VeeshanVault

I see you are eagerly awaiting SWG, even though it sounds more that a DAOC of SW stuff (i.e. dumbed down for the masses) I find this intriguing. Following your ninjajedimastertricks, I want to be able to maximize my effective DPHP ratio ( dollars per hour played) and am seeking your advice.

This one is easy if you read "Xan's Manual for Fucking Friends".

Step one is to establish yourself in a leadership position.
Step two is to skim as much as you can of the group's cash and items.
Step 3 is to set up a good account on e-bay.
Step 4 is to sell off little things that no one would miss.
Step 5 is to cash in fast with the big items.
Step 6 is to sell your account before anyone notices that it was you and before the game hits a downswing and you lose value on it.
Step 7 is to deny and look for the next game.
Step 8 is to tell people how much better it is to not play the game anymore and encourage them to move on.
Step 9 is for you to suck my dick for ass raping friends.

Much angry in these two.

Angry leads to hate.
Hate leads to suffering.
Suffering leads to not reading the board anymore.

Yes.

I give this thread a 9 for potential, but a 4 for where it will actually go due to retards who like to derail threads because they seem to be against drama (the reason this board exists).

I am however eagerly awaiting a reply from Xanupox... nothing cheers me up more than seeing that ignore message (btw Grizz, thanks for all the useless spam you post, I get to see that message so much!)

So he eBayed. Big deal. Maybe he just realized the shitpile CT had turned into. Hell, in another month, you would have been giving ME an invite!

You know, since STFU was added Searyx has become much more of an interesting poster.

But I do wonder why all he ever has to say is, "You have added this person to your Ignore List. Click HERE to view this post."

DAM i was looking forward to SWG

Can Xanu have his own server to himself ?

You are correct, I should have just given my account and items to one of the loyalists of CT...a person who was there at the start, who never changed classes, who never quit or put undue strains on the guild... but wait there was no such persons.

In all the time the guild (CT) has existed, there is not ONE person who has refrained from pulling a temper tantrum and quitiing at one time or another, that I would have felt trustworthly of the account and its name.

So I sold what I owned, I changed the name of the character I owned and then I sold it as well. So there you have it.

Several of you were loyal to me and I know who you were, however the majority of you were only loyal to the loot machine that CT was and still is to this day. As long as the person leading the guild is able to provide a guidance to achieve time on target (raids on mobs) that provide mass loot for the drooling masses, then I guess all is well.

CT stopped being a guild of friends, hell it never was a "guild of friends" it was a guild with an ambition to do things, that smaller guilds could not do alone. The guild was a pure loot aquiring machine for the greedy.

I had the most of my pleasure controlling every single aspect of the guild from A to Z, pushing buttons, dealing the loot, picking the targets, making the groups, designing the tactics, pushing for advancment.

In the end, the game grew dreadful. The people that was in the guild peaked out with thier ability to learn and progress. Due to RL talents, schedules and the inability for the guild to retain well geared members, I saw the end had drawn to a close for me.

I did not stab any of my friends in the back, I did not hide anything I did nor did I have a reason to do so.

The facts were:

I reacted harsh and sternly against Ebayers previous to my Ebaying. Why? Why even ask why! Is'nt it obvious that a "general" as Tarrus used to call me would basically say and do anything to his "army" which CT was to me, to ensure they remained disciplined and focused. If fear of being made an outcast, or fear of retribution was instilled then perhaps I could squeeze 1 or 2 more months of playing time from a highly equipped individual. Perhaps that would give a person that little bit more of an incentive to stay up for 1 or 2 more hours on a weeknight.

I did what had to be done for the benefit and advancment of CT. No one can honestly say there has ever been anyone else in the lead of the guild that comes close to making the sacrafices I did with my personal reputation and ambitions that I forced upon others, again for the good of the guild.

You may hate me, you may not even give a shit about it... The fact remains however that not a single member of CT, past or present can tell me that I never gave 110% for the guild. In my eyes CT could do no wrong, that was obvious and at times caused massive grief for other guilds, but I did was had to be done at the times I did it for the progression and succession of CT.

I left when the thrills of managing the players was no longer there. Simple enough.

The CT machine peaked off, topped out and was on a steady downhill slide. I did not have the patience for a rebuild, CT version 3.0. I left the guild in the hands of Zairus, who has since passed it onto Thess.

Even after I quit playing the game, I waited for the right time to announce my intentions. Still, weeks after I stopped playing I was thinking of the guilds goals and intentions for survival.

You same people that once used to say you had my back 150%, and you knew I had yours ALWAYS, come here and try to piss me off and talk shit about me.

Kilmoll, I helped you stay in EQ when Belfrain was boring. I took my personal time to help level you up and keep the game fun for you, even though at the time Wizards were highly desired and you were switching classes on me. I let you use Zindell for months as I paid for the account, free resses, personal cleric... Thanks.

Kylere, why would you of all people try to diss me now? So fucking what, I ebayed! I did it months beyond when the game stopped being fun for me. Would you hang around and do something EVERYDAY for 6-8 hours for the respect and benefit of others, because you do not want the organization to crumble? Thats exactly what I did, and if anyone tries to say it wouldnt have come crashing down without me, and if anyone says CT is stronger without Xanupox leading, I laugh in your fucking face.

If you want to ask what I did for CT's stability then you can Private message Thess, she I am sure can explain in detail for you.

To the others that replied to this thread, as I often say... You DONT know me at all, so you can shut your damn pie holes. I stayed secluded to my guild when I played. Only grouped with CT, only raided CT only talked to CT. To me the game of EQ was based on and around CT, everyone else was just in the way. I am sure you already knew that.

Xan

Sure we know you. You're the air force's top elite sniper, bailing out of your F-15 at mach 1 over enemy territory with a PSG-1 clenched in your teeth and a photo of Saddam Hussein tucked into your back pocket.

Well,

Since we are going to go all out on my tactics and specific gear please include the Top-Secret cannister of the rare three-eyed monkey's shit that was cross-fusioned with rabid river otter's ass flesh, in which a sample was used to make the specimen we refer to as...

a Kyoukan

Dregor i think you are wrong, this looks like it does have potential.

damn dude, that was unfunny. I have to stop making fun of you because your comebacks are so awful that I feel sorry for you. It's like picking on retarded children on the bus. I'm really sorry; I feel really bad.

Fuck off and die then.

"Kilmoll, I helped you stay in EQ when Belfrain was boring. I took my personal time to help level you up and keep the game fun for you, even though at the time Wizards were highly desired and you were switching classes on me. I let you use Zindell for months as I paid for the account, free resses, personal cleric... Thanks."

I think what you MEANT to say was 'I begged you to stop playing Kilmoll so we could have Belfrain come to every raid even though we had 12 wizards. I gave you Zindell to play, even though you had a friends cleric you were working on, so that you could level my account up to make it more valuable when it comes time to sell. Thanks for the gear and items you left in the bank. I bought myself a good man plowing didlo for my hole with the extra cash. It was great of you to level her from 39 to 54 for me....Thanks'

You are right that no one put the time in like you did. Not loyal? We are not the ones who cashed in. You want loyal to friends? I am splitting my account to help friends from CT even though I am no longer a member. Not about the cause? Do you realize how much shit I passed on to help CT members get upgrades? Hellllllooooo tunare dagger. You put your time in, but you DON'T want to point fingers at loyalty. And let me tell you....I can name one member who showed more loyalty and dedication to you and any other 3 members of CT combined. Tiglat. I could go on for hours, but I don't think anyone has the time to read it all.

Everyone knew Xan was leaving the reason CT is still around today is simply - he waited until the guild was on a good note, after the guild had somewhat faith in the other officers to kill things and get stuff done. This took a few months for us to get our acts together. Once we were on an up note - Xan posted his goodbye.

During his leave he also posted several times just so the guild could see his presence.

That is what saved CT. There is no doubt in my mind that that is why we were able to even begin to climb out of the deep hole we were in. I thanked Xan at the time for it and I have also gotten advice from him several times since he left.

Thess wrote:Everyone knew Xan was leaving the reason CT is still around today is simply - he waited until the guild was on a good note, after the guild had somewhat faith in the other officers to kill things and get stuff done. This took a few months for us to get our acts together. Once we were on an up note - Xan posted his goodbye.

During his leave he also posted several times just so the guild could see his presence.

That is what saved CT. There is no doubt in my mind that that is why we were able to even begin to climb out of the deep hole we were in. I thanked Xan at the time for it and I have also gotten advice from him several times since he left.

I can't tell if you're serious or if you're joking, but if you're joking, that was funny as hell.

I am serious.

Was Xan a nice guy? Hell no - I remember days being pissed as hell at him because of what an asshole he was.

Did Xan save CT? Yes, several times, including on his way out the door.

Did Xan save CT when he left?

Well. Yes. But CT was saved because he (and another) left, not because of anything he did when he left.

Under Xans tenure CT went thru a decline. More solid, base, long time members left during his tenure than anyone elses. I nastily pointed out the major problem while he was in control, and was left hung out to dry. Enough long time CT members left during his time to start up an entirely new guild (Legacy of Virtue), and others just got fed up with his treatment of guildmembers and left the game. When he (and another) left the guild, several of these people (including me) came back to the guild. Also, Xans departure made it much MUCH easier to recruit new members.

The return of former members and the ability to recruit quality people, combined with an influx of new officers is what "saved" CT.

CT was saved because Xan left.

Homercles wrote:Enough long time CT members left during his time to start up an entirely new guild

So what is that, like 1%?

I agree with that completely as well Homer. It was a lot of things happened to get us out of the hole we were in. Me and a lot of other officers and even members worked our asses off to get CT stabalized.

OMG I GET THAT JOKE!111! YOU ARE SAYING THERE WAS A LOT OF CT!!! OMG THAT IS SO ORIGINAL!@!!!

Edit: cunt!

Hey sometimes you have to revisit the classics.

I think secretly kilmoll really likes me.

Christ I was just gonna farm for ebay on a second sys while playing EQ

Did not need a guild history.

There was no single factor that turned around CT. CT didn't need a turn around. It was just a slow time for the guild and . Many factors including Xanupox leaving, dedicated people like tosh and thess, (plenty more), and hard working REGULAR members of CT helped the guild revive and stay strong.

Whatever happened to Tiglat? He and I were in OCD long before CT was around, I'd like to contact him. Anyone know if he still lives in Germany?

I think he does Kal. I was in OCD with him too, but like way way way before you. Heh, he joined when I was still on my cleric I think.

Tigs still plays and still lives in Germany. He doesn't play as much anymore - but he plays when he gets the chance to. I'll tell him you are looking for him.

Hello !

my mail is sascha@psp.net if you want to get in touch.

I am not commenting on the Main Topic.

Nice new VAULT - thanks for building it, Machine.

Tiglat aka Sascha

Xanupox:

Not that this whole thread matters anymore, but when it comes to EQ I sort of have a nostalgia about the whole thing.

As I recall my old and fav EQ memories, I realize that you (and CT as a guild of course) comprise the great many of them. Our first NToV clearings (omfg we managed to do what only FOH was able to do, up to that point) ... our first killing of Aary to "legitimize" our presence there. That took great leadership and dedication and devotion on behalf of the whole guild to accomplish. We were not near as well equipped or "learned in the ways off all things Verant" as FoH, and despite their rebukings represented awesome success for CT and put us at #2 guild on the server.

You were a good leader. Personality clashes will happen. It seems like everyone outside of CT hated you, and it seems some inside CT are still bitter and hold grudges for whatever reason, but imo you were usually fair to those who deserved it and were always clear about what you expected from everyone.

In guild chat the other night we actually talked about a funny memory from plane of hate .. It was sad that only a few members recalled the memory (lots of old timers now retired)... We were on second floor in hate, working towards Inny kill I think, and anyways *everything* on the floor fucking aggroed. We had about 20+ mobs total, I think. Shit kept adding, you were barking out orders in guild chat, casters and clerics were dropping like flies -- it was pure chaos.

About 15 seconds pass then, and there was nothing said in guild chat. Mobs continue to mow people down, and I'm thinking "Jeeeeeziz this is gonna be a dirty wipe".. The seconds continue to tick by, and I'm just waiting for you to order clerics to camp...

Then you pipe up with "any enchanters have mezz memmed?"

Well, I just about fell out of my chair and pissed my pants. =) It was soooo funny for so many reasons. I couldn't tell if you were angry/sarcastic or just curious/bewildered -- I'm not sure if I have ever laughed so hard in my life. What a fucking blood bath that turned out to be. Funny memory

We kicked some ass, bro. To be honest, I miss you playing. I don't fault you for quitting and ebaying -- I've tried leaving before too -- I just feel like a lot of ill-will directed at you is not entirely deserved. You seem to take it in stride, which is cool. I'll always remember your devotion to CT and what you helped us accomplish.

CT is doing great, these days. While it hurts to lose well-outfitted members, we continue to pick up great players and move foward. They only thing we haven't killed yet is Emporer, but as we near key completion for the guild that day is drawing near. And everyone is excited about Planes of Power. Our officer core, imo, is stronger than ever and with Thess at the helm we continue to get things done.

Anyways I guess I should get back to work heh. My boss wondering wtf am I doing over here. Seeya around bro.

Gung

Tiglat,

JACKASS!

I do believe Kilmoll teh kyouk!

Troo love!

My dirty undies after riding through a cows digestive system > Kyoukan

By the way, Kyoukan is a man.

Xanupox wrote: I stayed secluded to my guild when I played. Only grouped with CT, only raided CT only talked to CT. To me the game of EQ was based on and around CT, everyone else was just in the way. I am sure you already knew that.
Xan

No shit sherlock! This is why so many had CR's cause u and your sorry band of loot whores had to steamroll everyone elses hard work ya jackass!

I for one am glad u are gone and hoep to never see ya in another game =P You are one who doesnt play for the fun of it, You are one who is out for himself. Screw everyone else =P

I am glad CT no longer has you around cause now i find there are good people in that guild without your sorry influence

K i feel better =)

First off, learn the truth before you flame dipshit. So you got steam rolled. Get over it. It's going to happen a lot more. That's what happens with the amount of high end guilds on Veeshan. There aren;t enough raid style mobs so everyone is stepping on each other's toes.

Secondly, unlike ALL of you, I have had the honor of knowing Xan IRL for over 2 years. He introduced me to Everquest. He helped me out more than anyone ever has with my countless questions on everything under the sun. There was a time I was awe inspired by the tales he would tell about the guild's accomplishments and there was a time I aspired to be a member of CT. No longer. I have found a great group of friends and I'm happy where I am.

I saw day in and day out the toll it took on him physically to gear 80+ people up. I saw what it took out of him to keep CT happy, keep CT running as smoothly as possible. I remember the times he stayed up 30+ hours to get shit done. CT was his life and you all have the balls to question his loyalty? And I'm not referring to EVERYONE. I know a lot of you do realize what he did for CT and have thanked him for it. But for everyone else that is pissed at him, just leave him alone. Bitching at him about it isn't going to solve anything. So he Ebayed. So fucking what. All of you will too whenever you decide to leave this game.

Want to know what CT has become everyone? I was in the Arena in Bazaar the other night on my Level 18 Beastlord Alt. A friend of mine, a lvl 46 Cleric wanted to solo my pet. So we head to the arena where Pyronius Flamebringer and Kilantiz Whatever were sitting there hanging out. So we jump in and the cleric starts tanking my pet when Pyronius decides to nuke the cleric dead and say"Don't pick on noobs". Now before all of this, me and Pyro were cool..or so I thought. So he tells me he has a message for Xan and wants me to give it to him. I accept and then get nuked to death. So I get a tell from him saying" Sorry dude, meant to give you the message, not kill you." Well I head back to the Arena and start to loot my corpse when he nukes me again. So another person there, Vallick, uses his cleric Galan to rez me. I get rezzed and go to loot again only to get nuked again. Well Vallick dragged them outside the Arena and rezzed, but is this what CT has lowered itself to? You have nothing better to do that camp a noob alt's corpse? How old are you Pyronius and what crawled up your ass and died? Sadly enough, CT's reputation has worsened since Xan left due to shit like this. That is just some awesome control the officers have over the rest of CT. Nice job.

CT was always like that Lindain
Oh and No most guilds dont Steamroll they wait til the guild there first gives its attempt duh

Please tell me you dont still play?

Yes I do play and honestly, I'm hoping you don't. And did I say every guild steamrolls? No I didn't. If you learned to read better, I said:

"So you got steam rolled. Get over it. It's going to happen a lot more. That's what happens with the amount of high end guilds on Veeshan. There aren't enough raid style mobs so everyone is stepping on each other's toes."

Where in that statement did I ever say every guild steam rolls? All I was trying to point out is that with the number of high end guilds all gunning for the same mobs, steam rolling is bound to happen, whether on purpose or by accident.

Want to know what CT has become everyone?

< Nuke dead story deleted for space>

but is this what CT has lowered itself to? You have nothing better to do that camp a noob alt's corpse? How old are you Pyronius and what crawled up your ass and died? Sadly enough, CT's reputation has worsened since Xan left due to shit like this. That is just some awesome control the officers have over the rest of CT.

Lol. One person does something you don't like and all the sudden it's what "CT has become"? Please, get a grip. Officers can't monitor everyone 24 hours a day though you seem to think otherwise. If a member does something you don't agree with, send a tell to an Officer. Don't assume everything a member does an Officer knows about or agrees with.

(No. I'm not an officer but it seems common sense to me)

Well I'm sorry for that outburst Aslanna. I know CT is a great guild and you guys probably have a blast all the time or most of the time. And I know your officers can't watch everyone every minute of everyday. But even if I told an officer, what would have been done? In my mind, nothing would have been done. Hell, the officer(s) would probably laugh at the situation and applaud Pyro for it. But I don't know if that is true or not so I won't make that accusation. I don't want to judge CT as a whole for the actions of one person. But what am I or someone else supposed to think if the actions of this person? If this type of activty is allowed to go on, does that not make the guild as a whole look bad for allowing it? Just my 2 copper.

The fact of the matter is just about every guild has jerks in it. You shouldn't think anything about a guild based on the actions of one person. If one person does something you don't like then they are a jerk. If every member of a guild does something you don't like then yeah, one could infer the whole guild is one to keep away from.

Guess what I'm saying is judge someone on who they are and not what guild they are in. And vice-versa.

God Pyro, what a fucking Jackass...sheesh.

Seriously, Pyro is a good guy. He just gets bored sometimes and decides to find some mischief. Don't judge CT just because of him. Hell give him a second chance. Who knows, maybe somewhere down the road you'll be laughing over that one night sometime...I know I've seen some good pranks he's pulled.

Yes Ladain i still play and ill bet i have a much better reputation then you =P

You were in the Arena and you are mad about being killed?

And then you were standing in the arena looting your corpse and you are mad about someone killing you?

Whenever someone kills me in the arena and I go to my corpse - I make damn sure I am not in the arena for long with no gear.

My suggestion would be to next time - target your corpse, pull it to the side and then loot your gear and do not enter the arena again.

Aslanna wrote:The fact of the matter is just about every guild has jerks in it. You shouldn't think anything about a guild based on the actions of one person. If one person does something you don't like then they are a jerk. If every member of a guild does something you don't like then yeah, one could infer the whole guild is one to keep away from.

Guess what I'm saying is judge someone on who they are and not what guild they are in. And vice-versa.

There is a difference between having a jerk in your guild and having a guild follow one.

Umm Trek, how many guilds do not have jerks leading them ( in the eyes of other guilds)?

Now redo that list with guilds that can effectively kill outside of Mistmoore and Lower Guk.

thx point made

There is a difference between having a jerk in your guild and having a guild follow one.

You shouldn't call Thess a jerk. You big meanie!

Isn't meanie a bit strong? I prefer bully. :) Much more down to earth, and all ages can understand it. Hehe

Lin think about what you just wrote you tool.

And I know your officers can't watch everyone every minute of everyday. But even if I told an officer, what would have been done? In my mind, nothing would have been done. Hell, the officer(s) would probably laugh at the situation and applaud Pyro for it.

In your previous post you defend Xanupox, you think your situation would have been any different when Xan was in charge. Damn man he would have nuked your entire guild and camped the corpses just for shits and giggles.

Suggested reading (any thread on the old vault pertaining to the old CT)

New CT > Xanupox

/em wonders how long it will take for Aranuil to jump Minfetter

Wake up.

"Under Xans tenure CT went thru a decline. More solid, base, long time members left during his tenure than anyone elses. I nastily pointed out the major problem while he was in control, and was left hung out to dry. Enough long time CT members left during his time to start up an entirely new guild (Legacy of Virtue), and others just got fed up with his treatment of guildmembers and left the game. When he (and another) left the guild, several of these people (including me) came back to the guild. Also, Xans departure made it much MUCH easier to recruit new members."

Gee homer, I wonder who that (another person) was. I remember your "nastiliy pointing out of that problem".

I was in the arena and I GOT NUKED!!!! OMFG YOU ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!!