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I said NT jackass!

(eom) is the official "no text" in message!

nt is a version of windows. had me all excited.

That's funny, because in the thread you ended with eom, I wanted to comment about how it should be NT for No Text.

yeah, who are you to change 10 years of internet meme?!

nt 4 life!

eom > nt

makes sense. it's more unique and identifiable.

I've never seen a copy of Windows EOM!

EOM ftw.

It saves people the double-click when they get an email. Of course, those fuckers should have a better version of outlook anyways.

EOM = End of Month

I don't see how NT would make someone open an email if they knew that there was no text included.

"Happy Birthday!" [EOM] seems fine to me, unless it is referring to the recipient's birthday at the end of the month. Then again, the recipient should know damn well when their own birthday is!

nt seems like a bad choice unless there's no word preceding it at all, otherwise there actually is text. And the "nt" itself is text. nt by itself posted in the "Computers/Technology" forum where Operating Systems are discusses frequently is asking for trouble and confusion!

The first place I actually saw it was in newsgroups used for discussion of various things. You did not have to spend time downloading the slow ass messages when you read the title and saw NT as that indicated that there was no actual text in the message. This was when people actually used the newsgroups for discussion rather than the latest movie release

I'm pretty sure I remember seeing "nt" used before usenet usage was common on echo mail networks back in the early / mid 80's. That makes it older than Windows NT by many years. I don't really care which is used since the meaning of either is obvious. TSIA can eat my ass, though. If you care about symbol usage efficiency, the two-letter version seems to make more sense.

Xatrei wrote:I'm pretty sure I remember seeing "nt" used before usenet usage was common on echo mail networks back in the early / mid 80's.

I'm positive I saw eom used on C-64 bulletin boards as early as 1983.

Here's a header from 1983:

wow.

I used to run a BBS on a C-64 in like 1985 and don't even recall 'lol' much less 'woot'. However, {eom} totally is correct.

Canelek wrote:I used to run a BBS on a C-64 in like 1985 and don't even recall 'lol' much less 'woot'. However, {eom} totally is correct.

Me too. Dual 1541s. At varying times, I ran BBSs on apple IIe with a 10mb hdd and a PC with a 40mb hdd. I miss BBSs.

Back to the topic at hand, I believe that (nt) predates eom. I received a message from an anonymous source claiming to have a copy of a 18th century carrier pigeon message using (nt). I'll update when I have confirmed this!

I ran a hacker/pirate BBS with 4x1541's (two of them borrowed from a friend). I'd fill three floppies with games and left one empty drive for people to upload games to. When the empty floppy filled up, I'd take out the oldest full floppy and then add another empty. It started out an extremely slow 300 baud but moved up to a speedy 1200 eventually!

CPU Headquarters (Central Pirating Unit) was the name of my BBS. It was national as Sprint/Metro, etc long distance codes (phreaking) were easy to get back then with about zero chance of getting caught. I was also a member of the Silicone Society which wasn't very big and we had lame hacker names compared to most. This was 1983/84 time frame while the BBS was 85/86.

I remember the first BBS I was on had a mailbox max capacity of three messages per user. We even attempted to play D&D using the email for awhile. Good times. I had as much fun playing that as most games today. It's all relative.

Check this site out:

http://users.commspeed.net/wlbbs/commodore/vol1.htm

It will bring back lots of memories when you see the names of various C-64 software.

COLOR 64 BBS was one (of several) I remember using
Fast Hackem was my favorite copy app

I don't remember most of the apps. However, I do remember spending hous working in Assembly to manipulate raster bars, etc...and some minor sprite animation. Good times! And yes, the jump from 300bps to 1200 was HUGE!

And of course phreaking, war dialing, etc...

1541's were for wimps.. my Lt Kernal. Spent more money on phone bills getting mods for the Color64 BBS I ran than I care to remember. I'll never forget the Supra 1200 modem being the shiznit. Actually paid for Ivory BBS and Color64 BBS software back then.

I had moved on from my commie by the time those came out.

My first commie bbs was one that a friend of mine and I cobbled together using a simple demonstration terminal program that we found in our school library as the starting point. It was pretty basic, but we had message boards (more of a graffiti board), private mail, file xfer and chat with the sysop. We kept a good collection of pirated booty, but due to storage constraints, users had to request files and I'd make them available on the 2nd drive. I think we managed to accumulate a user base of dozen or so people, including a couple people we didn't even know personally hehe. It was a fun after school project to tinker with, but we both eventually gave up on it and switched to other people's software. I don't even remember what it was, some crapware that a guy at the local computer shop gave me. It was short lived because I switched to my Apple II when I got a 6 month old ProFile HD and a ProFile card thanks to my dad's company giving up on their Apple experiment. It cost a fortune, and he bought it from them at less than half the cost of a new one (still a fortune). I think the software for that was called gbbs or something like that. I ran it intermittently until I sold all of my Apple gear to a friend of mine for a nice profit and did not run a BBS for several years, but continued to use them actively. Eventually, I set up a BBS on one of my later PCs and ran it for several years until the Internet made it pointless. My PC BBS was at varying times PCBoard, TBBS and WWIV. My C64 and Apple BBSs were around 83-85ish, and my PC boards were from 90-91 and 94 (I didn't operate one while in Germany).

At times, I'm tempted to set up a telnet BBS for a bit of nostalgic fun, but I'm too lazy these days.

Haha, so you've been pirating software for 25 years Winnow?

Aardor wrote:Haha, so you've been pirating software for 25 years Winnow?

Hell yes! I'm grandfather claused in and shouldn't have to buy software ever!

I had more fun screwing around with the BBS and hex editing games, etc. I remember getting pissed at Ultima III because I couldn't get a drawbridge to work so I did a hex edit and made myself a land bridge across some lava.

I also used to use hex editing to place my BBS name and phone # in game credits so people would call my BBS as the games spread around. Of course, that would be pretty dumb these days but back then, so few people were into the hobby that it didn't matter.

Before copy apps like Fast Hackem, I remember using a clone program that took something like 30 minutes to copy a floppy. (170kb)

Xatrei wrote:Eventually, I set up a BBS on one of my later PCs and ran it for several years until the Internet made it pointless. My PC BBS was at varying times PCBoard, TBBS and WWIV.

Think after moving my BBS to PC, I ended running PCBoard, 4 USRobotics HST 16.8 modems, an 8 port DigiBoard (with the good chips! (16550 uart?)) and 4 dial lines that were setup in the switch at the company I worked at for free LD calling. It's all Aslanna's fault for having the first USR dual-standard 14.4 modem I ever saw. We ended up as Fairlight seniors (fu THG!) and lived on little debbies. And rum. Aslanna likes rum.

I'm surprised we didn't end up as big as blimps.

We also co-operated what was one of (as far as we knew) the first multiplayer graphical online games at the time. Black Dagger ftw! Always wanted to put that back up to see if it would run these days.. ANSI graphics, QuickBasic 3.0 code.. good times! Who remembers ansi.sys?

Xatrei wrote:At times, I'm tempted to set up a telnet BBS for a bit of nostalgic fun, but I'm too lazy these days.

I wanted to do that as well, but never bothered to take the time and figure it out.

Man...i've been telling Xou for years that I miss our BBS days. This thread is like twisting the knife. ><