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Yay! Almost out of hell! :)
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:20 am
by Canelek
Thank god I am moving soon. /bye fucktown!! Take your cellphones and your trendy H2's and shove them so far up your collective asses until you break out your teeth from the inside!!
My brother just bought a house in Portland, OR and is offering an extra room till I get settled....of course, I need to get my resume up to date(worked for same company for 4 years) and have a few other things to clear up....
Looks like Portland has some good opportunity...median DBA salary at around 70k and housing is moderately priced...
Did I say I hate CA?? This fucking stupid ass state can suck my sack until it has the consistancy of an apricot.
3-6 months and I am out of this shithole where tax dollars go to illegals. My god, I can't believe I was able to take this shit for 14 years. Fucking treehugging/liberal/assmunching/lameass/hippie/"you can't hunt here" stuck-up fuck state. FUCK YOU California. Thanks for nothing, you waste of state. Go fish for used condoms in Santa Monica, you fuck.
Good fucking gravy, I feel like dancing naked now.
Remind me to change my car registration when I move.... I hear Oregonians hate Californians more than I do and are quick with the tire-slashin'.

Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:22 am
by Zamtuk
How does California really make you feel?
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:22 am
by Canelek
Zamtuk wrote:How does California really make you feel?
Just dandy, why do you ask?
EDIT: After further contemplation, if California were an actual person, I would love to put a 10mm Hydra-Shok(tm) through its head.

Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:32 am
by noel
Yeah this place is definitely not for everyone.
I'll be sorry to see you go man, but knowing you, it sounds like a good move for you.

Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:36 am
by Canelek
Yeah man, I need to get out or I will go insane.
For the record: Aran is one of the coolest fuckers I have ever met around here(that being LA)

Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:39 am
by Aaeamdar
I loved LA. But I think NYC is better. It is a tough choice though.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:45 am
by Canelek
At least NYC has character. LA has NONE. Ok, ok...there are some fun spots, and indeed some fun times... I had some really great times here. BUT, everytime I watch the news, I look at the big picture and see myself going buckwild on some dumbass on a cellphone...
It is just me, of course....I like hunting and eating red meat and smoking, etc...
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:57 am
by Jarori Bloodletter
I live next door to Portland Ore..
The mayor is TOTALLY fuxOrd in the head
Say hi to Property taxes
Unemplayment rate is at an alltime high there..
Othere than that its a fine place to hunt heh
I could go on n on about the school situation ...but I wont
GL!!
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:02 am
by Canelek
Hell, I would be happier in a cardboard box bud

If I move to Oregon, here is what I have(job notwithstanding):
1. 3 hours away from Bend, where my folks live(which is 10 min from MT Bachelor)
2. I get to hang with my brother...he is too fucking cool
3. I can't think of a '3' atm...
I have a few headhunters(recruiters) on the fires, but I ain't moving till I have something going...I been unemployed before and it is a bitch.
EDIT: Originally, I wanted to go to Raleigh/Durham, NC. Maybe someday I will go there, but you really can't beat cheap rent during a transition....an I have no friends in NC, that I can think of.
Re: Yay! Almost out of hell! :)
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:04 am
by Wiever
Canelek wrote:Fucking treehugging/liberal/assmunching/lameass/hippie/"you can't hunt here" stuck-up fuck state. FUCK YOU
Hate to burst your bubble, but Portland is VERY liberal

Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:08 am
by Canelek
65$ for 4-year concealed carry permit.... not too liberal. Oregon is an interesting state...sure, I don't agree with the OR gov for the most part, but like I said, a cardboard box beats CA

Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:22 am
by kyoukan
I kind of like Fucktown.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:24 am
by Canelek
It is only REALLY fucktown if you live here, babydoll

Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:25 am
by Wiever
#3. 90 minutes from Mt. Hood
#4. 90 minutes from Shorties (surf is great here, just cold as hell)
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:25 am
by noel
Thing I didn't like about Oregon was not being able to pump my own gas. That was... weird.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:30 am
by kyoukan
Aranuil wrote:Thing I didn't like about Oregon was not being able to pump my own gas. That was... weird.
They passed that law to force service stations to hire more people as gas attendants.
Like someone already said, Oregon is ultra-liberal. The ratio of conservatives to liberals is actually probably higher in CA. Oregonians pay a stupid amount of taxes and have tons of leftish social programs most states lack. It's also a very wealthy state though so you don't see it as much.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:33 am
by Zamtuk
Canelek wrote:EDIT: Originally, I wanted to go to Raleigh/Durham, NC. Maybe someday I will go there, but you really can't beat cheap rent during a transition....an I have no friends in NC, that I can think of.
Right now I am spending the summer outside of NYC (a place where you can't pump your own gas goddamnit). But I leave in a few weeks to go back to UNC. So I would have been pretty close to R/D. And yes the rent owns.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 8:52 am
by Aabidano
Glad to see you're getting out of that festering PoS.
Admittedly, outside of the metro areas CA was very cool, you never run out of things to do. Unfortunately there's 5,000,000 rude, inconsiderate assholes right there with you. It's still the best place I ever left. Between taxes, the dogshit school system and the idiots who infest the place, I really hate that state. I was giddy and the wife was cheering when we crossed the state line leaving, one of the few times I think that word has ever applied to me
Have you ever met anyone who moved away from LA or NYC and moved back? I haven't.
Thank God for the electoral college or those self-righteous tree hugging buttfuckers would be dictating policy to the rest of the country.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 10:01 am
by Kluden
Cane...come to DC!
Hey, congrats on the nice looking prospect. I have a friend or two in Portland, I think, that I may have to visit soon.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 10:28 am
by Deward
Excuse me for being stupid but what do you mena by can't pump your own gas. Is it a law or something there? I live in Wisconsin and if you want people to pump gas for you then it adds $.50 per gallon IF you can even find a place. I haven't personally seen a full serve gas station in years.
Deward
Posted: July 14, 2003, 10:33 am
by Boogahz
Think Oregon and PA were the only two states I ever saw it that way. Guess too many people are paranoid about someone making some molotov cocktails and throwing them around town. Never made sense to me.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 11:04 am
by Chidoro
It was just Oregon and Jersey. Once Oregon goes, it's only NJ that will be full serv only. Ohh, and we still pay less for gallon full serve than nearly every other state that's self serve. I'd rather stay in my car personally, but then LA never seen the winter like we had this past year. I guess it's no biggie getting out of your car out there.
So Zamtuk, where are you staying in this fine state?
Re: Yay! Almost out of hell! :)
Posted: July 14, 2003, 11:26 am
by Skogen
Canelek wrote:
3-6 months and I am out of this shithole where tax dollars go to illegals. My god, I can't believe I was able to take this shit for 14 years. Fucking treehugging/liberal/assmunching/lameass/hippie/"you can't hunt here" stuck-up fuck state. FUCK YOU California. Thanks for nothing, you waste of state. Go fish for used condoms in Santa Monica, you fuck.
Good fucking gravy, I feel like dancing naked now.
Remind me to change my car registration when I move.... I hear Oregonians hate Californians more than I do and are quick with the tire-slashin'.

Uhh...have you lived in CA anywhere elese other than LA? I live in LA too, and I fucking hate it. I moved down here from the SF bay area, which is better in every respect other than the job market & cost of living. I got married, and due to my wife's job status (on a 3-year contract) and immigration status, I had to suck it in, and move down to this deathpit.
Oh and as saying good bye to tree-hugging hippies, boy you are in for a nice surprise!! Portland has more of those than any other town I have been in! Even more than SF! You can't swing a dead cat without hitting one!
Posted: July 14, 2003, 11:29 am
by Canelek
The pumping gas thing is a little strange, but it ain't going to break my balls to have a pump-monkey fill the truck up with U-Lead. Also, the cost of living index is about 30% lower, according to what I read.

Posted: July 14, 2003, 11:32 am
by Canelek
Yeah, I lived in Newport Beach for 3 years and Santa Barbara for 8... nice towns, but everything is crazy expensive.
As far as the hippie thing...yeah, I know OR is not my 'ideal' environment, but a cardboard box in Tijuana is better than LA. And I really don't hate liberals, I just hate so many things about this state that I threw them in to the mix for the hell of it...heh
Posted: July 14, 2003, 1:50 pm
by Zamtuk
Chidoro wrote:It was just Oregon and Jersey. Once Oregon goes, it's only NJ that will be full serv only. Ohh, and we still pay less for gallon full serve than nearly every other state that's self serve. I'd rather stay in my car personally, but then LA never seen the winter like we had this past year. I guess it's no biggie getting out of your car out there.
So Zamtuk, where are you staying in this fine state?
The places where you cant pump your own gas is Oregon, Jersey, and the 5 boroughs of NYC (Queens, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Harlem). I hate it, because you can't just say 'fill it up' with out getting a fucked up look. Its nowhere near as faster, but it is nice when the attendant cleans your windows for you, but that makes me inclined to tip him, when I can do it for free.
I am currently staying in Bridgewater NJ, 30 minutes outside of NYC.
Re: Yay! Almost out of hell! :)
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:04 pm
by Sirensa
Canelek wrote:
Remind me to change my car registration when I move.... I hear Oregonians hate Californians more than I do and are quick with the tire-slashin'.

I dunno about the tire slashing, but any bad driving is clearly the fault of the california jackasses who move up here
I guess if I see you on the street I'll forget to remember you're a dirty Californian!!

Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:05 pm
by Pherr the Dorf
Heh, firstly, LA is not California, that is like saying Miami is Florida.
You could not PAY me to live in portland, or anywhere in oregon, been there, done that, ran away screaming and waving my hands like a loon. GL bud, hope you don't find 99.999% of the population as vapid as I did.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:09 pm
by Etasi
I love some parts of California, but I hate LA, and I hate that everyone I meet in Montreal assumes that being from California = being from LA. Fuck LA, it's one of the worst cities anywhere.
There are actually plenty of places in California that are conservative, love hunting and going to church (not to oversimplify, not trying to offend), etc, they're just hotter than hell and have fairly small populations. My mom lives in a town like that (though she doesn't fit in!), and it's pretty eye-opening to spend time there, especially since the rest of the time I spend in CA these days is either in Berkeley or Santa Cruz. I wouldn't want to live there, but it is good to realize just how different much of CA is from the large cities/coastal areas.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:09 pm
by Pilsburry
You hate LA almost as much as I hated Stamford, CT.
I've lived in a lot of places, that place is the only one I truly hated.
My favorite spots are
Burlington, KY (near Cinci Airport)
Alpharetta,GA (NE of Atlanta)
Bloomfield, MI (N of Detroit)
Although I wouldn't recommend Burlington to anyone, it's something you have to experience first and decide you like it. It's kinda...how do I say it politely? It's still in Kentucky. Cost of living is cheap, you can go to cinci for stuff in 15 mins, or you can be in the middle of nowhere in 5 minutes.
Atlanta is sunny, people are nice for the most part. Property isn't too bad, and atlanta is a big city. Alpharetta was a nice suburb....buckhead was a nice spot to party if your into clubs.
Bloomfield, MI is nice because you have sun in the summer but not too hot, everyone has a boat because there is a lake every 3 feet, and you can have winter sports in the snow althuogh they don't have mountains you can cross country, or ride a snowmobile, or ice boat etc...cost of living is high. People are neighborly, but not to strangers...IE not on the road.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:10 pm
by masteen
Pherr the Dorf wrote:Heh, firstly, LA is not California, that is like saying Miami is Florida.
Except that Miami is a distillation of all that is good about Florida, while L.A. is clearly pure evil.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:12 pm
by Cartalas
Zamtuk wrote:Chidoro wrote:It was just Oregon and Jersey. Once Oregon goes, it's only NJ that will be full serv only. Ohh, and we still pay less for gallon full serve than nearly every other state that's self serve. I'd rather stay in my car personally, but then LA never seen the winter like we had this past year. I guess it's no biggie getting out of your car out there.
So Zamtuk, where are you staying in this fine state?
The places where you cant pump your own gas is Oregon, Jersey, and the 5 boroughs of NYC (Queens, Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Harlem). I hate it, because you can't just say 'fill it up' with out getting a fucked up look. Its nowhere near as faster, but it is nice when the attendant cleans your windows for you, but that makes me inclined to tip him, when I can do it for free.
I am currently staying in Bridgewater NJ, 30 minutes outside of NYC.
I bet you liked it when the sniper was around?
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:18 pm
by Zamtuk
Yeah cart because I am near NYC and the sniper was in DC....
This is of course if we disregard the fact that I was in school during that time.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:23 pm
by Xzion
heh, id take tree huggin hippies any day over the backwater bible belt surrounding the state of florida outside the orlando and miami "metropolises"
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:27 pm
by Cartalas
Zamtuk wrote:Yeah cart because I am near NYC and the sniper was in DC....
This is of course if we disregard the fact that I was in school during that time.
Its not that far Zamtuk and they had wheels.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:40 pm
by Traz-KOE
Heh, don't hold back now Canno...I mean, you should really get these feelings off your chest rather than bottling them up inside like that.
Seriously, though, when the Creepy State gets to be too much you should come hang out up in the Emerald City...3hrs drive for all the latte you never wanted.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 2:50 pm
by Adelrune Argenti
Well not all California is bad. I was born and raised in the San Diego area. Moved to Seattle for 4 years, moved to Sacramento for 2 and then back here to San Diego.
Honestly, I love San Diego. LA is a different story but at least I have nice weather.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:13 pm
by Chidoro
Zamtuk wrote:
I am currently staying in Bridgewater NJ, 30 minutes outside of NYC.
I'm about 10 miles east of you. The wife and I were house hunting on Sunday in Bridgewater (and Matawan, Holmdel and a bunch of other towns noone else gives two shits about).
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:15 pm
by Skogen
Xzion wrote:heh, id take tree huggin hippies any day over the backwater bible belt surrounding the state of florida outside the orlando and miami "metropolises"
I'll second that one! Treehugging hippies over ignorant, racist, bible-thumpers any day of the week! Not that i am saying that the rest of the USA is lilke this, but CA has a lot less of them!
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:26 pm
by kyoukan
Boogahz wrote:Think Oregon and PA were the only two states I ever saw it that way. Guess too many people are paranoid about someone making some molotov cocktails and throwing them around town. Never made sense to me.
the logic behind it is if everyone pays a 1 cent more per gallon for gas, service stations can afford to hire full time pump attendants creating 10's of thousands of jobs across the state.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:33 pm
by Zamtuk
Cartalas wrote:Its not that far Zamtuk and they had wheels.
4 hours with no traffic, 5-7 with traffic, not to mention 15 dollars in tolls between DC and NYC.
The whole purpose behind the full service stations is to create more jobs. It would be a huge hit on unemployment if they went to self serve.
Chidoro,
Which town?
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:34 pm
by Sylvos
I still have not gotten used to not being able to pump my own gas in Oregon.
I get out of my car and begin walking back and have to stop and say "uh fill her up on whatever"
Just the bike lanes piss me off...and the GREEN ARROW on LEFT turns.
gljs;gagjaggl;asgag o OMFG GJL:AJRAGG:GJ:AG ARRRRGH
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:38 pm
by Chidoro
Specifically, Iselin, but the area more well known (and also just across rt 1 from me) is Woodbridge
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:41 pm
by Aabidano
masteen wrote:Except that Miami is a distillation of all that is good about Florida...
Joo sir, are a crackhead, Miami is a suburd of NYC\NJ that all the rude people move to. Miami-Dade is the only part if the state I don't like.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:45 pm
by Zamtuk
Actually the people in NYC/NJ are very nice and helpful. I found that living here does, for me at least, squash the bad reputation that they have. But, the Stanley Cup Finals didn't help matters much. Driving in NYC/NJ, however, is a totally different subject.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 3:54 pm
by Aabidano
Zamtuk wrote:Actually the people in NYC/NJ are very nice and helpful.
I don't disagree with you at all, I was very surpised the first couple times I went to NYC, the people are fantastic. It definately didn't fit the image I'd always had of NYC before going there a few times. I still wouldn't live there though.
We had to stay in uniform once when a ship I was stationed on went there, you couldn't buy a meal or a drink anywhere in the city.
The ones that migrate to Miami are by and large assholes though. That's a generalization, but after a whole bunch of business trips down there, it's justified.
Posted: July 14, 2003, 4:01 pm
by Vannoth
OR is definitely the most liberal and "hippie" place I've been to in the US, and I've been just about everywhere.
Beautiful state though. And you can't pump your own gas like Jersey.
Hood River & the Gorge own though.
-V
Posted: July 14, 2003, 4:38 pm
by Winnow
I remember Oregon as being great wilderness type state. I took a whitewater rafting trip down Deshutes/Snake rivers. Very scenic.
I also stayed at the Sun River resort which I recall being a nice time although I was pretty young on that trip.
Oregon is due for a major invasion of assholes now that the word is out that it's a decent state!
/boots them out of Arizona
Posted: July 14, 2003, 4:58 pm
by Pherr the Dorf
And just an fyi, I live in Mendocino County Ca, can you write 2 paragraphs intelligently, do you have 65 buck, gratz j00, CCW permit. Oregon, especially portland is full of vapid, self serving, dirty, trust fund baby hippies, enjoy!

Posted: July 14, 2003, 5:08 pm
by murr
Zamtuk wrote:Canelek wrote:EDIT: Originally, I wanted to go to Raleigh/Durham, NC. Maybe someday I will go there, but you really can't beat cheap rent during a transition....an I have no friends in NC, that I can think of.
Right now I am spending the summer outside of NYC (a place where you can't pump your own gas goddamnit). But I leave in a few weeks to go back to UNC. So I would have been pretty close to R/D. And yes the rent owns.
Zam? UNC? Chapel Hill? That's where I'm going to college this fall omgz! !!
and I've lived in Atlanta all my life, Decatur in fact. Not a bad area, although traffic sucks my balls. Will be glad to go north a bit too (humidity can suck my cack)