VeeshanVault

Posted: **September 9, 2005, 10:53 pm**

Okay so my oldest step daughter was giving an interesting assignment today. She has to pick out one song that represents a core democratic value such as truth, justice, liberty, freedom, diversity etc.

Also she has to design a CD cover to "sell" the artist, song, and idea. Part 2 is easy (hell my wife makes money as a graphic designer), but part 1 is a challenge for a few reasons:

-Most political songs that are positive in nature are from 100 years ago
-Her teacher (gotta be a repressed wannabe A&R twerp) specifically gave Marley as an example so they goes Bob and Ziggy, because 30 6th graders means 20 of them will be using them.
-Come on it has to be a little cool, and I already thought of Schoolhouse Rock stuff, and have it all but you know, there has to be better
- Most modern political songs are from bands that forgot they are musicians first, like U2.
- Oh yeah and to add to the difficulty I will have to edit the track it it has swearing and same with the lyrics sheet and censorship makes me feel bad inside.

I can think of thousands of protest songs, or songs of disillusionment... unless it is some god awful sell-grandmas-shotgun country song like "Proud to be an American." Any suggestions from the mostly free and diverse VV crew?

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 12:14 am**

Are The Good Times Really Over? Merle Haggard

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 12:30 am**

Umm Nilaman I am not sure it will work, we live north of the mason-dixon line.

heh, I would hope my step daughters never have to deal with anyone who thinks lines like Merle's are a good thing, I mean sheesh,

I wish Coke was still cola and a joint was a bad place to be.
It was back before Nixon lied to us all on TV.
Before Microwave ovens when a girl could still cook, and still would.
Is the best of the free life behind us now and are the good times really over for good ?

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 1:49 am**

Then tell them to do their own fucking homework!

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 2:00 am**

Kylere wrote:-Come on it has to be a little cool, and I already thought of Schoolhouse Rock stuff, and have it all but you know, there has to be better

Blasphemy! There is no better than Schoolhouse Rock.

Kylere wrote:- Most modern political songs are from bands that forgot they are musicians first, like U2.

U2 has always been political. Perhaps for them that's just as important as being 'musicians.'

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 2:18 am**

Let your child be a rebel and go for Rage Against the Machine.

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 3:35 am**

FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 3:58 am**

the greatest song ever written about america is shelter from the storm by the zimmer.

http://puddle.veeshanvault.org/Shelter- ... -Storm.MP3

the second greatest is THESE COLORS DON'T RUN by TOBY KEITH

its about FREEDOM

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 3:59 am**

I keep trying to figure out a way to make Alices Restaurant fit into the theme of the assignment, in the hope that your stepdaughter could somehow trick them into trying to play a song in class that goes on longer than the class itself...

It does involve the draft, if that helps?

*Hugs*
Varia

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 4:01 am**

arlo guthrie didnt sing songs about america, he sang songs about COMMUNISM

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 4:21 am**

kyoukan wrote: the second greatest is THESE COLORS DON'T RUN by TOBY KEITH

its about FREEDOM

I'm three sheets to the wind but am impressed with your first linked suggestion.

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 5:13 am**

Thats kinda like loving taxes.... if you always get a return, you know its a good idea.. if not... your fucked

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 5:32 am**

For people that have never seen the full lyrics of our (U.S.) national anthem:

Star Spangled Banner

Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, now conceals, now discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! O long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wiped out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 1:22 pm**

Its old but Buffalo Springfield - "For What its Worth". Hell i was rootin for the guys with the hard hats back then, but that song made ME wanna protest something...

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 1:27 pm**

Aenima

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 1:39 pm**

http://www.funfreepages.com/flash/america_fuck_yeah.php

(has swearing, old as hell too)

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 1:47 pm**

Pick one of the easy songs and get over it.

This assignment is bullshit, and so is your step child's teacher. Basically she's forcing the kids to love america, and then telling them to try to make profits off of it. Training today's youth to encourage what it's country is doing, regardless of how inhumane and devious it may be. Total crap. Get her fired.

Yeah I'm overreacting, but I don't care.

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 3:06 pm**

Check out songs by Michael Franti & Spearhead.

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 5:12 pm**

This assignment is bullshit, and so is your step child's teacher. Basically she's forcing the kids to love america, and then telling them to try to make profits off of it. Training today's youth to encourage what it's country is doing, regardless of how inhumane and devious it may be. Total crap. Get her fired.

I thought the teacher was showing how commercialized our country is, and to demonstrate that, gave the kids this task as a way to show them how social norms and values can be packaged and sold. Kinda funny, since my take was the exact opposite of yours.

Best song for this project would be "Bulls on Parade" by Rage Against the Machine! Although Kyoukan's song was also appropriate

Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes
Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
I walk tha corner to tha rubble that used to be a library
Line up to tha mind cemetary now
What we don't know keeps tha contracts alive an movin'
They don't gotta burn tha books they just remove 'em
While arms warehouses fill as quick as tha cells
Rally round tha family, pockets full of shells

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 5:21 pm**

Rellix,

The last time I checked, which has admittedly been some years now, the motto of the National School Board was: Education through democracy, democracy through education.

I wish I could have skipped K-12 and just started with college. Other than learning to read or write, most of the first 12 years was a waste of time.

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 5:47 pm**

A song about Freedom, Liberty , Diversity etc...

Just pick one from Landser Marches 2!

Les Preludes 0:23
Pariser Einzugsmarsch 2:23
Armistice & Victory Bells over France 1940 (choral) 1:13
Deutschland über alles (choral) 2:49
Soldatenlied Potpourri (choral) 3:06
Marsch aus Petersburg 2:54
König Karl Marsch 2:49
Egerländer Marsch 3:03
Preussens Gloria Heeresmarsch 2:51
Reichswehr Marsch 2:36
Potpourri (choral) 2:28
Ich bin der Bub von Westerwald (choral) 3:13
Düppeler Schanzen Sturmmarsch 2:35
Alexander marsch 2:43
Lili marlene (choral) 3:02
Im Rhythmus der Zeit/Tanzlieder 3:42
Pepita marsch 3:12
Liebling, wenn ich traurig bin (choral) 3:12
Marsch des hassischen Kreisregiments 2:46
Westerwald Marsch (choral) 3:26
Kölner Funken Infantrie Marsch 2:41
Jägerlieder 3:13
Reserve hat Ruh (choral0 2:32
Radetzky Marsch 3:13
Bataillion Garde 2:52
Wacht am Rhein 2:27

You've never seen a military music CD like this!

You will hear these rare inspiring historical songs and marches of the Third Reich just as the German radio & record playing public did!
Digitally re-mastered for your listening pleasure on CD.
LANDSER MARCHES NAZI GERMAN MILITARY
MARCH MUSIC AND SONGS ON CD

JUST KIDDING!

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 7:08 pm**

noel wrote:Rellix,

The last time I checked, which has admittedly been some years now, the motto of the National School Board was: Education through democracy, democracy through education.

I wish I could have skipped K-12 and just started with college. Other than learning to read or write, most of the first 12 years was a waste of time.

While I agree with most of k-12 being silly, Noel, you prove yourself to be an ignorant fuck by tossing out the ability to read and write as being a minimal skill, but considering your command of the language that does not surprise me.

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 7:16 pm**

Rellix wrote:Pick one of the easy songs and get over it.

This assignment is bullshit, and so is your step child's teacher. Basically she's forcing the kids to love america, and then telling them to try to make profits off of it. Training today's youth to encourage what it's country is doing, regardless of how inhumane and devious it may be. Total crap. Get her fired.

Yeah I'm overreacting, but I don't care.

Wow rellix. That almost hurt my brain that was so moronic.
If the children live in america, then perhaps they should learn how america works? sound like a good idea to teach children the basics of comercialism in a comercial society? And yes. They better be trying to teach the children to LOVE AMERICA!

Posted: **September 10, 2005, 7:58 pm**

Toby Keith and Willie Nelson - Beer for my horses

Artist/Band: Keith Toby
Lyrics for Song: Beer for My Horses
Lyrics for Album: Greatest Hits 2
Well a man come on the 6 o'clock news
Said somebody's been shot, somebody's been abused
Somebody blew up a building
Somebody stole a car
Somebody got away
Somebody didn't get too far yeah
They didn't get too far

Grandpappy told my pappy, back in my day, son
A man had to answer for the wicked that he done
Take all the rope in Texas
Find a tall oak tree, round up all of them bad boys
Hang them high in the street for all the people to see that

(Chorus)
Justice is the one thing you should always find
You got to saddle up your boys
You got to draw a hard line
When the gun smoke settles we'll sing a victory tune
We'll all meet back at the local saloon
We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces
Singing whiskey for my men, beer for my horses

We got too many gangsters doing dirty deeds
We've got too much corruption, and crime in the streets
It's time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground
Send 'em all to their maker and he'll settle 'em down
You can bet he'll set 'em down 'cause

(Chorus x2)

hehe, must be something I got from my mom when I was growing up, because I can't get enough Willie

Posted: **September 11, 2005, 2:31 am**

noel wrote:I wish I could have skipped K-12 and just started with college. Other than learning to read or write, most of the first 12 years was a waste of time.

Completely agree - most of it really was a waste of time. I did use the time to make some lasting friends... oh wait, we all went to different colleges. Thanks public school system!

Noysyrump wrote:Wow rellix. That almost hurt my brain that was so moronic.
If the children live in america, then perhaps they should learn how america works? sound like a good idea to teach children the basics of comercialism in a comercial society? And yes. They better be trying to teach the children to LOVE AMERICA!

Like a single god damn thing you've ever posted on these forums was worth a shit, but I'll get to that some other time.

I agree with the idea that they should learn how commercial America works, but I don't think they should be taught how to exploit it. Sure, that's how our country is run now, but why should we keep forcing our kids to live it out? So "Dad" can retire off his son's ill-achieved wealth?

Furthermore, what's this shit about "They better be trying to teach the children to LOVE AMERICA!" - are you off your meds? Sure, encourage it to an extent, but don't force them to find a purely America-Loving song and sell it. Let them make up their own minds and form their own opinions about their country. Let them find their rebellious songs if they want.

If I were ever forced by a teacher (or anyone for that matter) to "love" America or pay consequences (in this case a grade), regardless of my opinion towards the country, they would get a nice little request to back off. That reminds me, back when I was in high school, a teacher yelled violently at a class (and particularly at a specific student) to hold hand over heart and say the pledge.

He was fired.

Posted: **September 11, 2005, 2:43 am**

so you guys think you would have been better off in college without being able to read and write and do basic thinking and writing skills, much less how to socially interact with large groups of people in a structured envoronment had you not gone to school?

Posted: **September 12, 2005, 3:52 am**

I'd have to say most of the time spent in school really was helpful. Its around 9th or 10th grade that it starts to get pointless. I had maybe 3 or 4 classes after 9th grade that actually taught me something useful.

American History (10th grade) learned quite a bit about life from my teacher, but really not too much history, in 10th grade, Chemistry (11th), Math in Society (11th) which mostly just taught me how to balance a checkbook and how credit works, and Government\Economics (12th) because my teacher made like $100,000 a year or more on a teachers salary and military retirement through the stock market and renting out houses he aquired over the years.

Posted: **September 12, 2005, 3:55 am**

What are you doing out of your drug thread? Bad Asheran, bad!

Posted: **September 12, 2005, 8:25 am**

freedom costs a buck-o-five ~ team america world police soundtrack

or some pink floyd, i dunno, there's a lot of old songs with some political issuse in them

and i would have to disagree with the k-12 bein a waste of time, i went to a private school, and now im finding a lot of college courses really easy or a naptime class

Posted: **September 12, 2005, 10:10 am**

I liked K-12. I didn't like Engrish class. It conflicted with my immigrant parent's broken English. Public school was fun. I can't think of any reason at all why I'd want to have skipped all the stuff I did while in K-12. I probably had more fun during early years of school than in College. Or maybe it was a different kind of fun because then it was mostly stuff I wasn't supposed to be doing while in College I'd come of age etc.

Posted: **September 12, 2005, 1:28 pm**

eh, throw some twisted view crap back at the teacher for giving such a fucked assignment.

Something like: Megadeath, Peace Sells

Or Metallica, One

Posted: **September 12, 2005, 1:44 pm**

Take a song with nonsensical lyrics and interpret them to fit your needs.

Wire : Kidney Bingos

Natural splits sunburn jets price marks smart bets
Strikers luck pitch backs heap tips pit slacks
Dressed pints demon shrinks bread drunk dead drinks
Stretch clubs models box draw skin black shocks

Money spines paper lung kidney bingos organ fun

Flag stunt rock stone dole axe crash dive
Breathe thrift take speed double take weekends
Skull row drugs hall colour bars sex calls
Sparkle finds rented rings pretty things clipped wings

Gold street spy fleet scandal food poor treat
Fire run club gun rule mob burn some
Bomb time pop crime stock frame steady climb
Fresh name donor game fair meat all the same

Posted: **September 13, 2005, 1:03 pm**

Rellix Burn me, I cry.

Posted: **September 13, 2005, 1:36 pm**

i would pick bright eyes 'when the president talks to god,' specifically the performance from the tonight show.

When the president talks to God
Are the conversations brief or long?
Does he ask to rape our women’s' rights
And send poor farm kids off to die?
Does God suggest an oil hike
When the president talks to God?

despite the stupidity of the song, the mere fact that he can write, release, and perform the song on national television is a testament to creative and artistic freedom.

ps fuck conor oberst.

Posted: **September 13, 2005, 4:22 pm**

America...
America...
America, FUCK YEAH!
Coming again, to save the mother fucking day yeah,
America, FUCK YEAH!
Freedom is the only way yeah,
Terrorist your game is through cause now you have to answer too,
America, FUCK YEAH!
So lick my butt, and suck on my balls,
America, FUCK YEAH!
What you going to do when we come for you now,
it?s the dream that we all share; it?s the hope for tomorrow

FUCK YEAH!

McDonalds, FUCK YEAH!
Wal-Mart, FUCK YEAH!
The Gap, FUCK YEAH!
Baseball, FUCK YEAH!
NFL, FUCK, YEAH!
Rock and roll, FUCK YEAH!
The Internet, FUCK YEAH!
Slavery, FUCK YEAH!

FUCK YEAH!

Starbucks, FUCK YEAH!
Disney world, FUCK YEAH!
Porno, FUCK YEAH!
Valium, FUCK YEAH!
Reeboks, FUCK YEAH!
Fake Tits, FUCK YEAH!
Sushi, FUCK YEAH!
Taco Bell, FUCK YEAH!
Rodeos, FUCK YEAH!
Bed bath and beyond (Fuck yeah, Fuck yeah)

Liberty, FUCK YEAH!
White Slips, FUCK YEAH!
The Alamo, FUCK YEAH!
Band-aids, FUCK YEAH!
Las Vegas, FUCK YEAH!
Christmas, FUCK YEAH!
Immigrants, FUCK YEAH!
Columbine, FUCK YEAH!
Democrats, FUCK YEAH!
Republicans (republicans)
(fuck yeah, fuck yeah)

Posted: **September 13, 2005, 4:31 pm**

If I was president,
I'd get elected on Friday, assasinated on Saturday,
and buried on Sunday.

If I was president...
If I was president

An old man told me, instead of spending billions on the war,
we can use some of that money, in the ghetto.
I know some so poor, they use the spring as the shower,
when screaming "fight the power".
That's when the vulture devoured

If I was president,
I'd get elected on Friday, assasinated on Saturday,
and buried on Sunday.

If I was president...
If I was president...
If I was president...
If I was president

But the radio won't play this.
They call this rebel music.
How can you refuse it, children of moses?

If I was president,
I'd get elected on Friday, assasinated on Saturday,
and buried on Sunday.

If I was president...
If i was president

Tell the children the truth, the truth.
Christopher Columbus didn't discover America.
Tell them the truth.
The truth
YEAH! Tell them about Marcus Garvey.
The truth YEAH! The truth.
Tell them about Martin Luther King.
Tell them the truth.
The Truth.
Tell them about JFK

If I was President
If I was president,
I'd get elected on Friday, assasinated on Saturday,
and buried on Sunday.

If I was president...
If I was president

Posted: **September 13, 2005, 10:21 pm**

Did Wycleff write that song or remade it?

Posted: **September 14, 2005, 12:25 am**

I like Big Butts by Sir Mix a lot

A+ material

Posted: **September 14, 2005, 8:05 am**

Cartalas wrote:I like Big Butts by Sir Mix a lot

A+ material

shit man i just burst out laughing in the second day of being in the library computer room for this class and I got the class stopped for a good 5min

Posted: **September 14, 2005, 9:12 am**

I want to thank the majority of you for proving yourselves to be fucking morons, and thank the few with a clue.

Posted: **September 14, 2005, 9:15 am**

Kylere wrote:I want to thank the majority of you for proving yourselves to be fucking morons, and thank the few with a clue.

Dont be to hard on yourself!!!

Posted: **September 14, 2005, 9:43 am**

I want to thank the majority of you for proving yourselves to be fucking morons

Was there ever any doubt?

VeeshanVault

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Gotta go with Trey and Matt...

or teh Wyclef...