Snake > Kangaroo (OMFG)
Posted: June 6, 2005, 8:45 am
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Posted: June 6, 2005, 10:18 am
That is supe cool looking, especially the last part where just the legs are sticking out, gives new meaning to the old danish proverb "ædt med hud og hår" (something like eaten with skin and hair), this is at leats very literal hehe
Posted: June 6, 2005, 11:10 am
man snakes rule so hard
Posted: June 6, 2005, 12:14 pm
Cool. Thatll teach those pesky kangaroos.
Posted: June 6, 2005, 1:20 pm
Hrmmmmmm wonder what killed the Roo...
Posted: June 6, 2005, 3:32 pm
pics are gone...
Posted: June 6, 2005, 6:49 pm
talk about a tummy ache...
Posted: June 6, 2005, 8:07 pm
THE POWER OF CONSTRICTION, SIR!Arborealus wrote:Hrmmmmmm wonder what killed the Roo...
Posted: June 6, 2005, 8:12 pm
I think that may be a Diamond Python, which are endangered now. They grow to about 3 meters long. I really do not know much about the reptiles in Australia though--they have many.
Posted: June 6, 2005, 11:20 pm
Well Morelia spilota sp certainly, I'd say a Carpet not a Diamond markings look like the carpets I saw in Lamington...still, a Roo'd be pretty tough to take down maybe its a lil Potteroo...I wish there were something in the pic giving better sense of scale...
Posted: June 6, 2005, 11:36 pm
Ah yeah, the markings look more like a carpet python. I have seen somewhat similar markings on a Diamond, but you are probably right. I was not sure how large the Carpets get. I cannot believe that it was a very large 'roo though, since most pythons normally eat nothing bigger than a chicken, but I guess there can always be an exception. 
Posted: June 6, 2005, 11:38 pm
i thought some of them in afraica eat deer sometimes?
Posted: June 7, 2005, 12:04 am
You can't see the head in any photos either, which makes it harder to identify.. perhaps it could be anything down to a hopping mouse given lack of other references.Arborealus wrote:Well Morelia spilota sp certainly, I'd say a Carpet not a Diamond markings look like the carpets I saw in Lamington...still, a Roo'd be pretty tough to take down maybe its a lil Potteroo...I wish there were something in the pic giving better sense of scale...
Definitely not a full grown roo, the claws on their feet are .. large.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 12:06 am
Some South american Anacondas can get around 10 meters and have been known to eat large mammals. Not sure about Africa, but they have some big constrictors out there that may be able to handle a deer! I used to know a pretty good amount about snake species around the world, but my amateur herpetology years are far behind me. =/
I think I will let Arb field that one!
I think I will let Arb field that one!
Posted: June 7, 2005, 12:10 am
Australia is more your vicious venemous bastard snakes, than your monster pythons. We certainly have a few pythons, but more your carpet than your anaconda.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 12:13 am
Death Adder ftw!
Yall got quite a variety of nasties down there.
Yall got quite a variety of nasties down there.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 8:24 am
i knew a snake could un-hinge their jaw, but that looked like he was eatting from his neck
Posted: June 7, 2005, 10:10 am
Canelek wrote:Death Adder ftw!
Death Adder Fight the World?
Posted: June 7, 2005, 10:12 am
for the win
Get with the hip lingo, girlfriend.
Get with the hip lingo, girlfriend.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 1:05 pm
I have seen photos of Anacondas eating mules...But they get 9ish meters and 200kg...
The Asian Pythons get longer Reticulated gets 1OM but is much more slender on average than Anaconda...Burmese also get substantial...
African Pythons don't get much over 5M...but can take a good sized meal...
What they can ingest never suprises me...But when a photo like this I often think "set up" (ie the photographer killed/found the "prey" and coaxed the snake into eating it (which if you've dealt much with snakes you know isn't hard to do). Big prey is very dangerous to a snake.
The Asian Pythons get longer Reticulated gets 1OM but is much more slender on average than Anaconda...Burmese also get substantial...
African Pythons don't get much over 5M...but can take a good sized meal...
What they can ingest never suprises me...But when a photo like this I often think "set up" (ie the photographer killed/found the "prey" and coaxed the snake into eating it (which if you've dealt much with snakes you know isn't hard to do). Big prey is very dangerous to a snake.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 3:04 pm
ive seen a pic before of an anaconda owning the shit out of an alligator. just wish i could remember where.
constricting snakes scare the bejeesus outta me. i can deal with cobras and the like, venom seems like a (relatively) painless death. call me soft, but the whole idea of getting eaten while being asphyxiated throws me off a little...
constricting snakes scare the bejeesus outta me. i can deal with cobras and the like, venom seems like a (relatively) painless death. call me soft, but the whole idea of getting eaten while being asphyxiated throws me off a little...
Posted: June 7, 2005, 3:06 pm
Actually, the poison of most 'deadly' snakes such as pit-vipers, elapids and the like are quite nasty neurotoxins. Relatively painless? Nope.
edit: meant elapids, not colubrids.
A short blurb on venoms:
edit: meant elapids, not colubrids.
A short blurb on venoms:
Venom is a very complex mixture of proteins and toxins. Snakes use their venom to immobilise, and in some cases, digest their prey, which consists mainly of rodents, frogs, birds and smaller snakes. After a snake strikes its venom goes to work very quickly and effects the heart, the lungs, the muscles or the red blood cells. Venoms are divided into three categories: 1) hemotoxic - damages blood vessels and promotes haemorrhage 2) neurotoxic - paralyses the heart and respiration 3) myotoxic - causes severe muscular pain. In some cases a combination of effects occurs. Cobras and Coral snakes are said to have the most potent neurotoxic venom, the latter literally liquefying tissue, especially the flesh closest to the snakebite. Cottonmouth venom causes fatal haemorrhaging in all organs of the body if an antidote isn’t administered on time. Scientists continue to study the intricacies of snake venoms. Some have already been put to use as painkillers for various chronic or terminal conditions and as coagulants for haemophiliacs.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 3:23 pm
'cause the venom of most colubrids is non-existent 
bah they make cottonmouth venom sound horribly dangerous...which it is if you're a mouse or bunny...non treated cottonmouth bites are very seldom lethal as are most Crotalid bites...hell, snakes seldom inject significant venom in defense bites unless the snake is repeatedly agitated...
Evenomed bites do tend to be very painful and cause a good bit of tissue damage in the bite area though...
bah they make cottonmouth venom sound horribly dangerous...which it is if you're a mouse or bunny...non treated cottonmouth bites are very seldom lethal as are most Crotalid bites...hell, snakes seldom inject significant venom in defense bites unless the snake is repeatedly agitated...
Evenomed bites do tend to be very painful and cause a good bit of tissue damage in the bite area though...
Posted: June 7, 2005, 3:26 pm
I tried to edit before you caught that, bastard!
Posted: June 7, 2005, 10:21 pm
Yeah, don't make that confusion in Australia. The first white guy to see a Taipan died of the bite (he was a herpetologist). The tiger snakes will quite literally chew on your arm to inject enough venom that you're wanting antivenin quickly and you'll still look dead for a while.Arborealus wrote:'cause the venom of most colubrids is non-existent
bah they make cottonmouth venom sound horribly dangerous...which it is if you're a mouse or bunny...non treated cottonmouth bites are very seldom lethal as are most Crotalid bites...hell, snakes seldom inject significant venom in defense bites unless the snake is repeatedly agitated...
Evenomed bites do tend to be very painful and cause a good bit of tissue damage in the bite area though...
Fortunately, they don't hang around populated areas that much. That's where the farking spiders live =)
Posted: June 8, 2005, 2:10 pm
Yeah but aussie snakes are pansiesZaelath wrote:Yeah, don't make that confusion in Australia. The first white guy to see a Taipan died of the bite (he was a herpetologist). The tiger snakes will quite literally chew on your arm to inject enough venom that you're wanting antivenin quickly and you'll still look dead for a while.Arborealus wrote:'cause the venom of most colubrids is non-existent
bah they make cottonmouth venom sound horribly dangerous...which it is if you're a mouse or bunny...non treated cottonmouth bites are very seldom lethal as are most Crotalid bites...hell, snakes seldom inject significant venom in defense bites unless the snake is repeatedly agitated...
Evenomed bites do tend to be very painful and cause a good bit of tissue damage in the bite area though...
Fortunately, they don't hang around populated areas that much. That's where the farking spiders live =)
...Only cranky one I ran into was a Red-Bellied Black in the Blue Mtns area and he was pretty much just posturing puffing and hissing...The Tigers were kittens...