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I hate interviews, Part 2 (Progress)
Posted: June 3, 2005, 12:20 am
by Canelek
OK, I stressed and sweated through 2 interviews via phone on Wednesday. Both of them went very well and both have gone to the next level.
Phase 2.1: WTF Financial-Senior DBA/Architect - 1 fucking hour phone interview on Monday or Tuesday. Dios Mio, 1 fucking hour on the phone? FFs.
Phase 2.2: WTF2 Financial-Senior DBA - On-site interview for sometime next week. OK. I like face-to-face interviews. Not sure what to expect though.
I hate interviews.
However, both positions are paying $$$ like 75-90K range. Fuck yeah if I pull this off....been sweating my ass off for only like 11 years ffs.
Re: I hate interviews, Part 2 (Progress)
Posted: June 3, 2005, 12:40 am
by Zaelath
Canelek wrote:
Phase 2.1: Wilshire Financial-Senior DBA/Architect - 1 fucking hour phone interview on Monday or Tuesday. Dios Mio, 1 fucking hour on the phone? FFs.
That's the longer than I've ever talked on the phone to anyone I wasn't interested in sleeping with (hint for the ladies there)
Posted: June 3, 2005, 2:33 am
by Canelek
Interesting indeed....
Posted: June 3, 2005, 3:41 am
by Winnow
Good luck!
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Posted: June 3, 2005, 9:46 am
by Sylvos
haha u r going 2 fail lollz
he will c u & go lollz no! k thx bye!
and u will go =(
lollz
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on serious note:
is this in Beaverton or downtown Portland?
Posted: June 3, 2005, 9:55 am
by Kguku
A 1 hour phone interview I wouldn't say is all that uncommon for scheduling for - if it exceeds the hour then you can pretty much be assured that it went decently at least. I know for the job I'm currently in the phone interview was close to 90 minutes long.
The only tips I can give you for something that long is make sure you sit someplace with all distractions gone - tv off, etc etc. It's just far too tempting to flip it on for background noise. That and take notes of questions you want to ask or things you want clarified or things that peak your interest. It helps you maintain focus during that time. It's definately not easy to focus when you're just on the phone. Oh also keep a glass or bottle of water with you there, as you'll need it if you're yapping that long.
Posted: June 3, 2005, 10:27 am
by Deward
I have been on hiring committees at my current job and the phone interview is usually 30-60 minutes. Most interviews go long because the candidates talk way too much. We had one candidate that just would not shut up and ended up taking 90 minutes for a 30 minute scripted interview. In most cases the interviewers want to finish as fast as you do. I am not saying to give one or two word answers to questions but when they ask for an example, only give one example not a half dozen. Also don't stare at your hands and fidget. If you are nervous then clasp your hands together tightly. I always focus my eyes on the person's forehead and change my target often from one side of the room to the other.
Posted: June 3, 2005, 12:01 pm
by Marbus
Good luck Canno!
Hey if you want a DBA job back in AR let me know... We could easily get into that range for a good DBA AND... AND we have MORE data and more processing power than anyone but the Federal Gov.... would be a lot of fun
Not to mention the cost of living in AR is much cheaper than the West Coast... lots of good fishing close to Conway as well
Marb
Posted: June 3, 2005, 12:59 pm
by Seebs
Canno, get back in game and fucking level, that will help you out.
As for working at Axciyumm ... bring it. We own the hayseeds that are our co-workers.
I make like 15K a year and am the richest guy in my trailer park. I get off for deer season as well.
You'll be fine. If not, at least tehy now have your resume on file!
Re: I hate interviews, Part 2 (Progress)
Posted: June 3, 2005, 4:16 pm
by Sirensa
Canelek wrote:However, both positions are paying $$$ like 75-90K range. Fuck yeah if I pull this off...
IMO if you get hired, you should buy me Gustavs!! (Sylvos not required!)

Re: I hate interviews, Part 2 (Progress)
Posted: June 3, 2005, 4:20 pm
by Cartalas
Canelek wrote:OK, I stressed and sweated through 2 interviews via phone on Wednesday. Both of them went very well and both have gone to the next level.
Phase 2.1: WTF Financial-Senior DBA/Architect - 1 fucking hour phone interview on Monday or Tuesday. Dios Mio, 1 fucking hour on the phone? FFs.
Phase 2.2: WTF2 Financial-Senior DBA - On-site interview for sometime next week. OK. I like face-to-face interviews. Not sure what to expect though.
I hate interviews.
However, both positions are paying $$$ like 75-90K range. Fuck yeah if I pull this off....been sweating my ass off for only like 11 years ffs.
Why is it that you are always looking for a job?
Re: I hate interviews, Part 2 (Progress)
Posted: June 3, 2005, 5:10 pm
by Aslanna
Cartalas wrote:Canelek wrote:However, both positions are paying $$$ like 75-90K range. Fuck yeah if I pull this off....been sweating my ass off for only like 11 years ffs.
Why is it that you are always looking for a job?
Maybe he's looking to.. you know.. advance and stuff. There's nothing wrong with that. I have a job yet I'm still looking for better things out there.
Re: I hate interviews, Part 2 (Progress)
Posted: June 3, 2005, 5:29 pm
by Canoe
Cartalas wrote:Canelek wrote:
However, both positions are paying $$$ like 75-90K range. Fuck yeah if I pull this off....been sweating my ass off for only like 11 years ffs.
Why is it that you are always looking for a job?
My opinion has always been you aren't very smart if you aren't keeping your ear to the ground (unless of course you have your "dream" job - which is few and far between).
In the past 5 years i've switched jobs 3 times, just because i've kept my ear to the ground, and in the meantime, increased my pay by 33,000, and have a MUCH better and less stressful job than the past 2. Both jobs were good jobs, paid the bills etc, even paid pretty darn good to start with, but if I hadn't been watching for something new, I wouldn't have gotten the one I have today

Posted: June 3, 2005, 5:59 pm
by Canelek
In this case, I do not currently have a job, but yeah, it is amazing how much better of a situation you can be in if you keep your eyes open.
Posted: June 3, 2005, 6:30 pm
by noel
In the IT field especially, it is often far easier to advance yourself in pay and job title/responsibility by taking a new job.
I can understand the question though Cart... with you working at Taco Bell, I wouldn't expect that to be common knowledge.
Posted: June 3, 2005, 7:22 pm
by Canoe
noel wrote:In the IT field especially, it is often far easier to advance yourself in pay and job title/responsibility by taking a new job.
I can understand the question though Cart... with you working at Taco Bell, I wouldn't expect that to be common knowledge.
It's going to take hours to get all the beer out of my keyboard after laughing in the middle of a drink at that. Nice work Noel, nice work.
Posted: June 4, 2005, 9:34 am
by Cartalas
noel wrote:In the IT field especially, it is often far easier to advance yourself in pay and job title/responsibility by taking a new job.
I can understand the question though Cart... with you working at Taco Bell, I wouldn't expect that to be common knowledge.
Ohh Noel taking it back old school what you failed to tell them is I amd your supervisor now Shut Up and clean out the talking trashcans!!!
Posted: June 6, 2005, 12:34 pm
by Atokal
noel wrote:In the IT field especially, it is often far easier to advance yourself in pay and job title/responsibility by taking a new job.
I can understand the question though Cart... with you working at Taco Bell, I wouldn't expect that to be common knowledge.
Noel, Taco Bell? HAR
Interviewer to Noel: We would like to hire you for this position your title will be keyboard administrator, you get a cool headset and get to manage all the keys on your "expanded" keyboard. How does that sound?
Noel: Um I am already a keyboard administrator, but if you change the title to keyboard engineer and throw in those handy dandy foam covers for the headset I am your man.
Interviewer: Done.
Noel posts on VV: Hey folks I just got a new job with a great title and more responsibility. Having a photo shoot this afternoon will post picts tomorrow.
Posted: June 6, 2005, 1:09 pm
by Tyek
The only tips I can give you for something that long is make sure you sit someplace with all distractions gone - tv off, etc etc. It's just far too tempting to flip it on for background noise. That and take notes of questions you want to ask or things you want clarified or things that peak your interest. It helps you maintain focus during that time. It's definately not easy to focus when you're just on the phone. Oh also keep a glass or bottle of water with you there, as you'll need it if you're yapping that long.
Great suggestions. I would also recommend a web site visit. You sound so much better when you have seen their site. Know there stock performance, really research the company. It sounds good when you say, "I noticed you have the 3rd largest market share of ..., what are the company plans to not only maintain, but grow that share?" When I do phone interviews, I find that I ask as many questions as they do, virtually none of them are about the financial package. I am not in that field so I cannot help with questions, but if you have some prewritten questions ready, then add more to your paper as they come up, the hour will fly by.
As for Cartalas statement about constantly looking for jobs, if you do a great job, others will notice your work and want you. I was LIFO'd out of my job 2 years ago during a massive layoff, and went on vacation for 12 days because I had 11 offers that same day. I have at least 3 standing offers if I ever want to change jobs again. (Sorry if this sounds like bragging, I am making a point here. I am sure many others here have similiar or better results) It is called hard work, and if you do not have those options it speaks more to you then to someone who has them. Try working a little harder, maybe you will understand it more if you have the options.
Posted: June 6, 2005, 1:20 pm
by Tyek
One more suggestion, get a headset for your phone. Do not sit the whole time, stand, walk around a bit. Studies show you sound more animated and sharper when you are standing then when you sit. I am not saying do this the whole time, just get up and move every now and then, they will not know and you will sound better.
Posted: June 6, 2005, 9:20 pm
by Sionistic
Tyek wrote:One more suggestion, get a headset for your phone. Do not sit the whole time, stand, walk around a bit. Studies show you sound more animated and sharper when you are standing then when you sit. I am not saying do this the whole time, just get up and move every now and then, they will not know and you will sound better.
Jeez, I thought that was just some wierd habit I have
Posted: June 6, 2005, 9:40 pm
by Jice Virago
Cartalas wrote:noel wrote:In the IT field especially, it is often far easier to advance yourself in pay and job title/responsibility by taking a new job.
I can understand the question though Cart... with you working at Taco Bell, I wouldn't expect that to be common knowledge.
Ohh Noel taking it back old school what you failed to tell them is I amd your supervisor now Shut Up and clean out the talking trashcans!!!
Actually Taco Bell employees can jump into Blizzard Asst Community managers so it works for them too. Cart obviously doesn't work at TB, but I immagine his lifestyle to resemble the movie "Whats Eating Gilbert Grape".
Posted: June 6, 2005, 9:49 pm
by Canelek
While half of this thread has turned into useful advice, the other half is LOL-batter.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 12:00 pm
by Cartalas
Jice Virago wrote:Cartalas wrote:noel wrote:In the IT field especially, it is often far easier to advance yourself in pay and job title/responsibility by taking a new job.
I can understand the question though Cart... with you working at Taco Bell, I wouldn't expect that to be common knowledge.
Ohh Noel taking it back old school what you failed to tell them is I amd your supervisor now Shut Up and clean out the talking trashcans!!!
Actually Taco Bell employees can jump into Blizzard Asst Community managers so it works for them too. Cart obviously doesn't work at TB, but I immagine his lifestyle to resemble the movie "Whats Eating Gilbert Grape".
Did you vote for Pedro?
Posted: June 7, 2005, 1:19 pm
by Voronwë
Seebs wrote:Canno, get back in game and fucking level, that will help you out.
As for working at Axciyumm ... bring it. We own the hayseeds that are our co-workers.
I make like 15K a year and am the richest guy in my trailer park. I get off for deer season as well.
You'll be fine. If not, at least tehy now have your resume on file!
doesnt Acxiom have everybody's resume on file

Posted: June 7, 2005, 2:12 pm
by Canelek
Should I expect The General Lee in my driveway soon, complete with bars on the back windows? YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAWWWWWW, back to Arkansaaaws with yous, son!
Posted: June 7, 2005, 2:36 pm
by Seebs
We have your DNA on file Voronwe. We know when you will die and why you will die. It formulates into your fiture credit and earning potential.
Sorry about next Tuesday .. you'll see.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 4:56 pm
by Ashur
Voronwë wrote:doesnt Acxiom have everybody's resume on file

I think they have everyone's everything on file.
Posted: June 7, 2005, 5:04 pm
by Seebs
You just made the list Ashur. Expect 23 pre-approved credit card apps in the mail next week.
Also opted you 'in' to the 'I hate Muslims what the fuck you gonna do about it Allah?' newsletter that circulates on the web.
Enjoy.
Posted: June 15, 2005, 9:10 pm
by Canelek
I had another interview today. Here is a candid photo.

Posted: June 16, 2005, 9:51 am
by archeiron
Ashur wrote:Voronwë wrote:doesnt Acxiom have everybody's resume on file

I think they have everyone's everything on file.
Between the Infobase Consumer file, the Real Property file, the New Movers file, New Borrowers file, and New Homeowners file, it is fairly safe to assume that Acxiom is getting close to knowing everything about everyone in America.
(To be fair, the consumer file only has ~190M records [as of the May update], so it only covers 2/3 of the people in America)
It is a little known fact that Acxiom's Abilitech key, or whatever the hell it is called, is an encrypted key to the time of each person's death.
Posted: June 16, 2005, 3:46 pm
by Canelek
Posted: June 16, 2005, 3:50 pm
by Winnow
Del Taco?
Grats on whatever job offer you got!
Posted: June 16, 2005, 3:58 pm
by Marbus
I still think you need to move back to AR, we really do have some pretty cool databases...
Arch, shame on your for letting that secret get out!
Marb
Posted: June 16, 2005, 4:05 pm
by Canelek
Not Del Taco

There are none in OR, wtf.

Now I want Del Taco.
Merril Lynch made the offer. MSSQL DBA, etc. A good salary bump from my last job too.

I make a ton more $$$ here then I did in CA for some reason. weeeee
Hell Marb, I will eventually get back to LR to visit--my dad lives in Jackson, MS.

Posted: June 16, 2005, 5:05 pm
by masteen
So have you been fired yet?

Posted: June 16, 2005, 5:09 pm
by Seebs
God Marb .. let me manage them .. Buhahahahahhahahahahha