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KY or Astroglide

Posted: April 14, 2004, 7:24 pm
by Hayley
Is there a difference aside from cost? My doctor actually recommended the Astroglide and now I'm wondering why. Discuss!

Posted: April 14, 2004, 7:25 pm
by Dregor Thule
If it's good enough for astronauts, it's good enough for you.

Posted: April 14, 2004, 7:31 pm
by Zygar_ Cthulhukin
Astroglide works great, but KY tastes better.........oops!

Posted: April 14, 2004, 8:04 pm
by Akaran_D
Learned somthing the hard way.
Never use a condom on a pussy you plan on licking afterwards.


TrojanLube + All Natural Female Excretions + Latex + your tounge = absolute no chance of getting that taste out of your mouth for the next hour.

Posted: April 14, 2004, 8:50 pm
by Voronwë
Akaran_D wrote:Learned somthing the hard way.
Never use a condom on a pussy you plan on licking afterwards.


TrojanLube + All Natural Female Excretions + Latex + your tounge = absolute no chance of getting that taste out of your mouth for the next hour.
depends ont he condom....but thats a two way street. have been "finished off" after wearing the nastiest of all condoms , the light blue Trojan ENZ w/ spermacidal lubricant.

little soldiers never had a chance....

anyway, Nimbrethil househould uses KY liquid, not the gel.

Posted: April 14, 2004, 8:51 pm
by Winnow
Drink Tang and it doesn't matter what you use!

Posted: April 14, 2004, 9:54 pm
by Canelek
AstroGlide is like a slip N slide! :D

Posted: April 14, 2004, 10:23 pm
by Morgrym
KY is more water based and can tend to create a nice mess. Also, it will wear out and run out quicker due to the same water base. Astroglide was made for one reason and one reason only...can't go wrong there.

Posted: April 15, 2004, 2:58 am
by kyoukan
voted for astroglide but never tried the water based KY. I assume that the old petroleum based KY isn't even in the fucking running here, because that shit is nasty.

Posted: April 15, 2004, 9:59 am
by Truant
I endorse astroglide fully.

Posted: April 15, 2004, 10:54 am
by Xyphir
Currently using the KY Warming Liquid Lube, but after reading the ingredients I'm going to have to switch to something less toxic and potentially cancer inducing.

Ingredients: Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, Acacia Honey Type O, Methylparaben

Edit:
Ingredients of Astroglide: Purified Water, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Polyquaternium, Methylparaben, Propylparaben

At least the main ingredient is water in Astroglide, unlike KY which is petroleum based.

Posted: April 15, 2004, 11:20 am
by Arundel Pajo
Xyphir wrote:Currently using the KY Warming Liquid Lube, but after reading the ingredients I'm going to have to switch to something less toxic and potentially cancer inducing.

Ingredients: Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, Acacia Honey Type O, Methylparaben

Edit:
Ingredients of Astroglide: Purified Water, Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Polyquaternium, Methylparaben, Propylparaben

At least the main ingredient is water in Astroglide, unlike KY which is petroleum based.
There's no petroleum in either of those ingredient lists. I saw a callout for the propylene glycol, but that's an alcohol (or rather, an alcohol derivative).

A quick litmus test for whether or not a lube is petroleum-based is to test whether or not it breaks down condoms. If a lube is "condom safe," then it's water-based.

edit> Don't forget, also, that glycerin is also an alcohol derivative that is very closely related to propylene glycol. In fact, when synthesizing one, you usually get some of the other in the mix, as well. Propylene glycol has a backbone of 3 carbons with two hydroxy groups attatched. Glycerine has 3 carbons and 3 hydroxy groups. They're both just in there to make it all slippy and good.

Posted: April 15, 2004, 11:33 am
by Xyphir
Oops... meant to say KY is alcohol based.

With the added honey, it tends to create a bit of a sticky situation, but it doesn't taste too bad either. :vv_la:

Any idea what causes the warming?

Posted: April 15, 2004, 11:34 am
by vn_Tanc
Where's my "Marmite" option?

Posted: April 15, 2004, 11:44 am
by Arundel Pajo
I would guess it's either one of two things:

1) The trick to the heating lies in the increased amount of propylene glycol. It's a very mild skin irritant, so that could account for the "heating" feeling. Also - though it's related to glycerine, the loss of a hydroxy group will change the characteristics quite a bit. Perhaps one of those characteristics accounts for the warming...

2) Propylene glycol can react to make aldehydes, ketones, and organic acids. The mix may be set up to produce a spontaneous exothermic reaction between the propylene glycol, perhaps the sugars in the honey, and some oil or compound frequently found in your skin.

I kinda favor the second guess, as there seems to be a big variance in the amount of warming people experience, and that could be determined by the concentration of reactants (what's in their skin). But those are just my two guesses, I have no real idea, and am not a professional chemist - I just took some advanced chem classes.

Posted: April 15, 2004, 12:17 pm
by Dexail
Where's this option?

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Posted: April 15, 2004, 1:30 pm
by Seebs
If either one helped diminish clottnig, I'd use it. Otherwise, its a push.

Posted: April 15, 2004, 4:24 pm
by Siji
Have yet to have a need for either, but would use Astro just on what friends have said.

Natural lube > *

Posted: April 17, 2004, 9:44 am
by Vaemas
Astroglide. Hands down. The GF says her gay friends swear by it. Supposedly highly recommended by the gay community...

Posted: April 17, 2004, 10:50 am
by Axien_Dellusions
Astroglide is easier to clean up, KY still makes me feel I'm at the gyno's office.

Posted: April 17, 2004, 7:05 pm
by Ralrona Alvina
Liquid Silk for me. I didn't like Astroglide, was a bit too sticky for me, so I felt gross.

Posted: April 18, 2004, 12:16 pm
by Truant
sticky?

Posted: April 18, 2004, 6:14 pm
by Fairweather Pure
I'm surprised to see someone else mention liquid silk, seeing as how it is both rather expensive and pretty new on the market. Simply put, there is nothing better. Nothing. Once you use it, you'll never go back. It cleans up very easily in a shower, does not stain clothes/leather/furniture, and it's really easy to clean off toys as well.

A dab will do ya, that's for sure!

Posted: April 19, 2004, 3:36 pm
by Seebs
Liquid Silk now will get my business. Gotta work better than the spit in palm method.

Posted: April 19, 2004, 11:39 pm
by Ralrona Alvina
heh, came free with a toy, I think Fair. :D We've had this for about 6 months now I believe. The small bottle 6.5 or whatever it is.
I quickly tossed the bottle of astroglide after using Liquid silk once. Hubby even likes Liquid Silk better because "its not as slimey as Astroglide".

Tru if you were asking if I felt sticky after using liquid silk - No not so much. It can get sticky if you get really worked up going at it, but if you stop and then go again its fine.

More reviews here

Posted: April 20, 2004, 5:21 am
by Truant
no I meant sticky as in what happened...

I've never had a single problem with astroglide personally, so I'm curious.

Posted: April 20, 2004, 5:57 am
by Ralrona Alvina
For me, its like having someone sneeze all over your snatch. :P

Posted: April 21, 2004, 10:15 pm
by Drasta
if you wanna use something good ... get this stuff called WET .... if not use astroglide ... thats what i use .... and what Vaemas said is true =-P

Posted: April 21, 2004, 11:38 pm
by Siji
If you're in a situation to be using a lubricant and you're thinking about it being sticky or not.. you must be married.

Single guys, in a position to be using lubricant, aren't thinking about whether it's sticky or not. They're thinking about the number of different places they could use said lubricant. :lol:

Posted: April 21, 2004, 11:54 pm
by MooZilla
Fuck that. Soap works fine with my real doll.