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But think of all the people in your life who have died of the diseases I mentioned: were they vegan?

Boogahz wrote:Everyone I knew ate vegetables too.

Spang wrote:

Boogahz wrote:Everyone I knew ate vegetables too.

Vegetables don't clog arteries.

Boogahz wrote:Nobody said their arteries were clogged.

Spang wrote:

Boogahz wrote:Nobody said their arteries were clogged.

Vegetables aren't a contributing factor in diabetes, strokes or Alzheimer's, either.

Boogahz wrote:If they consumed both, in moderation, how do you know it wasn't the vegetables?

Funkmasterr wrote:Well it's a good thing you're an all knowing professional on any and everything to do with nutrition and so willing to tell us what we need to do, otherwise we would be completely fucking lost.

Spang wrote:

Funkmasterr wrote:Well it's a good thing you're an all knowing professional on any and everything to do with nutrition and so willing to tell us what we need to do, otherwise we would be completely fucking lost.

Feel free to refute any of my arguments.

miir wrote:Feel free to refute any of ours... you know, with actual facts.

Spang wrote: I've been debating you people all goddamn thread. Most of my arguments can't be refuted

Spang wrote:

Boogahz wrote:Nobody said their arteries were clogged.

Vegetables aren't a contributing factor in diabetes, strokes or Alzheimer's, either.

Aslanna wrote:Have you ever heard of High Fructose Corn Syrup?

Aslanna wrote:The corn stands for CORN! Which as you may not know is a vegetable. I'd say this shit is a bigger threat to peoples health than meat.

Spang wrote:

Aslanna wrote:The corn stands for CORN! Which as you may not know is a vegetable. I'd say this shit is a bigger threat to peoples health than meat.

High-fructose corn syrup absolutely is a threat to people's health...because it's a processed food.

miir wrote:Tobacco is a vegetable and it's killed tons of people.

Aslanna wrote:Processed... vegetable.

Spang wrote:

miir wrote:Tobacco is a vegetable and it's killed tons of people.

With the help of a shitload of cancer-causing chemicals.

Spang wrote:

Aslanna wrote:Processed... vegetable.

It looks like we both agree that processed food is bad for you.

Oh c'mon, just admit it, we all know it's true, but never talk about it. Maybe some of you medical people can tell us. Why do vegans smell so awful? Do they really not notice that dreadful stench, or is it a gradual problem that increases so slowly they don't detect it? Is it caused by a dietary deficit, or by the same condition that causes them to be vegan in the first place? Is there a dietary cure for it, or do you just have to spray them with a masking agent like turpentine or oil of mercaptan, and stay upwind? What can we do to stop stinky vegans from ruining our bus rides, meals, and other public activities?

Aabidano wrote:A fat heavy diet isn't the death sentence once thought either, gobs of other variables. Heredity being a big one.

Aslanna wrote:Being as corn is the largest ingredient in HFCS what I'm saying is I disagree with your statement: "Vegetables aren't a contributing factor in diabetes, strokes or Alzheimer's, either."

Spang wrote:Corn by itself isn't harmful. Corn processed into high-fructose corn syrup is. The corn isn't what's making the high-fructose corn syrup harmful.

Aslanna wrote:

Spang wrote:Corn by itself isn't harmful. Corn processed into high-fructose corn syrup is. The corn isn't what's making the high-fructose corn syrup harmful.

Without corn there could be no HFCS. Duh!

Spang wrote:

Aslanna wrote:

Spang wrote:Corn by itself isn't harmful. Corn processed into high-fructose corn syrup is. The corn isn't what's making the high-fructose corn syrup harmful.

Without corn there could be no HFCS. Duh!

There'd still be corn, and that's not harmful.

Spang wrote:There'd still be corn, and that's not harmful.

Aslanna wrote:That doesn't even make sense.

Spang wrote:Corn is not bad for you, processed food is. Also, water is wet.

According to Deborah Cooper of ProHealth.com, a website dedicated to helping people with medical issues find solutions to better manage their symptoms while living with illness, "Foods such as potatoes, tomatoes and eggplant, sometimes referred to as "nightshade foods," could be the cause of stiff joints, pain and inflammation."

Cooper goes on to say that while many doctors doubt the connection between food and arthritis symptoms, many others refer to studies supporting the theory.

VegSource.com has reported on a study of rheumatoid arthritis patients fed a low-fat vegan diet. The patients participating in the study reported afterwards that they had noticeable relief from their arthritis symptoms.

Alkaline Diet
According to the medical website Medicinenet.com, many experts recommend the alkaline diet. This diet excludes acids, which are said to trigger arthritis symptoms. This diet doesn't allow sugar, coffee, red meat or acidic fruits.

Gluten

Some food sources will be harder to avoid than others. Gluten is an example of this. Alternatives4arthritis.com reports that many people find that they have improvement in their symptoms when gluten is eliminated from their diet. Gluten is found in wheat, rye, barley and oats. The difficulty is that gluten is included as an ingredient in such a huge variety of food products that it can be hard to avoid. No one would expect to find gluten in their ice cream, but it is often used as a binding ingredient.

The good news is that as public attention has grown about this issue, there is a wide variety of gluten-free products now available at every local supermarket. Also, many commonly used products now feature a clear banner on their packaging proclaiming that it is a gluten-free product. Still, those wishing to eliminate gluten completely from their diet must become proficient at reading product labels.

Aslanna wrote:And also you're a fucking dumbass.

Spang wrote:Your rationalizations for continuing to contribute to the torture and slaughter of animals are shit. You claim that it's okay to eat meat because people have been doing it for thousands of years. But if that's the case, then we never should have ended slavery or women's suffrage. We probably should have continued the extermination of Native Americans, and not interfered with Hitler's quest to rid the world of Jews. You're participating in a holocaust right now. You'll argue that they're only animals, but you'll be repeating the same argument as Hitler, who, by the way, was not a vegetarian.

Spang wrote:

Aslanna wrote:And also you're a fucking dumbass.

Your rationalizations for continuing to contribute to the torture and slaughter of animals are shit. You claim that it's okay to eat meat because people have been doing it for thousands of years. But if that's the case, then we never should have ended slavery or women's suffrage. We probably should have continued the extermination of Native Americans, and not interfered with Hitler's quest to rid the world of Jews. You're participating in a holocaust right now. You'll argue that they're only animals, but you'll be repeating the same argument as Hitler, who, by the way, was not a vegetarian.

Tyek wrote:Wow that science is not refutable, you were right!

Spang wrote:I've been debating you people all goddamn thread. Most of my arguments can't be refuted, which is made abundantly clear when the rebuttals consist of pictures of steak, descriptions of what a person ate for lunch and lolcopters.

Spang wrote:

Aslanna wrote:And also you're a fucking dumbass.

Your rationalizations for continuing to contribute to the torture and slaughter of animals are shit. You claim that it's okay to eat meat because people have been doing it for thousands of years. But if that's the case, then we never should have ended slavery or women's suffrage. We probably should have continued the extermination of Native Americans, and not interfered with Hitler's quest to rid the world of Jews. You're participating in a holocaust right now. You'll argue that they're only animals, but you'll be repeating the same argument as Hitler, who, by the way, was not a vegetarian.

Canelek wrote:I hope your estrogen and soy-based mantits are working for you.

Canelek wrote:Ps: I fucked your mother.

Canelek wrote:Only half? Un petite? Let's see em. Show us your tits you pussy.

Spang wrote:Meat and dairy products have twice the amount of animal-based estrogen than the plant estrogen found in soy.