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Cymbals
Posted: June 6, 2004, 9:34 pm
by MooZilla
My dad's finally ploppin down some cash to get me a set. We already have the 5 set Mapex Pro-M being sent, now i'm just looking for a cymbal set, preferrably with a hard case to transport them in.
The drum guru that we bought the set from reccomended Sabian (as my dad did too) and i've been looking on
http://www.ajpropercussion.com at a few cymbal sets.
Now im assuming there are a few fellow drummers out there on VV and i need your advice/reccomendations.
Here are the choices that i've narrowed it down to
Set 1 -
http://www.ajspropercussion.com/index.a ... rodID=2709
(A bit more expensive)
Set 2 -
http://www.ajspropercussion.com/index.a ... rodID=2707
(Less expensive)
Set 3 -
http://www.ajspropercussion.com/index.a ... rodID=2723
(Cheapest)
Thanks

Posted: June 6, 2004, 9:48 pm
by Arborealus
I'd go for the cheaper set initially...They are sabians and will be just fine for the most part...Cymbals are very like guitars you will continue to acquire different individual cymbals and maintain a substantial collection for different uses sounds etc...so ya know start slow and add them as you need...
Posted: June 6, 2004, 10:07 pm
by MooZilla
Poor people like me dont have collections of anything except debt

Posted: June 6, 2004, 10:51 pm
by Pherr the Dorf
One word
Zildjian
Posted: June 7, 2004, 3:17 pm
by masteen
From personal experience, Zildjians suck unless you play them LOUD. They were the best for marching band, but we never used them for jazz or symphonic band.
Posted: June 7, 2004, 5:52 pm
by Drolgin Steingrinder
It all depends on your drumming style and your wallet size. There's a relatively new brand (think they started in 95 or 96) called 'Turkish' that sells some very decent bundles at low cost. They're at least as good as the lower-end Zildjians, Paistes and Sabians.
The best thing though is to bring a music player of some sorts to the store with you, slot in a minus-1 CD or tape or whatever, and go to town. If you already have a set of cymbals that you like, take them with you and compare the sounds - remembering exactly how your cymbals sound require perfect pitch and a pretty amazing memory.
Posted: June 7, 2004, 6:45 pm
by Jarori Bloodletter
Pherr the Dorf wrote:One word
Zildjian
Well said, I play ONLY with Zildjian's. i had used many many others..
Trust me go with Z =)
Ive been playing drums for 13 yrs now
Posted: June 7, 2004, 6:57 pm
by MooZilla
I'm not going with Zildijan just from personal experience. They guy reccomended Sabian, and he's a rock drumming god.
Posted: June 7, 2004, 7:42 pm
by Siji
Zildijan's are kinda like Marshalls are to amps.. there are much better brands out there, but they're the most popular so people often mistake that for the best. Not to say either brand sucks, they're just not always the best for all situations.
Posted: June 7, 2004, 8:26 pm
by Aslanna
And remember... In most cases you get what you pay for
Posted: June 7, 2004, 8:44 pm
by Pherr the Dorf
Cymbal making is an art form. I would agree that the lower end Z cymbals are no better and slightly more expensive then their competition, it is on the higher end that the difference shows itself. Since you are going lower end, go with what works for you.
Posted: June 7, 2004, 10:08 pm
by Drolgin Steingrinder
Well if you're already fixed on Sabian then I don't see why you are asking here.
Posted: June 7, 2004, 10:16 pm
by MooZilla
I'm asking which set i should get. I thought maybe someone had bought from Sabian before, possibly even one of these and they could tell me which one to go for.
Posted: June 8, 2004, 6:05 am
by Spang
Pherr the Dorf wrote:One word
Zildjian
didn't read every post. stopped when i read the above quote. you can't go wrong with Zildjen. Pherr is right.
Posted: June 8, 2004, 9:12 pm
by MooZilla
Well i've gone wrong one time 2 times too many with zildijan.
Posted: June 8, 2004, 9:54 pm
by Drolgin Steingrinder
Well in that case, I'd suggest buying the cheapest set. That way you have a *set*, and you can supplement with single cymbals as you go along. It's not going to sound great, since the cheap set will probably cost about as much as a single good 21" ride, but at least you'll be able to play.
Honestly, go to a music store, try out their sets, as many as they will let you. The high-end Zildjian kick Sabian's ass.
Posted: June 9, 2004, 12:33 pm
by MooZilla
Well thanks for the advice

Once I get a job and start makin some money i can look into getting some better cymbals.
Posted: June 9, 2004, 2:46 pm
by masteen
It also depends on what and how you play. My buddy went through HS jazz band with just a high hat and a ride.
Posted: June 9, 2004, 8:35 pm
by MooZilla
I'm in a rock/hard rock band right now and we're mostly doing nirvana and soundgarden covers.