Terrorist plot in England

[Kelshara]

LONDON, England (CNN) -- British police say they have arrested 21 people in connection with a terrorist plot to blow up aircraft flying from the United Kingdom to the United States.

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europ ... index.html

Glad I am not flying out for another couple of months.

[Jice Virago]

Time to ramp up the fear machine before mid terms, since its all the Neocons have left to fall back on. Expect a heaping side order of homophobia to go with it in about a month or two.

[Cartalas]

Time to ramp up the fear machine before mid terms, since its all the Neocons have left to fall back on. Expect a heaping side order of homophobia to go with it in about a month or two.

So your saying this threat was not real?


Fuck off!

[Winnow]

Interesting about the liquid explosive that isn't detectable the normal screening devices.

Jice states the obvious but if I was a corrupt and desperate republican presidential canditate in 2008, I'd have lots of confusion and swat teams surround the Sears Tower the week before the elections and then arrest Jice as a patsy demonstrating his plans to use his metal orc army miniature figures as shrapnel in a home made bomb.

[Kelshara]

Well it is no secret that the airport security is a joke and more window dressing than anything. However, some of the rules on flights out of UK right now are ridiculous and can not last in the long term.

However I did laugh when I read they raised the terror meter. That thing is such a joke and fear mongering tool..

[Cotto]

If you want to get into the U.K go to Southern Ireland (which is easy as fuck to get into...its Ireland for fucks sake...nobody cares enough to terrorise it!) Then walk...or if you feel like spending £7, to Belfast, hop on a coach (£30) your in manchester, and not once have u been checked for a passport or any of that I.D nonsense!

[pyrella]

watch out for shakes on a plane?

[noel]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

He's holding a SCAR-L ?!?!

[Animalor]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

He's holding a SCAR-L ?!?!

I guess someone told Geraldo to go make himself usefull.

[Aabidano]

Margaret Gavin, 67, waiting to board a train, said she wasn’t scared. “Why should I change my life because some idiots want to blow something up?” she said.

[Winnow]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

He's holding a SCAR-L ?!?!

Cool stuff. Reminds me of the Rome Airport although they had military uniforms and shitty machine guns compared to that thing.

Looks funny holding that kind of weapon while wearing shorts.

[Kelshara]

One of the times I went to Greece was during some issues between Cyprus and Greece. Was kind of amusing to walk through the airport and see full machine gun nests covered by sandbags and everything heh. Makes you careful of quick movements!

[Hoarmurath]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

He's holding a SCAR-L ?!?!

H&K G36K

[laneela]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

He's holding a SCAR-L ?!?!

I guess someone told Geraldo to go make himself usefull.

And to put on a UPS uniform while he was at it.

[Canelek]

That H&K stuff ain't cheap!

Cool that they give those out to bicycle cops.

[Noysyrump]

A hot girlie friend of mine was on that plane... she's feelin lucky now...

[noel]

Thanks Hoar, I wasn't thinking of the HKs.

[redeemed]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

He's holding a SCAR-L ?!?!

I guess someone told Geraldo to go make himself usefull.

my first thought on that pic was reno 911
and I'm sharing since we already derailed, kinda

[Metanis]

Everyone hates the current color coded threat indicators. I think we should just do away with them. Instead the airlines could just incorporate a Last Will & Testament clause in your ticket stub. And perhaps people should be forced to actually read a conservative newspaper on a regular basis so they can be properly informed.

No! Seriously I agree the threat indicators are stupid, I mean who expects we will ever see it "Green" in our lifetimes? So what's the difference between Orange and Red to the average person?

But you have to give Rove credit for coming up with this idea, he can swing millions of votes with the flip of a switch!

Edit typo - changed thread to threat.

[Zaelath]

And perhaps people should be forced to actually read a conservative newspaper on a regular basis so they can be properly informed.

Informed about what? That someone with your IQ has about 10,000 times the chance of choking to death on a pretzel as being killed by a terrorist?

[Cartalas]

And perhaps people should be forced to actually read a conservative newspaper on a regular basis so they can be properly informed.

Informed about what? That someone with your IQ has about 10,000 times the chance of choking to death on a pretzel as being killed by a terrorist?

Your Right!! Thanks to the conservative measures to protect our airports.

[*~*stragi*~*]

At least he has good trigger discipline

[Kelshara]

And perhaps people should be forced to actually read a conservative newspaper on a regular basis so they can be properly informed.

Informed about what? That someone with your IQ has about 10,000 times the chance of choking to death on a pretzel as being killed by a terrorist?

Your Right!! Thanks to the conservative measures to protect our airports.

You do realize airport security is a joke, right? Please tell me that you are just trolling again..

[Winnow]

You do realize airport security is a joke, right? Please tell me that you are just trolling again..

How is it a joke? How many planes have blown up since the new measures were put in place after 911 in the U.S.?

I don't care how many reporters can sneak nuclear bombs through security. I'm talking actual terrorist attacks since 911 in airports/on planes.

[Markulas]

yeah guys! c'mon, I mean just because reporters can carry on nuclear bombs through airport security doesn't mean terrorists can. It's like comparing apples to oranges.

But anyways, wouldn't the inability to have carry-ons eventually speed up wait lines?

[Nick]

Can't listen to my ipod on a plane anymore

[Metanis]

And perhaps people should be forced to actually read a conservative newspaper on a regular basis so they can be properly informed.

Informed about what? That someone with your IQ has about 10,000 times the chance of choking to death on a pretzel as being killed by a terrorist?

You sir are incredibly naive. You drill in to the fat of the subject like an obscene mosquito while totally missing the blood, bone, and sinew. What a waste of human potential...

The issue isn't the relative chances of a particular method of death. The issue is 2 fold. Citizens have a right to be informed. Governments have a repsonsibility to inform with clarity and conciseness. The present system fails in every regard.

The project would be to determine additional methods of informing the public that work better and are not subject to Rovian political manipulation.

In your typical Liberal arrested development mindset you can't even frame the question clearly let alone devise alternative solutions.

Also your statistic is meaningless from a public policy standpoint. Seen any news flashes of someone forced to choke on a pretzel by a fanatical snack salesman?

[Nick]

If you're trying to make any point you have failed.

What exactly are you trying to say? That was a selection of completely unrelated words bashed into a couple of very loosely associated sentences with little direction....

Not to be a dick...but in all honesty, what?

[Metanis]

If you're trying to make any point you have failed.

What exactly are you trying to say? That was a selection of completely unrelated words bashed into a couple of very loosely associated sentences with little direction....

Not to be a dick...but in all honesty, what?

Not to be a dick... but have you actually read this thread?

In the 2nd post Jice commented regarding ramping up the fear factor and 3 posts later Kelshara said she laughed when they raised the terror meter. Then there was a whole mash of posts loosely related to airport security.

Then I posted a generally sarcastic post about the threat indicators (just now realizing I had a typo once saying thread indicators when I meant Threat Indicators) and at least trying to point out that people need to make informed decisions about their own direction.

Finally, Zaelath in a bit of infantile sputtering tried to derail into a moral equivalence comment that terrorism isn't worth being informed about.

And we end with the post which you seem too mentally taxed to understand.

It's like spoon feeding children here

[Nick]

I can handle the condescension, I just don't think it's particularly relevant here.

You asked for ridiculous replies when you assumed that real news only comes from "conservative" outlets, when everybody long ago figured out you look at both sides, distill the bullshit and come to your own conclusion.

Your attack on Zealath was equally, if not more pointless as his post to you. I know you think you're old and wise and everything, but what point beyond "anyone who doesn't read what I read is a moron" are you trying to make?

[Aslanna]

The Threat Level nonsense is basically just that: nonsense. It's a political tool. What exactly does the average person do differently if it's green versus when it is red? The answer to that is "nothing". Communicate it amongst law enforcement agencies sure but I'm not sure anyone else really pays attention.

You should always be on the lookout for, and report, suspicious activities regardless of the silly threat level indicator.

[Boogahz]

The Threat Level nonsense is basically just that: nonsense. It's a political tool. What exactly does the average person do differently if it's green versus when it is red? The answer to that is "nothing". Communicate it amongst law enforcement agencies sure but I'm not sure anyone else really pays attention.

You should always be on the lookout for, and report, suspicious activities regardless of the silly threat level indicator.

The average person might do nothing when the threat level increases, but law enforcement does. How law enforcement reacts will determine the actual impact on the average person.

[Aslanna]

That's sorta what I'm saying. But that's not how it's used. It's plastered all over the media when the threat level increases. Unless you're saying that they'll the average person will have a better understanding of why law enforcement officials are acting as they are.

Although really how much different does law enforcement act? Do the poilce officers in your town do things differently when the level is raised? I'm going to say most of them probably don't unless it's directed in specific areas such as it is currently with airline travel.

[Metanis]

I can handle the condescension, I just don't think it's particularly relevant here.

I'm sorry.

You asked for ridiculous replies when you assumed that real news only comes from "conservative" outlets, when everybody long ago figured out you look at both sides, distill the bullshit and come to your own conclusion.

I used that word on purpose because you seriously cannot depend on the MSM to be fully informed. Even if it's not obviously tilted one way or the other it displays interesting bias in the facts it chooses to ignore.

Your attack on Zealath was equally, if not more pointless as his post to you. I know you think you're old and wise and everything, but what point beyond "anyone who doesn't read what I read is a moron" are you trying to make?

I think he's a drone. I'm sorry but it was enormously satisfying to attack him. I realize it's a sin, but I'm not above the sin of pettiness at times. I also greatly dislike his obviously contemptible logic mechanism in attempting to downplay the seriousness of terrorism.

[Boogahz]

That's sorta what I'm saying. But that's not how it's used. It's plastered all over the media when the threat level increases. Unless you're saying that they'll the average person will have a better understanding of why law enforcement officials are acting as they are.

Although really how much different does law enforcement act? Do the poilce officers in your town do things differently when the level is raised? I'm going to say most of them probably don't unless it's directed in specific areas such as it is currently with airline travel.

They do act different here. I don't know if it's because Austin is the state capital or what. They open up the Homeland Security Bunker and make people go to work and don't let them leave until the level is brought back down to pink!

I am not saying that the media plastering the color-coded nonsense has any effect on any "civilian." I am just saying that when the level changes, there are required changes that come along with it. Those changes are at different levels of the gov't and law enforcement.

[kyoukan]

The Threat Level nonsense is basically just that: nonsense. It's a political tool. What exactly does the average person do differently if it's green versus when it is red?

Vote for a president that lied to them about intelligence evidence and ruined their economy?

[Zaelath]

Your attack on Zealath was equally, if not more pointless as his post to you. I know you think you're old and wise and everything, but what point beyond "anyone who doesn't read what I read is a moron" are you trying to make?

I think he's a drone. I'm sorry but it was enormously satisfying to attack him. I realize it's a sin, but I'm not above the sin of pettiness at times. I also greatly dislike his obviously contemptible logic mechanism in attempting to downplay the seriousness of terrorism.

ROFLMAO; people should read more right wing news print so they can be "informed" what to be afraid of this week, and I'm the drone? So evil using logic and rationalism to assess a threat, laff.

AHAHAHAHAHA, fuck, if you weren't so pathetic and also so representative of your race, it would be hysterical.

Quick, DUCK AND COVER, Metanis! RUN! HIDE! THERE'S REDS UNDER THE BED.

Fucking sheep.

[Jice Virago]

Interesting about the liquid explosive that isn't detectable the normal screening devices.

Jice states the obvious but if I was a corrupt and desperate republican presidential canditate in 2008, I'd have lots of confusion and swat teams surround the Sears Tower the week before the elections and then arrest Jice as a patsy demonstrating his plans to use his metal orc army miniature figures as shrapnel in a home made bomb.

The figures are far too expensive to waste that way. I would just use my 360 for those parts.

But seriously, no one can ever be safe from a determined terrorist. Its all a question of how much liberty you are willing to sacrifice to sate your fear. Next they will be smuggling it on sewn into clothing, so everyone will need to be naked on the plane. Then they will be shoving baloons of it up their ass, so no more bathroom use on the plane.

[Al]

I agree. While I would much rather hear about a plot being foiled than the nonsense I awakened to about 5 years ago, I'm not a big fan of needing a background check to get a bank account, or standing in line for 2 hours at the Buffalo Airport so I can wait outside the security checkpoint to the gates for an hour on a delayed flight....

[Metanis]

So evil using logic and rationalism to assess a threat, laff.

Actually yes you are correct, it can be evil as you attempted to portray it. I'm wondering now if you are really as stupid as you present yourself?

[Zaelath]

So evil using logic and rationalism to assess a threat, laff.

Actually yes you are correct, it can be evil as you attempted to portray it. I'm wondering now if you are really as stupid as you present yourself?

I know you can't be...