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Where the hell is this thing!?
Posted: December 14, 2002, 7:39 pm
by Skogen
Shaman Spell: Primal Essence. I have not seen this spell for sale at all. Drops in SSra apparently. Is it rare as hell? Does it sell for some ungodly sum when a copy actually surfaces?
Posted: December 14, 2002, 7:46 pm
by kyoukan
make a poll about it and ask
Posted: December 14, 2002, 7:49 pm
by Skogen
ah fuck, that's to muck work right now. I've got a bad hangover, and my wife is bitching at me.
Posted: December 14, 2002, 8:15 pm
by VariaVespasa
Its a fairly rare drop in ssra at least. Only seen a couple on our last half dozen assorted raids there. On the other hand nobody else in ixtlan or legion needs it anymore so youre next up.

*Hugs*
Varia
Posted: December 14, 2002, 8:36 pm
by Fash
drop off a Shissar Mystic which is 2nd floor ssra behind a keyed door. Pretty sure its the ac/hp key.
Posted: December 14, 2002, 11:13 pm
by Skogen
Gay....I have enough work cut out for me as it is trying to score pox, torpor and avatar!
Us poor shamans....can I get a *sniif*, plz?
Posted: December 14, 2002, 11:14 pm
by Keverian FireCry
also is a click effect from a hammer off Silverwing in Veeshan's Peak
Posted: December 15, 2002, 3:58 am
by Winnow
Keverian FireCry wrote:also is a click effect from a hammer off Silverwing in Veeshan's Peak
I'd give you my cursed Hammer of the Dragonborn with the Primal Essence Effect.
10 second cast time, 2H weapon you need to swap and put away your shield/primary weapon to cast...stats suck on hammer so you won't be wielding it othewise....spell lasts 20 mins or less.
PE and the hammer is hell. PE spell is only slightly less hellish with its short duration.
Duration of this spell needs to be lengthened to 60 mins
Posted: December 15, 2002, 4:04 am
by Drewno
Just get your guild primal, and your problem is solved!
Posted: December 15, 2002, 6:14 am
by Aruman
Drewno wrote:Just get your guild primal, and your problem is solved!
ROFL... Obviously not a shaman.
Primal Essence != Primal Avatar
Posted: December 15, 2002, 8:05 am
by seiffil
Primal Essence != Primal Avatar
yea, but for each melee that has primal, that's one less person you have to worry about casting PE on most likely. Then the annoying spell is only needed for casters.
There's also that group PE hammer from that burrower in Acrylia I think.
Posted: December 15, 2002, 8:54 am
by Winnow
<---- Ass Pants Outfit
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Here's some retro shots of the huge Hammer of the Dragonborn. I had to drag this monstrosity out each time someone needed PE and then every 20 minutes after that for another round of 10 second casts.
If EQ had a '70's era, this outfit belonged to it.
Eep! Plenty of reason to stay in DE form:

Posted: December 15, 2002, 9:22 am
by Cracc
Not to sure on this, but i think PE stacks with anything, including avatar.
Kinda like the mage DS diamond staff from VP also stacks with about every DS/Resist buff
Posted: December 15, 2002, 11:05 am
by Boo
Heya Lusc,
I wouldn't worry too much about PE and the Avatar line of spells. They aren't that terribly important. Hell, I don't even have PE myself and that doesn't slow me down.
Just get your barfbarian ass to 65 first, the rest will fall into places...
As for Torpor, Pox, etc, I'll help keep a look out for ya as well...
Later,
Posted: December 15, 2002, 2:30 pm
by Winnow
Cracc wrote:Not to sure on this, but i think PE stacks with anything, including avatar.
Kinda like the mage DS diamond staff from VP also stacks with about every DS/Resist buff
PE doesn't stack with Avatar. PE also has stacking issues with Agility buffs and some other buffs. It's desired mostly for the +20 Stamina.
Posted: December 15, 2002, 3:33 pm
by Aruman
seiffil wrote: Primal Essence != Primal Avatar
yea, but for each melee that has primal, that's one less person you have to worry about casting PE on most likely. Then the annoying spell is only needed for casters.
There's also that group PE hammer from that burrower in Acrylia I think.
If I am not mistaken I think they fixed the stacking problem of PE and PA.
I'll have to check it out though and make sure.
Posted: December 15, 2002, 4:31 pm
by Samila
Seen it for sale about 3 times. First one I bought for my shaman for 5k. Other two times i've seen it for 55k and 35k.
Fash's info on where it drops sounds right from memory. I've seen it drop 3 times I think.
It's a nice spell imo, but it ain't gonna break you to not have.
P.S. - F U to those selling Torpor for 65k+!!!! *grumble*
Posted: December 15, 2002, 10:48 pm
by Skogen
Samila wrote:Seen it for sale about 3 times. First one I bought for my shaman for 5k. Other two times i've seen it for 55k and 35k.
Fash's info on where it drops sounds right from memory. I've seen it drop 3 times I think.
It's a nice spell imo, but it ain't gonna break you to not have.
P.S. - F U to those selling Torpor for 65k+!!!! *grumble*
NO SHIT. I saw Torpor for 60k & Malo for 59k in bazaar just now!!
Posted: December 15, 2002, 10:56 pm
by Karae
lol that's ridiculous. Juggs can be solo'd now.
Posted: December 16, 2002, 4:50 am
by Rekaar.
For all the hundreds of juggs we killed, we never had level 60 shaman spells drop. Only off the Kunark boss type guys. Not that restricting it to o-so-hard Overking Bathezid makes it harder, just something that pissed me off when I counted up how many mage pet spells we had on gimps from jugg farming.
Posted: December 16, 2002, 5:14 am
by Sylvos
we used to get torpor every xp run at least 3 times in VP.
not to mention other level 60 kunark spells that were "rare"
Posted: December 16, 2002, 11:42 am
by Sabek
We got torpor/malo a couple times from sebby protector and Jumpy back when I was in RoS.
Never saw them from any of the other juggs.
Checked Lucy and it says PE and PA don't stack.
Posted: December 16, 2002, 2:07 pm
by Voronwë
jumpy and prot both drop lvl 60 sperls more often than not, correct?
but apparently, that is the most useful aspect of VP is that you get a decent number of lvl 60 kunark spells
Posted: December 16, 2002, 3:17 pm
by Aabidano
Guardian wurms in SF drop 60 kunark spells also, though not as common as in VP.
I've seen a couple torpors drop during the eternal RF camps we used to endure.
Posted: December 16, 2002, 3:53 pm
by Melrin_Specclaster
It drops of shaman mystics and for those that havent lived and breathed ssra.....
Mystic is a rare (very rare) spawn in many spawn locations, not just those behind locked doors, although I only remember specifically seeing them on 2nd floor. They drop PE or (that group shaman seeing buff thing). They always drop one of the two when they spawn.
Posted: December 16, 2002, 4:01 pm
by KilornCloudwalker
I need to start huntin it SSra..only been there once and did mines for a bit...exp wasn't THAT bad for aaxp...I'd like to get both of these spells eventually, while I kill time getting Torpor/Malo/Pox
Posted: December 16, 2002, 4:14 pm
by Aabidano
Ssra was pretty decent exp pre-PooP if you stayed out of the mines. Almost as good as CT IMO.