Carnivale

Fesuni Chopsui · Post by **Fesuni Chopsui** » August 20, 2003, 12:07 am

A new dark drama coming to HBO this fall...the show, apparently, surrounds a group of "carnes" and reveals the truth about the dark lives that people within the circus actually live - it involves dark satanic rituals and some kind of obsession with the "bringer of Light" (IE: The main protagonist of the show)....anywho, if you saw Terminator 3, you will be glad to know that they are giving the guy that plays John Conner a chance at a serious roll as the main character in this show - the rest of the cast, from what I have seen is also excellent

Verdict: Keep your eye on this one!

Apollyon · Post by **Apollyon** » August 20, 2003, 4:58 pm

"Bringer of Light" or "Lightbringer" are names for Lucifer fyi. Not sure if that's relevant to the use in the show or not, but that's the deal.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » August 21, 2003, 9:46 am

I've had my eye on this one as well. I think it looks X-File-ish in it's presentation. It does have a great cast and I hope it lives up to my expectations.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » August 21, 2003, 9:58 am

Got linkage?

Ennia · Post by **Ennia** » August 21, 2003, 11:52 am

http://www.hbo.com/carnivale/?ntrack_pa ... ory0_show4

Shashonna · Post by **Shashonna** » August 31, 2003, 2:04 am

I cant wait for this to start 1st time I saw anything was a 30sec lil clip and just wanst enough heh

Kithyen · Post by **Kithyen** » September 18, 2003, 8:13 pm

****Some Spoilers Ahead****

The show revolves around two primary characters. One is a preacher named Justin Crowe who has been having visions that he believes are being shown to him by God. The other character is a man in his 20s named Ben Hawkins who has hid his gift of healing from others more than likely due to his mother's rants about him being marked by the devil for his power, and a warning of, "You give life you gotta take it from something else."

After stumbling upon Ben Hawikins who is seen burying his recently deceased mother, Samson, the head of the carnival, has been given specific instructions from "Management" to hire Ben Hawkins on full time. The reasons for this decision will probably be revealed in future episodes.

The series looks like your typical good vs. evil show, however it's the characters that will make this series different from others. The characters in of themselves range from your typical carnival workers like the lizard man, the siamese twins, the strong man, fortune teller, the bearded lady and the dancers.

Then their's more mystical ones like the lady who lies in bed all day in a catatonic/comatose state but who can still communicate with her fortune telling, card-reading daughter. A man who seemingly has the ability to read minds and who warns the leader of the carnival group that Ben Hawkins is possibly dangerous after he tries to read his dreams and almost kills himself in the process.

The season premiere kicked ass and it leaves you with so many questions you want to continue watching it to see where it all leads. I'm especially interested in seeing who's on what side as it seems to be a classic story of the Christ and Anti-Christ figure both of which have no idea of what they are and where their destiny lies.

I believe the show revolves around the carnival as the last bastion of mystical energy. Of wonder that was eventually traded off for reason, as stated in the beginning of the pilot.

Definitely catch this show if you have HBO. It's on Sundays at 9pm with a repeat on Wednesday in the same time slot.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » September 18, 2003, 8:28 pm

This show is...enrapturing. Its really unique and exciting.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » September 24, 2003, 8:48 am

I love this show. the preacher is freaky for sure, can't wait to see him unravel since he just bought Chins. The scene with the dude molesting the Asian kid was creeeepy.

Post by **Sylvus** » September 24, 2003, 12:23 pm

I saw the first episode, it made me want to watch more. What day/time do the new episodes come out?

Kithyen · Post by **Kithyen** » September 27, 2003, 5:03 am

Episodes first appear on HBO sundays at 9 (or maybe 9:30 I can't remember) est. Rest of the week is wednesday's roughly same time slot and saturday's as well.

And yes, the owner of Chin's with that asian boy was extremely freaky.

Lor · Post by **Lor** » September 28, 2003, 9:26 am

Was the first episode the one with the dude getting the kid in shins? if so then I saw it last night at like 12:30 am...... this looks like it will be a killer show.

Kithyen · Post by **Kithyen** » September 28, 2003, 5:32 pm

yulp that's the one. Got this show scheduled for TIVO every week

So far it's a decent show.

Shashonna · Post by **Shashonna** » September 29, 2003, 7:43 pm

The kid in Chins was the 2nd episode...3rd was last night. THis so far is a great series. The fortune teller is getting the info from her mother I dont think she has any talent at it, but thats just my opnion from the way she seems to appear to be listening as shes telling a fortune. But this is a great show. Sundays at 9pm est 1hour long, it repeats for me on another HBO at midnight heh I have like 8 HBOs so I watch it at midnight so I dont miss Law and Order Criminal INtent hehe

Post by **Sylvus** » December 2, 2003, 5:02 pm

So now that the first season is over, what did you all think? I watched it pretty religiously; I really liked it. I'm interested to find out more about "Management" and what exactly is up with Brother Justin.

I just hope it doesn't take them 18 months to come out with the next season like they do with the Sopranos.

Krimson Klaw · Post by **Krimson Klaw** » December 3, 2003, 9:29 am

I watched every episode but the last one due to moving, will catch a repeat this week I hope. My wife and I were hooked on this show, it's so different. I am impressed that they managed to pull off a mystical quality to the early 20th century, pretty creative writers they have. Brother Justin has to become a cruel monster, will be interesting to see his carnage in the name of 'purification'.

Shashonna · Post by **Shashonna** » December 3, 2003, 1:35 pm

Was great. Cant wait til it starts back up. I wanna know WHO will be back since the ending was left open. But was great !!

Post by **Sylvus** » December 3, 2003, 1:37 pm

Yeah, I was pretty surprised that like 4 or 5 of the main characters appeared to be killed off. But I bet it will end up being far less than that.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » December 3, 2003, 4:04 pm

I need to get me some Absinthe now.

Kithyen · Post by **Kithyen** » December 3, 2003, 6:12 pm

Anyone seen the movie Magnolia? The end music to the season finale sounded almost identical to a composition done in Magnolia. But I checked and wasn't the same guy. Kinda wondered if the creator was inspired by (or ripped off) Jon Brion. Either way it doesn't matter. It added some great atmosphere for the events leading up to the end of the episode. Especially with Brother Justin's Voiced over sermon for the events.

Post by **Sylvus** » January 10, 2005, 12:55 pm

Carnivale is back, who watched the season premiere last night?

I missed the first 20 minutes or so, need to catch a repeat. Unfortunately I don't recall all of what happened last season, but it appears this season is starting off with a bang. I believe there's an encore showing of it tonight at 8pm EST on HBO.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » January 10, 2005, 3:39 pm

Thank god for HBO on demand. Will catch it here in a little bit.

yowzers, this season will be nice.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » January 10, 2005, 3:42 pm

I didn't watch the first season of this, but I'm interested in the second.
Can anyone give a quick rundown of who is who and what for a new guy comming into it?

Post by **Sylvus** » January 11, 2005, 2:26 pm

I'm afraid that'd be pretty difficult to put in a nutshell. If I were you I'd check and see if it's out on DVD and watch that. Or if you have OnDemand, i think that season one is currently on HBO OnDemand.

There are only 13 episodes, shouldn't take too long to get caught up.

Fash · Post by **Fash** » January 11, 2005, 2:33 pm

I watch maybe an hour of television a month without the sopranos being on....

this show did nothing for me.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » February 21, 2005, 3:27 am

This season kicks major ass.

Post by **Sylvus** » February 21, 2005, 3:02 pm

Yeah it does, last night's was great, I'm surprised that

[Show]: Ben finally caught up with Scutter. Is Management dead or not? And wtf is with the blue blood. Interesting finally seeing him.

I'm guessing we're less than 3 episodes from the season finale, what with Deadwood starting in a couple weeks and all.

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » March 7, 2005, 1:23 pm

3 episodes left... is that for the series or for the season?
Things look like they're about to come to an end.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » March 7, 2005, 1:48 pm

series, i cant see it going any further

Shashonna · Post by **Shashonna** » March 10, 2005, 5:13 pm

Dont say that

OK someone help me, I have missed the first 30mins of last Sundays episode like 4 times now. Who tared and feathered Jonesy...and is that waht happend I always come in as hes getting healed. PLease tell me if you remember thanks a ton

Akaran_D · Post by **Akaran_D** » March 10, 2005, 5:30 pm

[Show]: Episode before that, there is an accident on the ferris wheel. A lady saw him drinking a shot of whiskey earlier in the day. The carnivale takes off, leaving the mob in hte dust.. so they thought. The husband of the lady that died kidnapped Jonesy and his girl, then drug him out and tared and feathered him while his bride watched.. you got to watch his skin blister and all that, was pretty cool. I cringed when they shoved the hot tar in his mouth.

Shashonna · Post by **Shashonna** » March 10, 2005, 5:34 pm

Thank you. I figured it had to do with that, but wasnt sure exactly what went down.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » March 10, 2005, 8:17 pm

That was a great episode. The show is so overwhelmingly dark it's nice to see something really good happen.

[Show]: Jonesy is one of the only honest people in the whole damn show, it's nice to see him get healed. My heart lept when he realized he was no longer crippled...that was a really great scene.

Btw, the Deadwood season premier, holy fucking god that was great. The fight scene was so fucking badass. Fuck!

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » March 14, 2005, 1:51 am

Holy.
Fucking.
Shit.

that is all.

Post by **Sylvus** » March 16, 2005, 2:18 pm

Apparently they had it planned as a 2-season deal from the get go, so there are currently only 2 episodes left until the series is over.

While I really like the show, it'll be nice to have closure.

Burke · Post by **Burke** » March 28, 2005, 7:26 pm

I saw no closure on the second season's finale. It seemed to leave everything wide open. I suppose they wanted to leave the option of a 3rd season open, and they certainly have.

Post by **Sylvus** » March 29, 2005, 4:53 pm

Yeah, from doing more research it appears that the creator was being cryptic and contradictory, not sure how much was on purpose and how much was undecided.

[Show]: one of the things that he said was that the child of light and child of darkness both HAD to be male, and it appears he went against that with making Sophie now the child of dark.

Perhaps it just ended up doing better than they'd originally planned and they added more to the story, but it certainly looks like season 3 will be coming.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » March 29, 2005, 11:59 pm

[Show]: but if you noticed, sofie's eyes were black when she killed jonesy then went on to heal brother justin (i think) so it might be a mix of both!

Post by **Sylvus** » March 30, 2005, 11:58 am

[Show]: I still want to believe that she's pregnant from when her and Ben did the babymaking dance

zotha · Post by **zotha** » April 11, 2005, 8:05 am

Knauf said in an interview I read that the story he has planned out will take 6 seasons to tell in full.

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » June 17, 2005, 11:10 pm

its all over. hbo will not renew this show.

Kithyen · Post by **Kithyen** » June 18, 2005, 4:08 am

Yea I heard about that. I missed a lot of the second season but I'm not sure if I'm gonna pick them up on DVD cause I figured it may not have been properly finished.