VeeshanVault

Nerfed isn't the correct word, think you're looking to use fixed.

It's related to this -- Charm a wraith, /pet attack an initiate faction mob (a zek initiate, a frenzied initiate, a war crow, the kobolds, and tortured souls.) When the wraith starts to cast, click your cloudy potion. The wraith's spell will hit the other mob, aggroing it on the wraith. The initiate will hit the wraith, aggroing the wraith on the initiate. The rest is fairly simple to figure out.

Regardless, the developers know about it, and it'll be fixed soon, hopefully.

Occlusion wrote:

Well how about a guide apparently found no exploitation in what we did, so uh, go cry elsewhere little buddy?

Trying to argue that this isn't an exploit is flat out retarded. If you get caught using an exploit, at least be man enough to own up to it instead of acting innocent. I showed this to Xenaida and Rytan (developers :(:() on the GoD beta server, and both were shocked. It took Rytan a few to figure out how to turn the Arena into instant respawns, even after instructions, but once he did I got them both a few AAs in 10 minutes. It's not a creative use of charm, faction, or 55+ mob death coding. It's exploiting, plain and simple.

That said, I could really care less if you exploit. Just don't act like you were innocent when you get caught.

I'm not going to deny I'm using a technique with a group of guildies to get roughly an AA every 5 - 10 minutes, but considering a GM and a guide have both found no exploitation in it, uh no, I'm not going to admit to exploiting. But I mean, if you think it is, more power to you. I'm just telling you at the moment, it's technically not.

I have 2 developers (including Rytan, who co-designed the RZtW event/pit area of Tactics) who disagree with you. Don't try to rationalize it by saying "oh, a guide who, by rule has at least one (1) character above level 30 on a live server says it's okay!11!1" You know what you're doing is an exploit, heh.

a GM = Darcfae. This "sploit" has been around for a long time, and when it was first petitioned it was ruled legit here - looks like GMs and devs are in disagreement, /shrug

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:a GM = Darcfae. This "sploit" has been around for a long time, and when it was first petitioned it was ruled legit here - looks like GMs and devs are in disagreement, /shrug

Did you not read that the topic of this thread?

If they're banning people for it, it's obviously considered an exploit.

Exploiting faction bugs is no different than exploiting pathing bugs, no matter how hard you try to delude yourself.

I once knew a man
Died from bowel occlusion
What a way to go

Ok. I would like to see proof of said bannings. I doubt that they would take a course of action this harsh for something that has not even been declared a bannable offense by SOE. We had a Guide and a GM tonight come and ask us not to do it due to the flood of petitions created from certain individuals. Both said we have no official ruling. Hell, GM said I wouldn't do it, but when cornered and asked if anyone would be banned for using this, he could not say weither or not they would. This exp method (nice wording huh) has been around for a rather long time, and as with most tricks found of this nature, was kept as quiet as possible. Truth is, a number of us recently found this method and have been playing with it. Its more fun to just train the shit out of the mobs themselves than anything, and I would probably continue doing it just because its insanely fun.

Getting back to the point, it has been around for a long time, and other individuals from other high end guilds have been using it. The difference is... we made some FS people jealous.

Its fine when uber_guild1, 2, and 3 do it. But its suddenly a problem when a member of Fiends plays with it too? This thread smells of bullshit. I have pics and logs too of lots of people doing this, yet its not brought to this forum then? Thats exactly the reason I was so sarcastic in the beginning of this thread, it is obvious its not directed at the so called bug, its entirely in regards to Fiends members using it. It seems a few certain guilds really get their panties in a bunch when Fiends does anything.

Its ok, keep hating, keep being upset. I'll just keep laughing that 1 of the 121XegZergForce thinks im playing unfairly.



OMG I HEAR SOMEONE GOT BANNED!@! NO ONE USE THIS UBER DANGEROUS EXPLOIT!@!

Korell wrote: Getting back to the point, it has been around for a long time, and other individuals from other high end guilds have been using it. The difference is... we made some FS people jealous.

No, the difference is you're retarded enough to exploit in front of people.

And your not? Wasn't that you in zone today? Not trying to name anyones name still.

You're fooling yourself if you think my objections to this sort of thing have anything to do with the tag you wear. Look around, there are more non-FS people posting against this shit than the FS folks (me, basically). They're all just jealous, too.

What you guys have been doing for the last few nights is nothing more than blatant abuse of a bug. Fiends were mentioned initially (and not by me) because you were probably the most visible. Were there a few others involved? Sure, I saw a few of them, and I have an issue with them as much as anyone else that's been using this exploit. At various times, I saw members of Fiends, Cyclones of Fury, FoH and Sceptered Isle involved in this. I saw a few others just standing around watching (much as I did a few times in various forms). However, you guys (Fiends) definitely were the ring leaders of that little circus. The reason that the others haven't been mentioned explicitly (although I did imply multiple times that non-fiends were involved as well) is because you and Drinsic seem to be the only people with enough gall to actually defend the shit.

Let me stress again for those with reading comprehension difficulties: this isn't about the guilds that these cheaters belong to. Show me a member of my guild or alliance that's involved in this shit and I'll say the same fucking thing to them. It is about nothing more than a few pathetic individuals that are abusing a bug to demolish a zone for AAs and loot that they're not earning legitimately.. Every one of the fuckers involved in this deserves whatever happens to them. Don't mind me, though. I'm just jealous of your mad cheating skillz

Oh, wait... I've only known about this for a couple weeks and am perfectly capable of starting the faction war myself, so there must be some other reason. It'll come to me later, maybe...

Anyone else having Malafen flashbacks? Guess it's just me.

I'll admit I'm a non-FS person. But it sure sounds like a bug/exploit to me.

nothing more than a few pathetic individuals that are abusing a bug to demolish a zone for AAs and loot that they're not earning legitimately.. Every one of the fuckers involved in this deserves whatever happens to them.

And you feel you've earned everything you have recieved? How did you get ele flagged again? I feel bad coming back this point over and over again, but its pretty funny. Someone who has zerged an encounter (still failing.. 3 or 4 nights? I can't remember) down, barely winning accusing me of not playing the game as it was designed. Do you even do PoAir rings on your own without PD holding your hand?

Come "earn" what you have then you can tell me if I am actually earning what I get. Yes, my posts are defending the seeming attack on Fiends in this thread, sorry if im protective of them. Most of my responses are jokes, I find all this funny.

Quick Rundown:
Trick enters game
People find the trick! omg dude /hide
GMs don't care
People tell friends
Who tell friends
Who tell more friends
Someone posts it on boards! teh w0rld now knows...
GMs say "uhoh dude, inc drama"
Couple people go around screaming the sky is falling.
More people find out and get scared! Most petition because they can't do, so its unfair.
All upset people petition
GMs say "damn dude, /hide"
Guide logs on and gets spammed
Guide is confused and /yells
GMs /sigh and tell everyone to stop making them work


^^- Basically thats the lifestory of every bug or exploit that ever enters game. Cry and whine all you want. Everyone is bothered by it but yourselves and those that love drama. The people that first knew no longer get to feel special. The people that have been using don't get to anymore. The GMs had to work (hint: they don't like doing this).. The newbs that didn't understand why they were told to petition are confused. Only people that get anything out of it are the self-righteous.....

You can go ahead and place yourself in anyone of the above categories outlined above. I take the fifth in regards to the PoTactics exp method, but when it comes to pinning it all on one group... your way off bud.

G'Night all.

If AA exp were meant to be that easy and that quick, I have every confidence that exp groups in the elementals would be able to pull in AA that fast. Seeing how it's not, I would suppose that it's an exploitable mistake in the programming code. Doesn't work in any other zone like it does in tactics, meaning it probably wasn't the intention of the developers to have it work like that.

Too bad really, the corruption goes all the way to the top and the first that anyone hears about it is when one guild wants to get into a penis measuring contest with another.

Aslanna wrote:Anyone else having Malafen flashbacks? Guess it's just me.

I'll admit I'm a non-FS person. But it sure sounds like a bug/exploit to me.

oddly similiar to the trick bards used to do in Western Wastes to solo shit they never should have been able to.. that was ruled a bug/exploit so how can this not be? /shrug

Korell wrote:And your not? Wasn't that you in zone today? Not trying to name anyones name still.

I've never used this particular exploit nor was I in tactics today...assuming by today you mean Saturday, though I haven't been in on Sunday as of now either.

I exploit in private.

Denadeb wrote:We all know Farstorm is sweet little angels that never do anything wrong don't we.
This shit cracks me up.

Lets not go there my little Sov Cherub just ask your chanters about SS in HOHO before they fixed it.

I'm obviously oozing with jealousy, having hit the aa cap months ago :\

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:Well I just "took it up" with "the guide", since you've brought it up; at the current time he did not consider it an exploit, although not condoning it, his views do not represent SOEs. Thing is, what we're doing involves no bugs, no wall sploits, no pathing sploits, nothing against the rules. Just a bit of skill, two spells, and proper timing.

So have fun with those petitions =)

Yea it's not an exploit just like petsploiting dragons in WW used to be "not an exploit".

Ooops they said that was an exploit, banned folks for it, and fixed it.

So fuckin hilarious watching as you pieces of human trash actually try to justify your actions after using an obvious exploit.. do you seriously believe that an aa every 10 mins in this idiot-filled tier 3 zone is intended by the developers?
Don't even flatter yourselves into thinking that this thread exists simply due to the guild you're in, this would have been brought up about any bunch of losers willing to exploit such a blatantly obvious bug and be idiotic enough to be so open about it. It just so happened that said bunch of losers also happened to belong to the guild with the highest population of 'u, r, lolz, roofles, !11!1!!!' dumbass little kids.

More people find out and get scared! Most petition because they can't do, so its unfair

now this is just baffling.. you really think that the other braindead twats you exploit with are the only ones on the server who can charm a mob and thereafter train more mobs onto the two who are fighting each other..? Let's be clear about this.. it takes nothing approaching skill, no semblance of thought, and an amazing suspension of all morals and human reasoning to 'accomplish' this bug.
Bask in your ignorance while you can.

Heh... I just find it funny how Fiends was singled out when the people in question have been playing around with this thing for two days when there are others in Tactics who have been doing this for months.

I won't mention any names...but I went to Tactics last night to see what this exploit was all about....and there was a particular guild in there...doing this *exploit* or *perfectly legal means of getting 20 AA per hour by taking advantage of a bug*. I have SS of the massive amount of NPC corpses and the messages of NPCs fighting one another...and the people there.

I am satisfied that this is in an exploit in every sense of the word. But what would you do if a GM and Senior Guide told you that it was still ok. I was told by a person using this exploit that they were told it was ok by Senior Guide Kylorne because there is still a chance of getting killed.

I wish there were a legal way to get 20 AA per hour...but there isn't...I've seen it for myself last evening. But I'm not going to make any judgement calls on this one...if it's bannable...then there is obviously a great disparity in what constitutes a bannable offense in the GM/Guide community....and as long as that disparity exists...people will take advantage of the exploit....because the powers that be will not classify it as an exploit...

But a dog is a dog...even if you feed it table food.

Vaerd wrote:Don't even flatter yourselves into thinking that this thread exists simply due to the guild you're in

Effie wrote:Does that mean Fiends will be recruiting?

*cough* dumbass *cough*

First post is pretty much an attack on Fiends... So, this thread exists simply due to the guild im in.

Vaerd wrote:It just so happened that said bunch of losers also happened to belong to the guild with the highest population of 'u, r, lolz, roofles, !11!1!!!' dumbass little kids.

Newp, that would be your previous alliance there bud.

Vaerd wrote:now this is just baffling.. you really think that the other braindead twats you exploit with are the only ones on the server who can charm a mob and thereafter train more mobs onto the two who are fighting each other..? Let's be clear about this.. it takes nothing approaching skill, no semblance of thought, and an amazing suspension of all morals and human reasoning to 'accomplish' this bug.

Maybe they couldn't do it because their not flagged? Or have no charm spell? Or their morals prevent them from doing so? Maybe they can't do it because their too busy reading VV.

~
*Added names of posters to quotes for those lacking reading comprehension*
Good day to you sir.

Cartalas I will go where ever the hell I please. No where did I remotely claim anyone in Sov was a little angel nor did I say this wasn't an exploit. So take your dumbass and jump on some other fucking bandwagon this one happens to be full.

Vaerd wrote:
Don't even flatter yourselves into thinking that this thread exists simply due to the guild you're in


Effie wrote:
Does that mean Fiends will be recruiting?


*cough* dumbass *cough*

First post is pretty much an attack on Fiends... So, this thread exists simply due to the guild im in.

The point, which evidently flew right by you, is that due to how open people are being about this exploit now it was inevitable that something like this be brought up soon irregardless of the people/guild using it. This has been around for a while, yes, but at least the previous cheaters had enough sense to keep it quiet as opposed to you total fuckwits.

Korell wrote:Maybe they couldn't do it because their not flagged? Or have no charm spell? Or their morals prevent them from doing so? Maybe they can't do it because their too busy reading VV.

(emphasis added)

You may just be on to something...

Irregardless isn't a word. You're thinking of regardless.

Karae wrote:Irregardless isn't a word. You're thinking of regardless.

Actually it is a word. Most references classify it as nonstandard and direct you to using regardless instead though.


(Not saying it's right or wrong. I use regardless myself. But it is technically a word.)

Vaerd wrote:The point, which evidently flew right by you, is that due to how open people are being about this exploit now it was inevitable that something like this be brought up soon irregardless of the people/guild using it. This has been around for a while, yes, but at least the previous cheaters had enough sense to keep it quiet as opposed to you total fuckwits.

Yes, obviously it flew right by me. I completely missed that point there, Vaerd, because it is so far beyond the limits of my comprehension. Quick analogy here for ya bud. This would be similar to finding an ATM that gave out an extra $50 without charging your account. Months go by as you use it in secret, stockpiling tons of cash. One day its printed in the news paper, the bank says they currently can't take the machine down and that they have yet to decide if they are even going to fix it. Well.. "fuckwit" chances are they are going to fix it. Do you go make a bunch of withdrawls and try to get as much as you can before its changed or still do it secretly?

Xagyg, how about you?...

Well, you probably wouldn't use the ATM at all, you probably tipped off the reporter that posted the problem. See, you were to busy reassuring yourself that your a good upstanding citizen. You, sir, are the holy roller that balances out all the bad in the world with your saint-like actions. You are the ying, to my yang.

Ok, /sarcasm off for a right_quick_second here. Your supplementing what you lack in RL for what your recieving from this "game" or "hobby". You seem to lack any sense of pride from your RL side, and are using what you "earn" from this game to keep yourself from taking the old rilfe your mom used on your dad when she found out he was working at the dock, giving blowjobs to sailors for free, and using it on yourself.

/get a_clue
/get bent
/get lost

P.S. He really was the best cock sucker I have ever met. We do really miss him on the SS WhoFuckingCares.

Nevermind, I don't care enough :\

Why do you ask?

Yeah, I guess you might want someone to drink with ya, drinking alone is bad.

EDIT~

To clear up any confusion you may have, Occu asked if I chug gasoline.

Korell wrote:Xagyg, how about you?...

Well, you probably wouldn't use the ATM at all, you probably tipped off the reporter that posted the problem. See, you were to busy reassuring yourself that your a good upstanding citizen. You, sir, are the holy roller that balances out all the bad in the world with your saint-like actions. You are the ying, to my yang.

Ok, /sarcasm off for a right_quick_second here. Your supplementing what you lack in RL for what your recieving from this "game" or "hobby". You seem to lack any sense of pride from your RL side, and are using what you "earn" from this game to keep yourself from taking the old rilfe your mom used on your dad when she found out he was working at the dock, giving blowjobs to sailors for free, and using it on yourself.

/get a_clue
/get bent
/get lost

P.S. He really was the best cock sucker I have ever met. We do really miss him on the SS WhoFuckingCares.

Wow - you soooo got me there. Fact is that if I received extra cash from the atm, I would immediately walk into the bank or contact the operator to rectify the mistake. Just a couple weeks ago, I got an extra 10 bucks in change from a local sub shop. I didn't notice until I was down the road a bit, but guess what - I turned around and went back to return it. Does that make me a "holy roller?" I would guess not since I'm not a big fan of religion. It does, however, make me a person that has a set of standards (morals if you like) that I *try* to live by.

How can you possibly infer from a few posts on teh interweb that I lack any pride in my RL accomplishments? All that any reasonable person can infer is that I think cheating fucks like you are about worthless. I'll humor you a bit, though and say that I can look back on my life with so far a strong degree of satisfaction, having achieved many of the goals that I've set for myself. I have my education, my military service, my entry to and advancement the corporate world as a successful IT project manager, my wife, my home, my spiritual life, my physical condition. I've met life's challenges and dealt with them to my satisfaction. I don't need my ego to be stroked by myself or anyone else.

The fact that your abuse of this exploit isn't really defendable, causes you to find other ways to lash out (if your weak shit can be considered such). You're reduced to making some bizarre attacks on me, my sister (from a few posts back) and my parents in your sick visions of my life - all here on the docks in sunny Birmingham, "Arkansas???" (you should've paid a bit more attention in those geography classes in school). Now it may disappoint you to learn that I'm not a native Alabamian, but if making fun of where a person is from is your gig, knock yourself out. I'd be careful, though... Judging from your use of phrases like "right quick," I'm going to guess you're a panhandle Floridian, which is about 1 step removed from "Deliverance" country, so that may not be a can of worms you want to open, but feel free to keep trying, boy.

Your talk about fucking sisters and dads giving hummers for cash gives us a creepy little window into your head, dude....

GFG. Obviously everyone knows that the jokes I made about you and your sister/family are in no way based upon factual information. They are jokes..


I made the inference of you lacking pride from your life, or supplementing what lacked with what you have earned from EQ, because you seem overly compelled to lead a coalition of people against what you feel isn't right. You went as far as to camp the zone waiting for anyone to do this. I am sure your RL is plenty satisfying, and that you aren't extracting any pride from your EQ career to make up for what your lacking. Really, I am. The big thing I keep coming back to is.. Why the fuck do you care? More people have had to put up with worse shit in this game. Shit, I have to put up with people that I don't feel have EARNED their entrance into a lot of the zones I use.

Anyway, you've clearly mistaken my posts for defending the use of anything. I am more attacking the fact that you care. Drinsic is the one speaking of its legitimacy. I can easily say that I would use any system to my advantage as long as it was in MY morale range. OMG I AM A BAD PERSON.

Once again coming back to the point that I gave Dregor aids.

- This is obviously a bug.
- Using a bug to your advantage is exploiting.
- You are exploiting and admitting to it on a public board.

I believe I plead the 5th on every attempt to ask me if I was, infact, doing this. I was merely watching people from various guilds exploiting and was drawn to the thread by the early Fiends comment, and then later by the picture of me.

Anyway, last post as I have things to do in game like exploiting the bug in the rathe encounter. The one where you turn mobs of opposing factions on each other.

Korell wrote:I believe I plead the 5th on every attempt to ask me if I was, infact, doing this. I was merely watching people from various guilds exploiting and was drawn to the thread by the early Fiends comment, and then later by the picture of me.

Anyway, last post as I have things to do in game like exploiting the bug in the rathe encounter. The one where you turn mobs of opposing factions on each other.

Korell wrote:Truth is, a number of us recently found this method and have been playing with it. Its more fun to just train the shit out of the mobs themselves than anything, and I would probably continue doing it just because its insanely fun.

What you say or admit to on these message boards isn't what's going to be used to determine your involvement. Once SOE decides to move on this matter, they'll simply take a look at the various checkpoint saves made for characters that they suspect are involved in this. Since there is no legitimate way to make a couple hundred AAs in a few days time, those characters / accounts that have a sudden increase of AAs beyond the limits of what is considered to be "normal," will be flagged for investigation and ultimately dealt with appropriately.

Aslanna wrote:Actually it is a word. Most references classify it as nonstandard and direct you to using regardless instead though.

The fact that ignorant, uneducated people use it does not make it a word. It's like saying, 'I don't got no money,' is a sentence. That's not a sentence and irregardless isn't a word. It's moron slang.

Irregardless, it ain't no skin off my back if'n you want to look like you don't got no ejacation.

Oops~

Got me there Forthe. Must admit I am a evil person. By saying us I clearly meant myself. Yes. Hardcore admission right there.

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Xatrei, do you even know what your talking about here? Couple hundred? Please. Your like someone that heard about doing a tradeskill for a profit and thought instantly that they were making 1k per combine.

I would continue to ask you how you feel you earned anything by having PD flag you, but I really am going to try and let this thread die off because its really the best thing for all parties involved. Gonna smack the STFU button too as im mostly here to read Kwon's post and check the BKL every once in awhile to see what other guilds are "earning".

BTW, im from Miami.

P.S. Irregardless is definitely not a word. Check a dictionary.

*EDIT* Ninja edit for spelling correction. Thanks Chewby

Hmm... According to everything that I've read, both here and elsewhere 5 to 10 minute aa's are easily achieved using this exploit. For the sake of argument, lets call it 7 minutes... So just under 9 aa an hour, and you guys have been at it for 7 or 8 hours a pop the last few nights that I know of, and probably more than that. 50+ aa's in such a session (allowing for lost time due to deaths, etc.) seems like a reasonable assumption. A couple hundred AA's over the course of a few days seems to be very doable, but since you're the one with the actual experience with exploiting, I'll defer to your numbers. How many did you get this weekend via this exploit?

You can continue to pound on a tired old topic like the PD alliance until your fingers bleed. It doesn't phase me a bit.

Xag, no sense in wasting your breath.
He's an idiot.

Korell,

I was in Tactics last night...late...you were there with friends...you were grouped up in the pit...I watched for a little while. I am not making a judgement call. Hell, I am not going to be holier than thou and say what you are doing is some horrid thing. If the GM's and Guides are saying they will not classify it as an exploit, then no one can really say anything otherwise. But you were there..and you were helping with the people that were getting XP..whether or not you were grouped with them is unknown...but you were killing.

Just an FYI. A friend of mine in Fiends was in the pit as well...and he told me that Sr. Guide Kylorne told him it was not an exploit. I spoke with Sr. Guide Kylorne....and he said that this was not going to be classified as an exploit...and that came from the powers that be.

I think it is an exploit...but there have been other things I thought were exploits that the guides and GM's disagreed with. When PoP first came out, I watched a guy repeatedly fearing a mob in PoJ into a wall...it was a pathing bug..and he would then just stand there and beat the mob down until it died and he got XP. He did this over and over and over. Many people petitioned him. Finally a GM came into zone and told us to please stop petitioning as they were not going to classify this as an exploit because although there was a pathing bug that prevented the mob from walking, the use of Fear was legitimate and the player would not be penalized.

But please, don't let me interrupt the flamefest. I am going to get back to getting my 1 AA per 50 minutes

Denadeb wrote:Cartalas I will go where ever the hell I please. No where did I remotely claim anyone in Sov was a little angel nor did I say this wasn't an exploit. So take your dumbass and jump on some other fucking bandwagon this one happens to be full.

Blow Me cheater boy!

Korell wrote:Oops~

Got me there Forthe. Must admit I am a evil person. By saying us I clearly meant myself. Yes. Hardcore admission right there.

Korell wrote:Truth is, a number of us recently found this method and have been playing with it. Its more fun to just train the shit out of the mobs themselves than anything, and I would probably continue doing it just because its insanely fun.

Korell wrote:

Vaerd wrote:Don't even flatter yourselves into thinking that this thread exists simply due to the guild you're in

Effie wrote:Does that mean Fiends will be recruiting?

*cough* dumbass *cough*

First post is pretty much an attack on Fiends... So, this thread exists simply due to the guild im in.

Vaerd wrote:It just so happened that said bunch of losers also happened to belong to the guild with the highest population of 'u, r, lolz, roofles, !11!1!!!' dumbass little kids.

Newp, that would be your previous alliance there bud.

better? aslanna?

Topper wrote:

Korell wrote: Newp, that would be your previous alliance there bud.

You know whats funny about that korell?

Vaerd isnt even in Pravus Dei anymore you fucktard.

Reading comprehension sure isn't your strong point.

If you look he said "previous alliance".

Fucktard.


(Good job on the quoting by the way.)

Ah thats right - i was wrong.

Good of you to correct me though aslanna, i appreciate it.

Oh and i hardly consider one mistake reading comprehension problems.

Asshole

OH and ps- i love your constany grammar / formatting pokes. Can you flame without them?

Moonwynd wrote:I think it is an exploit...but there have been other things I thought were exploits that the guides and GM's disagreed with. When PoP first came out, I watched a guy repeatedly fearing a mob in PoJ into a wall...it was a pathing bug..and he would then just stand there and beat the mob down until it died and he got XP. He did this over and over and over. Many people petitioned him. Finally a GM came into zone and told us to please stop petitioning as they were not going to classify this as an exploit because although there was a pathing bug that prevented the mob from walking, the use of Fear was legitimate and the player would not be penalized.

For the record, people were doing this in Kunark (OT fearing mobs into the ramp, CoM entrance sploits) and in all cases people were banned for using those spots. In most cases, the spots were fixed.

The POJ spot was there because of poor pathing and fear AI. At its height, it was abusable primarily by SKs in the 58-61 range and resulted in, at best, the same XP you would get from an optimal group. The devs didnt care much at the time because they were too busy trying to figure out how to stop charm groups from racking up 5 AA an hour. Eventually, fear pathing AI was altered, making fear kiting in many other places a lot more difficult. This did not stop the dead spot pathing bug, so ultimately all mobs in POJ were made immune to fear. Obviously SOE considered it a bug, they just had more severe ones to contend with.

Anyone with half a brain can tell this is not intended and will be changed, but SOE is too lazy to make any short term fixes unless they are the "kill the whole zone" variety. I call the devs dumbasses for even puting factions in the zone, as there is zero need for any more than one faction to exist in that zone. It will obviously get fixed, and no one will get banned of consequence because SOE wants their $13 a month. If you don't believe that, just check out how the Discord server was won.

Exploiting it won't get them banned, but doing it publicly and brazenly speaks volumes about the character of the people involved.