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Netscape is now in its death rattles... be prepared.

Posted: May 29, 2003, 8:52 pm
by Diae Soulmender
http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-1011296.html

Its really too bad, but with AOL/Time Warner accepting Internet Explorer as its premier Browsing Platform over there OWN product, Netscape, this likely spells disaster for Netscape... I really dont see a reason for AOL/Time Warner continuing to dump developement funds in to a browser that is DOOMED to die...

Its too bad really... oh well LONG LIVE THE KING! errr... Internet Explorer.

PS: Sorry... 2 new posts by me today, but both are worthy of a good old ass jacking flame fest of hatred!

Posted: May 29, 2003, 9:28 pm
by Stalker Vacio
jackass

Posted: May 29, 2003, 9:31 pm
by noel
Netscape won't be missed by anyone.

Posted: May 29, 2003, 9:43 pm
by Deneve
+1 you jackass?

Posted: May 29, 2003, 9:45 pm
by Xouqoa
Yeah, netscape sucks anyway these days. Who cares. =)

Posted: May 29, 2003, 9:51 pm
by Canelek
Yay! No more testing my apps on that lameass browser!! yayayayyayay!

Posted: May 30, 2003, 4:28 am
by Maaurius
Netscape used to rock back in the day..... but last couple years it has sunk down to the level of programs like AOL as far as usefullness.

Posted: May 30, 2003, 8:05 am
by Aabidano
A browser isn't a viable product unless you have something decent to bundle it with. 4.07 was the last decent release.

IE continues to suck.

A company that I used to work for had our office in the same strip mall as Netscape, we fixed their servers and routers in exchange for coders time (neither of us had any money) :roll:

Posted: May 30, 2003, 9:06 am
by Lexien
Developers rejoice!

Posted: May 30, 2003, 10:41 am
by Deward
When I started my latest job in July 2001, one of the first things I made policy was not to support Netscape on the webpages I make. I wasted too much time trying to get asp to work properly on both platforms and I finally was able to just say enough is enough. If anyone calls complaining about not working with Netscape I just tell them to get IE and forget about it. Has made my life a lot easier.

Sad part is I was a die hard Netscape user until AOL bought them out. I dumped them pretty quick after that. I got sick of all of AOL's crap cdroms coming in the mail everday.

Deward

Posted: May 30, 2003, 10:49 am
by Canelek
Exactly, Netscape does not like ASP at all, not to mention many HTML and CSS elements. I spent more time trying to get shit to work with netscape than I did on development, sheesh. :P

Posted: May 30, 2003, 10:51 am
by Voronwë
Netscape was doomed when AOL bought it in the first place.

This deal w/ AOL and MS has no impact on the viability of Netscape, which AOL has never used with their proprietary software.

The analysis i've heard (on TV) is that this deal was essentially done because of Time Warner's media library.

If MS wants to be able to sell online media, they have to pay for those rights. So this is a step in that direction with AOL/TW obviously owning a large amount of media with Warner Bros, New Line, etc.

I was a diehard Netscape user for years, and i have even switched in the last couple of years. I dont even run it in Linux, i go w/ Mozilla.

Posted: May 30, 2003, 11:04 am
by Pubin
The good news for AOL users is that their internet browsing may actually work reliably in the near future. AOL has always used IE, but it was displayed within the cluttered aol browser. Conflicts between the two were the leading cause of AOL technical woes. I worked for AOL for a while in college and this problem accounted for approx. 80% of the total calls. Internet novices everywhere rejoice.

Posted: May 30, 2003, 11:18 am
by Kaelina
The CEO at my company still browses with Netscape 4.7... which means we have to test all our shit on it. Netscape can fucking die for all I care, I certainly won't miss it. =)

Posted: May 30, 2003, 1:26 pm
by Aabidano
ASP is evil, people who make the decision to use it should have a pineapple crammed up their pooper everyday before lunch.

Same with MS java, active scripting and all those other insecure MS concoctions that can be be done securely with standards that existed prior to the MS-centric implementation.

Posted: May 30, 2003, 1:46 pm
by Avestan
If AOL does this, I will love them. Does anyone else have to deal with their ridiculous cachies policies? We run a VERY dynamic site and aol users simply cannot use it well because of how they send people around the internet.

Posted: May 30, 2003, 1:46 pm
by Xouqoa
Aabidano wrote:ASP is evil, people who make the decision to use it should have a pineapple crammed up their pooper everyday before lunch.
Correct. Everyone knows Cold Fusion is far superior.

Posted: May 30, 2003, 2:45 pm
by Sylvus
ColdFusion makes the baby jesus cry. I liked ASP way better, back when I developed with those two. Now it's all java, baby.

Posted: May 30, 2003, 2:50 pm
by Xouqoa
Cold Fusion has come a long way. It's all Java based now. =)

Posted: May 30, 2003, 2:53 pm
by Sylvus
Interesting. I'm sure I'd still hate it. My main beef with it before was that, as a programmer, I felt it was way too dumbed down and I couldn't do enough actual programming with it. Give me a language based on C any day, not something that feels like a beefier html.

Posted: May 30, 2003, 2:58 pm
by Zamtuk
Netscape is still around?