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Posted: October 17, 2003, 11:33 am
by Siji
Someone borrows your car while you're out of town.. they sell it to some rich high school kid real cheap. The kid tunes it up, gets it painted, tints the windows, puts new leather seats in it, puts some nice speakers in, etc..

You come home, ask for your car back.

Are you going to call the cops and report it stolen to get it back, or are you going to let the kid keep it since he paid your friend money for something that didn't belong to him?

You're going to get your fucking car back. And no, you're not going to rip out the new seats and speakers either, because you're pissed it was gone in the first place.

Now shut the fuck up and drop the subject. Bunch of fucking whining bitches.

Posted: October 17, 2003, 11:35 am
by Taly
a character and a car are two totally different things.

Posted: October 17, 2003, 11:40 am
by Siji
Main Entry: anal·o·gy
Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will prob. agree in others
2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin -- compare


Main Entry: whine
Pronunciation: 'hwIn, 'wIn
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): whined; whin·ing
1 a : to utter a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry b : to make a sound similar to such a cry <the wind whined in the chimney>
2 : to complain with or as if with a whine


Main Entry: id·i·ot
Pronunciation: 'i-dE-&t
Function: noun
1 : a person affected with idiocy; especially : a feebleminded person having a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete custodial care
2 : a foolish or stupid person

Posted: October 17, 2003, 11:49 am
by Zaelath
Time to roll a cleric: 30 seconds
Time to PL said cleric to a useful level by an entire guild, 3 days.

...

The gear is a little harder to replace, but you're lucky to get any at all switching mains in the same guild..

It's a shame all around, Sarlen probably one of my favourite monks of all time =)

Posted: October 17, 2003, 12:09 pm
by Tyek
Hmm,

Wouldn't the proper "anal·o·gy" be...

He stopped paying for the car, gave it to someone else as a secondary vehicle, that someone else paid for it, then fixed it up. They decided to give it to someone else who started paying for it, fixing it even more. Then he comes back, notices his car is looking GOOD, decides he wants it, even though he will rarely play it.

Unless he was paying for the account the whole time, this is a more appropriate "anal·o·gy" that all the "whiners" can complain about.

Posted: October 17, 2003, 12:17 pm
by Sylvus
I think the proper analogy would be if I were to get a temporary work assignment overseas. My friend needs a place to stay, so he agrees to rent my house while I'm gone, with the understanding that I probably won't be gone forever. When I get back, I notice he's made some structural modifications to my house.

Does he have the right to stay in my house after I'm back? Since he rented it, is he now a partial owner of it? Does he have the right to knock out a load-bearing wall to take his modifications with him? It wasn't his "house", it was a temporary "stay", he shouldn't have modified it knowing that said "stay" may not be permanent.

I put quotes around the words that you can replace with words relating to everquest to more clearly illustrate it.

Posted: October 17, 2003, 12:38 pm
by Fesuni Chopsui
Sylvus wrote:Does he have the right to stay in my house after I'm back? Since he rented it, is he now a partial owner of it? Does he have the right to knock out a load-bearing wall to take his modifications with him? It wasn't his "house", it was a temporary "stay", he shouldn't have modified it knowing that said "stay" may not be permanent.
Sarlen was never informed that the account belonged to any kind of an original owner nor was he informed that the account was lent to Xadion (from what I am told) - as far as I can tell the impression from Sarlen's point of view was that Xadion owned the account and was giving it to him to keep....to be frank, I do not think the blame should be put on the original Narayen, nor should any kind of blame be put on Sarlen...the blame rests solely on Xadion I'm afraid

PS: Sylvus, I do like your analogy but I think it's unclear...is your analogy making SARLEN the person you lent the house to or XADION the person you lent the house to?

Posted: October 17, 2003, 12:46 pm
by Sylvus
To tell the truth, I hadn't really followed the whole thread. In that case, add to the analogy that not only did the lessee make modifications to the house, he then subletted it to another person unbeknownst to the owner. When the owner of the house came home, should he then be expected to forfeit his ownership of the house to the sublettor?

For the most part, I agree with you that the original owner and the "sublettor" would not be at fault in this case. The real douchebag is the person who posted this thread in the first place.

Posted: October 17, 2003, 12:50 pm
by Fesuni Chopsui
Sylvus wrote:For the most part, I agree with you that the original owner and the "sublettor" would not be at fault in this case. The real douchebag is the person who posted this thread in the first place.
Thanks for clearing that up Sylvus...

I consider myself a good friend of Aaeamdar, but I must agree with you Sylvus (in a not so vulgar way hehe). There was absolutely no reason nor point in bringing this thread to VV other than to try and bash someone you don't even know. It is not your place to judge the original Narayen because he took his account back Dar. This whole matter is between XADION, SARLEN and NARAYEN - not you nor anyone else here