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Is one of the worst musicians I have listened to in the past 10 years. I think it is a slap in the face to more deserving people that she won so many awards this year, but that award show is a fucking joke anyhow - the fact that kanye west was even invited to the show, let alone nominated for anything, and then won an award over 4 other cd's that were leagues better than he will ever be in his miserable life speaks volumes.

Anyone care to explain to me what exactly it is that you like about this crack whore? I seriously want to know because I just can't see it.

P.S. I was ESTATIC that they did not let her into the country for the award show, I think I actually took a shot in honor of her not being allowed here.

P.P.S. I was reading the "hit random" thread and saw a song of hers in someones list and had to ask this, but I didn't want to bastardize that thread.
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She's got a good sound (reminds me of Motown), and a lot of people can appreciate good music, even if the person behind the music isn't the most upstanding.
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^ what he said. Substance abuse or not, talent is there. I don't particularly care for her myself, but I'll listen to Rehab if it plays on the radio. I feel the same way about the Lily Allen.
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She's one of the best female vocalists to come out in the past 20 years. She's a fucked up crack-bitch. She's got a fantastic sound and feeling that you can't fake. She's absolutely ridiculously pathetically unable to take care of herself.
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What Drolgin said.
You don't have to like the person to appreciate the talent. And not seeing the talent, combined with being "ecstatic" that the "bitch" wasn't allowed in, suggests you don't really know what you're on about.
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I don't at all, I think the little influx of the retro 40s or 50s era type stuff that rehab reminds me of, and that christina aguiwhatevera tried to do is plain annoying. I don't like her at all, both as an individual and her music, independent of each other. I can't possibly see how a song where 85% of the lyrics are "tried to make me go to rehab I said no, no, no" can be called a good song, lol.. there are rap songs from the past 5 years with more substance.
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Funkmasterr wrote:I don't at all, I think the little influx of the retro 40s or 50s era type stuff that rehab reminds me of, and that christina aguiwhatevera tried to do is plain annoying. I don't like her at all, both as an individual and her music, independent of each other. I can't possibly see how a song where 85% of the lyrics are "tried to make me go to rehab I said no, no, no" can be called a good song, lol.. there are rap songs from the past 5 years with more substance.
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Anyone that listens to rap has no right to judge the music taste of others.
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Fairweather Pure wrote:Anyone that listens to any type of music has no right to judge the music taste of others.
Fixed

Also, his question was WHAT others liked about her. I see only two people that actually answered the question.
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And I was not judging.. I just want to know what it is people see in her, because to me it sounds like uninspired, vocally lacking garbage.
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While I can certainly appreciate you not digging her music, that's your prerogative, but to call her "vocally lacking" makes it sound like you have no idea what you're talking about. She's a popular, grammy-winning artist solely because of her vocal talents and in spite of her drug-addled nincompoopery.
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Sylvus wrote:While I can certainly appreciate you not digging her music, that's your prerogative, but to call her "vocally lacking" makes it sound like you have no idea what you're talking about. She's a popular, grammy-winning artist solely because of her vocal talents and in spite of her drug-addled nincompoopery.
And while I can kind of see where you are coming from, I will say that nowadays the Grammy's have zero credibility and usually there are an abundance of people more deserving of the award than the person that won. This is reinforced by Kanye West winning an award over Jay Z, Nas and Common (TI was nominated too, and he also has no place amongst the other candidates.) I can't remember who Winehouse was up against but I do remember immediately wondering how she won against them, and it's not even my type of music.
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For Record of the Year she beat out the Foo Fighters (The Pretender), Beyonce (Irreplaceable), Rihanna (Umbrella), and Justin Timberlake (What Goes Around...Comes Around).

Here's the entire list of winners:

http://www.grammy.com/GRAMMY_Awards/Annual_Show/
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Well yes if that was the shortlist she deserved to win and also that the grammys have zero credibility.
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Personally, I think I've only heard one song of her's once. I didn't form an opinion based on that simply because I wasn't actively listening.

However, to say that the Grammy's has zero credibility because you didn't agree with who won and/or was nominated strikes me as a very odd thing to say. The Grammy's are the ONLY music awards that are decided by music professionals (afaik). Artists, producers, etc. are the only people that have any say in the nominations and winners. If anything, it's the ONLY award show (for music) that has any credibility. I totally understand that you don't agree with all of the winners/nominees (I don't either), but to say that it's credibility is destroyed because you don't agree is pretty absurd.

My point above was that people like different things when it comes to music (and art, etc.), and that neither is right/wrong, better/worse, etc. as a result.
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I think she's got a great voice, what she sings stinks (IMO) but that doesn't mean she doesn't have a great voice. Most of the backing music is pretty good too, don't know how much of it she writes.
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From the grammy link
Rehab
Amy Winehouse, songwriter (Amy Winehouse)
Personally I think that the grammy's are to inbread with in the industry. But at least it is industry folks voting and nominating. Not just pure sales ftw. But like the oscars, I doubt if most voters have heard/seen the product being concidered. ( although perhaps it's catagorized for voting)

They lost most all credabilty with me since 1974 when Olivia Newton John beat out Joni Mitchell.

But none the less, for her to win over some industry big names and profit centers means something. It may be just politics compaired to goodness but I might snarf the record and give it at least one listen.

Some time on a slow work day, I will make and post a "bands I've seen" list.
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One of her songs was picked for the commercials for AMC's Mad Men. It's the only song I've heard and I love it.
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I think she's quite talented.
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Knarlz wrote:From the grammy link
Rehab
Amy Winehouse, songwriter (Amy Winehouse)
Personally I think that the grammy's are to inbread with in the industry. But at least it is industry folks voting and nominating. Not just pure sales ftw. But like the oscars, I doubt if most voters have heard/seen the product being concidered. ( although perhaps it's catagorized for voting)

They lost most all credabilty with me since 1974 when Olivia Newton John beat out Joni Mitchell.

But none the less, for her to win over some industry big names and profit centers means something. It may be just politics compaired to goodness but I might snarf the record and give it at least one listen.

Some time on a slow work day, I will make and post a "bands I've seen" list.
I'm impressed that she wrote that song on her own! There are like 8 different words.

I don't know, I guess it will just remain a mystery to me.

I completely agree with what you said about them being inbred to the industry.. My example of why I feel that way would be the year Chris Rock hosted the MTV movie awards, he made some joke about Jude Law being a bad actor (which he is, he is a terrible untalented arrogant pretty boy) but he said it jokingly, and made a joke about himself like 3 seconds later.. Later in the show Sean "I'm a douchebag" Penn made some whiney comment about how disrespectful it was and how respected Jude Law is in the industry...

Most of them have ridiculous egos, so having actors/directors/etc have any say in things to me is bound to end up in retardation.
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Funkmasterr wrote:And I was not judging.. I just want to know what it is people see in her, because to me it sounds like uninspired, vocally lacking garbage.
That's like saying, "I'm not judging but you're an asshole."

As far as Amy Winehouse, I'm not sure what I see in most popular music today. The only redeeming quality about it is that it's not popular for very long. Remember, Milli Vanilli won a Grammy. :roll:
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Xyphir wrote: Remember, Milli Vanilli won a Grammy. :roll:
And he will alway be Winnow's favorite artist.
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They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

I'd rather be at home with ray
I ain't got seventy days
Cause there's nothing
There's nothing you can teach me
That I can't learn from Mr Hathaway

I didn't get a lot in class
But I know it don't come in a shot glass

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

The man said 'why do you think you here'
I said 'I got no idea
I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my baby
so I always keep a bottle near'
He said 'I just think your depressed,
this me, yeah baby, and the rest'

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know

I don't ever wanna drink again
I just ooh I just need a friend
I'm not gonna spend ten weeks
have everyone think I'm on the mend

It's not just my pride
It's just 'til these tears have dried

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go
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Xyphir wrote: Remember, Milli Vanilli won a Grammy. :roll:
They had it for like 2 or 3 days.
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Knarlz wrote:But like the oscars, I doubt if most voters have heard/seen the product being concidered. ( although perhaps it's catagorized for voting)
I don't know if the voters actually listen to it...but I do know that a disc (or discs) are provided to voters to listen to the final nominees for final voting. Just clarifying.
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miir wrote:They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

I'd rather be at home with ray
I ain't got seventy days
Cause there's nothing
There's nothing you can teach me
That I can't learn from Mr Hathaway

I didn't get a lot in class
But I know it don't come in a shot glass

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go

The man said 'why do you think you here'
I said 'I got no idea
I'm gonna, I'm gonna lose my baby
so I always keep a bottle near'
He said 'I just think your depressed,
this me, yeah baby, and the rest'

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know

I don't ever wanna drink again
I just ooh I just need a friend
I'm not gonna spend ten weeks
have everyone think I'm on the mend

It's not just my pride
It's just 'til these tears have dried

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said 'no, no, no'
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know know know
I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine
He's tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go go go
I bet if anyone here spent a couple weeks hard work on it they could come up with better lyrics for a song.
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I think Funk proved in that other music thread that he knows shit about music and what talent actually entails.
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Funkmasterr wrote:I bet if anyone here spent a couple weeks hard work on it they could come up with better lyrics for a song.
So why don't you, mister backseat-driver monday-morning-quarterback?

Most of your posts in this forum consist of shitting on the musical tastes of others, which is pretty fucking annoying. What's that old saying...it's right on the tip of my tongue...

Oh yeah: Put up or shut the fuck up.
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Funkmasterr wrote:I bet if anyone here spent a couple weeks hard work on it they could come up with better lyrics for a song.
Go ahead!!
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Just roll over and let him dictate your musical tastes people. Artists only have talent if Funkmasterr says so. They only have good sounding voices and good lyrics if he says so. Artists on drugs aren't worth listening to unless they're rappers. Cause we know rappers don't use drugs.

Seriously tho, I lost all interest in the grammy's when Metallica lost to Jethro Tull in the best hard rock category which was brand new that year. That was like a slap in the face.

I don't want to be judgemental, but fuck rap yo.
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Drolgin Steingrinder wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:I bet if anyone here spent a couple weeks hard work on it they could come up with better lyrics for a song.
So why don't you, mister backseat-driver monday-morning-quarterback?

Most of your posts in this forum consist of shitting on the musical tastes of others, which is pretty fucking annoying. What's that old saying...it's right on the tip of my tongue...

Oh yeah: Put up or shut the fuck up.
First we need to establish whether or not you think that those are creative, inspiring, original song lyrics. If you do I will just have the understanding within myself to never take you seriously, ever, no matter what you are talking about.

And if we get past that point, we can move on to you explaining to me why this forum is different from anywhere else? Whenever I am bothered by one of you motherfuckers running your mouth I'm told to deal with it because "it's VV", but I'm supposed to give a fuck if you are offended that I voice my opinion on something you listen to being total garbage?

And it's laughable that you think every post I make here is of that nature. 1 - because that is false, and 2- because everyone (besides maybe zamtuk, slyvus, and boog that I can think of) that responds to anything I post that I like in this forum is to "shit on my musical tastes." So I guess I'm supposed to have a courtesy for other people that they don't have for me? Makes sense in a hypocritical VV bullshit kind of way.

Not to mention I asked for people to explain to me what they like about her, not whine like a little bitch buddy. And since people are already spinning my words, I'll clarify - I don't dislike her music because she is a crack whore - I dislike her as a person because she is a crack whore. And not because of drugs in general, because it's crack, and I have no respect for crack heads..

Anyway, it's a flavor of the week. By next year I won't have to be disappointed to see her beat someone she shouldn't beat.
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The Game - Church For Thugs Lyrics

[Verse 1]
To all my niggas on the porch getting their hair braided
Corn rolled by a L.A. bitch
And I can't forget
My niggas riding the train Yankee fitted
Thermals under that Pelle shit
I love New York but gangbanging that's L.A. shit
And I'm proud of it
Spit it through the wire so the crowd love it
Haters you know who you are you can turn it down fuck it
I can shoot a video to it and spend half the budget
I'm gangsta, let the .40 cal blow in public
More hatred inside my soul than Pac had for Delores Tucker
Every time one of my niggas get shot the more I suffer
Cause we trapped inside a world where your forced to die for your colors
I seen it all through the Range tints
Got niggas doing life in the state pen
So I dread like Jamaicans
If I die for one of my statements
Than break up the streets of Compton and spill my blood in the pavement

[Hook]
Laitly niggas keep sayin they gon heat me up
Talking that shit like they goin lay me down
And then I come through strapped to see what's up
Niggas really don't want no parts of me pal

Niggas keep sayin they gon heat me up
Talking that shit like they goin lay me down
And then I come through strapped to see what's up
Niggas really don't know parts of me pal

[Verse 2]
Who I gotta talk to who I gotta write
Get my reebok deal done
Or i'm stearin at air nik's
Aiight, I handle bars you ain't gotta ride a bike
To peep game and his skill here go some training wheels
Let's roll
Through the city of god
Where niggas train to kill
we'll Chop you up hundred times worse than the Haitians will
For real naw Pharrell I need a track homie
Dre we to close aint no turning back homie
Deal with it I'm a be here for ten years
Spittin like the ghost of Eric Wright and Big yeah
Let me paint this picture
While you sit here thinking in the back of your mind this is the shit yeah
I spit for you niggas doing 25 on they 5th year ready to throw a nigga off the 5th tier
Them white boys in the Abercrombie and Fitch gear
And every nigga who ever helped me get here

[Hook]
Laitly niggas keep sayin they gon heat me up
Talking that shit like they gon lay me down
And when I come through strapped to see what's up
Niggas really don't want no parts of me pal

Niggas keep sayin they gon heat me up
Talking that shit like they gon lay me down
And when I come through strapped to see what's up
Niggas really don't know parts of me pal

[Verse 3]
It goes
One brick, two brick
The boy moving weight
Now three bricks, four bricks
I'm driving upstate
Five Bricks, six bricks
The nigga got cake
Not rap money, but money been rap since ‘88
Look at the world we live in
Niggas steady hate, to the heckler at Koch
Leave him chopped up like freddy's face
Niggas catching feelings
Cause I'm about millions
And outta all the newcomers out, my flow's the illest
You a close second nigga,
A banana to a guerilla
Put us in the same cage and I'ma have to peel ‘em
The best of both worlds
Rapping and drug dealing
Run and tell the chief I came to burn down the village
The head haunt show, staring out the third story window
Of my Beverly Hills condo
With two long ass heats
I call ‘em Shaq and Alonzo
You niggas want me outta L.A.
Yeah I know

[Hook]
Laitly niggas keep sayin' they gon' heat me up
Talking that shit like they gon' lay me down
And when I come through strapped to see what's up
Niggas really don't want no parts of me pal

Niggas keep sayin' they gon' heat me up
Talking that shit like they gon' lay me down
And when I come through strapped to see what's up
Niggas really don't know parts of me pal
Isn't the Game one of your favorite rappers?

If so, please refer to above. Frankly it could have been almost any of his songs, but I found this one particularly useless. Please refrain from making fun of anyone's lyrics.
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Re: Amy Winehouse

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One of my favorite, no. Secondly, if you are going to judge someone by their lyrics, how about you do it by one of their more popular songs (which you wouldn't even know, because you have most likely never heard a single song of his in your life) you know, like Amy Winehouse's most popular song which I cited and miir posted the lyrics too.

Secondly, I hold rap to different standards than other kinds of music.. Rap has the beat to fall back on, Amy Winehouse has her lyrics, and thats it..

Edit: Seriously, what were you trying to prove? To me, you just made yourself look retarded.

Do yourself a favor, if you want to hear exactly how much more talented the game is then the whore in question, listen to his 15 minute long freestyle song called "300 Bars".. That takes far more talent than Amy Crackhouse could ever, ever, ever hope to posses.
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Look I love great lyrics too.

A great written lyric can transport you, move you etc...

One of my favorite examples of this is the 10,000 Maniacs song. The Big Parade.
Detroit to D.C.
night train, Capitol, parts East.
Lone young man takes a seat.
And by the rhythm of the rails,
reading all his mother's mail
from a city boy in a jungle town
postmarked Saigon.

He'll go live his mother's dream,
join the slowest parade he'll ever see.
Her weight of sorrows
carried long and carried far.
"Take these, Tommy, to The Wall."


Metro line to the Mall site
with a tour of Japanese.
He's wandering and lost until a vet in worn fatigues
takes him down to where they belong.

Near a soldier,
an ex-Marine
with a tattooed dagger and eagle trembling,
he bites his lip beside a widow breaking down.
She takes her Purple Heart,
makes a fist,
strikes The Wall.

All come to live a dream,
to join the slowest parade
they'll ever see.
Their weight of sorrows carried long and carried far,
taken to The Wall.

It's 40 paces to the year that he was slain.
His hand's slipping down TheWall
for it's slick with rain.
How would life have ever been the same
if this wall had carved in it one less name?
But for Christ's sake, he's been dead
over 20 years.
He leaves the letters asking,
"Who caused my mother's tears,
was it Washington
or the Viet Cong?"

Slow
deliberate
steps are involved.
He takes them away
from the black granite wall
toward the other monuments so white and clean.
O, Potomac, what you've seen.
Abraham had his war too,
but an honest war.
Or so it's taught in school
you can literally see the rugged former soldiers crying, the widow hitting the wall the slow procession as people search for the name they don't want to see.

BUT

as you said with rap. All music does not have to have great lyrics. Why is Amy Winehouse held to a higher standard for you then rap? Some people think rap beats are crap and that Amy's 60's vibe is great. I do know the Game, I know his music and he is an above average rapper. I like the genre and even in rap you can have amazing lyrics. De La Soul - Millie Pulled A Pistol On Santa Claus - comes to mind.

I think my point is that you come into every arguement thinking you have the only valid thought process and you clearly do not. You are stating your opinion, which you are entitled too, but it is no more valid or less valid the Sueven's.

Would you like me to point to the Game song where he tells everyone he is a thugged out gangster selling drugs, or the song where he is drug dealing bad ass working the streets? It would not matter because according to you rap gets a free pass anyway.
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This song?
My mama took me to Sam Goody's
I wanted to buy a 50 Cent CD
I took that shit home
That shit was wack like a motherfucker
Don't fuck with Game

I like 50 Cent
He reminds me Spongebob
And Tony Yayo is Blues Clues
And Lloyd Banks is Dora the Explorer
They're my friends
Psyche

I went down one of them Bodaga shits right there in Harlem
Got me a bootleg Lloyd Banks and Young Buck CD
Took that shit home, put it in my boom box
Thought I was bout to be on some radio Raheim shit
Man that shit sound like some Vanessa Williams '88
I mean Olivia cute but they say that bitch a man
So this Black Wallstreet for life now
GGG-UNOT!

[The Game]
300 Bars and Runnin
Just loan me your ears for 15 minutes
Walk with me

Here the breakdown, pass the doja, .45 in the holster
Hollow tips'll fold 'em, them niggaz they toy soldiers
Oh, that boy colder than Hova unless he sober
Like I'm the president, but this ain't the takeover
Now, there's the speaker, bring your ears a little closer
Before you call this a diss, and you make Hova pissed
Why would I wanna do that? When I'm just the new cat
That was taught if a nigga take shots to shoot back
Defending his yard, yeah standing his ground
I'm saying if you gonna retire, then hand me the crown
Nah, let Bleek do it, then throw him a concert in Madison square
Watch everybody sleep through it
We can go bar for bar, I'll let the lines speak to 'em
What they say? Bleek is over let Chris and Neef do it
They say the wrong thing, I'ma smack 'em silly
What you thought? Them was the only niggaz that rapped in Philly?
See them niggaz with the soonies leave you wrapped in Philly
Then dash in groups like Beanie Mac in Philly
?? said Curtis Jack in Philly
Make a U-turn, I gotta go back to Philly
I forgot my cheese stake, that's what I told the cops
So they wouldn't get the dogs start searching for the glock
And I can't forget, B.I.G. got murdered by the cops
Even I was Ready To Die, when I heard that he was shot
What's beef? Beef is when I murk you on the spot
Labels signing many things, still searching for they Pac
I put purple on the block
So I don't feel threatened when Ludacris say he coming for the #1 spot
Ask 50, it get lonely on top
You can hate me or love me, but now the cops the only homies he got
When it's beef we eat, we win, but we ain't lonely we pop
You sell records but a GGG-u not!
Acting big on the radio, to me you not
You can ask Mr. CCC who hot
Tony Yayo I bet 10 G's you flop
Run up on that new 300 C you got
Stop hoping I fall, hope the bleeding stop
And I hope you black out before you see the cops
I ain't hot top for colors, I'm from Cedar Block
So I got my hot tops that make your breathing stop
I'm a gangsta slash rapper, check your CD shop
I'm like Elvis in there, they can't believe you dropped
Now I'm moving on up to George and Weezy's spot
I picked up where my homeboy Eazy stopped
I saw the west coast, put the shit on my back
Sprayed Aftermath on it, then loosened the strap
It get hot in here, let Lucifer rap
Bring hell to niggaz when Dre producing a track
Take it to the streets, put the duece duece to your hat
Then call up the pigs, tell them the rooster's back
Call Jadakiss, tell him that duke is back
I'm still by your side, no matter who comes strapped
Fuck Lloyd Banks, it ain't about who can rap
It's about when the ?? clap, is rufus back
I see what you thinkin, you want me to die, is that so?
Now you left leaning back, thanks to Fat Joe
We got reservations in heaven, you ready? Let's go
Drop them off, then the sound like Esko
I'm a say ?? if me and Dre talk
All Nas said back was he had a ??
Now that's the eulogy, beef is kinda foolish see
Niggaz running their mouth about what the fuck they gon' do to me
But quit the yapping before I proceed to clapping
And you gon' see the captain with plans of getting me captured
Even behind bars, I'm still gon' shine
I'm 10 years younger than Yayo, I get out, I'm fine
Then I go right back, nigga I pop mines
How you gon' drop Olivia, you only drop dimes
I knew you changed, when you started sleeping in that vest dog
I don't need 50 Cent, my niggaz make collect calls
1-800-split a faggot nigga wig
He got G-Unit wings, throw them off the Queens Bridge
Now your career is over, career is over
We in QB, banging CNN in the rover
T-O-N-Y, that's the phony NORE
You ain't the talk of New York, your sixteens is boring
Take that shit off ??, go back to PC
And tell 50 Cent you want a copy of Beef 3
I'm airing their ass out on DVD
You wanna rhyme like Lloyd Banks repeat after me
I'm a G-Unit toy soldier
On Sesame street doing voice overs
Bitch ass nigga need a rhyme dictionary, to rehearse his lines
Sound like Oscar the Grouch, with them nursery rhymes
We was in the studio, when I first got signed
He got stuck, he called 50 tryna borrow some lines
That's the wrong nigga, when you need help with your rhymes
All he gon' tell you is say G-Unit one more time
Got mad cuz I ain't wanna make your beef mine
You got lucky with Ja, why you ain't go at Shyne?
He freestyled from the pen, that's just the fact
Said he'd put you with your mom, and you ain't fucked with that
Then you lied about your pops, he ain't never bust no cap
Like Father, Like Son, go ask Busta that
I knew from the beginning I couldn't trust those cats
I'd kill 'em all, if I could bring Justo back
The underground is mine, I treat it like home
It's the reason niggaz saying my name like Mike Jones
The underground is mine, I treat it like home
It's the reason niggaz saying my name like Mike Jones
The underground is mine, I treat it like home
It's the reason niggaz saying my name like Mike Jones
I said
The underground is mine, I treat it like home
It's the reason niggaz saying my name like Mike Jones
And I'm far from Houston but you can chop it and screw it
Do whatever to it, but it in the store the shit moving
Gave 'em a hundred bars, they ain't think I could do it
Came with two hundred, nigga this is more than music
Even Dre knew it, that boy hot like summer
Both ?? in the dirt, 300 Bars and Runnin
And I beef with any nigga, say my name motherfuck I'm gunnin'
You can put it on skee if you want it
I'll air you out on Drama King, Mike, or Clue
And watch them shits sell out like a Air Jordon shoe
I told Funk Flex when I catch the nigga Whoo Kid
We gon' see if he know how to DJ with bruised ribs
Don't hit me on the sidekick asking what you did
Get a gun or ask 50's police to use his
Cuz Bloods gonna get ya
Bloods, Bloods gonna get ya for that Shadyville chain
That 380 spill brains, when I pop shots
Outside NY, in front of hip-hop cops
Or broad day in L.A., I'ma tell Em and Dre
This nigga bootlegging my music, ain't nothing for him to say
Took me off my own songs, then put it on his tapes
So I'ma take him out his house, put the beam on his face
Drop him off at Terror Squad, let him scream for the jakes
Cuz when you fucking with Jayceon, you can bleed in the lake
For caking off niggaz on them CD's and tapes
Ask them to scratch a record, you will see he fake
If 50 was Puffy, you'd run and go get him a cheese cake
Take the DJ off your name, Mr. Instant replay
Not the instant replay
I mean the machine that G-Unit use every time 50 on stage singing like
Bitches only for your shit just a lil bit
Niggaz only for your shit just a lil bit
On my album 50 helped me just a lil bit
Only on two songs, now back to some killer shit
My clips bananas, I kill a gorilla quick
Beating on your chest, I see to your death, yep
Tell Ecko to make him a suit
Tell Reebock to make him some boots
Get him a head band, to cover the holes in his head
He a dead man for thinking he can walk through muddy waters like Redman
Banks blacked out and let the gun blam without a M-E-T-H-O-D Man
So the lieutenant gotta ask for his strings
Take my advice, never wear air max for the ??
Unless you one of the Bloods, or a latin king
Cuz if your left with the Aryans your ass will sting
And your cell mate is a 25 to lifer
They will stab you then ?? then fuck you on Rikers
And Life Goes On
Now back to the coward of the hour who lied and said he write my songs
He told Vibe Dre was gonna leave me on the shelf
So he gave me all his hits, you should've kept them for yourself
Nigga stop acting tough before I stand over you
Show you how The Documentary live on top of The Massacre
Make a move I'm blasting your ass to the last one
Ten shots from the Mack empty the rest in the passenger
Fase yelling thats enough, let the coroner bag him up
Throw in Makaveli and lift the doors on the Maganum
Gun smoking, Fase think I'm locin' backing up
Reverse the '05 hurse on 41st and traffic, what
Hip-Hop cops on my left, but I pass 'em up
The Dodge got a hemmy in it, Game got a Remy in 'em
In and out of lanes like a New York cab
I'm Mr. Ol' King, that New York cab
Who's this fake nigga, on pictures with the Jake nigga?
Got his crew starving cuz he ain't the whole cake, nigga
He ain't Nas, ain't B.I.G., ain't Jigga
If he ain't Cube or Pac then who you got?
We getting tired of you talkin about who you shot
I'll use another six bars to tell you who you not
You ain't 50 Cent, he went out like a gangsta
You went out with Vivica, three months after wanksta
Get Rich or Die Tryin, we thought you was hot
Now the same nigga wanna take us to the Candy Shop
C'mon man, what happened to the thug?
Now you could find in the club, him and Lloyd Banks hugging
Nigga got mad when The Game start buzzing
So fuck making friends now I'm into throwing slugs
Olivia talking about we a family, Game had to go
Nigga I'll smack that ho like I'm Jackie-O
Cuz I don't wanna be cool, I don't wanna be you
I don't wanna shake hands, or wear your G-Unit shoes
Don't want you on my hooks, don't wanna be in your group
Just wanna sit here and wait
To be gone, so I can head back to the block
Fresh white Nike airs and the matching socks fitted

Pull the brim low, if they don't get it
Bentley Coup on gold daytons, I was the first one with it
Four times platinum, I done been there and did it
Came in the game and shitted, then wiped my ass with it
They say the Lord givth, if Lord take it away
So I build a house on top of Hip-Hop, I'll wait for the day
Niggaz hating on me, they don't want Jayceon to play
And the DA waiting on Jayceon to make a mistake
So they can put me in the SWAT car and lock me away
Give me a odd job in the pen for minimum pay
Let me out so I can drive down criminal way
Pushing the rock, nah this ain't no subliminal Jay
The summer too hot, and I want the winter to stay
Cuz I'm a cold nigga when I put the pen to the page
Similar to them shells going into my gauge
I hand 'em off to Dre, he turned them into granades
And Just Blaze, cuz the boy got game
Like I close my eyes, and woke up in a Roc chain
Now back to reality, my gun and my vest
And if diamonds are forever, then I'm Kanye West
Take a look at my chest, a hundred thou wet jacob
Whole crew got chains, a hundred thou can't break 'em
And the flow is hot like that wit Satan
And the only thing I got spinning is Daytons
The hotter I get the more willing to snake 'em
So soon as the beat drop, watch where I take 'em
Compton Swap meet, to get me some All-Stars
When Game in the house, they call ??
Cuz they heard about what went on in D.C
Heard about Hot 97, my beef with 50
Now tell me do he got a conscience?
I think not, cuz if he did I wouldn't be involved in this nonsense
Wouldn't be in Harlem, wouldn't be at this conference
I'd rather be pushing rock, like ??
50 whispered in my ear, like we still bonding
We ain't friends, I'm just acting like Charles Bronson
Middle finger in the air, one hand on my Johnson
Hip-Hop police on me like I'm the convict
What happened to the old school? I thought it was rhyming
Doug E. Fresh and Dana Day on the corner like Common
Now that ain't common, it's more like Top Ramen
The flow is news, I throw it up like vomit
And I still shine like diamonds
They kicked me out of G-Unit and I rebounded like Rodman
It's still Aftermath, two feet in the pentition
I be mad, I ain't, I'm supposed to stop I can't because
I'm in the hood politican, Impala ??
And I keep a black .45 on the side of my prada denim
Chip on my shoulder like I'm fresh outta prison
Dollar vision, blow a hundred thou like my wallet missing
Then re-up like kid before the d-cup
Continuously getting money with my feet up
Chasing the throne, here my black Air Force
I said fuck Benzino and got the cover of The Source
Feel me? If not then I guess you gotta kill me
But you ain't gon' do that so motherfucker move back
While I do B.I.G. and 'Pac impersonations on two tracks
When I wake the dead, everybody remove hats
We miss y'all, can I get a hand clap?
Now back to rap, why I gotta stay strapped?
On that murder T-I-P, kill you ASAP
They won't know which hole to patch up, when the ?? clap
I tried to spare you Young Buck, now it's time for payback
It go, how you from Cashville but you ain't got no cash nigga?
Say my name now that's your fucking ass nigga
Kept your mouth shut and I gave you a pass nigga
Now I gotta lay you down like the last nigga
Buck, buck, buck from my AK-47
This nigga playing with his life, I might have to put him in heaven
Tryna play the game, talking shit up on the stereo
Prepare for burial, it's when I'm reincarnating Harry-O
And you don't want that David cuz you love your life
Get my Vibe, when it's war he pull out butter knifes
Muthafucker I'ma show you who the gangsta
All you do is Murder Inc., now who the wanksta?
When Suge had you, you were stranded on Tha Row
Juve left you for dead and went back to the NO
50 heard you on the tour bus and felt your little flow
Then he made you temporary replacement for Yayo
You a bitch, and that's hard to swallow
And you got robbed for your spinning G-Unit chain in Chicago
I call my nigga Jojo to get it back
He had the shit in his hands, and you ain't had the ten stacks
Picture that, I thought we was G-Unit
Then you ran and told 50 that I did that shit
Ask C-Murder, the boy ain't hard to find
I told Monica when I catch him The Boy is Mine
Take one shot of Brandy and pop
Watch his panties drop, when I run inside the Candy Shop
Fuck you, 50, Banks, Yayo, and the cops
And Olivia, I mean for a man she hot
Now I'm running out of breath, like I just beat boxed
Got 20 bars to go, lay it down like sheet rock
Don't worry about the flow, the boy know he hot
Hurricanes in store November, nigga fuck Reebocks
I'm fly like a Hummingbird on a tree top
The new Hov, the new B.I.G., the new 'Pac, I need three spots
280 in, ain't no getting me back
I'm yelling fuck the world, on my victory lap
Remember first it was Buddens, then it was Bleek
Now it's whoever motherfucker, yeah, who want beef?
Now whenever motherfucker, who wanna see me?
In the coffin, body exhausted, resting in peace
You don't want war nigga, you want peace
So give 'em the peace, capiche (sp?)
Let 'em rest in peace
From west to east the flow is outdatable, irreplacable
Lyrical homicide, hell is hot, I'm boxing with Satan
And I slipped 'em the ace, you cannot replace 'em
If Eazy ever decide to return, I remain Jayceon
A king in the making, and the throne is for the taking
So I climb the mountain top and put my stake in
Got the weight of the world on my shoulder
Not a nigga nor a hoodrat bitch can stop me from taking it over
This is crack music, go get the baking soda
300 Bars and Runnin, nigga the wait is over
I'm gone..
edit - and anyone who utters this phrase
Secondly, I hold rap to different standards than other kinds of music.. Rap has the beat to fall back on, Amy Winehouse has her lyrics, and thats it..
has no right to call anyone retarded.
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Funkmasterr wrote:Secondly, I hold rap to different standards than other kinds of music.. Rap has the beat to fall back on, Amy Winehouse has her lyrics, and thats it...
Amy Winehouse may sing a capella, but the song in question is not. There's a beat, and musical instruments backing her vocals.

Plus, comparing different genres of music is retarded. Rap has its merits along with every other genre of music. Saying a rapper is better than a singer and vice versa is dumb. It's like comparing guitarists to drummers or football players to golfers.
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No, comparing the two is not retarded.. Someone who can freestyle for 15 minutes straight and actually make it sound good (if you listen to the song, not just read the text the moron above is trying to prove some unknown point with), that takes more wit and skill than 99% of music out.
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Funkmasterr wrote:Rap has the beat to fall back on, Amy Winehouse has her lyrics, and thats it..

Seriously? You need to just shoosh. Present your opinions as just that. You seem so foolish talking about music as if you know anything about it. I like rap. I don't think any one genre of music is better nor do I think that any requires more skill or talent than the other; though admittedly I prefer some to others.

Amy Winehouse - just like every other vocalist in the whole wide world - has at least 3 things to fall back on when the lyrics are weak ("weak" of course being subjective): their vocals, the rhythm and the melody. And if you think that because there isn't a strong presence of a drum or bass, the song is lacking in beat (rhythm), you are so sadly and sorely mistaken.
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laneela wrote:
Funkmasterr wrote:Rap has the beat to fall back on, Amy Winehouse has her lyrics, and thats it..

Seriously? You need to just shoosh. Present your opinions as just that. You seem so foolish talking about music as if you know anything about it. I like rap. I don't think any one genre of music is better nor do I think that any requires more skill or talent than the other; though admittedly I prefer some to others.

Amy Winehouse - just like every other vocalist in the whole wide world - has at least 3 things to fall back on when the lyrics are weak ("weak" of course being subjective): their vocals, the rhythm and the melody. And if you think that because there isn't a strong presence of a drum or bass, the song is lacking in beat (rhythm), you are so sadly and sorely mistaken.
If you would read the entire sentence you quoted you would see that it was presented as an opinion.

In my opinion, "rehab" in particular has nothing other than vocals, and if they lyrics are weak it doesn't matter how the voice sounds. That and any instruments in the background are not strong enough to make up for where she is lacking.

Rap beats are loud and in your face, they get you into the song. Some rock music does this too, but for me, the "artist" we are talking about fails this miserably.

There are genres of music and artists that I don't like that I will acknowledge are talented.. that is the difference people aren't picking up on here. I detest country music but there are a handful of them that I know are talented singers/songwriters, etc. This woman however I cannot, and will not consider as a talented individual, and that has little to nothing to do with me not liking her.
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In my opinion 99.9% of Rap music is absolutely fucking terrible so I'm probably not the best judge of what's good or not there. Glorifying a businessman's approach to getting out of a shitty upbringing in a poor place whilst starting pseudo-lyrical shouting matches with "rivals" is all fine and well, but in music, for me, it translates into little more than a retarded piece of shit garbage noise that fills me with irritation, boredom and a strong desire to mock people who for the most part can barely even speak the language they're attempting to lyrically converse in.

Nevertheless, despite not being her biggest fan by any stretch it's objectively undeniable that Amy Winehouse has more soul in her voice than 99.9% of vocalists doing the rounds right now.

Seeing her live is testament to that fact, a fact somewhat lost in the recorded versions of her songs. I think she's a moron as a person, but I don't know her, so I don't really give a shit, and I could be totally wrong and she's incredibly bright. Who knows, and more importantly, who gives a fuck?

The reality is that rehab is only one of her songs, and a weaker one at that except in regards to the anthemic "i said no no no" bit. Which is fair enough.

It's pretty simple, if you don't like her, don't buy her album, don't listen to her music, and don't piss up this forum with your whining about her, especially when your particular genre of choice is filled with people wanting to be real "g's" - whatever the fuck they are (no one cares).

But yeah, in all honesty, enjoy whatever music you like, but if you wish to be an objective critic, start acting like one.
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Funkmasterr wrote:And since people are already spinning my words, I'll clarify - I don't dislike her music because she is a crack whore - I dislike her as a person because she is a crack whore. And not because of drugs in general, because it's crack, and I have no respect for crack heads..
So the rappers who deal/dealt drugs are ok? Interesting logic there.
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Also, not liking a musician because they take drugs is...ridiculous. Is this 1950 or something?
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Are you guys choosing not to read what I'm saying properly or is there something I'm missing.


I don't like crack heads, they make me fucking sick.


Is that plain enough for you.

Xyphir, I won't answer you because you are still generalizing "drugs" when I specifically said crack 20 fucking posts ago.


Nick - I SPECIFICALLY said that I didn't dislike her music because she is a crack head, I dislike her as a person because crack heads are disgusting wastes of oxygen.

And yes, I place the people that sell the drugs higher than her.. They are enterprising people making money off of weak, pathetic excuses for life like herself.
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So you value people on an income based scale? Theoretically she would be very worthy of your respect then.

Wasn't this about music though?
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Nick wrote:So you value people on an income based scale? Theoretically she would be very worthy of your respect then.

Wasn't this about music though?
Yes, it was about music, and it was not me who completely derailed it, I mentioned her being a crack head as a side note.

Don't try and play the "crack is the po mans drug" bullshit card with me. I have no idea what her quality of life was like before now, but I do know that she is now wealthy, and has no excuse. If she is too weak willed to admit that she needs treatment like she should, then she is unworthy of the air she is breathing. Not to mention making a song about it even worsens the fact.
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So people shouldn't make songs about their own hard life that is largely brought on by themselves yet you listen to rap music?

also, what the hell is the "crack is the po mans drug" bullshit card ?????
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Nick wrote:So people shouldn't make songs about their own hard life that is largely brought on by themselves yet you listen to rap music?

also, what the hell is the "crack is the po mans drug" bullshit card ?????
You were implying it's a class based drug. There are plenty of middle to upper class crack heads (I've known of a fair number personally.)

Making a song about growing up in a bad neighborhood and making a song about being a crackhead and refusing to go to treatment even though people think you should because you think you are above it are two different things.
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But glorifying pimping and murdering people is totally fine right? Worthy of adulation and all that?

I don't really know where you are going with this.
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Funkmasterr wrote:Are you guys choosing not to read what I'm saying properly or is there something I'm missing.

I don't like crack heads, they make me fucking sick.

Is that plain enough for you.

Nick - I SPECIFICALLY said that I didn't dislike her music because she is a crack head, I dislike her as a person because crack heads are disgusting wastes of oxygen.
To quote the very first line of your initial post:
Funkmasterr wrote:(Amy Winehouse) Is one of the worst musicians I have listened to in the past 10 years.
Can you not see the problem here? I'm going to go out on a limb and say probably not.

What exactly are you trying to say other than you don't like 'crack heads'? You're all over the place here. From what I can tell it's two main things:

1) In your mind she sucks as a person because she used/uses crack although other drugs are apparently OK. And especially if they are just a drug dealer. It being such a noble profession and such because you get to take advantage of weak people and massive earn street cred.

2) She sucks as a musician despite her drug use/abuse because she has no talent.

Anthing else we're missing?
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Nick wrote:But glorifying pimping and murdering people is totally fine right? Worthy of adulation and all that?

I don't really know where you are going with this.
I'm not going anywhere with this dude, it's you that's twisting it around into this, and quite frankly it's starting to really piss me off. Allow me to elaborate, I was mostly posting about the music, you are pursuing this sideshoot of something else I said and trying to say I'm a hypocrite because I think what she does is bad and what rappers say isn't. I don't care what you think about my morals, about what you think about rap, or what you think about my opinions on Amy Winehouse. So trying to keep pushing this issue to make me realize my moral hypocrisy is a waste of your time. IE: Get back to the music part of the conversation or drop it.

Aslanna you aren't worth the energy it took me to type this, let alone a real reply to you.
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