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I dont watch it as it is a little too liberal for me, but theyjust signed a deal with Michael Savage (Whom I do like). Seems OOC for MSNBC.

MSNBC signs Michael Savage
Conservative host and author's TV show premiers in March
Feb. 12  Conservative talk radio phenomenon and best-selling author Michael Savage has been signed by MSNBC to host "The Savage Nation," a one-hour weekly issue-oriented opinion show set to air live on Saturday afternoons at 5:00 pm ET.
 
    THE FORMAT OF "The Savage Nation" will be based on Savage's number one rated afternoon drive time radio program, which is heard on over 300 stations, including New York's WABC and San Francisco's KSFO. The new show, which premieres on MSNBC in March, will originate from San Francisco. It will feature penetrating and provocative commentary and opinion from Savage, mirroring his #1 New York Times best selling book "The Savage Nation."
      "Michael Savage is brash, passionate and smart," said Sorenson. "His conservative point of view adds to the kaleidoscope of perspectives already heard on MSNBC  a place where a range of voices have their say, without any one dominating the channel itself. 'The Savage Nation' will anchor our Saturday afternoon program schedule and become destination television for those looking for compelling opinion and analysis with an edge."
      "I look forward to continuing on television what has made me so successful on radio," said Savage. "People love my show because of my hard hitting style combined with intelligence and wit. Those who listen to me say they hear a bit of Plato, Henry Miller, Jack Kerouac, Moses, Jesus, and Frankenstein. I'm looking forward to reaching new viewers while giving my existing audience more of what they have come to love and expect, including a look into my very private studio."
      An independent-minded individualist, Michael Savage fits no stereotype. He attacks big government and liberal media bias, but champions the environment and animal rights. Trained as a scientist, he holds Master's degrees in medical botany and medical anthropology and earned his Ph.D. from the University of California at Berkeley in Epidemiology and Nutrition Science. Along with the best selling book "The Savage Nation" and CD "Best of The Savage Nation," he is also the author of the book "Herbs That Heal" and 17 other books. His radio show airs nationally on the Talk Radio Network and attracts one of the most loyal listening audiences in radio.

That is pretty weird. I am a conservative and even I think Savage is riding the fence of stupidity/insanity. Guess msnbc will do anything for ratings, the way Fox is slamming them.

MSNBC is a totally desperate network. the only decent programming they have besides Hardball, is when they pull Meet the Press reruns over from the parent network. they have no overall guiding direction right now and tried to emulate FoxNews' strategy of branding themselves politically. In MSNBC's case they tried to brand themselves as a moderate alternative to the admittedly conservative Fox and CNN. anyway, like the entire network, that attempt on MSNBC's behalf has failed.

they should pull the plug, they are a joke.

and Michael Savage is not exactly going to give you any real insightful political commentary. if you think that the louder somebody shouts the more 'right' they are, then you will like this program.

Voronwe's comments are biased! He works for CNN!!!!

I think Voronwe's going to sell out and go to Bloomberg for a phat paying job!

hey they have the funniest afternoon duo in Cable News. the long haired liberal guy and the beret wearing freak.

i love those guys

Mort wrote:I dont watch it as it is a little too liberal for me, but theyjust signed a deal with Michael Savage (Whom I do like). Seems OOC for MSNBC.

what is it with conservatives and stupid fucking windbag assholes. savage, limbaugh, buchanan. you people watch these assholes? they would be working in a fucking mcdonalds in the south someplace if it wasn't for right wing politico talk shows. their opinions are 30 years old and mean less than shit to anyone with a fucking brain. bunch of fucking fat racist bags of crap that make millions of dollars talking about how much they hate clinton.

Conservatives can't appeal to logic, rationality, or respect for humanity, so instead their arguments rely on shouting louder and more obnoxiously than the next guy. This is why their spokespeople all tend to be, well, loud and obnoxious windbags.

Um, yeah.


Folks, they are entertainers. And they stopped being funny about six years ago.

Bill O'Riley is convervative. Those assholes are religious ultra-right wing convervative. When you mix that much fundamentalist dogma into politics, discussion is impossible.

When they left the SITUATION HIGH warnings up and all the news channels went to showing a dog get rescued off an ice cube one morning I stopped watching the news on tv period. Local news tv is ok, but in SF I dont like how they mislead you by making statements on commercials then reporting the matter on whole different view. But I do like watching Rudi Baktiar .

Also have you ever noticed how the Japanese or Spanish news will show whole clips of war scenes? Like on msnbc when we were in Afghanistan it showed a Taliban guerilla receiving fire, and thats it. But you watch the same thing on the Spanish channel and it shows that, then an American soldier getting AK return fire...

Newspapers don't have rating tactics.

Savage is a little to over the top for me.

masteen wrote:Bill O'Riley is convervative. Those assholes are religious ultra-right wing convervative. When you mix that much fundamentalist dogma into politics, discussion is impossible.

Wrong, O'Riley is an independant, and besides that he rocks. Left Wingers have guys that are just as loud, they just have no direction other than to disagree with anything a Republican president does and says. That gets pretty old pretty freaking fast, which is why most likely Republicans will be in the white house again next election. Shout away left wingers! Oh, and call me names too, that always looks cool.

Krimson Klaw wrote: Wrong, O'Riley is an independant,

independent of what? o'reilly is a conservative. conservatism isn't an affiliation.

Left Wingers have guys that are just as loud,

bullshit.

they just have no direction other than to disagree with anything a Republican president does and says.

WOW THATS SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN YOUR AVERAGE CONSERVATIVE WINDBAG. these fuckwads made millions of loudly and obnoxiously commenting on everything clinton ever did in and out of office, and you idiots lapped it up like stale dogwater and panted for more.

That gets pretty old pretty freaking fast, which is why most likely Republicans will be in the white house again next election. Shout away left wingers! Oh, and call me names too, that always looks cool.

rebuplicans != conservatives

and they will win the next election because the democrats can't field anyone who will promise to blow up muslims on CNN.

So that must mean most americans agree with how things are going, thanks for posting. O'Riley does say he is not a conservative, weekly he does stress this, but your opinion of his party affiliation matter more than his own, so we carry on right? Jeez you lose again, but start your tirade anyway, we love the show....left wingers have no wind-bags, rofl you are so funny sometimes!

conservative isn't a fucking party or an affiliation. do you want me to repeat myself again?

name one left wing politico with even half the big mouth of an o'reilly or a coulter or a limbaugh. the closest I can think of is noam chomsky.

You have 3 times the mouth of a Limbaugh or Savage. Maybe there are no big name loudmouths, but your typical liberal is non-stop whining for 4 straight years when a republican takes office. Shut the fuck up and learn to punch the right fucking names.

kyoukan type-R wrote:conservative isn't a fucking party or an affiliation. do you want me to repeat myself again?

name one left wing politico with even half the big mouth of an o'reilly or a coulter or a limbaugh. the closest I can think of is noam chomsky.

Conservative is a focus of the Republican party, jeez you cannot be this slow. As far as no left wingers (oops, left wing is not a party affiliation) with no big mouths, one word, Al Freaking Sharpton...lol are you kidding me?

Please continue to post rediculous statements like those I quoted above, I love making you look like you are proxied out from google.

Maybe if the left wing had more talking points than bush slamming, they could get a successful radio or talk show, now there is an idea!

conservative is not a focus of the Republican party.

conservative is an end of a 2 dimensional political spectrum, at the opposite end of liberal.

for whatever reason the US Political landscape has evolved so that for the most part the Republican party is on the right side of that continuum, and the Deomocrats are on the left side.

that being said, one can be conservative and Libertarian.

one can be liberal and in the Green party.

hell one can be liberal and be in the American Socialist Party...a party way more liberal than the Democratic party.

Pat Buchanen ran as a Reform candidate a couple of years ago. He is conservative as hell.

Bill O'Reilly is a conservative. If you don't recognize that, you simply don't understand what the word means. That does not mean he is a Republican, though I haven't ever heard him really disagree that much with much that they do.

Part of O'Reilly's branding of himself is that he is a political outsider. His "no spin zone' thing is kind of a "let's cut this political bullshit and talk to the normal man". So that populist approach has been very effective for him, and I wouldnt be surprised if he does throw some critique the way of the White House from time to time. He certainly isn't one of these GOP sycophants like Limbaugh who would cheer anything the Republican party did as long as his advertisers kept ponying up.

That being said, I don't think O'Reilly is even handed in the manner in which he is likely to criticize something the Republicans do verses the Democrats. What i mean is if Clinton did something he'd be more likely to harp on it longer than if Bush did something (both somethigns being equal). But that is what his viewership tunes in for, and that is what they get. The show doesn't promise to be anything it is not, and though i can't stand the guy, the television show is certainly a better television show than what CNN offers in the same time slot.

His political bias is plainly worn on his sleeve (which is fine he is a commentator). If you cannot see that, i'm really not sure what to tell you.

I agree with most of what you said, conservatives are to the right, and most conservatives are republicans (most). It has it's roots in a strong Christian belief, so this again is one way you can be a sonservative and not a Republican or vise versa. But I said MOST conservatives were Republicans. However, O'Riley is not a conservative, even he says this, if you do not agree I do not know what to tell you

whether or not he admits to being conservative, he is one.

his political views are conservative.

if he is moderate than you would expect that he has some political opinions that are conservative, and on other issues he has positions that are liberal.

i dont watch the show much, but i've never heard him voice an opinion that would fall on the liberal side of the fence.

Kooky has some good points here, but I refuse to admit I agree with her till I have consumed a huge amount of alcohol first...)

If given a choice of voting republican or democrat I would always go republican simply because I am a self employed person looking for some kind of relief to the huge penalties placed on us (taxation) for being self made.

Democrats believe in governmental control on everything from health insurance, income, taxation, let the rich pay for everything, be poor be American, and I will not and cannot believe in a system that promotes dronelike behavior and kills all spirit of motivation to do well. Republicans believe in small business driving the economy, incentives for tax relief to motivate businesses to hire and expand thus providing new capital to flow into the marketplace stimulating growth.

2 Things I believe to be fundamentally sound in stimulating our economy and eliminating the budget deficit are :
1. A National across the board 15% sales tax, eliminating the IRS totally.
2. Eliminating the Capital Gains taxation thus inviting the wealthy to reinvest in our economy would stimulate the overall growth and eliminate inflation.

It takes money to stimulate any nations economic well being and doing those 2 things would go along way to getting our economy moving forward and not in reverse. Hell we would save billions not having the IRS and collect the same amount of taxes from everyone living in the United States. I also believe we should take care of our own people instead of giving trillions away to foreign support. Let's feed our own hungry, and house our own homeless people for a change.

I must now go tie one on for I found myself thinking Kooky makes sense here. omg this cannot be happening..)

To not be too far off topic here, I consider people like Limbaugh, Fallwell, and many alike commentators to be egotistical windbags, making a living off those stupid enough to believe what spews out of their mouths. Rather be watching Barney...)

i know it is just a post on a messageboard, and I am just as guilty of oversimplifying things.


but can you really say that Republicans are different than democrats in big government? the only thing that is different is which things the Big Govt does.

with a national 15% sales tax, trying to float president bush's budget would be the biggest financial joke in the history of history.

I can Voronwe and will say just that. To simplify platforms Democrats believe in people relying on government for everything. Why ? More power to politicians. Republicans also are powerhungry as all politicians are, but they do support business growth. No president in the history of the united States did more for the country then Ronald Reagan. He promoted healthy business competition lifting embargos so companies could compete therefore lowering the costs on items such as gasoline. He also promoted small business development which vastly is responsible for the most job opportunities in the states over big businesses.

They have kept that in their platform and therefore kept my vote. The less gvmt control the better. Not a staunch Bush supporter but as Kooky pointed out what democrat had enough flare to beat him.

You eliminate the IRS, you pay 15% on everything you buy no matter who you are and I guarantee you even a budget like Bush's would have more of a chance being funded then with the system we use now.

[edit] Remember at the highest levels the upper income people are paying 55% of every dollar they make to the government in the form of state and IRS taxation. Thats why you find tax loopholes for the rich created by the rich. A national sales tax removes all tax loopholes and also generates a huge surplus of cash to invest and reinvest. Instead of making the rich create offshore accounts where their loophole dollars flow now. It has a dominoe effect here all for the good.

Krimson Klaw wrote:Conservative is a focus of the Republican party, jeez you cannot be this slow.

maybe 50 years ago. bush jr. and the republican congress is now responsible for the largest budget increase, largest spending, biggest and most bloated government in US history. They are a conservative's nightmare.

conservatism is an ideal long ago abanoned by the GOP in favor of massive government, huge defecits, enourmous spending, less freedoms, more government powers and intervention etc.

both main parties in the US are such mass appeal, vote grabbing whores for special interest groups and their media persona that neither really stand for anything that is much different from each other. that is where the term republicrat came from.

and if al sharpton is the best comparison you can come up with next to limbaugh and savage and buchanan then I imagine this discussion is over.

Well, I know he's not popular around here.. and I dont take everything he says to heart, but I cant help loving his style of bashing liberals.

His shows debut's tomorrow at 5pm est and Im hoping he does well. Slam me all you want.

Krimson Klaw wrote:So that must mean most americans agree with how things are going,

They won't be once they're laid off from their jobs, paying $3 for a gallon of gas, and not receiving health care coverage. But in typical Republican fashion, I expect Bush to pin the blame on Bill Clinton. It's easier to cover your own ass than to actually get off it and do something.

kyoukan type-R wrote: and if al sharpton is the best comparison you can come up with next to limbaugh and savage and buchanan then I imagine this discussion is over.

Wow, Al Sharpton is not as bad as rush et al? Funny thing is you are totally serious, rofl. Sharpton for PRES, KYOUKAN FOR VP, OH YEA!

yes that's what I said I want him to be president.

hopefully one day you will get hit really hard on the head and realize that strawman arguments, word twisting and subject changing are horrible ways to conduct an argument even if you are losing at it horrificaly.

kyoukan type-R wrote:yes that's what I said I want him to be president.

hopefully one day you will get hit really hard on the head and realize that strawman arguments, word twisting and subject changing are horrible ways to conduct an argument even if you are losing at it horrificaly.

Or I could lose arguments like you do <insert caps, swear words, and totally moronic statements>. yea, I like that idea. Thanks Kyoukan!