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750 gig

Posted: April 26, 2006, 3:40 pm
by Pherr the Dorf
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12492893/
SAN JOSE, Calif. - Seagate Technology LLC is beefing up the capacity of its hard disk drives to a whopping 750 gigabytes, offering consumers of digital media more storage for their computers than ever before.

The drive Seagate will introduce Wednesday, the Barracuda 7200.10, is the first computer desktop disk drive to hit the 750-gigabyte mark and represents a 50 percent increase from the previous industry maximum of 500 gigabytes.
closing in on the big big number

Posted: April 26, 2006, 3:46 pm
by Sylvus
That's good, it'll probably drive the price down on the 500 gb that I want to buy.

Posted: April 26, 2006, 4:02 pm
by Sargeras
And I just bought a 200gig :cry:

Posted: April 26, 2006, 4:29 pm
by Winnow
The 250's are nice and cheap now.

1.3-1.6 Terabytes seems to be working out pretty well for me.

The stats I've seen on the new 750's though put them close in performance to the Raptor drives. Now that's a good reason to get them. Typically though, for mass storage, you dont need the super fast HDs and the sweet spot is always a step down in size (the 300GB drives in this case, and 500GBs soon) for multimedia type storage.

Posted: April 26, 2006, 5:35 pm
by Mr Bacon
I'm deciding between a WD 250gb HD for $84, or a 320GB for $110.

I'm running on an 80GB as we speak.

Posted: April 26, 2006, 7:14 pm
by Leonaerd
I have an 80Gb too, and I'm only using 40 gigs of it. What kind of porn do you guys watch?

Posted: April 27, 2006, 9:33 am
by Fairweather Pure
What kind of porn do you guys watch?
A typical porn movie is 1.4ish gigs per movie, divided up into 2, 700ish MB files.

Posted: April 27, 2006, 10:40 am
by Psyloche
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Posted: April 27, 2006, 10:57 am
by miir
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Posted: April 27, 2006, 8:32 pm
by Winnow
Looks like there's a 960GB version of this drive coming out a little while after the 750GB.


In other news:
PHILADELPHIA -- Excessive moisture can typically wreak havoc on electronic devices, but now researchers have demonstrated that a little water can help create ultra-dense storage systems for computers and electronics.

A team of experimentalists and theorists at the University of Pennsylvania, Drexel University and Harvard University has proposed a new and surprisingly effective means of stabilizing and controlling ferroelectricity in nanostructures: terminating their surfaces with fragments of water. Ferroelectrics are technologically important "smart" materials for many applications because they have local dipoles, which can switch up and down to encode and store information. The team's work is reported in the April issue of Nano Letters.

"It is astonishing to see that a single wire of even a few atoms across can act as a stable and switchable dipole memory element," Jonathan Spanier, assistant professor of materials science and engineering at Drexel, said.

Spanier and his colleagues successfully demonstrated the benefits of using water to stabilize memory bits in segments of oxide nanowires that are only about 3 billionths of a meter wide.

"We have been interested in how water sticks to oxides," Alexie Kolpak, Penn graduate student in theoretical physical chemistry, said. "We are particularly excited that water is the key ingredient in making these wires 'remember' their state."

In this investigation, led by Hongkun Park of Harvard and Andrew Rappe of Penn, the researchers probed oxide nanowires individually to characterize the size-dependence of ferroelectricity and performed calculations and experiments to validate the presence of molecules on oxide surfaces and detail their important role in nanoscale ferroelectricity. Significantly, these results show that ferroelectric surfaces with water fragments or other molecules can stabilize ferroelectricity in smaller structures than previously thought.

Though a scheme for the dense arrangement and addressing of these nanowires remains to be developed, such an approach would enable a storage density of more than 100,000 terabits per cubic centimeter. If this memory density can be realized commercially, a device the size of an iPod nano could hold enough MP3 music to play for 300,000 years without repeating a song or enough DVD quality video to play movies for 10,000 years without repetition.

This work is supported by the National Science Foundation, the Packard Foundation, the Dreyfus Foundation, the Office of Naval Research, the Center for Piezoelectric Design and the Army Research Office.

Posted: April 28, 2006, 10:34 am
by cadalano
couldnt you just buy a bunch of 250's and a raid controller for more storage, faster speed, redundancy, and a cheaper price? Seems silly to buy a drive this large in that case.

Posted: April 28, 2006, 12:25 pm
by Winnow
cadalano wrote:couldnt you just buy a bunch of 250's and a raid controller for more storage, faster speed, redundancy, and a cheaper price? Seems silly to buy a drive this large in that case.
You can always say that...no matter what the largest size is, buy a few sizes down. In this case, for speed, the answer is probably no though as these drives approach Raptor performance levels.

As for redundancy...for a home user...how much do you have that really needs to be redundant? I have two 250GB's mirrored for some personal stuff but really...not much important stuff is very large (documents) Everything else you can get back from the newsgroups as your backup.

I have 80GB or so of comics scanned...but they're all on DC++ and I could get them back easily if I lost them. The internet (newsgroups, DC++, etc) is your redundancy for media.

The most important time saver is to backup your OS partition..but again, that should only be like 40GB or less if you partion your HDs right and it takes like 15mins to make a back up using TrueImage. You can make multiple backups and stick them on more than one HD. One thing I like about Acronis TrueImage is mounting old backups as virtual drives. I still have my OS partition from my pre Dual Core/MB upgrade and mount it occasionally to get the odd file needed from it.

If you have your OS backed up and your personal files (which shouldnt be that large), you dont really need mirroring etc IMO for home use. For gaming, a Raptor drive (or one of these new drives) will be great for load speeds in gaming...raiding two doesn't improve performance that much in games.

Posted: April 28, 2006, 12:29 pm
by Pherr the Dorf
I lost 200 gigs of music and have replaced most of it inside a month

Posted: April 28, 2006, 2:12 pm
by Siji
a device the size of an iPod nano could hold enough MP3 music to play for 300,000 years without repeating a song or enough DVD quality video to play movies for 10,000 years without repetition.
Non-stop pr0n!

Posted: April 28, 2006, 5:25 pm
by cadalano
eh are they that fast?

SATA 3.0 and only 7200 RPM should leave them at about twice the seek time of the highest quality raptors (or the highest quality seagates for that matter)

Posted: April 28, 2006, 5:26 pm
by Winnow
cadalano wrote:eh are they that fast?

SATA 3.0 and only 7200 RPM should leave them at about twice the seek time of the highest quality raptors (or the highest quality seagates for that matter)
The seek time that I saw on them was 4.2ms

Posted: April 28, 2006, 5:28 pm
by cadalano
where are you getting that? i'm just estimating from other seagate models

Posted: May 1, 2006, 11:54 am
by Deward
mwave.com has the 750GB for $499. Too high for me right now but the price should drive other drives down. Between my three systems I have 600 GB of space. I am using about 450 GB right now. It fills up remarkably easy when you start ripping DVDs (4.5-9 GB each), mp3s and video games. Not to mention backups here and there. I tend to be a packrat though.

I have a digital video camera and messing with videos can take up a 100 gigs easy.

I suspect I will need to add more hard drives by Christmas. My new system has SATA and I figure I will pick up a big hard drive on teh day after Thanksgiving sale. I have been able to buy 160GB drives the last two years for $40 each.