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In a surprising upset Winnow beats out Kilmoll.

Past heavy weight champion Noel beats out Dregor

I chose Winnow because of his unwavering love of George Bush and Norrath

i contain no hate today!

I'm putting in a write in for Atokal.

-=Lohrno

Yeah, Midnyte, Atokal, and Kyoukan were among the top of the other poll, so why are we using all the people who didn't come close to winning?

I hate [you]

Rellix wrote:I hate [you]

Yeah, me too! Rellix really sucks!

-=Lohrno

I didn't vote but if you want to make snide comments and continue to break the only real rule we have here why don't you include me in the "heavy" "weight" category as well Atokal...

Marb

Lohrno wrote:

Rellix wrote:I hate [you]

Yeah, me too! Rellix really sucks!

-=Lohrno

[you] is such an idiot.

He obviously is a Euro fag too with all those ë's

[you] are all far to easy to fool.

Atokal wrote:Past heavy weight champion Noel beats out heavy weight Dregor

I diet and exercise all the time, FUCK YOU for making fun of my RL appearance! I'm TRYING to lose weight, but it's not easy you worthless piece of shit.

Tough choice! Does the winner get any VVs?

If so, here's a short list of the people I hate to help things along:

Brief list of people I hate!

I hate all of those people except for [you].

i get nailed by the {you} thing all the time =(

ive realized that nobody would actually say anything about me, so i just ignore it.

You should change your avatar Noel, I can't tell the difference between you too until I look at the post content.

Him first. No one should be allowed to defile Captain America. Not even a bigotted wannabe-American loser.

Oh lookie! Another atokal attempt at humor by taking pot shots at people who are quite well-liked by many in this community. Gee, ever wonder why you get bashed left and right by 90% of VV? Hell, even Searx faired better, and did so with gusto at times.

And nobody ever branded him a pederast.... welcome to #1 retard!

Canelek wrote:Oh lookie! Another atokal attempt at humor by taking pot shots at people who are quite well-liked by many in this community. Gee, ever wonder why you get bashed left and right by 90% of VV? Hell, even Searx faired better, and did so with gusto at times.

And nobody ever branded him a pederast.... welcome to #1 retard!

ROFL, when did your balls drop down junior. The pederast thing is tired and quite frankly unfunny. Why I get bashed by 90% of VV is because I have a fucking opinion, outside of brainless posts regarding grammar and spelling. Be sure and tell Searyx that you miss him and found his posts enlightening and you enjoyed his gusto.

Stick to what you know Betty Crocker, and please don't PM me this time with your lame apologies asking me to leave you alone.

I have spoken to Xoaqoa and decided that I will start posting again as a kinder, gentler, more informed person

What ever happened to kinder? The reason you get bashed on VV is because you're a douche, plain and simple.

It's the full moon coupled by the full lunar eclipse...funky things are bound to happen.

Atokal wrote:Why I get bashed by 90% of VV is because I have a fucking opinion, outside of brainless posts regarding grammar and spelling.

Actually, it's because you STILL don't know when to let things die. Couple that with the fact that you only post when you can post something negative, or make fun of someone's RL appearance, and you have a recipe for ridicule. Feel free to keep telling yourself that it's because you're opinions are fresh and insightful though.

noel wrote:

Atokal wrote:Why I get bashed by 90% of VV is because I have a fucking opinion, outside of brainless posts regarding grammar and spelling.

Actually, it's because you STILL don't know when to let things die. Couple that with the fact that you only post when you can post something negative, or make fun of someone's RL appearance, and you have a recipe for ridicule. Feel free to keep telling yourself that it's because you're opinions are fresh and insightful though.

Noel, you and I both know that your posts are very seldom enlightening or kind. You post with as much negativity as anyone on these boards. Perhaps it is the forum itself that causes such stupidity. Who knows. What I do know is that you telling me that I still don't know when to let things die is pretty silly coming from you. Fact: I let the Dregor thing go for months, but still the veiled accusations of pedophilia continue. I called Aaeamdar out for his biggotted views, and hatred directed at one group of people. Attributes he rightfully holds in contempt in others.

Fact is I believe in certain truths, I call people out friend or foe when they are full of shit. I don't blindly follow the popular opinion nor do I care when I piss you off. Obviously you have a group of people devoted to your particular brand of bullshit. Kudos to you. But I will start to value your opinion when I see it is consistant.

Many here have stated that calling me a pederast is "funny" because I get angry about it. Let me ask you if it would piss you off? Further would you care to explain to me how the rape of little kids, the molestation of innocents or kiddie porn is remotely humorous? Yet you stand by because you let your "hatred" of me dictate your morals. HAHAHA very fucking funny.

Have a nice day Mr Kettle.

Junior? My god man, I suppose we can be somewhat thankful that you have dropped "your flames are weak" from your repetoir of 'comebacks'.

However, I will throw another tired one your way since you obviously have a problem with originality...

Hi Atokal,

Thanks for the candy, but I am not so sure I want you hanging around the playground anymore.

Signed,

8 year old

Atokal wrote:Noel, you and I both know that your posts are very seldom enlightening or kind. You post with as much negativity as anyone on these boards. Perhaps it is the forum itself that causes such stupidity. Who knows. What I do know is that you telling me that I still don't know when to let things die is pretty silly coming from you. Fact: I let the Dregor thing go for months, but still the veiled accusations of pedophilia continue. I called Aaeamdar out for his biggotted views, and hatred directed at one group of people. Attributes he rightfully holds in contempt in others.

Fact is I believe in certain truths, I call people out friend or foe when they are full of shit. I don't blindly follow the popular opinion nor do I care when I piss you off. Obviously you have a group of people devoted to your particular brand of bullshit. Kudos to you. But I will start to value your opinion when I see it is consistant.

Many here have stated that calling me a pederast is "funny" because I get angry about it. Let me ask you if it would piss you off? Further would you care to explain to me how the rape of little kids, the molestation of innocents or kiddie porn is remotely humorous? Yet you stand by because you let your "hatred" of me dictate your morals. HAHAHA very fucking funny.

Let me preface what I'm about to say by stating that I'm going to try very hard to have a civil discussion with you on this matter.

On the subject of pedophilia. Do I find it funny? I've heard some jokes that make reference to it that are pretty funny. I've certainly (at times) taken pleasure from the fact that people call you a pedophile. Do I actually think sex with children/forcing sex on a child is funny? Absolutley not. Do I think you are or have ever engaged in pedophilia? Absolutely not. If I thought for a second that were true, it wouldn't be funny at any point, even when I am highly annoyed with you. To me it's the same as people who flame Midnyte for his job situation. I think it's admirable that he works two jobs if he has to. It's a hard thing to do, and I hope he doesn't always have to. Given that he's supporting children, I think it's a pretty classless flame.

You seem to be under this false impression that people call you a pedophile because I'm secretly pulling some strings or using my 'fnord Communicator'™ to ask them to do it. While I have on one occasion suggested a joke in a PM that could be directed at you on a thread, I'm not the one that instigates you being called a pedophile. That insinuation came about after you had called me a rapist, cyber-rapist, sexual predator, etc. In recent times you've been far less overt with your accusations, there have been several instances of veiled accusations against me that I don't really appreciate. That was the catalyst, and I did initially say that I thought it was a pretty classless flame. If you like I'll find the post where I said that. If you're looking to me to post in your defense every time someone calls you one, or to post that I think it's wrong to use that flame, I'm not going to do it. I don't control anyone elses morality on this board nor do I have any illusions about that.

When that fire died down, you sent a PM to Dregor that was honestly one of the meanest things I've ever read. As much as I disliked you at the time, *I* was surprised with how cruel that was. The fact that you PMed it to him instead of posting it was an interesting choice as well.

More recently, you needlessly attacked Kindo. Kindo is one of the nicest people I know from Everquest, and you didn't even need to comment on that thread. No one brought up your name or was flaming you, yet you decided to make a snide comment toward her. I just can't fathom that. I thought you were better than that even when I'm angry at you.

Finally, you constantly disrespect the moderators here. It's like you're daring them to take action. Thing is, they have better things to than police you or Cartalas. Yet without their work, this board ceases to exist. I can totally understand having an adversarial relationship with the IGN mods, but the people running this board are people we know are real people who don't have time to police every single thread. You complain constantly when people call you a pedophile yet you constantly continue with the RL personal attacks. Why should the moderators help you out when you continue to violate the one rule we have here?

I have tried on numerous occasions to respond to your posts in the CE section in the same manner I respond to Midnyte. In general I don't agree with Midnyte ever, and I flame him, but I don't wish him any ill will. In the same manner I've tried to do this to you, but you have to constantly bring up retarded shit like, shaving my legs (I'm going to do that as soon as I'm done this post) (just like I do every day) (it's far less exciting than you seem to think) (just ask any of the women that post to this forum), sending nude pics to people (what does or does not go on between two consenting adults is none of your business), or accusing me of rape or any activity remotely like it. I'd be more than willing to stop the needless, off-topic, character attacks, but you're going to have to respond in kind. I can say with some certainty that if all you ever did was have civil debates with people, and you didn't bring up people's weight (as recently as this thread), the pedophile comments would stop. Bear in mind, I have no power to stop them, but I truly believe it's a response to your negative attitude.

I'm done here. Feel free to take this with an open mind, or discount it entirely. I'm extending the olive branch here. I'm willing to put shit behind us so we can get back to disagreeing and flaming each other like two normal people, but I never want to see another reference to rape/cyber rape/etc. ever again.

PS. If you dropped the Bush Captain America avatar, it would be a huge bonus. Captain America is one of my favorite comic characters, and the Bush face is insulting.

Come here Noel so I can kick that soapbox out from underneth you.

Cartalas wrote:Come here Noel so I can kick that soapbox out from underneth you.

Bring it.

What's the best part about fucking twenty-eight year olds?




















THERE'S TWENTY OF THEM!!!!

LOL.

I was thinking of the one where...

A rabbi and a priest are walking down the street and passing a schoolyard. The priest notices a small boy playing in a sandbox and says to the rabbi, "Hey, we could fuck him."

The rabbi replies, "Out of what?"

noel wrote:

Atokal wrote:Noel, you and I both know that your posts are very seldom enlightening or kind. You post with as much negativity as anyone on these boards. Perhaps it is the forum itself that causes such stupidity. Who knows. What I do know is that you telling me that I still don't know when to let things die is pretty silly coming from you. Fact: I let the Dregor thing go for months, but still the veiled accusations of pedophilia continue. I called Aaeamdar out for his biggotted views, and hatred directed at one group of people. Attributes he rightfully holds in contempt in others.

Fact is I believe in certain truths, I call people out friend or foe when they are full of shit. I don't blindly follow the popular opinion nor do I care when I piss you off. Obviously you have a group of people devoted to your particular brand of bullshit. Kudos to you. But I will start to value your opinion when I see it is consistant.

Many here have stated that calling me a pederast is "funny" because I get angry about it. Let me ask you if it would piss you off? Further would you care to explain to me how the rape of little kids, the molestation of innocents or kiddie porn is remotely humorous? Yet you stand by because you let your "hatred" of me dictate your morals. HAHAHA very fucking funny.

Let me preface what I'm about to say by stating that I'm going to try very hard to have a civil discussion with you on this matter.

On the subject of pedophilia. Do I find it funny? I've heard some jokes that make reference to it that are pretty funny. I've certainly (at times) taken pleasure from the fact that people call you a pedophile. Do I actually think sex with children/forcing sex on a child is funny? Absolutley not. Do I think you are or have ever engaged in pedophilia? Absolutely not. If I thought for a second that were true, it wouldn't be funny at any point, even when I am highly annoyed with you. To me it's the same as people who flame Midnyte for his job situation. I think it's admirable that he works two jobs if he has to. It's a hard thing to do, and I hope he doesn't always have to. Given that he's supporting children, I think it's a pretty classless flame.

You seem to be under this false impression that people call you a pedophile because I'm secretly pulling some strings or using my 'fnord Communicator'™ to ask them to do it. While I have on one occasion suggested a joke in a PM that could be directed at you on a thread, I'm not the one that instigates you being called a pedophile. That insinuation came about after you had called me a rapist, cyber-rapist, sexual predator, etc. In recent times you've been far less overt with your accusations, there have been several instances of veiled accusations against me that I don't really appreciate. That was the catalyst, and I did initially say that I thought it was a pretty classless flame. If you like I'll find the post where I said that. If you're looking to me to post in your defense every time someone calls you one, or to post that I think it's wrong to use that flame, I'm not going to do it. I don't control anyone elses morality on this board nor do I have any illusions about that.

When that fire died down, you sent a PM to Dregor that was honestly one of the meanest things I've ever read. As much as I disliked you at the time, *I* was surprised with how cruel that was. The fact that you PMed it to him instead of posting it was an interesting choice as well.

More recently, you needlessly attacked Kindo. Kindo is one of the nicest people I know from Everquest, and you didn't even need to comment on that thread. No one brought up your name or was flaming you, yet you decided to make a snide comment toward her. I just can't fathom that. I thought you were better than that even when I'm angry at you.

Finally, you constantly disrespect the moderators here. It's like you're daring them to take action. Thing is, they have better things to than police you or Cartalas. Yet without their work, this board ceases to exist. I can totally understand having an adversarial relationship with the IGN mods, but the people running this board are people we know are real people who don't have time to police every single thread. You complain constantly when people call you a pedophile yet you constantly continue with the RL personal attacks. Why should the moderators help you out when you continue to violate the one rule we have here?

I have tried on numerous occasions to respond to your posts in the CE section in the same manner I respond to Midnyte. In general I don't agree with Midnyte ever, and I flame him, but I don't wish him any ill will. In the same manner I've tried to do this to you, but you have to constantly bring up retarded shit like, shaving my legs (I'm going to do that as soon as I'm done this post) (just like I do every day) (it's far less exciting than you seem to think) (just ask any of the women that post to this forum), sending nude pics to people (what does or does not go on between two consenting adults is none of your business), or accusing me of rape or any activity remotely like it. I'd be more than willing to stop the needless, off-topic, character attacks, but you're going to have to respond in kind. I can say with some certainty that if all you ever did was have civil debates with people, and you didn't bring up people's weight (as recently as this thread), the pedophile comments would stop. Bear in mind, I have no power to stop them, but I truly believe it's a response to your negative attitude.

I'm done here. Feel free to take this with an open mind, or discount it entirely. I'm extending the olive branch here. I'm willing to put shit behind us so we can get back to disagreeing and flaming each other like two normal people, but I never want to see another reference to rape/cyber rape/etc. ever again.

PS. If you dropped the Bush Captain America avatar, it would be a huge bonus. Captain America is one of my favorite comic characters, and the Bush face is insulting.

I have in the past apologized for the PM I sent to Dregor. I will not do so again. I appreciate the "olive branch" but when you surround this branch with bullshit I am not interested. The leg shaving thing, the bicycle thing and how much body fat you carry around are not things to be ashamed of. Hell Man I wish I had the commitment to exercise like you do.

Your problem is you see yourself through some magic glass that removes all your own bullshit.

How many times did you attack Xyun on the drug issue?
Or Taly for being stupid? (which she is not) Which I felt was beneath you.
Or Me with this pederast bullshit.
Or Cartalas for his one liners

Yet you call me out.

How many months did I ignore Dregors shit before I finally responded?
Yet you call me out.

Further I will not change my avatar, it was not done to piss you off. Frankly I don't find your avatar insulting at all. Some form of protest I suppose. Why did you change your name to Noel?

And as to Kindo, she handled something very very poorly that hurt a very good friend of mine. She did something that was well beneath her. So as I stated earlier friend or foe I call bullshit when I see it.

I'm not going to bother with point by point. You've made your decision; which I find wholly disappointing, but whatever.

I've never called you a pederast or a pedophile.

Cartalas reaps what he sows.

Atokal wrote:Why did you change your name to Noel?

1. It's my name.
2. You were calling me Noel in almost every thread anyway.
3. I haven't used the name Aranuil since EQ and it's a bit out of place.

I just wanted to point out that the only thing I asked for (condition if you prefer) was the following:

• Don't ever call me or insinuate that I am a: rapist, cyber-rapist, etc.

The fact that you can't even agree to that says quite a bit. Again, this is coming from someone who has never stooped to calling you a pedophile.

I also made the following suggestions for what I thought would improve your posting experience here and possibly eliminated the pedophile flame:

• Show some respect for the moderators here.
• No longer make RL attacks based on appearance.

How either of those things indicate I'm wearing a magic glass that filters my own bullshit is beyond me.

Lets just make a Noel vs Atokal thread.

Atokal wrote:And as to Kindo, she handled something very very poorly that hurt a very good friend of mine. She did something that was well beneath her. So as I stated earlier friend or foe I call bullshit when I see it.

If you want to have an opinion on something you only have one side of, that's fine, but leave it off VV. You put me in the mind of an old lady who likes to spread malicious gossip in the neighborhood because it makes her the center of attention. My personal life is my business and not yours and certainly not the VV community's.

Just support your friend in this if that's what you want to do, but don't attack me on a public message board where most people have nfc what you're talking about.

Or Taly for being stupid? (which she is not) Which I felt was beneath you.

Well, I disagree... that is all

Kindo

Amsterdam! YAY!

noel wrote:

Cartalas wrote:Come here Noel so I can kick that soapbox out from underneth you.

Bring it.

Wouldnt last 30 seconds biker boy. But I guess I wouldnt expect to much from a guy who left a game due to a gone bad love interest.

Leelee?

Save the drama for your momma!

Hey Kilmoll.
Sup!

Cartalas wrote:Wouldnt last 30 seconds biker boy. But I guess I wouldnt expect to much from a guy who left a game due to a gone bad love interest.

Best thing that ever happened to me!

What that has to do with 'how long I would last', I have no idea!

noel wrote:

Cartalas wrote:Wouldnt last 30 seconds biker boy. But I guess I wouldnt expect to much from a guy who left a game due to a gone bad love interest.

Best thing that ever happened to me!

What that has to do with 'how long I would last', I have no idea!

Aranuil didnt leave because of a bad love interest issue, he and I decided to just be friends. Why the hate? Two men can have a completely plutonic relationship in this modern age!

hey Kilmoll. SUP!

But once you get Noel into the Sailor Uranus suit, I think it stops being platonic......

edit: Holy shit, are my eyes decieving me, or is Cart the eastern Minnesotta wet behind the ears wonder boy who is still being weened off of his mom's teet playing the IRL PEEKAY!! card? Now that truely is funny.

Leelee? What? What did I miss on this one? Someone PM me with explicit details so I can give her a hard time!

Marb

I swear on my bicycle in all it's carbon-fiber goodness that NOTHING ever happened between Leelee and I.

If I refuse to vote, will I be banished?!

*cheesy South Park pun*

Jice Virago wrote:But once you get Noel into the Sailor Uranus suit, I think it stops being platonic......

edit: Holy shit, are my eyes decieving me, or is Cart the eastern Minnesotta wet behind the ears wonder boy who is still being weened off of his mom's teet playing the IRL PEEKAY!! card? Now that truely is funny.

This wet behind the ears eastern Minnesota boy as you call it has lived in New York City,LA,Dallas,Chicago,Detroit and Miami. And am i playing the IRL PK card? hmmm lets just say if I ever get the pleasure of meeting a few of you at a fan faire we will see how bold you are.

Atokal wrote:Fact is I believe in certain truths, I call people out friend or foe when they are full of shit. I don't blindly follow the popular opinion nor do I care when I piss you off. Obviously you have a group of people devoted to your particular brand of bullshit. Kudos to you. But I will start to value your opinion when I see it is consistant.

Amen to that.

Cartalas wrote:This we behind the ears easter Minnesota boy as you call it has lived in New York City,LA,Dallas,Chicago,Detroit and Miami. And am i playing the IRL PK card? hmmm lets just say if I ever get the pleasure of meeting a few of you at a fan faire we will see how bold you are.

I'm sorry, did you just say you wanted to be in a homosexual triple-team at Fan Faire?!?!

Dude, you're depraved.

noel wrote:

Cartalas wrote:This we behind the ears easter Minnesota boy as you call it has lived in New York City,LA,Dallas,Chicago,Detroit and Miami. And am i playing the IRL PK card? hmmm lets just say if I ever get the pleasure of meeting a few of you at a fan faire we will see how bold you are.

I'm sorry, did you just say you wanted to be in a homosexual triple-team at Fan Faire?!?!

Dude, you're depraved.

Why? is that what you are into Stalker boy?

noel wrote:you constantly continue with the RL personal attacks. Why should the moderators help you out when you continue to violate the one rule we have here?

The one rule you have...when it suits your purposes. You have personally violated this "rule". And now, here you are...once again being a hypocrite. Tell me, do you believe your own hype?

That wasn't an offer.

I know you're not threatening all of us, so I was just trying to figure out what you're after.

Cartalas wrote:

Jice Virago wrote:But once you get Noel into the Sailor Uranus suit, I think it stops being platonic......

edit: Holy shit, are my eyes decieving me, or is Cart the eastern Minnesotta wet behind the ears wonder boy who is still being weened off of his mom's teet playing the IRL PEEKAY!! card? Now that truely is funny.

This wet behind the ears eastern Minnesota boy as you call it has lived in New York City,LA,Dallas,Chicago,Detroit and Miami. And am i playing the IRL PK card? hmmm lets just say if I ever get the pleasure of meeting a few of you at a fan faire we will see how bold you are.

Chances are you'd be ignored, much like Atokal was.