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Are there any decent web hosts out there that will just serve a farking web page instead of wanting control of your entire domain and setting up shitty webmail and other crap I don't want?

I don't need dns, smtp/pop/imap, etc, I just want a box that will let me ftp up a website and respond to http(s).

Zaelath wrote:Are there any decent web hosts out there that will just serve a farking web page instead of wanting control of your entire domain and setting up shitty webmail and other crap I don't want?

I don't need dns, smtp/pop/imap, etc, I just want a box that will let me ftp up a website and respond to http(s).

There's tons of them.

godaddy.com sells cheap domain names and then you can use it wherever you find the best host service.

There was a thread on this earlier. I've got an account with Powweb which I'm happy with. 10GB/day 300gb/month bandwidth for $7.77month. The nice thing about them is they include ten FTP accounts which is usually enough for your friends etc. 5 MySQL databases, you can host several domains with the 5gb of space they give you. They have very active support forums which is key. If there's a problem, it's out in the open right away. I tested the download speeds from their server with good results (I was getting 7-9Mbps)

Here's the stuff to compare to other hosts:

http://powweb.com/PowWeb/OnePlan/Detail

They have a buy one year at 7.77/month and get 6 months free for a total of 18 months which is pretty damn cheap for 5GB webspace, a fast pipe and all the crap listed in the link above. I'd recommend buying your domain name at godaddy.com though and setup anonymous service so the world doesn't get all your private info on an IP lookup.

Has all the stuff you want if you ever decide to create a dynamic web but you don't have to use any of it although it's all there just in case. A nice way around using FTP accounts is just password protecting an http folder. This works well for people/friends that aren't computer savvy. It's easier to give a website address along with a username and password instead of explain FTP to them.

Winnow wrote: There was a thread on this earlier.

Yeah, I looked at that, but most of the hosts there started their FAQs with "Once you've delegated your domain to our DNS servers" which is exactly what I don't want to do.

I have DNS services that I'm quite happy with, I just want to put in an A record pointing http://www.domain.example to an IP.

And, powweb is the same shit http://kb.powweb.com/questions/287/Poin ... -to-PowWeb

If you originally registered your domain name elsewhere, you will have to "point" your domain to our name servers before it will work with your PowWeb account.

Zaelath wrote: I have DNS services that I'm quite happy with, I just want to put in an A record pointing http://www.domain.example to an IP.

And, powweb is the same shit http://kb.powweb.com/questions/287/Poin ... -to-PowWeb

If you originally registered your domain name elsewhere, you will have to "point" your domain to our name servers before it will work with your PowWeb account.

What's the big deal with pointing your domain to wherever you host? I'd rather pay godaddy 8 bucks a year than 15 somewhere else. It takes 48 hours to update DNS servers whenever you repoint domains. I think it's best to keep your domain registered wherever you feel comfortable. IF you don't want to use your current domain, they provide a temp address seconds after you buy a package that you can use and not worry about a domain name at all...something like

http://yourdomainname.temp.powweb.com/

and another one for secure site:

https://yourdomainname.secure.powweb.com/

you can make up any name and never actually transfer a domain I suppose. Don't know why you wouldn't just buy a 3 dollar one at godaddy though.

I *have* a domain, it's currently only used for email services, I simply want to add a web site to the existing domain. So, godaddy etc don't come into it.

The domain is currently delegated to dyndns.org, which has multple (5) DNS servers in different geographic locations and has proven to be reliable and fantastically responsive with DNS changes (you enter the new IP in their web interface and as long as your TTL has expired it resolves near instantaneously). I don't want to delegate the whole domain to some web hosting company's DNS servers that have all of 2 servers, both of which are on the same LAN if not the same machine:

[]# host ns2.powweb.com ns3.powweb.com
Using domain server:
Name: ns3.powweb.com
Address: 66.152.97.3#53
Aliases:

ns2.powweb.com has address 66.152.97.4

You're on your own! : )

DNS issues aren't that common. Propagate and forget about it for the most part.

Unless you're CNN.COM, I don't see a need for 5 DNS servers. Something else is bound to go wrong before a DNS server craps out although it can happen.

Are you serving up pron or something that's going to give your site like eleventybillion hits and overload two servers that can handle just a shade less than eleventybillion?

Nah, nothing like that. DNS hosting is just a service I don't want from a webhost.

The email routing for this client is non-trivial; their exchange server doesn't even listen on SMTP (25), it listens on a non-standard port so it's buffered from direct spam injection jackasses that don't bother with MX lookups.

The actual MX's don't even point at the client, they point at a couple of intermediate virus/spam filtering mail servers that vet all their email and pass it along on the non-standard port to their exchange server. (running something a little more robust than MS shite)

Email is a more important service to these people than their (previously non-existant) web site, so we're not going to hand DNS to someone that does it as a sideline.

Anyway, thanks for the input =)

Other than the TLD keepers and people offering dynamic services (and they're pretty recent) no one does DNS for a living... Never have.

It's pretty much idiot proof, once the records propagate it doesn't really matter who holds it. You do want them all in one spot though.

Edit - You're going to pay extra, the reason they want to "take over" the domain is so they can lump you in with everyone else on a big server. Your external record would point to the same IP as 500 other sites and be redirected by name.

Aabidano wrote:Other than the TLD keepers and people offering dynamic services (and they're pretty recent) no one does DNS for a living... Never have.

It's pretty much idiot proof, once the records propagate it doesn't really matter who holds it. You do want them all in one spot though.

Edit - You're going to pay extra, the reason they want to "take over" the domain is so they can lump you in with everyone else on a big server. Your external record would point to the same IP as 500 other sites and be redirected by name.

Me hosting the DNS elsewhere doesn't preclude name hosting.

Nope, but you're also not using the standard packages they offer cheaply.

Well, kinda.. the return on investment of looking around for what I wanted drops off rapidly, so I've got a standard package and basically ignored their DNS (other than setting the MX record which will only be read by the webhost anyway)

It's just strange that no one must want a web host external to their mail server...

(the server's on a fixed IP, I just adjusted my DNS)

Dunno, I've never worked with a business that used an external provider for that sort of stuff.

I wouldn't colocate web and mail services, mail gatekeeper, external DNS and webserver front end usually hang in a DMZ and do a handoff to internal systems or another screening layer.

i do web hosting, and can accomodate... if you're interested.