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<Sylvos> and the woman is bitching about retail shit
<Sylvos> and after interrupting me
<Sylvos> which you do not do when im talking
<K-moll> my ass has hair all over it now smooth boy
<Sylvos> i went "HEy Hey HEY TIME OUT"
<Sylvos> then told her i didnt care and said i'll get you to someone that does
<Sylvos> i love being me
<ashur> "retail shit" = Adobe shrink-wrap retail store stuff?
<Sylvos> im like an all in one asshole
<Sylvos> Yes
<Sylvos> shit that costs less than 10g
<Sylvos> technically
<Sylvos> like i give a fuck about photoshop elements 3
<K-moll> pretty funny bathroom stpry on a tangent
<K-moll> when we did PnP D&D every weekend
<K-moll> this one complete dipshit used to grab a book and take a shit at the guy's place we used to play
<ashur> ...
<K-moll> he would be in there an hour right in the middle every time
<Ebumar_Wrk> what an ass
<K-moll> so knowing this, we fed him
<Ebumar_Wrk> you take care of that shit before
<Ebumar_Wrk> and after the game
<Ebumar_Wrk> never during
<Ebumar_Wrk> i hate RPing with people like that
<K-moll> and one night before he arrived we removed every cloth object in the room....and all the tissues and paper etc
<K-moll> we left precisely 4 squares of singly ply TP
<K-moll> and fluffed them up so it looked like many more
<K-moll> and wrote with a sharpie on the last one
<K-moll> "Anything over 5 pounds, please lower by hand"
<ashur> ...
<K-moll> and so he goes in with his book and comes out an hour later and says nothing
<BubbaGrizz> I'd wipe my ass with my hand and not wash them after and come and roll Your dice with it
<Ebumar_Wrk> rofl omg
<K-moll> not a word
<Ebumar_Wrk> someone sneak some TP in?
<K-moll> he was in there for 17 minutes per sheet
<K-moll> no
<K-moll> he never came out and we all knew about it except for him
<ashur> he probably never read it
<ashur> he took a shit for an hr, used the 4 sheets at once and came out
<noel> btw Kilmoll... 25 last night
<BubbaGrizz> maybe he wasn't taking a shit but instead shooting a load on the towels?
<K-moll> there is no way he could have wiped with 4 squares
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<Sylvos> i've had to wipe before with 4 sheets
<ashur> same
<Sylvos> its possible
<K-moll> sweet......you are flying
<ashur> less even
<Sylvos> but you better wash your fucknig hands
<ashur> yep
<noel> yeah I'm working on safe fall so I can do Jboots asap
<BubbaGrizz> unless there was corn
<Sylvos> cause its tricky
<BubbaGrizz> then it is finger licking good
<Ebumar_Wrk> rofl
<ashur> I vote we change the subject
<K-moll> can't use jboots until level 42
<BubbaGrizz> VETO
<noel> oh
<K-moll> but you can do a lot of the runs now
<noel> well
<noel> fuck
<noel> ok
<K-moll> and get some of the other items you can use
<noel> I also made that chart thing
<K-moll> antonica is easy
<noel> for skills
<Sylvos> no way you can have diarehha and get away with 4 sheets
<noel> yeah I have some SoW potions
<K-moll> you can probably do commonlands pretty easy too
<Sylvos> no way at all
<noel> k
<K-moll> don't even need SoW for antonica or commons
<noel> no idea how to get to commonlands
<K-moll> it is through nek forest
<noel> ahh ok
<noel> I know how to get there now
<Sylvos> not unless you flush then cup clean toilet water against your ass as a makeshit bide'
<noel> I used escape in TS last night
<K-moll> just walk into nek forest and use escape and it puts you at the entrance
<noel> nice quick way to get to the docks
<noel> cool!
<noel> safe fall takes forever to raise
<K-moll> mine is probably only around 140
<K-moll> I jump off everything
<noel> cool
<K-moll> I jump off the big cliffs in antonica
<ashur> man, you can't use the email around here unless you know everyones middle initial
<K-moll> it is pretty funny to have people follow you places and you jump off one of those and watch them hit and die instantly
<ashur> freaking rediculous
<K-moll> especially if you are on ventrilo with them when they do it
<noel> hahhaha
<noel> that's priceless
<noel> oh I grabbed the DWB quest last night too
<K-moll> and then I tell them that they should not follow me
<noel> and I laughed my ass off at the dorf who wants 100 iron and 100 maple
<K-moll> DWB is perfect for your level right now
<noel> cool
<noel> can I actually complete it any time soon?
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<K-moll> oh yeah
<noel> cool
<noel> I'll get on it tonight
<K-moll> you should be able to complete and wear them at 25
<noel> I'm trying to get AQ6 done
<noel> cool!
<K-moll> what was aq6?
<K-moll> can't remember what you have to kill
<noel> ummm
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<noel> I haven't even looked at it
<noel> I've been helping others with AQ4 and 5
<K-moll> those are decent quests for exp and the armor you get
<noel> this one
<noel>
http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/IansFo ... PartVI.php
<wonko> Have they changed anything so you can soloexp ?
<K-moll> that is not a hard one
<K-moll> normal group of any type can do it pretty quick
<K-moll> solo exp has never been hard at all unless you just flat out suck
<Ebumar_Wrk> shitty quest
<wonko> it sucked for sure in ze beginning
<Ebumar_Wrk> i never did armor quests
<noel> you can solo, but you still wouldn't want to imo
<noel> I was soloing AQ5 last night with just me and a paladin
<noel> as long as we were careful it was easy
<Ebumar_Wrk> what are you?
<noel> Swash
<noel> I am DPS
<Sylvos> N i c o l e =(
<wonko> My SK gnome was teh bestest
<Ebumar_Wrk> i found Swash+ paladin was a great combo
<K-moll> I have soloed all the way through level 46
<K-moll> ranger swash is just as good
<K-moll> if not better
<Ebumar_Wrk> because as a paladin i could keep myself alive for a decent amount of time, and the swash could kill said mob in that amount of time
<Ebumar_Wrk> was able to take yellow doubleups
<K-moll> ranger and swash can kite shit and obliterate them
<Ebumar_Wrk> oh for sure
<sylvus_wrk> oh man, you can KITE in eq2???
<sylvus_wrk> i gotta get it!
<K-moll> me and fameen are able to kite level 46-47 2 up mobs now
<noel> what does 2 up mean?
<noel> heroic?
<K-moll> 2 up arrows
<noel> I still don't get it
<K-moll> yeah.....the old UI showed 2 arrows up meaning it was heroic
<noel> ahhh ok
<K-moll> you have the newer UI which sucks my ass
<noel> so heroic
<K-moll> you can toggle that option back and forth
<BubbaGrizz> So Noel
<noel> is there a way to lock toolbars?
<K-moll> yes
<BubbaGrizz> Which do you like better now?
<noel> like location + not being able to say shift from 4 to 5
<K-moll> right click on them and select lock
<BubbaGrizz> Or are they both good
<noel> I think they're both good in different ways
<noel> there are a lot of things I like much more about WoW
<Thren> EQ2 prolly has more clued people playing it
<noel> I don't know about that
<Thren> WoW is nothing but a bunch of PvP fuckers.
<K-moll> it is just a lot less ass hats
<Ebumar_Wrk> holy fuck kil
<noel> I have to constantly teach people how to move to avoid adds
<Ebumar_Wrk> you play with fameen?
<noel> there are some idiots playing EQ2
<K-moll> the people are not necessarily smarter there are just a lot fewer of them so you don't get overrun with the morons
<K-moll> yah
<noel> yes there are definitely a lot fewer
<Ebumar_Wrk> what server dude?
<K-moll> about all I do is duo with him or solo
<noel> I always laugh when I zone from Qeynos to Antonica
<K-moll> befallen
<Ebumar_Wrk> man
<noel> and I see Antonica, Antonica2
<noel> it's like
<Ebumar_Wrk> is there character transfer?
<noel> there's never too many people where I'd need to go to ANYTHING 2
<K-moll> I am not sure they have that yet
<Ebumar_Wrk> eff
<noel> yeah I haven't seen character xfer option either
<Ebumar_Wrk> i probably shouldnt pick up EQ2 again - too much guildwars to play
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<Lohrno> yo
<Ebumar_Wrk> whats up whore
<Sylvos> knock knock
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<Sylvos> YOU SUCK HAHA I WIN
<Lohrno> Who's there?
<K-moll> with DDO coming I am going to have to cut back on EQ 2 time
<Vannoth> Sylvos = Turd Burglar
<Vannoth> DDO?
<BubbaGrizz> When is the release of DDO?
<ashur> RAD!
<Thren> Hey Vannoth
<Ebumar_Wrk> man i actually dont want to play EQ2 in the slightest - nevermind.
<ashur> IT'S VAN!
<Vannoth> wtf is ddo?
<Ebumar_Wrk> DDO?
<K-moll> the different zone instances is nice if a mob like Doomsquall is camping your corpse
<BubbaGrizz> dodo
<noel> DDO is in like a year and a half?
<ashur> D&D Online
<K-moll> D&D Online
<Ebumar_Wrk> OH!
<Vannoth> Oh.....
<Thren> dudes doing orifices
<noel> oh true that
<Ebumar_Wrk> rofl thren
<Vannoth> I saw that at GenCOn last year....its....okay
<Vannoth> They're doing some stupid things with it
<Thren> year and a half?
<Thren> That's hardly "near"
<BubbaGrizz> still lots of time to play WoW
<K-moll> IT WILL OWN YOU VANNOTH
<Vannoth> No it won't
<Thren> Lots of time for those fuckers at bliz to produce something.
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<BubbaGrizz> besides Vanguard will be worth the wait
<noel> no it won't
<noel> stop saying that
<noel> look
<Thren> where?
<Thren> here?
<Thren> now?
<Vannoth> Any game where the game it automatically makes groups for you and throws you in dungeons...no thanks
<Thren> omg
<Vannoth> too many stupid people
<noel> I am now going to coin...
<noel> Noel's Law of MMOGs
<Thren> 1) There must be manginas.
<noel> Any MMOG on the market or coming out will totally suck until it has proven to be good through 1.5 months of playtime.
<ashur> must = will
<Thren> 2) Bigger polygons that bounce for the manginas.
<Faerin_wrk> 3) Rangers must be able to wear pink tights.
<noel> and I'm talking released playtime
<Thren> 3) Dudes will go for manginas knowing that they are probably manginas anyway
<Thren> The pink tights thing is good too.
<Lohrno> Thren - Very true
<Vannoth> sounds like Thren's into Homoerotic MMOs
<Thren> Well..
<Thren> To be honest, I'm kinda facinated with the topic.
<masteen> Manginas?
<noel> btw, bubba WoW is 1 million times more solo friendly
<Thren> CoH was the ultimate Mangina game.
<noel> I don't even think the two games can be compared in terms of solo-friendliness
<Lohrno> He's facinated with manginas
<noel> i really liked CoH
<noel> shame it was so repetitive
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah
<Ebumar_Wrk> its too bad CoH sucked so bad
<Thren> My problem with it is that it was too boringly simple.
<noel> no it was good
<Ebumar_Wrk> great idea
<Ebumar_Wrk> shitty implemintation
<noel> it was just too one dimenstional
<Vannoth> Honestly....if you want my opinion on MMO's.....they've peaked in their current form....they're going to die off I think
<noel> fuck
<noel> dimensional
<Thren> The implementationw was awesome.
<Thren> The game was rock solid.
<noel> no way Vann
<Vannoth> I think they'll be replaced by something more bite-size and portable
<noel> look at like
<Thren> Patching was done less intrusively.
<noel> FPSes
<Thren> Content flowed.
<noel> if you don't include multiplayer
<Thren> The classes were relatively balanced.
<noel> even if your single player rocks
<noel> it's some kind of failure
<noel> online gaming is the way of the future
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<Vannoth> Uh....you can make your own FPS and host it relatively easily, not so with an MMO
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah FPS's are pretty easy
<Vannoth> Not like you can Mod WoW
<noel> I personally expect that MMOs will move toward a user purchasable and hostable server model
<Thren> Ebumar_Wrk: go write one.
<noel> lol Thren
<Ebumar_Wrk> i was kidding thren
<Ebumar_Wrk> notice the ":P"
<noel> I've said for a long time that NWN was a total failure
<Vannoth> I honestly think MMOs will wind up being a cell-phone PDA kind of thing
<noel> because of what they could have become
<Thren> noel: Carmack mentioned that.
<Vannoth> agreed
<Vannoth> could have been the second coming
<K-moll> I think the MMO of the future will be smaller server size, larger payments per month and non-static events run by GMs
<Faerin_wrk> portability is definitely in the future of MMOs
<noel> NWN should have just taken every D&D module in print
<Faerin_wrk> there's no question about that
<noel> and made it a purchasable add on to NWN game engine
<Vannoth> K-Moll.....I can't tell you how many times I threw a fit about non-static events
<Faerin_wrk> but MMOs are just starting out
<noel> then they should have made it without the stupid in game duo thing
<noel> and made it like team only
<Faerin_wrk> they haven't peaked yet
<Vannoth> I mean look how much you guys dug the wacky crap I did with little-no planning
<Ebumar_Wrk> what do you mean vannoth?
<noel> I agree Faerin
<noel> I think they're in their infancy
<Ebumar_Wrk> oh yeah
<Ebumar_Wrk> you loved them in otherwords
<K-moll> it would have been tough on EQ live though Van
<Vannoth> Oh yeah, I preached to the mountaintop
<K-moll> WAY too many people
<Vannoth> No it wouldn't have
<Vannoth> I managed it
<noel> there's a plague going on in EQ2 right now
<noel> and frankly
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah EQ1 would have flopped if non static content wasnt in it
<noel> it's fucking annoying
<Ebumar_Wrk> what plague?
<K-moll> I went to one of the events being run and their were hundreds of people there
<Thren> a plague? Called the clap?
<noel> for my current character
<Vannoth> Its called "The Sylvos"
<noel> there is nothing fun, interesting, or good about it
<masteen> That shit they did in the Karanas was fucking the same
<noel> it has no stat effect
<masteen> back in EQ1
<Ebumar_Wrk> i cant tell you how many times, vannoth, that we would form up a raid party just to kill said GM
<Vannoth> Did any of you attend my Erollisi Marr event?
<noel> it only changes your graphical appearance
<noel> but it's fucking annoying
<Vannoth> That thing was the fucking win.
<noel> I missed almost all of your events Vann
<Ebumar_Wrk> naww i wasnt playing at the time
<noel> but I always heard the best things about them
<Vannoth> That was probably my proudest moment
<Vannoth> I wrote a 4 hour event involving half the gods
<noel> haha nice
<Vannoth> It needed at least 4 people playing parts
<Sylvos> i cant wait for D&D online
<Vannoth> It was awesome.
<K-moll> if they would have added Mayong Mistmoore with a live event and then put him in as a badass boss mob and beefed Mistmoore up to level 55 zone it would have gotten people rock hard
<noel> hey ummm
<noel> what was the deal with Mayong?
<Sylvos> fuck solo'ing im so tired of solo'ing
<noel> I heard he was in beta but then not in game?
<Vannoth> hehe....
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah vannoth
<Sylvos> i solo'd 9 charcters to 40 or higher in WoW
<Ebumar_Wrk> WTF WAS THE DEAL WITH HIM
<Vannoth> I wrote it all fucked up too
<K-moll> you chepa motherfuckers!
<Ebumar_Wrk> please vannoth release the info on mayong
<noel> oh btw funny thing I heard in EQ2... I was in what's left of the Karanas... and someone says holy crap, I just got stuck and then was teleported back to the docks!
<Vannoth> The high priestess of Emarr's boyfriend was taken by Inny's clerics and you had to chase him around for a couple hours while he did horrible things in different zones
<Vannoth> I dont know any Mayong infoz sorry
<Faerin_wrk> mayong was in beta, yeah
<Faerin_wrk> he was taken out cause he agroed the entire zone the second you zoned in
<Vannoth> In the end there's this massive battle in W Common and you have to decide to kill the Inny Cleric guy
<Vannoth> Turns out the Inny Cleric guy was the Priestess's boyfriend...the ultimate joke was to get you/her to kill her own boyfriend thinking you were saving him
<Vannoth> was rather evil
<Ebumar_Wrk> nice
<Vannoth> There were clues...you had to be smart to figure it all out
<Ebumar_Wrk> vannoth would make a good DM
<Ebumar_Wrk> did someone?
<Vannoth> It was very D&D
<Ebumar_Wrk> and who was it?
<Vannoth> Well....we ran it on 2 servers
<Vannoth> first time took 6 hours on Vazaelle
<Vannoth> they roleplayed the hell out of it and it was SO fun
<Ebumar_Wrk> thats cus Vaz sucks.
<Ebumar_Wrk> hehe
<Vannoth> I cowrote it with the Vaz GM
<Ebumar_Wrk> i was the fastest levelign warrior on Vaz when it opened
<noel> the thing I always hated about GM events was this...
<Vannoth> So...we ran it on Veeshan....you guys just killed everything and yelled OMG WHAT DID IT DROP
<noel> GM mob pops
<Vannoth> lol
<noel> immediately
<Ebumar_Wrk> rofl
<noel> 5000 people zone in
<Ebumar_Wrk> thats cus we didnt roleplay
<noel> only to kill it
<Vannoth> It was rather sad
<Ebumar_Wrk> hahaha
<Ebumar_Wrk> we were too leet for that crap vann
<Ebumar_Wrk> it was like
<Ebumar_Wrk> okay
<Ebumar_Wrk> its a mob
<Ebumar_Wrk> gives xp?
<Ebumar_Wrk> no
<Ebumar_Wrk> okay
<Ebumar_Wrk> loots?
<noel> gives loot?
<Vannoth> There was a core group of about 20 who were trying to do the adventure
<Ebumar_Wrk> its a gm mob, lets kill it
<noel> maybe
<noel> maybe not
<Vannoth> and about 200 just ganking shit randomly
<Sylvos> everyday we take our chances , gods up on high!
<noel> kill it anyway to be sure
<Sylvos> vice or circumstances! into the dark!
<Ebumar_Wrk> stfu sylvos
<Sylvos> we take our chances !
<Vannoth> You wanna hear my favorite live event story
<Sylvos> the more we change!
<Ebumar_Wrk> STFU YOU STUPID MOTHER FUCKING HICK
<noel> sure
<Sylvos> the more we stay the same!
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah van
* Sylvos JAMS OUT!
<Vannoth> Stupid fucking event the live team wrote
<Vannoth> my GOD it was stupid.
<Vannoth> s t u p id
<noel> like
<Sylvos> ebumar sucks shit through a tube.
<Vannoth> Fucking Cazic Thule comes to LOIO
<Ebumar_Wrk> ...dumb
<noel> Greedo shooting first stupid?
<Ebumar_Wrk> reason?
<noel> idiots
<Ebumar_Wrk> Cazic to LOIO to kill newbies basically?
<Vannoth> And asks people to bring him proof of causing fear in the local goblins
<noel> YES LETS SEND THE GOD of (Can't remember) To a 15-30 zone!
<noel> FEAR!
<noel> (thanks Van =P)
<Ebumar_Wrk> why would he want to send fear to local goblins when MOST OF THEM WORSHIP HIM
<K-moll> man...if I was the one playing Cazic I would have stomped that place into a giant mudhole of noob suck
<Ebumar_Wrk> stupid retards
<Vannoth> No....Cazic was supposed to stand there in LOIO and let people hand in Goblin Beads to him
<K-moll> and then I would have run on over to Sebilis to smoke anyone at the zoneline
<Ebumar_Wrk> haha kil that would be awesome
<noel> yeah
<Ebumar_Wrk> this was around kunark huh vann?
<Vannoth> So....when they handed in the beads...I was supposed to give them non-magical no-stat fucking jewelry
<Vannoth> No, after luclin
<noel> I'm sure the god of fear would jsut stand there and chill
<Ebumar_Wrk> oh how lame
<Vannoth> AND HAND OUT SHITTY JEWELRY
<K-moll> and then I would have started the train to end all trains outside karnors castle
<noel> let me tell you how it would have gone on Veeshan
<ashur> Well, Cazic was the Iksar god - LOIO isn't off - Field of Bone would have been better
<noel> FoH/CT zones in
<Vannoth> Oh I can tell you how it went on veeshan
<K-moll> and then zoned into karnors to kill everyone who zoned in there
<noel> Cazic Thule has been slain
<Sylvos> hey know what
<Ebumar_Wrk> yreah right noel
<Vannoth> Wait it gets better!
<Ebumar_Wrk> any one of the top 8 guilds zones in
<Sylvos> FUCK SOE FOR MAKING KARANA JUST A RETARDED TRAPPED OLD MAN
<ashur> the proplem is LOIO became the twink zone and was mostly non-iksar
<Ebumar_Wrk> cazic thule has been slain
<Ebumar_Wrk> and "WHAT ARE THE LOOTS"
<Sylvos> Karana was the GOD OF THUNDER
<Ebumar_Wrk> happens
<Sylvos> the STORM KIGN
<Sylvos> KIGN
<Vannoth> no no check this out
<Sylvos> lgjsksa King
<Ebumar_Wrk> okay go ahead vann
<ashur> what sucks is we killed him and he didn't drop anything
<Vannoth> So....nobody tested this fucking event
<noel> lol next day post on the EQ boards about how he had no loot
<Sylvos> You kiled him, i sat out
<noel> and how Furor is going to quit
<Vannoth> There was a bug when people tried to hand in no-trade items to a GM-quest character the GM would go LD
<Ebumar_Wrk> oh dear god
<Vannoth> And of course....the fucking beads were no-trade
<Ebumar_Wrk> ...
<Ebumar_Wrk> yes ofcourse
<Ebumar_Wrk> sigh
<noel> HAHAHAH
<Vannoth> So I was crashing repeatedly
<Ebumar_Wrk> cazic on a rampage?
<Thren> rofl
<ashur> yeah, what's funny is all the faction was with "The Rainmaker" but when killed we got -faction with "Karana"
<ashur> and then they made him unkillable, no?
<Vannoth> So....I come back
<Vannoth> I'm PISSED right
<Vannoth> fucking stupid devs
<noel> lol
<Vannoth> and half the server is PISSED and petitioning
<noel> haha even better
<Ebumar_Wrk> this was on veesh?
<noel> yea
<Vannoth> So....I come back, I start handing out velium shit
<ashur> OF COURSE
<noel> pay attention
<ashur> the only server that ever mattered
<Vannoth> fuck that ghetto copper shit
<Vannoth> And this dickhead runs up and starts telling me how cazic sucks shit...and how he is a ghetto bullshit god
<Ebumar_Wrk> wtf
<ashur> DT!
<noel> lol
<Vannoth> and we were told SPECIFICALLY not to kill anybody/rampage etc
<Ebumar_Wrk> did you kill him?
<noel> if you remember a name
<ashur> right there
<Ebumar_Wrk> ROFL
<noel> I'd love to hear it
<Vannoth> Yeah....I was like well...hm...what would Cazic do
<noel> lol
<noel> haha
<Ebumar_Wrk> DT!
<Vannoth> I was like fuck that DT.
<noel> DT!
<noel> SYLVOS!
<K-moll> DT!
<Ebumar_Wrk> ROFL HAHAHAHAH
<ashur> I would have been like "ASSHOLENAME!"
<Sylvos> you fuckign DT'd me
<ashur> yeah
<Ebumar_Wrk> HAHAHAHA SYLVOS
<Vannoth> And I sad Anybody else want to talk back to me?
<Sylvos> i was like wtf btich
<noel> and he was like
<Sylvos> jk wnst me
<noel> I'LL KILL YOUR FAMILY BITCH!
<noel> SIRENSA!
<K-moll> I think I would have zoned into wherever FoH was raidign that night and begin DT'ing everyone
<Vannoth> No, then all the noobies swarming me jumped back about 100 yards
<noel> hahaha
<Vannoth> HOLY SHIT CAZIC
<noel> must have been fun to watch
<K-moll> now that would have owned
<K-moll> FUROR!
<noel> ALLORIA!
<Ebumar_Wrk> rofl
<noel> KRURK!
<noel> ELDERAN!
<Ebumar_Wrk> that would have been classic
<noel> SEAN!
<K-moll> SEAN the Gay Scale!
<noel> NINO!
<Vannoth> I left the zone and came back as the high priest of cazic (iksar) and handed out jewelry
<Ebumar_Wrk> HAHAHAHAH KIL
<noel> lol
<Vannoth> I got my ass CHEWED OUT for handing out (decent) jewelry and killing one person
<Ebumar_Wrk> rofl
<noel> Cazic Thule tells FoH, 'Ding!'
<Ebumar_Wrk> were you like
<Vannoth> CAZIC DOES NOT KILL PLAYERS WTF
<Ebumar_Wrk> "DID YOU RETARDS EVEN TEST THIS SHIT?"
<K-moll> and then they could ahve fired me and I would have laughed and posted the screenshots and logs on VV
<noel> hahah
<Vannoth> I said...did you listen to what the fuck you just said?
<noel> lol
<K-moll> XEREXES!
<Vannoth> Yeah....I walked up to Brenlo in front of the entire GM pit and said WHO THE FUCK WROTE THIS ADVENTURE. TELL ME NOW. I WILL KICK HIM IN THE FUCKING NUTS.
<Vannoth> He got really mad...I think he wrote it lol
<Ebumar_Wrk> lolololol
<K-moll> GAYZIAN!
<Vannoth> DO YOU PEOPLE TEST THIS SHIT
<Ebumar_Wrk> oh fuck i just added a crapload of ol's to my lol
<Ebumar_Wrk> my bad guys
<Vannoth> I made him look pretty stupid
<Ebumar_Wrk> MY BAD
<Vannoth> BURN
<Vannoth> CHrist they are stupid there
<noel> hahah
<noel> MOUTHWASH!
<Ebumar_Wrk> im sure brenlo was like "omg this would be GENIUS" and then you're like "no sorry, you're a dumbass, ill re do it and make it better. 100x better"
<noel> I always got the impression that the game tried to succeed in spite of SOE
<noel> it's like the game had a life of it's own
<noel> kind of like the earth/Gaia concept
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah lol
<Sylvos> hey
<Ebumar_Wrk> no matter how much SoE fucked shit up
<noel> where the people are shitting all over the earth
<noel> polluting it and whatnot
<Ebumar_Wrk> someone found some way to amke it fun
<Sylvos> you guys are fuckin queer
<Sylvos> FUK U HITLER!
<noel> and Gaia is trying to live
<Ebumar_Wrk> stfu sylvos you bible thumping retarded hick
<noel> sad really
<Ebumar_Wrk> go fuck your sister or something
<Sylvos> stfu ebumar i hopeyou die now
<Ebumar_Wrk> MOUTHWASH
<ashur> A better evet would be if an Iksar appeared in LOIO and started killing all non cazic-worshippers
<noel> I'll do that if you don't wanna
<Sylvos> no thats not a moutwahs you are a retard
<Ebumar_Wrk> gg typing
<BubbaGrizz> HAIRSPRAY
<Ebumar_Wrk> YOU R TEH PWN AT SPALLENG
<Ebumar_Wrk> dumbass
<Sylvos> im the pwn when im cornholing you and making you scream like a fat bitch with a skinned knee.
<ashur> I would have been an Iksar if it had been available on release, but wasn't going to re-start
<Ebumar_Wrk> i would have been a freaking dwarf
<Ebumar_Wrk> high elves are SO FUCKING GAY
<Ebumar_Wrk> god damn
<noel> I would have been a wood elf
<ashur> yes
<noel> again
<Ebumar_Wrk> spent 5 years as that piece of shit
<noel>
<Sylvos> i would have been a half elf again
<Ebumar_Wrk> WITH ALL POINTS IN WIS
<noel> apparently that makes me gay
<Ebumar_Wrk> SCORE
<Ebumar_Wrk> man
<Vannoth> I agree Ashur
<noel> I was in a group yesterday
<Ebumar_Wrk> such a newbie when i started that char
<noel> and we looted 'giant meat'
<noel> and this gnome in the group was like
<noel> hey, can I trade you X for the giant meat
<noel> and I thought
<Vannoth> I think the best moment ever in EQ for me was when we ran an event in the arena and someone I think FOH dire Charmed the Luclin GM
<noel> sure he must be a provisioner etc.
<noel> so I give it to him
<Vannoth> after he shouted "Luclin Owns Veeshan"
<noel> and he's like
<noel> ./shout HEY EVERYONE! I might be a gnome, but check out my 'giant meat'
<Vannoth> He was sitting next to me...oh shit...I've been charmed....ohshitohshitohshitohshit
<noel> hahaha
<noel> fuck Luclin
<Thren> lol
<Vannoth> I was busy pointing and laughing when I saw that I was dire charmed too
<Vannoth> FUUUUUUUUUCK
<noel> haha
<noel> FoH had some really smart players
<Vannoth> we /zoned and came back and the entire zone was fucking wasted
<Vannoth> lol
<Vannoth> our GM chars were DTing everyone
<Thren> hahaha
<Ebumar_Wrk> rofl
<noel> lol
<Ebumar_Wrk> dahahahahaha thats so funny
<Ebumar_Wrk> i love shit like that
<Ebumar_Wrk> where everyone dies
<Ebumar_Wrk> at the end of the beta weekend events for guildwars
<noel> that's cause you were in PD and you were used to it =P
<Vannoth> we were convinced we were gonna be fired
<Ebumar_Wrk> there's always an "event"
<noel> MOUTHWASH BITCH!
<noel> hahaha
<Ebumar_Wrk> and they kill EVERYONE over and over again
<Vannoth> We were SO sure we were gonna be caught
<Vannoth> Not that we did anything....but letting players use you to kill everyone in a zone = bad
<Ebumar_Wrk> they seriously leave the servers up for the whole next day, and just kill everyone
<noel> any good stories of GM corruption?
<Vannoth> Ha
<Vannoth> A few
<Ebumar_Wrk> omfg
<Ebumar_Wrk> do tell
<Vannoth> One SWG GM was ebaying shit
<Ebumar_Wrk> remember that guide that summoned a bunch of players into VP back in the day, Noel?
<Vannoth> and got away with like 250k before they caught him
<noel> L33t J3d1 h0l0cr0ns!
<Vannoth> Grr Ebu I remember
<noel> I think
<Ebumar_Wrk> that guide was my favorite
<Vannoth> I was UNBELIEVABLY pissed about that.
<Ebumar_Wrk> he was so clever about it too
<noel> 250k
<noel> so did he just lose his job?
<noel> or did he have to do something with the money?
<noel> cause even if he lost his job
<Vannoth> Yeah shockingly as far as I know
<noel> that seems like a win for him
<Vannoth> yeah
<noel> yeah ++ him
<Faerin_wrk> there's not a lot they could do
<Vannoth> I never heard anything else
<Faerin_wrk> other than fire him
<noel> he can go to college for a few years and get a real job
<noel> (no offense)
<Ebumar_Wrk> lol
<Vannoth> Yep
<Vannoth> We had a guide share his info with players on Veeshan
<Ebumar_Wrk> wait
<Ebumar_Wrk> who was that
<noel> lol that's SMART!
<Ebumar_Wrk> i think i remember who that was
<Vannoth> they were logging his char in and breaking zones, killing shit in Seb
<noel> what's his real name
<Sylvos> i know him
<Vannoth> I dont remember
<noel> I want a person like that working in my organization!
<Vannoth> I had a FUCKING FIT.
<Sylvos> his name was Urfukinmom
<Ebumar_Wrk> stfu sylvos
<Ebumar_Wrk> i was hoping for once you had something to bring to the discussion
<Ebumar_Wrk> but yet again
<Ebumar_Wrk> you are a god damn retard
<Sylvos> no i remeber his n ame really
<Vannoth> Brenlo says "Do the work and if you can prove someone logged him in and did something bad, suspend them if they have no priors, and if they have a prior ban them"
<Sylvos> that fag
<Sylvos> his name was IfukedEbumarsass
<Vannoth> So...I look....I did 75 suspensions and 8 bans in one night
<Vannoth> stayed till 4am processing it all
<Ebumar_Wrk> oh man
<Ebumar_Wrk> thats amazing
<Ebumar_Wrk> you did that on veeshan?
<Ebumar_Wrk> what guild did you fuck over?
<Vannoth> I handed this giant ream of paper to him the next day
<Vannoth> was more than one guild oddly enough
<Vannoth> He was like WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
<Ebumar_Wrk> oh man
<Ebumar_Wrk> i hope one of those fuckers was Sleestakk
<Vannoth> 75 suspensions and 8 bannings, from that guide
<Ebumar_Wrk> was it sleestakk?
<Vannoth> JESUS CHRIST OH MY GOD
<rellix> hooray, only took 7 hours to log on aim
<Vannoth> All of them were overturned within 2 hours
<Ebumar_Wrk> lol rellix
<Ebumar_Wrk> wtf vannoth?
<Vannoth> He said it would be a "PR nightmare"...fucking pussy.
<Vannoth> Even though I had rock fucking concrete proof
<Thren> since when did SoE care about PR?
<Vannoth> That was pretty much the moment I decided SOE was run by no-tallent-pussies
<Vannoth> and started doing my own shit
<K-moll> you know the one thing I hated about EQ 1
<K-moll> is that people were DPS retarded
<K-moll> no one cared about jack other than DPS
<Ebumar_Wrk> or max HP
<K-moll> people never figured out how to use all the little things they could do
<K-moll> especially casters
<Ebumar_Wrk> ESPECIALLY casters
<Ebumar_Wrk> i was capable of mezzing better than most enchanters
<Ebumar_Wrk> and i was a fucking paladin
<Vannoth> Sounds like D&D
<noel> most players suck
<Sylvos> i love D&D
<noel> bottom line
<K-moll> I tried for a year to teach our wizards that they could interrupt CHing or gating mobs with level 29 spells
<Vannoth> Everyone is AC obsessed
<noel> I can't tell you how many people did nothing but whine about what their classes couldn't do
<Ebumar_Wrk> haha kilmoll to no avail i bet
<K-moll> but no....they argued that you could only interrupt with damage
<noel> instead of focusing on what they could do
<Vannoth> I had a druid who was a peace loving hippie and I could rip shit up
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<Vannoth> in D&D
<Ebumar_Wrk> WTF?
<Vannoth> EQ druids are pussies
<noel> most people have no idea about aggro ranges, escape tactics, when to run, when not to, etc.
<Ebumar_Wrk> uhh knockbacks interrupt every time, wtf
<noel> people suck at games
<Vannoth> hehe
<Vannoth> I had that problem in EQ2
<K-moll> how many people understood that the Al'Kabor series of spells interupted spells?
<noel> that dev post that miir wrote
<Vannoth> I'd be the MT...RUN FUCKERS
<noel> err miir posted
<noel> where the dev is like
<Vannoth> And they'd all stand around....WHAT ABOUT YOU
<Vannoth> RUN GODDAMNIT
<noel> maybe it's you that sucks...
<Vannoth> /die
<noel> was priceless
<Sylvos> best ever
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah noel
<noel> I will say this too
<Ebumar_Wrk> that was awesome
<K-moll> none of our wizards even had the Al Kabor line
<noel> I sucked at EQ1
<Ebumar_Wrk> wtf kilmoll
<Ebumar_Wrk> how did you guys KILL SHIT?
<Sylvos> is people not realizing that you could perma snare a mob by casting levle 9 snare then ensnare then the aa snare
<K-moll> so one day I logged Belfrain in when we did PoG
<noel> if it hadn't been for Alloria, Sean, Sylvos, and a few other people
<Sylvos> and it bugged snare permanently
<noel> they pretty much taught me to play it right
<Sylvos> so you could kite Tunare alll day
<K-moll> and I was sitting there blasting mobs around the zone with thunder strike and laughing
<Sylvos> well not summoning shit
<Ebumar_Wrk> i hated PoG
<K-moll> and nothing gated the entire day
<Ebumar_Wrk> sleestakk made me pull poG for 6 months
<Sylvos> i hated your mom
<K-moll> nothing got a CH off
<Ebumar_Wrk> i didnt recieve one piece of loot for 6 months
<Ebumar_Wrk> that was the lamest lame that ever lamed
<Sylvos> i hated PoG cause NO RANGER LOOT EXISTED THERE
<noel> what about the Cleric CH breastplate!
<K-moll> and I showed those fags I was right
<noel> that was smart!
<noel> who would have ever thought that a guild might get a FEW of those
<Ebumar_Wrk> there was no paladin loot etiher vos
<Ebumar_Wrk> haha noel
<Ebumar_Wrk> CHBPs were great
<K-moll> CH BP was ass compared to the 3 second no mana superior heal from the VP dragon
<BubbaGrizz> I am going through WoW withdrawals
<Ebumar_Wrk> thx constant base of heal
<BubbaGrizz> it has been 2 days
<K-moll> we had 9....yes 9 of those sticks
<Vannoth> fuck....I miss D&D Suddenly
<Ebumar_Wrk> im kinda going through EQ1 withdrawls now >_<
<K-moll> and then they removed them when they realized wtf we had
<noel> oh yeah
<Sylvos> i remember once upon a time
<noel> I remember that thing
<noel> Star of the Blacksun?
<Vannoth> Sylvos, start running your lief ericsson campaign pls
<noel> or something like taht
<noel> that
<Sylvos> i would go "LD" when guild was doign PoG
<Sylvos> and come back 3 days later and get berated
<noel> only reason that wasn't nerfed to hell was because only a few people did VP
<K-moll> I loved PoG for the first month
<Sylvos> cause it was gay
<noel> yeah
<K-moll> we farmed VP non-stop
<K-moll> I hated it
<Sylvos> you guys LIVED IN POG llike faggots
<K-moll> I hate that goddamn door
<Sylvos> and STILL couldnt kill tunare
<Sylvos> ffs
<Soreali> I remember going LD in PoG when the chanter robe dropped.. By the time I came back it had been looted.. Sucks my nuts.
<Sylvos> SUCK NUTS
<noel> speaking of doors, locks and lockpicking
<K-moll> I hate all those motherfucking doors I had to open for pulls
<noel> is lockpicking in EQ2?
<Vannoth> Sylvos...it gets better
<noel> and do I get to do it?
<Vannoth> yes
<noel> ok
<noel> thanks
<K-moll> WTF are you talking about couldn't kill tunare?
<Sylvos> how on earth could it get better
<Ebumar_Wrk> haha PD fucking lived in poG more
<noel> PD did live in PoG more
<K-moll> I turned down looting her piercer about 20 fucking times
<sylvus_wrk> i don't like to brag, but i was probably like the best druid that ever played eq
<Vannoth> So....Fucking retards who played ELVES would go to POG and kill Tunare
<noel> I remember kyoukan flamign you for it
<noel> ahah
<Vannoth> And then petition
<noel> I don't like to brag
<Vannoth> OMG I AM KOS IN THE ELF CITY AND IM AN ELF
<Vannoth> HEPL
<Vannoth> OMG
<Vannoth> WTF
<noel> but I was the third person on Veeshan to craft the Trueshot bow!
<Ebumar_Wrk> haha vannoth
<Sylvos> that was pretty fucking ay
<Ebumar_Wrk> i totally got over faction eventually
* noel flexes
<Ebumar_Wrk> everything just had to die
<K-moll> there was nothing we failed to be able to do
<Vannoth> Uh...did you kill Tunare
<Vannoth> "Well....yeah"
<Sylvos> lol noel i was the first person on veeshan to mass produce those things and get 255 fletching
<Vannoth> YOU KILLED YOUR OWN FUCKING GOD YOU MORON
<Vannoth> Oh.....and that's bad?
<K-moll> I did pioneer one thing in EQ
<Vannoth> /pulls a gun
<Sylvos> i outfitted almost every single newbie with one for 2 months
<K-moll> and that was wizard kiting
<Ebumar_Wrk> hahaha vann
<noel> hahhahahahhaha
<Faerin_wrk> I was kos to every city in the game but neriak, and damn proud of it
<Sylvos> me too!
<Ebumar_Wrk> faerin
<Sylvos> exxcept surefall galde and qyenos
<Ebumar_Wrk> i was KoS in EVERY city of the entire game
<sylvus_wrk> i don't like to brag, but one time i was so drunk irl and running through kael that i died like 7 consecutive times to the see invis giants
<Sylvos> cause Surefall Glade was PIMP
<K-moll> started kiting at level 29 and other wizards are like wtf ....how did you snare?
<sylvus_wrk> that just illustrates my perseverence
<noel> lol
<Ebumar_Wrk> haha kil
<Faerin_wrk> yes, but I wasn't a retard, I still wanted somewhere to shop
<Ebumar_Wrk> wizards are DUMB
<K-moll> wtf is bonds of force?
<Ebumar_Wrk> naww faerin
<Ebumar_Wrk> bazaar
<Ebumar_Wrk> uhh
<Ebumar_Wrk> plane of tranq or some shit
<noel> bazaar wasn't always in the game Ebu
<Ebumar_Wrk> i had plenty of places to sell
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah i wasnt KoS until luclin
<Sylvos> i sold ur anus
<Ebumar_Wrk> when we finally killed tunare
<noel> I think Luclin should be deleted except for Ssra, Bazaar and Nexus
<Faerin_wrk> when luclin went live, faction meant dick all
<noel> totally
<Faerin_wrk> luclin should never have existed
<K-moll> Luclin was the worst expansion for any game in history
<Faerin_wrk> any of it
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah totally
<Sylvos> i sold ur luclin
<noel> it was horrible
<Sylvos> had awesome plot lines =(
<Sylvos> just shitty expansion
<noel> man
<sylvus_wrk> are there still 'events' in luclin that don't even work?
<Faerin_wrk> awesome plot lines?
<noel> one thing I hate about EQ2
<Sylvos> and i sold ur mom
<Faerin_wrk> cats on the moon!
<Sylvos> yeah great concepts
<noel> the auction house in WoW DESTROYS EQ2
<Sylvos> poor follow through
<Vannoth> sylvus yes there are whole fucking zones from Luclin that dont work still
<Ebumar_Wrk> uhh
<Sylvos> INNER ACRYLIA12
<Ebumar_Wrk> ha
<noel> I dare you to defy me on that
<K-moll> the new off-line selling is nice....don;t know how woW does it though
<noel> any of you
<Ebumar_Wrk> 'the unreleased zone (tm'
<noel> WoW allows you to make LOTS of money
<noel> because it's an AUCTION house
<noel> so people can bid for more than you're selling for
<noel> and you can have a buyout
<noel> so you can say
<K-moll> EQ 2 is making it hard to amass lots of cash
<Soreali> I remember AE groups in Acrylia I think.. Then they nerfed it which sucked donkey balls..
<Faerin_wrk> the wow auction house is pretty good
<K-moll> so they can reduce the mudflation
<Sylvos> i once pooped in noels lap and he liked it and said thnk you for the chocolate hotdog.
<Faerin_wrk> but to be fair, they stole it from FFX
<noel> well it's an auction house
<noel> totally Faerin
<K-moll> and so the plat will trade higher against the US dollar
<noel> so you don't really get mudflation
<noel> cause people will ony bid what something is worth
<Faerin_wrk> you don't get mudflation in wow, because the economy started out worthless
<noel> you still don't have more money coming into the system
<Faerin_wrk> it has no where to go
<Sylvos> mudflation like something stupid comnig out of ebumar's mouth is, inevitable.
<noel> agreed sylvos
<noel> afk bio
<Vannoth> I am teh walrus
<K-moll> I think they did it right in EQ 2.....you will have a long long time before plat becomes worthless
<Thren> mudflation is inevitable, but you can still make it a prolonged path to a mudflated state.
<Faerin_wrk> well
<Faerin_wrk> you can, yes
<Faerin_wrk> you CAN prolong it forever
<Faerin_wrk> but realistically, you can only plan ahead so far
<Thren> yea.
<Faerin_wrk> before you end up never releasing your game
<Thren> Ideally, you'd make the content fun to do instead of about the gear.
<K-moll> not possible
<Faerin_wrk> but again, that's only realistic to a point
<Vannoth> Thren...the problem about that is the public
<K-moll> people always care more about the drops
<Vannoth> The players will make it about the gear no matter what you do
<Vannoth> People suck.
<Faerin_wrk> you can't make an encounter that's fun the 700th time you do it
<K-moll> you could faerin
<Faerin_wrk> not without dynamic content
<Faerin_wrk> which just isn't viable yet
<K-moll> if it streamed porn after you did it the 700th time
<Vannoth> mmm
<Vannoth> pron
<Faerin_wrk> would that not be loot?
<K-moll> no
<Faerin_wrk> bullshit
<K-moll> just a bonus
<Faerin_wrk> it's a reward
<Faerin_wrk> loot=reward
<K-moll> you can't ninja porn
<Faerin_wrk> you're doing the event to see porn, not because the event is fun
<Sylvos> jesus christ wtf
<Faerin_wrk> go away
<Vannoth> OMG WHAT IS THE PORN DROP
<K-moll> they should just write encounters that will react differently at random
<K-moll> dragon should melee hardcore one time and then the next breath fire so hot that even ebumar's ass will seem cooler to him
<Faerin_wrk> they should just write a totally self evolving game system!
<noel> lol
<Vannoth> they will, eventually
<noel> I'll get right on that, Faerin
<noel> !
<Faerin_wrk> k
<K-moll> or jsut have optional GM controlled mobs on end game
<Faerin_wrk> bad idea
<noel> I always wondered about that
<Vannoth> one thing that was cool
<noel> like having a staff of GMs
<K-moll> I mean there are only so many end game mobs
<Vannoth> I used to play DragonRealms
<noel> who's job it is to control mob(s) in zone(s)
<K-moll> let me have one of those fuckers and I will show you AI
<Ebumar_Wrk> you guys hear about that one colony game
<Ebumar_Wrk> thats all space and shit
<Sylvos> let me control the mobs
<Ebumar_Wrk> and the players create all the content?
<Vannoth> They had premium events....completely unique shit twice a year
<K-moll> I would start smoking clerics
<Sylvos> i'll kill em lal
<Faerin_wrk> eve
<K-moll> and casters
<Vannoth> a big long all fucking adventure and you had to sign up for a slot at a specific time
<Vannoth> it was all gm-run and custom created for that one event over that month
<K-moll> and I would charge out of that lair during their buffing
<Vannoth> youd pay like $20 or $30 to attend if you wanted to
<Vannoth> and it was goddamn fun
<K-moll> and camp their coprses
<K-moll> that would make for a fun encounter the 700th time
<Vannoth> Sylvos, being a mob isn't that fun trust me
<K-moll> especially if they were fucking japs
<K-moll> cause I would be yelling GODZIRRA!
<Vannoth> Hail I am bob, the fucking iksar, bring me<loading plz wait>
<Sylvos> i am so bored with today
<K-moll> and then I would stomp those fuckers
<Vannoth> WHATS HE DROP /loot
<noel> haha
<Sylvos> thats why you have a 10000 pt damage shield on
<Sylvos> duh
<Sylvos> they'll learn their lesson
<Vannoth> oh then you get to listen to everyone whine about how you cheat
<Vannoth> OMG FUCKING DAMAGE SHIELD LAME WTF OMG GM FUCKING PUSSY
<K-moll> you should just use what the normal mob would have
<Ebumar_Wrk> haha
<Ebumar_Wrk> so what
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah
<Ebumar_Wrk> but play it as a player instead
<K-moll> just make sure you are a level 73 mob
<Vannoth> Then you die in about oh...half a second
<Ebumar_Wrk> you'd RAPE if you were cazic and you played it like a player
<K-moll> and fully geared and buffed
<Faerin_wrk> well, the average mmo player being a complete retard doesn't help in longevity
<Vannoth> Hail, I am Quest_Mob_01 I a-<loading>
<Sylvos> doesnt matter vannoth
<Sylvos> i'd just attack the PC's
<Faerin_wrk> GM controlled mobs is fun every once in a while, but it's certainly not a feasable solution to the issue
<Sylvos> see them driven before me
<Sylvos> hear the lamentations of their women
<K-moll> no shit...if I was cazic I would fully equip myself and have the dispel sword and the haste sword and be a DTing Mecha Cazic
<noel> I agree, Faerin
<Vannoth> People actually _HATE_ GM suprise attacks
<Vannoth> H a t e
<noel> LOL K'moll
<Sylvos> i dont i thought they were fucking rad
<Vannoth> I WAS FUCKING XP GRINDING AND YOU KILLED ME WTF
<noel> lol
<noel> thing is though Vannoth
<Faerin_wrk> depends
<noel> it's not so much that
<K-moll> and I would slaughter everyone that entered my zone
<Vannoth> JESUS I WAS TRYING TO FINISH MY X QUEST AND YOU FUCKED ME THANKS A LOT FUCK YOU SOE
<noel> I don't care if you attack me
<noel> if I have a fighting chance
<noel> I don't care if there's a plague
<K-moll> because I would have a see invis item and camp the entrance
<noel> if I can actually do something about it
<sylvus_wrk> i guess that's kind of a problem in eq when a death resulted in the loss of 27 hours of xp grinding =P
<Ebumar_Wrk> omg kil
<Faerin_wrk> oldschool EQ, you'd get a much different reaction from players than you would post velious
<noel> true that, sylvus
<Vannoth> See all my GM experience was post-luclin
<BubbaGrizz> I am going to love the Elemental Invasions in WoW
<Faerin_wrk> yeah, you came in during the decline
<noel> I think mid velious was the height of EQ1
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah vann, oldschool EQ was way better
<Faerin_wrk> dunno
<Ebumar_Wrk> i agree noel
<Vannoth> I played from the beginning
<K-moll> kunark was more solid
<Thren> I have yet to see one Elemental Invasion on test.
<Vannoth> But only worked there just before luclin on
<noel> hmmm still not enough targets for all the players
<Thren> People are too busy ganking each other in TM or cross roads to care, I imagine.
<noel> in Kunark
<K-moll> they could have ended it at VP and people would have walked away happy
<Faerin_wrk> I had more fun pre-kunark than any other time
<noel> yeah but
<noel> again
<noel> same issue
<noel> not enough content for the number of players per server
<K-moll> they could have fixed that by upping the shit zones
<Faerin_wrk> I disagree
<K-moll> and not made expansions
<K-moll> like msitmoore
<noel> Pre-kunark, you had what... Guk, SolB, Vox and Nagafen?
<K-moll> completely unused zone
<Faerin_wrk> how many people were at the end tier when kunark came out?
<Ebumar_Wrk> and fear, noel
<sylvus_wrk> i think the height of eq was 23 people all sitting in high hold trying to KS the guy that dropped the PGT or the SBH or that bag...
<noel> problem with Mistmoore was
<Faerin_wrk> very few
<Ebumar_Wrk> HAHAHA SYLVUS
<Ebumar_Wrk> omfg
<noel> EQ1 was never able to overcome their shitty pathing nad attacking through walls issues
<Ebumar_Wrk> mistmoore was a lost project
<Ebumar_Wrk> it never worked right
<noel> so even if you upped the levels of the mobs etc.
<Faerin_wrk> pre-kunark, as far as raiding goes, you had nag/vox/PoF/PoH
<K-moll> it would have been fine if they fixed it
<noel> it still would have been ass
<Faerin_wrk> and half of Posky
<noel> yeah
<K-moll> and kedge
<Faerin_wrk> kedge too, but it wasn't on the same scale
<noel> oh K-moll what level do I need to be to complete/do the Fishbone quest?
<K-moll> kedge was challenging at 50 and under
<Ebumar_Wrk> hehe i had so much money in EQ2
<K-moll> but it did suck
<Faerin_wrk> I liked kedge
<Ebumar_Wrk> i found a sploit and it was leet - then they nerfed it but i still had 300 gold
<noel> I just don't like underwater zones
<K-moll> you need to be about level 30
<noel> ok
<noel> thanks
<Vannoth> Noel, 30
<Vannoth> with a group of 30's
<noel> ok
<noel> np
<Faerin_wrk> and as far as xp zones ... it was the same mentality as always, there was plenty to do, people just didn't do it
<Vannoth> that damn octopus thing is rough
<noel> I don't really agree with that
<noel> I remember being level 45 or 50
<Faerin_wrk> there would be 100 people in gukB dead side, 15 in gukB live side, 15 in solB, and no one anywhere else
<noel> and beingin Sol B, camping a single spawn
<noel> heh I remember 45-80 in Sol B
<Sylvos> fuck solB
<noel> where else was there to go if you weren't raiding?
<Sylvos> god i hated that zone
<K-moll> I loved SolB......still do
<Faerin_wrk> yeah, solb picked up later, when people started realizing there was loot there
<noel> I liked it
<Sylvos> guk was my favorite
<noel> what loot?
<noel> there were like
<Faerin_wrk> guk live side was almost always empty
<K-moll> there was a shit ton
<noel> FGs that dropped a nice hat
<Sylvos> mithril
<Soreali> GEBs..
<Vannoth> I got Lego Star Wars for Xbox in the mail today from Gamefly
<Faerin_wrk> kedge was ALWAYS empty
<noel> there was the invis goblin thing
<Vannoth> /wookie lego
<noel> it's fun, Vann
<Sylvos> cause kedge wasgay
<noel> because Kedge had barriers to entry
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<Faerin_wrk> gay script
<K-moll> hate and fear were always up
<noel> no one wanted to have to deal with refreshing EB every 5 minutes or whatever
<noel> and always camped by FoH or CT pre-Kunark
<noel> or cleared
<Faerin_wrk> that's exactly my point noel ... no one wants to do any more than they absolutely have to
<K-moll> first in force bitch!
<noel> I don't understand
<noel> if you're not in FoH or CT
<Faerin_wrk> kedge was an awesome xp zone
<Faerin_wrk> but NO ONE xp'd there
<noel> no one needed exp pre-kunark
<Faerin_wrk> why? cause it wasn't blind xp on a stick
<noel> so many people were level 50
<K-moll> you just needed to have a guild with enough people to crash the zones and then they would ALWYS be popped
<noel> so you're level 50, what do you do?
<Faerin_wrk> people had to get there
<K-moll> at 50 it was all about equipping your people
<K-moll> and mobilizing
<noel> yes
<noel> yes
<K-moll> FAST
<Faerin_wrk> only took 1 person to crash fear
<Vannoth> ahhaha...thats so fucking cool
<noel> there were other people who were just playing the game though
<Faerin_wrk> fear TT into wall, inc loot!
<Vannoth>
http://www.expressofitness.com/Welcome2.htm
<Vannoth> Stationary bikes linked together to do races (cool)
<noel> the average player didn't understand that EQ1 was always about mobilizing and eqipping
<noel> they thought it was about dungeons and dragons adventuring
<K-moll> the average player didn't htit 50
<noel> they learned
<Faerin_wrk> I disagree with that completely
<Faerin_wrk> MMOs SHOULD be about adventuring
<Faerin_wrk> and EQ was
<Faerin_wrk> but people didn't want to play that way
<K-moll> most people who were into having fun played into their 20's and then made 800 alts that they played into the 20's
<Faerin_wrk> people would rather sit in one spot and kill the same mob over and over till theyget the drop they want
<Faerin_wrk> than explore
<K-moll> kunark was the ultimate for adventurers
<Faerin_wrk> yup
<noel> the problem though
<K-moll> especially howling stones
<noel> is again you have these barriers to entry
<noel> if you don't sit in that spot
<noel> and get that drop
<K-moll> whoever designed that zone should be rewarded with virgins
<noel> FBSS is a good example
<Faerin_wrk> bullshit
<noel> you don't have the gear to do a different encounter
<Ebumar_Wrk> HS was my FAVORITE zone
<noel> as an example
<Faerin_wrk> absolute bullshit
<noel> if you didn't have FR gear
<noel> you couldn't kill Nagafen without zerg
<noel> if you did
<noel> it was a breeze
<K-moll> that is just the way the players did it...not the way it was designed
<Faerin_wrk> that's just like saying "if you don't have an enchanter, cleric, warrior, wizard and xx, you can't do anything"
<noel> I didn't say taht
<noel> I believe it's different
<Ebumar_Wrk> uhh faerin
<Ebumar_Wrk> if i remember correctly
<K-moll> the way it was meant to be played was a group crawling through a dungeon
<Faerin_wrk> pre-velious, there was no required gear
<Ebumar_Wrk> every raid required atleast 4 clerics and 2 warriors
<BubbaGrizz> the thing that made people balk at exploring in EQ was that it was a bitch to do a CR and lose exp in the process
<Vannoth> christ you guys are chatty today
<Faerin_wrk> resist gear was needed, yes, but it was plentifull
<Faerin_wrk> there was no one spawn you HAD to camp
<noel> if you were a melee of any kind
<K-moll> which?
<Ebumar_Wrk> yeah right dude, i totally HAD to camp that ykesha for my ranger gimp
<noel> you needed haste
<BubbaGrizz> discovering Perma was the most fun I had in that game
<Faerin_wrk> I was an SK
<Ebumar_Wrk> (never played him)
<Faerin_wrk> my first haste was a CoF
<noel> I agree bubba
<noel> that may have been my last
<noel> I can't remember
<Faerin_wrk> most of our guild had no haste
<Faerin_wrk> when we killed vox/nag
<Ebumar_Wrk> my first haste on Ebumar (pre-ban), was an FBSS that i ninja looted from some fool group that invited me and then killed frenzy right away
<BubbaGrizz> When OoK explored Perma we had a blast
<Ebumar_Wrk> then i got caught dupign and got banned FUN FUN
<Ebumar_Wrk> god damnit
<Ebumar_Wrk> STILL BITTER DUNNIk
<Ebumar_Wrk> STILL BITTER
<BubbaGrizz> warping goblins and all
<noel> I still think there *was* gear you had to have
<noel> it wasn't set in stone
<Faerin_wrk> that's what I'm getting at ... people got these ideas in their head that they HAD to have item X and item Y, and HAD to group with class C and D in order to progress
<K-moll> almost every zone had something you could use at raid level
<K-moll> everyone used to think you HAD to be dual wielding yaks
<Faerin_wrk> and it was all completely in their heads
<Ebumar_Wrk> haha faerin, my favorite group ever, on the topic of class C and D
<Ebumar_Wrk> was me
<Ebumar_Wrk> 2 bards
<Ebumar_Wrk> a rog
<noel> I'm not necessarily talking about specific items btw, more about like...
<Ebumar_Wrk> and a mage
<Ebumar_Wrk> god that group was so leet
<Ebumar_Wrk> some how
<noel> you needed to work on your AC
<noel> or you needed to up your DPS
<noel> or you needed to get some form of haste
<noel> or resists
<noel> or whatever
<Faerin_wrk> better gear helps, yes
<noel> it never ended
<noel> and due to the overcrowding
<Faerin_wrk> but you never needed to sit on a mob spawn for 4 hours to get further in the game
<K-moll> I was a stamina whore
<noel> there were few zones where you could actually crawl imho
<K-moll> mo HPs
<Faerin_wrk> there were alternatives that no one ever bothered to do, caus