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Eddie Guerrero passes away

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Eddie Guerrero passes away
Nov. 13, 2005

WWE is deeply saddened by the news that Eddie Guerrero has passed away. He was found dead Sunday morning in his hotel room in Minneapolis. Eddie is survived by his wife Vickie and daughters Shaul, 14, Sherilyn, 9, and Kaylie Marie, 3.



The cause of death is unknown at this time. An autopsy will be performed in Minneapolis on Monday, and Eddie's body will then be flown to Arizona. Funeral arrangements are set for Thursday.
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one of the best at what he did. I never liked his (stage) character, but considering the hand he was dealt and his experience, he always had my respect as far as wrestling goes.

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Yes, it was saddening.
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Early reports point towards sudden heart failure. Apparently he died brushing his teeth, and had been seen just a short while earlier seemingly fine.

Really sad considering he should have died of overdose at least twice in the past, but just celebrated his 4th anniversary of being totally clean and sober. A real success story, that inspired a lot of sports/entertainment fans, suddenly brought to an untimely end.
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everyone take of your nascar hats and lower your mullets in a moment of silence.
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kyoukan wrote:everyone take of your nascar hats and lower your mullets in a moment of silence.
Too bad you cannot trade places with him.
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Seriously kyo, fuck you
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kyoukan wrote:everyone take of your nascar hats and lower your mullets in a moment of silence.
I am usually not one to make light of someone's death, but that was pretty funny.
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Watching RAW tonight was rough. Very emotional night.
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RAW....emotional...same sentence...really?
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kyoukan wrote:everyone take of your nascar hats and lower your mullets in a moment of silence.
Wait a sec.....this is coming from a girl that lives in the country that INVENTED mullets? Cracker puhlease. You don't even want to compare rednecks per capita...especially when you can pop out your upper plate to give gumjobs to your husband.
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Withefel wrote:RAW....emotional...same sentence...really?
Yes, really. If you don't watch wrestling, you don't really know what it is all about and entails.
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He was great to watch. I'll miss him. It was a sad show last night
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It was pretty sad. RAW is taped on Sunday evening...so everyone was running on about a day's worth of emotion after hearing about Eddie's untimely death.

You really got to see a different, more human side to these massive guys last night. When you see a 7' tall nearly 500 lb guy crying...

I really liked the way it was handled. You could just see the pure emotion and love for Eddie on the faces of his co-workers and friends as they entered the ring. You knew they were there to give their best to honor their friend.

I thought Chris Benoit's tribute was very intense. It was funny, my wife asked me earlier in the evening..."Are you crying?" Then she chuckled a bit because I was. After watching Chris Benoit...I looked over and my wife had tears streaming down her cheek.

Yeah, you can make fun of "Professional Wrestling". You can disparage it and call it the pap of the uneducated masses. It is just another form of entertainment. And although it may be "sports entertainment" with a predetermined/scripted outcome for each match...those guys are just people that have a passion for what they do, for each other, their fans and their families.

Now Nascar...THAT'S for redneck hillbillies :lol:
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Yeah, you can make fun of "Professional Wrestling". You can disparage it and call it the pap of the uneducated masses.
Will do!


Btw, when I used to deliver home medical equipment, which was my first job right out of high school, I noticed retarded children have an unhealthy attachment to all things pro wrestling. I'm talkin' all kinds of retarded kids that run the gambit from Down's Syndrome to severe mental retardation. Also of note, none of these kids knew each other. It's not like they were all in a special care facility and they all watched it together. These were kids in differnt homes and in different cities altogether, bound by the common love for all things pro wrestling. The kids were always fantastic to deal with, but I've never been able to disassociate pro wrestling from those kids.

Sorry to hear this guy died.
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Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Wait a sec.....this is coming from a girl that lives in the country that INVENTED mullets? Cracker puhlease. You don't even want to compare rednecks per capita...especially when you can pop out your upper plate to give gumjobs to your husband.
are you high or just deluded? you can't throw a rock in that shithole country of yours without it bouncing off the skull of some nascar watching racist. even your fucking president is a brain dead redneck.
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Sure it's sad but that's what you get from a lifetime of steroids, alcohol and drug abuse.


How many more wrestlers have to drop dead before drug and steroid screening becomes mandatory for WWE employees.
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rick rude, curt hennig, bobby duncum jr.(?), ms. elizabeth - the more recent deaths due to drugs were all inactive when they OD'd. just something to consider.

yokozuna, the british bulldog, stu hart, hawk, and owen hart died of illnesses, natural causes, or a poorly overseen PPV stunt.

for anyone who missed them, the guerrero tribute interviews/videos are on <a href="http://wwe.com/">wwe.com</a>.
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kyoukan wrote:
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:Wait a sec.....this is coming from a girl that lives in the country that INVENTED mullets? Cracker puhlease. You don't even want to compare rednecks per capita...especially when you can pop out your upper plate to give gumjobs to your husband.
are you high or just deluded? you can't throw a rock in that shithole country of yours without it bouncing off the skull of some nascar watching racist. even your fucking president is a brain dead redneck.
What a stereotypical person you are. Pot...Kettle?

I know this is nothing new, but damn...
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I guess it's ok for Midnyte to be sad since his nickname wasn't 'Dimebag'.
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miir wrote:Sure it's sad but that's what you get from a lifetime of steroids, alcohol and drug abuse.


How many more wrestlers have to drop dead before drug and steroid screening becomes mandatory for WWE employees.
Couldn't have said it better.

All of that shit makes your heart a ticking time bomb and never really goes away. Your arteries get permanently damaged and filled with hypertension related clots and your heart chambers become swollen; all just to get that freakish physique.
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After the untimely passing of Eddie Guerrero, WWE and the entire sports-entertainment community is steel reeling from the devastating loss of a champion. The initial autopsy reports on Guerrero have come in. WWE.com spoke with Eddie’s widow, Vickie Guerrero, earlier today.

“It was heart failure. It was from his past – the drinking and the drug abuse. They found signs of heart disease. She (the examiner) said that the blood vessels were very worn and narrow, and that just showed all the abuse from the scheduling of work and his past. And Eddie just worked out like crazy all the time. It made his heart grow bigger and work harder and the vessels were getting smaller, and that’s what caused the heart failure. He went into a deep sleep.

As soon as they saw his heart, they saw the lining of his heart already had the heart disease. There was no trauma, and Eddie hadn’t hurt himself in any way. It answered a lot of questions. I knew Eddie wasn’t feeling very good for the last week. He was home and kept saying he wasn’t feeling good and we thought it was just “road tired.” So we thought he just had to rest. It answered a lot of my questions, too, because he was just so exhausted. She said it was normal because the heart was working so hard.
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Aslanna wrote:I guess it's ok for Midnyte to be sad since his nickname wasn't 'Dimebag'.

In Midnyte's bizarro world, it's ok to mourn for someone who essentially commited suicide, but not ok to mourn for someone who was murdered.
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Eddie was the shit, he's going to be missed. Still a damn shame that his drug and alcohol problems caught up to him even after he was sober for 4 years :(
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Aslanna wrote:I guess it's ok for Midnyte to be sad since his nickname wasn't 'Dimebag'.
I'd forgotten that one. Can't wait to see his reply to that..
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Dregor Thule wrote:
Aslanna wrote:I guess it's ok for Midnyte to be sad since his nickname wasn't 'Dimebag'.
I'd forgotten that one. Can't wait to see his reply to that..
That was actually the first thing I thought of, but didn't want to do the same thing to him that he does to everyone else. But then I thought "Fuck Midnyte", so here I am.

I'm guessing he probably won't reply to the bad stuff though, he chooses to focus on the positive. He's said it in at least 10 threads, it's gotta be true.

Dimebag has a nickname that may or may not imply that he smoked some pot, and deserves to be murdered and his memory spat upon. This guy admittedly abused drugs and alcohol which resulted in his death and Midnyte is very emotional. Good work, hypocrite!

For all of you who aren't Midnyte that were affected by this, my heart goes out to you. While I'm not particularly familiar with Eddie Guerrero, it's a sad thing when someone you respect passes away.
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Farrel wrote:rick rude, curt hennig, bobby duncum jr.(?), ms. elizabeth - the more recent deaths due to drugs were all inactive when they OD'd. just something to consider.
Yes because health problems related to long term steroid abuse go away after you stop wrestling for six weeks.
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lol, all that critiscm and you manage to weave your way to my response?
the point is that the WWE isnt going to screen employees no longer under their payroll.
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Uh they would not need to screen ex employees if they actually screened current ones. Pretty sad that people have to die to look good enough to take part in a soap opera.
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I wasnt suggesting that they screen former employees.

the question was "how many more wrestlers have to drop dead before drug and steroid screening becomes mandatory for WWE employees[?]"

my response was that the only recent drug-related deaths in the business were from wrestlers who were no longer employed with the WWE. of course when I say drug-related, Im talking about those who were not sober at the time of their deaths. the company may have recently implemented stricter regulations in regards to drug-use, considering the decrease in drug-related fatalities with its current employees. but because long-term effects of former drug-use can be triggered by other factors long after the abuse ceases, its unfair to say that the company does not (as opposed to "did" not) enforce stricter regulations now because of a death or deaths due to drug-use several years prior.

Im certainly not questioning whether or not drug-use was rampant throughout pro-wrestling at one time.
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Sylvus, Dregor and Aslanna....try and get over the hate you have for me. It really makes you look like a retard when you disrupt every thread with your vile.
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With their vile what?

You got yourself fucking pwned Midnyte, why don't you just admit to that and get on with your mourning?

While it is sad that the guy dies, that is what happens after a life time of abuse. He made his own bed and unfortunately it caught up with him, jumped on his back and killed him.
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Yep, at least when he went out he wasn't fucked up like he used to be. Takes a strong person to completely quit that stuff, even if it did kill him in the end.
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I think we all know who looks like a retard in this thread.
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the point is that the WWE isnt going to screen employees no longer under their payroll.
No, the point is that when these guys were wrestling with the WCW/WWF they were heavy steriod and/or drug/alcohol abusers.
The point is that instead of having to air a show to mourn the death of their previous employees every few months or years perhaps they should be proactive in screening these wrestlers while they in their employ.

Or perhaps they just don't give a shit and enjoy the big boost in ratings every time one of their previous employees drops dead in a hotel room.
That wouldn't surprise me.
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Aslanna wrote:I think we all know who looks like a retard in this thread.
Yes....Dimebag. I don't care for drug use. I still do not find it funny, amusing or anything of the sort when people throw around their drug use and thinks its cool, etc.

This case of a reformed user, makiing good by his family, working hard to entertain people everyday, trying to be a good person and sober for 4 years....is a far cry from a druggie rocker who even took on the name of his drug of choice and though it was neat.

Yes, I think we all know who looks like the retard. Like I said before, get over the fact I do not play your games in Current Events forum anymore. Grow up a smidge.
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Yes, I think we all know who looks like the retard. Like I said before, get over the fact I do not play your games in Current Events forum anymore. Grow up a smidge.
Leave it to you to miss the whole point. Here's a hint: It has nothing to do with drug use.

It doesn't matter which forum you post in you're still a clueless idiot.
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I don't care for drug use.
Yet you mourn the death of a druggie whos habit/addiction caused his death.

This case of a reformed user, makiing good by his family, working hard to entertain people everyday
Who, Darrell Abbott or Eddie Guerrero?

a far cry from a druggie rocker who even took on the name of his drug of choice and though it was neat.
For all you know of 'Dimebag', he could have been a recreational pot smoker.
Being a casual user of marijuana is a far cry from being an alcoholic addicted to steroids and pain killers. One is simply legally unacceptable, the other completely destroys your body.

His nickname is irrelevant.
Judging a person solely on their nickname is infantile and idiotic.

Take Chris Benoit as an example. His 'Canadian Crippler' nickname would indicate that he cripples people. That seems a bit more unflattering than a nickname about marijuana.
Or maybe the Ass Man or Mr. Ass... does that mean he likes anal sex? Doesn't homosexuality go against your god fearing ideals as well?
What about The Pimp. Prostitution and the exploitation of women is a far more heinous crime than smoking pot, yet one of your hero wrestlers has taken on the nickname of The Pimp and probably thinks 'its neat'.

I think we all know who looks like the retard.
You couldn't have proven that point any better.
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miir wrote:
I think we all know who looks like the retard.
You couldn't have proven that point any better.
I'm sure you're right.
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Am I the only one that thinks this guy looks like Tim Allen from Home Improvement?
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I think the sad thing..from my personal perspective...is that Eddie Guerrero left behind a wife and three young daughters. Yes, he abused himself and had his demons...no judgment calls from me. His hectic/hard life and schedule coupled with his years of drug and alcohol abuse led to his untimely death.

By all accounts he was a gracious and humble guy that dearly loved his family. He cleaned up his act and was clean and sober for 4 years...but the damage was already done. He loved what he did for a living and had the support and unconditional love of his family. I would feel the same sense of tragic loss if it were anyone that left a family behind far too soon. It is his family that I feel for...robbed of a lifetime with their father...regardless of the reason behind his death.
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miir wrote:
the point is that the WWE isnt going to screen employees no longer under their payroll.
No, the point is that when these guys were wrestling with the WCW/WWF they were heavy steriod and/or drug/alcohol abusers.
Farrel wrote: the company may have recently implemented stricter regulations in regards to drug-use, considering the decrease in drug-related fatalities with its current employees...Im certainly not questioning whether or not drug-use was rampant throughout pro-wrestling at one time.
miir wrote:The point is that instead of having to air a show to mourn the death of their previous employees every few months or years perhaps they should be proactive in screening these wrestlers while they in their employ.
Farrel wrote: the company may have recently implemented stricter regulations in regards to drug-use, considering the decrease in drug-related fatalities with its current employees...Im certainly not questioning whether or not drug-use was rampant throughout pro-wrestling at one time.
in regards to the first half, the WWE doesnt air specials in regards to the recently departed. its been traditional with this sports entertainment company, like any other, to acknowlege these events prior to and/or during a regularly scheduled event.
Or perhaps they just don't give a shit and enjoy the big boost in ratings every time one of their previous employees drops dead in a hotel room.
That wouldn't surprise me.
Im sure mcmahon and company really beat their dicks when one of their recent world champions/hardest working vets turns up dead due to work-induced stress and a former drug problem. Im sure the one-night minuscule 2-5% difference in ratings was really worth it.
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the company may have recently implemented stricter regulations in regards to drug-use, considering the decrease in drug-related fatalities with its current employees...Im certainly not questioning whether or not drug-use was rampant throughout pro-wrestling at one time.
The point is that instead of having to air a show to mourn the death of their previous employees every few months or years perhaps they should be proactive in screening these wrestlers while they in their employ.
May have?
Um, that's just your opinion, not fact.

Show me any proof that WWE has any sort of drug testing/screening.

And in all seriousness, there hasn't been any decrease in the number of WWE or ex WWF/WCW entertainers dropping dead from drug related causes in the past few years. It's actually a rather recent penomenon.

Im sure mcmahon and company really beat their dicks when one of their recent world champions/hardest working vets turns up dead due to work-induced stress and a former drug problem.
It's common knowledge that the guy is pretty dirty.
Their main concern is the bottom line.



My intent is not to detract from Eddie's death.. I'm just hoping that no more wrestlers and ex-wrestlers have to drop dead before the current crop of WWE performers get a fucking clue and lay off the drugs and steroids.
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Do they drug test actors in movies? TV Series? Why would they? Wrestlers are nothing more than physical actors. It's not a sport.
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wrestlers are actors.
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How many actors have dropped dead from steroid and drug abuse?
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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Do they drug test actors in movies? TV Series? Why would they? Wrestlers are nothing more than physical actors. It's not a sport.
Ah well, then it's ok for them to do whatever they want with their bodies. Not like they're musicians! Just say "I am a giant hypocrite" and all will be well.
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Dregor Thule wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Do they drug test actors in movies? TV Series? Why would they? Wrestlers are nothing more than physical actors. It's not a sport.
Ah well, then it's ok for them to do whatever they want with their bodies. Not like they're musicians! Just say "I am a giant hypocrite" and all will be well.
No see, "professional wrestlers" are forced to do drugs to achieve the requisite physique to be successful in their jobs, musicians are just pot smoking hippies.

By supporting wrestling of course, you don't support the drug abuse, and you're not a patriot if you draw such obvious outlandish conclusions.
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miir wrote:How many actors have dropped dead from steroid and drug abuse?

You really did not want to go this route in defending your argument. How about Jim Belushi, Chris Farley, River Phoenix, Elvis Presley, Judy Garland, Dana Plato, Lenny Bruce, Freddie Prinze...and I am sure we can come up with a whole lot more.



and you do not want to even begin on musicians.....
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