believe. Scroll down for the text.
If there is only one thing you forward today.....let it be this!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World
Trade Center in 1993!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine
barracks in Lebanon!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military
barracks in Saudi Arabia!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American
Embassies in Africa!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001!

REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were
lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks!

Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the
EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class holiday postage stamp.

REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp
when purchasing your stamps at the post office.
To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those
AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors.

REMEMBER to pass this along to every patriotic AMERICAN you know.

Tegellan · Post by **Tegellan** » July 23, 2004, 8:52 pm

Looks just like racistic and intolerant propaganda to me at least, sounds very narrow minded and stupid. I hope your sister doesn't share that view.

sarlen · Post by **sarlen** » July 23, 2004, 9:09 pm

I just find it very hard to believe that someone can read that and not see it as hate propaganda. Perhaps its the sentimental view of patriotisim that makes some blind to the fact that this is pure garbage. It does not make you a better American to hate an entire religion because of some extreamests.

Kylere · Post by **Kylere** » July 23, 2004, 9:19 pm

Yeah this is tripe and anyone backing it as a message is fucking scum.

I could easily put together a list of acts commited by Christians that would smoke it in terms of evil. Hell Adolph fucking Hitler was Christian.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 23, 2004, 9:42 pm

sarlen wrote:I got this email today from my sister who I have always considered a normal, fair-minded person. So to give her the benefit of the doubt I ask you, the VV'ers, is this nothing more then a message of hate and intolerance for Muslims? or am I being to anal? From the header info on this email I would say it has been forwarded at least a few hundred times.

How ironic is this??!! They don't even believe in Christ and they're getting their own Christmas stamp, but don't dream of posting the ten commandments on federal pro! perty?

USPS New Stamp

This one is impossible to believe. Scroll down for the text.
If there is only one thing you forward today.....let it be this!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World
Trade Center in 1993!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine
barracks in Lebanon!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military
barracks in Saudi Arabia!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American
Embassies in Africa!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001!

REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were
lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks!

Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the
EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class holiday postage stamp.

REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp
when purchasing your stamps at the post office.
To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those
AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors.

REMEMBER to pass this along to every patriotic AMERICAN you know.

Im sure knowing my political reputation on VV everyone knows exactlly how i feel about the author of that message.

Im deeply disgusted by those words, even being that i have a very anti-established religion mindset

one thing for sure, the scum which is the author of those disgusting words is voting for George W on nov 2.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 23, 2004, 9:51 pm

LOL, well I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, but....I agree. Fuck the Muslims. They can have a fucking Muslim stamp in Iraq or something. I find it very inappropriate, but very typical of the power structure to push something the masses don't want down our throats trying to force us into acceptance.(ie: Gay Marriage)

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » July 23, 2004, 9:58 pm

yes because all muslims are america hating terrorists.

you racist fucking scumbag.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » July 23, 2004, 10:00 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL, well I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, but....I agree. Fuck the Muslims. They can have a fucking Muslim stamp in Iraq or something. I find it very inappropriate, but very typical of the power structure to push something the masses don't want down our throats trying to force us into acceptance.(ie: Gay Marriage)

I hope you get pranked by someone in a parking garage.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » July 23, 2004, 10:42 pm

God damn, there are some ignorant fucking people.

Let me suggest something to you. If you're pissed because "the other team" is getting a motherfucking stamp, I suggest taking a look around at the world in which you live and... oh, i don't know... shutting the fuck up.

People are just the worst.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 23, 2004, 10:46 pm

I seriously hope either Midnyte gets a Muslim boss as his pizza place heh. You are such a piece of trash I am amazed nobody have bashed your head in with a bat yet. Unless of course you only spread your trash here anonymously.

That said...

REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were
lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks!

Wonder how many AMERICANS that died in those attacks were Muslims. I was not aware that being American meant you could not be a Muslim.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » July 23, 2004, 11:49 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL, well I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, but....I agree. Fuck the Muslims. They can have a fucking Muslim stamp in Iraq or something. I find it very inappropriate, but very typical of the power structure to push something the masses don't want down our throats trying to force us into acceptance.(ie: Gay Marriage)
I hope you get pranked by someone in a parking garage.

hehe, no patience for the stiffly stifferson.

Cracc · Post by **Cracc** » July 24, 2004, 12:27 am

Just thought id add in the muslims do belive in jesus.. he was a messenger of god according to them.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » July 24, 2004, 12:47 am

Krimson Klaw wrote:
Dregor Thule wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL, well I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, but....I agree. Fuck the Muslims. They can have a fucking Muslim stamp in Iraq or something. I find it very inappropriate, but very typical of the power structure to push something the masses don't want down our throats trying to force us into acceptance.(ie: Gay Marriage)
I hope you get pranked by someone in a parking garage.
hehe, no patience for the stiffly stifferson.

Thank god someone got it before I got labelled as the IRL PEEKAY threat!

*BOIIIIIIING*

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » July 24, 2004, 2:00 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL, well I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, but....I agree. Fuck the Muslims. They can have a fucking Muslim stamp in Iraq or something. I find it very inappropriate, but very typical of the power structure to push something the masses don't want down our throats trying to force us into acceptance.(ie: Gay Marriage)

Fucking bigot. No, I'm not labeling you. You just are.

Rekaar. · Post by **Rekaar.** » July 24, 2004, 4:34 am

It frustrates me that the separation of church and state mantra only gets brought out when you're talking about Christianity. Maybe that's what the sentiment behind the email comes from.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge people that would forward an email like that, so many people don't realize they're propogating racism until they are confronted with it. Most of the time they repent immediately when they see how bad they sound. Try it the next time you hear a racist joke in your office.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » July 24, 2004, 4:59 am

Rekaar. wrote:It frustrates me that the separation of church and state mantra only gets brought out when you're talking about Christianity. Maybe that's what the sentiment behind the email comes from.

what? every year since the 1920's the post office has brought out christmas stamps. how many people do you hear whining about the seperation of church and state there? now they want to do a muslim holiday stamp and all the righties start slithering out of from under their rocks and either being outright racist and militant about it, or subversive like you and bringing up things like the seperation of church and state.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 24, 2004, 5:06 am

i don't care what's on teh stamp as long as it gets my letter or whatever i'm sending to its final destination.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 24, 2004, 9:05 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL, well I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, but....I agree. Fuck the Muslims. They can have a fucking Muslim stamp in Iraq or something. I find it very inappropriate, but very typical of the power structure to push something the masses don't want down our throats trying to force us into acceptance.(ie: Gay Marriage)

I had respect for you as a member of the "other side" before you made that post, now all that respect has been lost, and then some

Fucking ignorant white trash peice of shit

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » July 24, 2004, 9:40 am

And Midnyte sinks to a new low.
Wonder if anyone in here even bother to listen to him any more.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » July 24, 2004, 10:20 am

Hesten wrote:And Midnyte sinks to a new low.
Wonder if anyone in here even bother to listen to him any more.

Cartalas does. And mumbles agreement while he sucks his cock.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » July 26, 2004, 11:11 am

While I do find the email disgusting in it's intention, to promote hate, I do wonder how many "Christmas" stamps are really "Christian" based and not Holiday based.

Don't get me wrong, I would suspect that there were many earlier this century I just don't remember seeing one (not that I ever sent a bunch of letters). If we have done it for Christians, we should do it for Muslims - Separation of Church and state should hold there. Of course if we haven't done it for one we shouldn't do it for the other...

Another intersting note is the "can't put the ten commandments on federal pro!perty" I guess they were so excited about making their point they forgot how to type. It's also pretty funny that some people think a stamp, which is nothing more than a picture which will run for a couple of months, compares in anyway to a granite statue in a federal building... Now if a bunch of Hindus wanted to put a Golden Calf at a federal building I can see the arguement but otherwise... heh.

Marb

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » July 26, 2004, 11:44 am

kyoukan wrote:
Rekaar. wrote:It frustrates me that the separation of church and state mantra only gets brought out when you're talking about Christianity. Maybe that's what the sentiment behind the email comes from.
what? every year since the 1920's the post office has brought out christmas stamps. how many people do you hear whining about the seperation of church and state there? now they want to do a muslim holiday stamp and all the righties start slithering out of from under their rocks and either being outright racist and militant about it, or subversive like you and bringing up things like the seperation of church and state.

Didn't about 90% of you argue with me about Christmas not being a religious holiday 9 months or so ago? Why is it only a religious holiday when it suits your needs?

miir · Post by **miir** » July 26, 2004, 12:44 pm

LOL, well I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, but....I agree. Fuck the Muslims. They can have a fucking Muslim stamp in Iraq or something. I find it very inappropriate, but very typical of the power structure to push something the masses don't want down our throats trying to force us into acceptance.(ie: Gay Marriage)

Midnyte, you epitomize so many negative American stereotypes.
Much like George W Bush.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » July 26, 2004, 1:17 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:
kyoukan wrote:
Rekaar. wrote:It frustrates me that the separation of church and state mantra only gets brought out when you're talking about Christianity. Maybe that's what the sentiment behind the email comes from.
what? every year since the 1920's the post office has brought out christmas stamps. how many people do you hear whining about the seperation of church and state there? now they want to do a muslim holiday stamp and all the righties start slithering out of from under their rocks and either being outright racist and militant about it, or subversive like you and bringing up things like the seperation of church and state.
Didn't about 90% of you argue with me about Christmas not being a religious holiday 9 months or so ago? Why is it only a religious holiday when it suits your needs?

Because that would be inconvenient.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » July 26, 2004, 1:50 pm

Truant wrote:
Hesten wrote:And Midnyte sinks to a new low.
Wonder if anyone in here even bother to listen to him any more.
Cartalas does. And mumbles agreement while he sucks his cock.

Fuck off!!

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » July 26, 2004, 2:07 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:
kyoukan wrote:
Rekaar. wrote:It frustrates me that the separation of church and state mantra only gets brought out when you're talking about Christianity. Maybe that's what the sentiment behind the email comes from.
what? every year since the 1920's the post office has brought out christmas stamps. how many people do you hear whining about the seperation of church and state there? now they want to do a muslim holiday stamp and all the righties start slithering out of from under their rocks and either being outright racist and militant about it, or subversive like you and bringing up things like the seperation of church and state.
Didn't about 90% of you argue with me about Christmas not being a religious holiday 9 months or so ago? Why is it only a religious holiday when it suits your needs?

Its a religious holiday although most people celebrate it as a commercial holiday, including so-called Christians. I'm not sure what post you are talking about but I imagine that was the general discussion. Maybe you should link the thread instead of being vague about who said what.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » July 26, 2004, 5:11 pm

I don't recall saying christmas was not a religious holiday; you'll have to be more specific.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 26, 2004, 9:53 pm

Didn't the USPS become a non-government entity several years back?

Krurk · Post by **Krurk** » July 26, 2004, 11:31 pm

Tremble before the power if the mighty Wikipedia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... al_Service

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » July 27, 2004, 12:02 am

Im anything but Christian and i celebrate christmas, hell for that manner i know some muslims that celebrate christmas

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 27, 2004, 12:57 am

Krurk wrote:Tremble before the power if the mighty Wikipedia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta ... al_Service

Ahh, that's right, it wasn't privatized, but it was changed from being an agency to a corporation.

:A government owned corporation doesn't have stockholders such as a private corporation, instead they are owned by the government. This basically gives the postal service the ability to operate independently, but still allows a higher level of govt regulation than a private company. Since the postal service is a govt owned corp, instead of a govt department or agency, they do not directly receive their funding from the federal budget, and must rely on revenue (such as sale of postage, etc.) for funding. --[[User:WhiteDragon|WhiteDragon]] 13:32, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » July 27, 2004, 1:11 am

Here's a better link (imo)!

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blpostalservice.htm

Drolgin Steingrinder · Post by **Drolgin Steingrinder** » July 27, 2004, 2:01 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL, well I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, but....I agree. Fuck the Muslims. They can have a fucking Muslim stamp in Iraq or something. I find it very inappropriate, but very typical of the power structure to push something the masses don't want down our throats trying to force us into acceptance.(ie: Gay Marriage)
I hope you get pranked by someone in a parking garage.

Christopher Walken concurs.

Bubba Grizz · Post by **Bubba Grizz** » July 27, 2004, 2:37 pm

From the Virus and Hoaxes website:
(I post the link if requested)

First Published February, 2003

I have been receiving inquiries about this chain letter for several months. It claims that we are not good Americans unless we boycott a commemorative stamp issued by the United States Postal Service honoring the Muslim Eid Holidays. Using the stamp, according to the chain letter author, is a "slap in the face to all those Americans that died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors".

This is not exactly a hoax since there is such a stamp. But I should point out that this US Postal Service stamp was issued 10 days BEFORE the terrorist attack on the WTC. I must add also, that it has been fairly popular. This may account for its reissue in 2002.
The meaning of Eid in Islam is reoccurring festival or celebration of happiness. It is much more like a type of thanksgiving holiday to God. Islam has two of these Eid a year. Even President Bush has issued Greetings to those celebrating the EID holiday, and went on to list all the areas in which Muslim Americans have contributed to our country. The White House web site also posts information about this stamp which implies his approval of its use. (See resources below)

Of course, the fact that it has been moderately popular has gulled some bigoted individuals. I must say that personally I don't lump all Muslims into the same category as the terrorists anymore than I would throw all Christians into the same category as those who bomb abortion clinics and shoot doctors. Most Muslims are peace-loving people who just want the best for their kids like anyone else. My opinion is that boycotting this stamp is an example of the kind of hate-mongering that just feeds the beast in all of us.

As you know, if you are a regular reader, I'm opposed to forwarding any type of chain letter. However, in this case I oppose not only the chain letter method used for spreading this message, but the message itself.

RESOURCES:

USPS News: Philatelic Releases - Eid Stamp Part of Holiday Celebrations Series. 01 August 2001
President Issues Eid al-Fitr Greeting. White House Web Site.

About the Stamp. White House Web Site.

Here is an example of the chain letter circulating in late 2002 and early 2003:

Dear Fellow Patriotic Americans:

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103.
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993.
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon.
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military Barracks in Saudi Arabia.
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa.
REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE.
REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the World Trade Center on 9/11/01.
REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks.

Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class holiday postage stamp. I strongly urge you to REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp when purchasing your stamps at the post office.

To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors.
I also strongly urge you to pass this along to every Patriotic AMERICAN you know, whether by email or otherwise.

Screw the post office for feeling the need to be politically correct. America is turning into a nation of fools.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 27, 2004, 2:58 pm

Well alright then..........Fuck Whitey!

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » July 27, 2004, 3:10 pm

oh yeah, cause god knows its all about "fuck somebody."

simple-minded twat

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 27, 2004, 3:15 pm

Lalanae wrote:oh yeah, cause god knows its all about "fuck somebody."

simple-minded twat

Someone has to get fucked, aye. When the shit hits the fans, it's all about assigning blame rather than focusing on fixing the problem. I just figured I would say "Fuck" to a crowd that would get support on these boards.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » July 27, 2004, 3:24 pm

A ball-gag, some nylon rope and a cattle prod would fix you right good.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 27, 2004, 3:48 pm

Dregor Thule wrote:A ball-gag, some nylon rope and a cattle prod would fix you right good.

Sexually groteque liberal!!!! Ann Coulter and a Smith & Wesson would ye up right.

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » July 27, 2004, 4:32 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Dregor Thule wrote:A ball-gag, some nylon rope and a cattle prod would fix you right good.
Sexually groteque liberal!!!! Ann Coulter and a Smith & Wesson would ye up right.

That was almost english, congratulations! Keep working on the primitive tools.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » July 27, 2004, 6:40 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I just figured I would say "Fuck" to a crowd that would get support on these boards.

Er.. you mean... people?

I suggest you verbally attack chickens. Everyone loves some tasty-ass chicken! Fuck chickens. Gimme my club sandwich.

... Wait, what was I talking about?

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » July 28, 2004, 8:25 am

Dregor Thule wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Dregor Thule wrote:A ball-gag, some nylon rope and a cattle prod would fix you right good.
Sexually groteque liberal!!!! Ann Coulter and a Smith & Wesson would ye up right.
That was almost english, congratulations! Keep working on the primitive tools.

Kind of like a fork and knife for you?

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 28, 2004, 9:14 am

Dregor Thule wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
Dregor Thule wrote:A ball-gag, some nylon rope and a cattle prod would fix you right good.
Sexually groteque liberal!!!! Ann Coulter and a Smith & Wesson would ye up right.
That was almost english, congratulations! Keep working on the primitive tools.

Aye that was bad. I had a customer walk in, so I finished it, but very poorly. But, you got the idea.

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