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You speak of others being stupid, yet lack the mental capacity to understand why people were observing this man attempt to light his sneaker on fire.

I understand it perfectly. Fire is illegal in plane. Matches were out 10 inches from another person. Person saw matches.

Racial profiling is wrong.

Generally it is because of you whiteys, and your cracker southerness.

I don't give a fuck what color you are, you have suspicions and/or are more cautious around people of certain races, creeds, or social status. If you say that you do not, then you are lying.

Your typical black man would not necessarily distrust anyone white, but I can bet you that if they suspect them of being a KKK member or a skinhead that they would be keeping a close eye on them. You really are ignorant. McVeigh was an idiot who developed anti-government ideas after the gulf war. Hopefully people will be more diligent about turning in more of these subversives. If I heard some dipshit talking about blowing up buildings, or noticed that they were stockpiling fertilizers, even though they live nowhere near a farm, then you can bet I would turn them in to be investigated. It is ass rammers like you liberal fucks that make everything harder about someone checking closer to make sure that YOU have a right to live longer. It almost sickens me that people work so hard to keep you safe so that you can bitch about it. Stick a fucking gun under your chin and save them the hassle.

word to yer mutha!

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:I don't give a fuck what color you are, you have suspicions and/or are more cautious around people of certain races, creeds, or social status. If you say that you do not, then you are lying.

Your typical black man would not necessarily distrust anyone white, but I can bet you that if they suspect them of being a KKK member or a skinhead that they would be keeping a close eye on them. You really are ignorant. McVeigh was an idiot who developed anti-government ideas after the gulf war. Hopefully people will be more diligent about turning in more of these subversives. If I heard some dipshit talking about blowing up buildings, or noticed that they were stockpiling fertilizers, even though they live nowhere near a farm, then you can bet I would turn them in to be investigated. It is ass rammers like you liberal fucks that make everything harder about someone checking closer to make sure that YOU have a right to live longer. It almost sickens me that people work so hard to keep you safe so that you can bitch about it. Stick a fucking gun under your chin and save them the hassle.

Still full of teen angst? Probably because you are a middle class white boy

/psst lets see how far I can take this before Kilmoll realizes I am joking and likely whiter than he is.
WINK WINK

Although you are a liberal ass clown, I was actually replying more to Miir and his little eskimo pet than to your obvious joke about crackers. And you can make jokes about white inbred hillbillies all you want sir. I have more Native American blood than any other creed. Two of my great grandparents were Apache. The rest of my bloodline is a mishmosh of whiteness.

Okay, here is my thoughts on this:
Fuck racial profiling, I do not care that it happens, and literally I do not care about someone sensative emotions by feeling segragated when it comes to saving lives.
In reality, I pay taxes, my taxes pay for these people to be trained and do their job.
Their training does NOT consist of "Ethenic" signs en masse, rather the train to look for eye movement, posture, body language, breathing patterns.
However, if that security guard feels that X muslim may be a threat getting on that plane, then I am NOT faulting him for protecting MY ASS.

As for ethnic quezyness, get over it.

Yeah, fuck the law of averages! What does statistical history really prove, anyway??

The odds of my 92 year old white grandmother hijacking a plane is exactly the same as the 30 year old angry muslim from Syria: 50/50 (Or, do I hijack this plane- yes/no.) Can't dicker with that math, baby.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You have to admit that if you stop towel heads or people who would look like a towel head if you threw one on them, the chance they are muslim, etc. is quite large. So your comparison while distracting and/or compelling don't really compare equally.

rot in hell you stupid shit head.

there are nearly as many white (turkey, some of morocco primarily) muslims and black muslims (many southern african nations) are there are arab muslims

Atokal wrote:Speaking of Stupid, this was a very poor attempt to argue your side with any degree of logic. Until you have something intelligent to contribute shut your hole.

actually, "you are stupid" is a perfectly acceptable counter-argument to basically everything you have ever said.

Acies wrote:Okay, here is my thoughts on this:
Fuck racial profiling, I do not care that it happens, and literally I do not care about someone sensative emotions by feeling segragated when it comes to saving lives.
In reality, I pay taxes, my taxes pay for these people to be trained and do their job.
Their training does NOT consist of "Ethenic" signs en masse, rather the train to look for eye movement, posture, body language, breathing patterns.
However, if that security guard feels that X muslim may be a threat getting on that plane, then I am NOT faulting him for protecting MY ASS.

As for ethnic quezyness, get over it.

My lord...the first time I have been able to say that I liked seeing something posted from Acies! Now if Fairweather, Miir, and Kyoukan all post something similiar, my work on Earth will be done and I can be ready for my virgins.

Should an american or canadian citizen have to live in fear because of their religious beliefs or race?

No they should not. When we get to this point where it is common then we are no better then the Middle East countries that kill each other over their beliefs.

Can we get over the "white male" crap please. Everyone should be checked at airports, not a select few but everyone. But there are those that if they cry loud enough before long not one person of any color other then white will be checked for fear of being sued, YEAH you that bitch and moan at any given chance over race. The media loves ya.

Racial Profiling? How about we just call it Profiling Of Any Kind...
Now that we have established this...

ONE Human Life > 9,834,113,533,488 uncomfortable fucks that feel shit on because someone looked at them funny.

Accept the world that we live in... well, that or never leave your fucking house... If you don't like the way things are done in this beaurocratically botched attempt to provide some degree of safety to the citizens of the United States, then by all means, find a way to improve it. Until a better method is implemented, profiling of any kind will continue... I'm not necessarily saying I support it, I'm just saying that I understand why things are done this way...

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:

Acies wrote:Okay, here is my thoughts on this:
Fuck racial profiling, I do not care that it happens, and literally I do not care about someone sensative emotions by feeling segragated when it comes to saving lives.
In reality, I pay taxes, my taxes pay for these people to be trained and do their job.
Their training does NOT consist of "Ethenic" signs en masse, rather the train to look for eye movement, posture, body language, breathing patterns.
However, if that security guard feels that X muslim may be a threat getting on that plane, then I am NOT faulting him for protecting MY ASS.

As for ethnic quezyness, get over it.

My lord...the first time I have been able to say that I liked seeing something posted from Acies! Now if Fairweather, Miir, and Kyoukan all post something similiar, my work on Earth will be done and I can be ready for my virgins.

LOL, do not get me wrong, when ABLE, persoanl freedoms need to take FULL presedence, but right now, to save lives, people will need to make some sacrifices in the form of blows to their pride (a useless emotion anyway) so that lives can be preserved.

Atokal wrote:Conversely, the greatest achievement the terrorists have had is making law enforcement agencies around the world be politically correct.

hahhahhaahah you are really really fucking dumb. I mean really dumb. Those damn terrorists forcing everyone to be politically correct has put such a damper on society. Your stupidity is really astounding.

Kilmoll you have no fucking clue what living in fear for your life is. If someone parked 200000 troops and a plethora of tanks, aircraft, and ships on the border of your country, with the full intent to destroy every fucking thing, then maybe, just maybe you would understand what fear really is. But while you sit behind your computer 10 hrs a day and grub down on your cheetos and your diet coke, don't come here preaching about fear because you understand it not.

I'm of middle eastern decent and I'm not muslim or a terrorist. I'm on the fence about racial profiling. If it is used with the right intent and it saves lives, then it must be a valuable tool. The question is does it save lives?

Terrorism is a way for oppressed people to fight back. The originator of this thread failed to mention that during the last 30 years the US has killed or helped kill thousands upon thousands of Muslims or middle-easterners. If you think the hate stems from anything other than 50 years of horrible foreign policy, you are sadly mistaken. Lately, the US has been much more proficient in creating enemies instead of friends and the trend is only getting worse. If you doubt me, look at the world around you.

Xyun wrote:

Atokal wrote:Conversely, the greatest achievement the terrorists have had is making law enforcement agencies around the world be politically correct.

hahhahhaahah you are really really fucking dumb. I mean really dumb. Those damn terrorists forcing everyone to be politically correct has put such a damper on society. Your stupidity is really astounding.

Kilmoll you have no fucking clue what living in fear for your life is. If someone parked 200000 troops and a plethora of tanks, aircraft, and ships on the border of your country, with the full intent to destroy every fucking thing, then maybe, just maybe you would understand what fear really is. But while you sit behind your computer 10 hrs a day and grub down on your cheetos and your diet coke, don't come here preaching about fear because you understand it not.

I'm of middle eastern decent and I'm not muslim or a terrorist. I'm on the fence about racial profiling. If it is used with the right intent and it saves lives, then it must be a valuable tool. The question is does it save lives?

Terrorism is a way for oppressed people to fight back. The originator of this thread failed to mention that during the last 30 years the US has killed or helped kill thousands upon thousands of Muslims or middle-easterners. If you think the hate stems from anything other than 50 years of horrible foreign policy, you are sadly mistaken. Lately, the US has been much more proficient in creating enemies instead of friends and the trend is only getting worse. If you doubt me, look at the world around you.

I have a friend who was attacked outside of his campus for being Muslim.
That friend was in the hospital for a few days, but he is all good now.
Point is, he IS American.
That is a tragic by-product of "conservitism". Ignorance. Those mother fuckers who cracked his head open were so completely fucking ignorant it sickens me.
You know, America engadged in terrorism versus the English so we could be liberated.
The Boston Tea Party was a terrorist action.
Anyway, that is hardly the point. Allow me to put things into a playground perspective.

The world is a playground during recess in first grade.

European countries are mostly the "in" crowd, consisting of kids who do not get laughed at a lot and really take no overt moves vs the lesser crowds.
Most of Asia can be seen as those kids who kinda have their own fnord. Not really geeks, nor picked on, because they will hit you back if you push them to hard.
Middle east? Well, they are the scorned and reviled, the geeks. And they get picked on exsessively by the bully of the yard.
Guess who the Bully is?
You see, the funny thing about bullies are the never see themselves as bullies. The seem themselves, as bigger, badder, stronger and stauch "defenders of the playground", but everyone views them as fat, bloated, obnoxious, ugly and feared kids who outgrew their own body.
Now, this is perhaps a poor anaology.. no wait, it is not.
This is how the world sees you America. You are the bully. You are the shit starter, the jerk, the one whom they avoid.
I know I do not like that view, but instead of acting like further dicks and proving the point, maybe we should find out why they view us in this light.

kyoukan type-R wrote:

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You have to admit that if you stop towel heads or people who would look like a towel head if you threw one on them, the chance they are muslim, etc. is quite large. So your comparison while distracting and/or compelling don't really compare equally.

rot in hell you stupid shit head.

Very eloquent.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:

kyoukan type-R wrote:

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You have to admit that if you stop towel heads or people who would look like a towel head if you threw one on them, the chance they are muslim, etc. is quite large. So your comparison while distracting and/or compelling don't really compare equally.

rot in hell you stupid shit head.

Very eloquent.

about as elequent as your use of the term "towel head"

you don't deserve eloquence. you don't even deserve the time it took me to write that post. or this one.

Ahh yes Vetria I figured a few people would focus on that one fucking phrase instead of the meaning.

Kyo, /hugs.

Xyun wrote:

Atokal wrote:Conversely, the greatest achievement the terrorists have had is making law enforcement agencies around the world be politically correct.

hahhahhaahah you are really really fucking dumb. I mean really dumb. Those damn terrorists forcing everyone to be politically correct has put such a damper on society. Your stupidity is really astounding.

Kilmoll you have no fucking clue what living in fear for your life is. If someone parked 200000 troops and a plethora of tanks, aircraft, and ships on the border of your country, with the full intent to destroy every fucking thing, then maybe, just maybe you would understand what fear really is. But while you sit behind your computer 10 hrs a day and grub down on your cheetos and your diet coke, don't come here preaching about fear because you understand it not.

I'm of middle eastern decent and I'm not muslim or a terrorist. I'm on the fence about racial profiling. If it is used with the right intent and it saves lives, then it must be a valuable tool. The question is does it save lives?

Terrorism is a way for oppressed people to fight back. The originator of this thread failed to mention that during the last 30 years the US has killed or helped kill thousands upon thousands of Muslims or middle-easterners. If you think the hate stems from anything other than 50 years of horrible foreign policy, you are sadly mistaken. Lately, the US has been much more proficient in creating enemies instead of friends and the trend is only getting worse. If you doubt me, look at the world around you.

Look you stupid ignorant fuck, Ghandi was oppressed and he didnt strap TNT to himself or his followers and kill more innocents to make a fucking point.
Secondly, what happens when we take the word racial <a politically correct rally point> out of the equation and just call it profiling.

The people who fit the description of the perpetrators of the most recent terrorist attacks have been.

1. Dark Hair
2. Dark Eyes
3. Olive complexion
4. From Mideastern countries
etc etc.

Not using this information is like not broadcasting that a white male tall with blue eyes was seen running from the scene of a bank robbery. Then finding that most bank robberies are committed by white males with blonde hair and blue eyes. And not being overly suspicious if a Blonde male with blue eyes is standing behind you at the bank. Or worse not checking blonde blue eyed males living in the vicinity or leaving the area following the crime, simply because it might constitute harrassment?

Get it you stupid fuck?

But because of your whiney ass it is seen as Politically Incorrect to Profile these types of crimes. This is the last time I will connect the dots for you dickhead.

kyoukan type-R wrote:you don't deserve eloquence. you don't even deserve the time it took me to write that post. or this one.

As much as I agree with this statement (what he said was ignorant) the hatred you spewed on these boards is as bad as anything Midnyte has ever said. Get it you clueless hypocrite.

As for the time it takes you to type your pithy comments, please do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up.

Xyun wrote:Terrorism is a way for oppressed people to fight back.

Dipshit wrote:Ghandi was oppressed and he didnt strap TNT to himself or his followers and kill more innocents to make a fucking point.

Is this like a counter-argument? I stated a fact. I didn't say it's the only way, I didn't say I supported it, I just merely stated a fact. What you say is also a fact, but in no way does it refute my statement. Now if you are gonna call me stupid, please at least follow it up with some sort of logical retort. I know it must be extremely hard for you.

Xyun wrote:I'm on the fence about racial profiling. If it is used with the right intent and it saves lives, then it must be a valuable tool. The question is does it save lives?

Dipshit wrote:But because of your whiney ass it is seen as Politically Incorrect to Profile these types of crimes. This is the last time I will connect the dots for you dickhead.

Let me guess, you don't have an English degree.

You are by far the stupidest most ignorant fuck I have ever had the pleasure of flaming. It actually takes little effort because your pure stupidity is so overwhelming. And then you tell me to connect the dots?.... hahahhahahhahahaahahhaahhaahhahahaahha.

Xyun wrote:

Xyun wrote:Terrorism is a way for oppressed people to fight back.

Dipshit wrote:Ghandi was oppressed and he didnt strap TNT to himself or his followers and kill more innocents to make a fucking point.

Is this like a counter-argument? I stated a fact. I didn't say it's the only way, I didn't say I supported it, I just merely stated a fact. What you say is also a fact, but in no way does it refute my statement. Now if you are gonna call me stupid, please at least follow it up with some sort of logical retort. I know it must be extremely hard for you.

Xyun wrote:I'm on the fence about racial profiling. If it is used with the right intent and it saves lives, then it must be a valuable tool. The question is does it save lives?

Dipshit wrote:But because of your whiney ass it is seen as Politically Incorrect to Profile these types of crimes. This is the last time I will connect the dots for you dickhead.

Let me guess, you don't have an English degree.

You are by far the stupidest most ignorant fuck I have ever had the pleasure of flaming. It actually takes little effort because your pure stupidity is so overwhelming. And then you tell me to connect the dots?.... hahahhahahhahahaahahhaahhaahhahahaahha.

Watch it, next thing you know he will be telling you your daughter is adopted and that she talked to him on the phone, begging his forgivness =)

Ahh yes Vetria I figured a few people would focus on that one fucking phrase instead of the meaning.

If you did, why were you stupid enough to use it? Shows what a fucking moron you are, and what a waste of perfectly good air it is everytime you breathe.

Kelshara wrote:

Ahh yes Vetria I figured a few people would focus on that one fucking phrase instead of the meaning.

If you did, why were you stupid enough to use it? Shows what a fucking moron you are, and what a waste of perfectly good air it is everytime you breathe.

LOL. Or, it shows your inability to look beyond your petty sensitivities and see the bigger picture.

Some of you kids are so adorable when you try to sound smart.

Xyun wrote:Kilmoll you have no fucking clue what living in fear for your life is. If someone parked 200000 troops and a plethora of tanks, aircraft, and ships on the border of your country, with the full intent to destroy every fucking thing, then maybe, just maybe you would understand what fear really is. But while you sit behind your computer 10 hrs a day and grub down on your cheetos and your diet coke, don't come here preaching about fear because you understand it not.

With all regards, you are wrong. When you have a known enemy (uniformed) at your border, you have huge advantages. You know they are coming, you know who they are, and you have the choice to just leave. I would much rather have the gutless terrorists pop on a uniform and tell us they have declared war. Fuck, I would rather have Canada and Mexico allow them free access to our borders. At least that way we would know who we are fighting. I do not fear a battlefield as much as I do some random idiot with explosives blowing himself up and maiming or killing someone I love.

Kid? Hardly. But keep telling yourself that you got owned by a kid if it makes you feel better

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:

Kelshara wrote:

Ahh yes Vetria I figured a few people would focus on that one fucking phrase instead of the meaning.

If you did, why were you stupid enough to use it? Shows what a fucking moron you are, and what a waste of perfectly good air it is everytime you breathe.

LOL. Or, it shows your inability to look beyond your petty sensitivities and see the bigger picture.

Some of you kids are so adorable when you try to sound smart.

blatant racism is not a sensitivity

There you go being cute again.

It's not like were asking for people to be beat to death in the streets ebcause they are middle eastern, or sent to concentration camps.

Were saying RACIAL profiling is OK. Were not talking about religious profiling you fucktards, were all smart enough here to know that you can't tell a persons religion unless they are wearing a cross or yammica thing. Especially enchanters in EQ who die because of thier religious affiliation even though they are in a different racial illusion.

Why is profiling good? Because when my grandma got searched to board the airplane on the way down to Atlanta, and some middle eastern guy didn't.....that was just utterly stupid. Sure there is a chance she could hijack the plane, and there is also a chance I'll hit the lotto 2 weeks in a row. But that middle eastern guy had more of a 1% chance of being a hijacker and hers was like 0.000000001% so statistically speaking we should have checked that dude out. NOW GRANTED the plane didn't blow up, and he was completely innocent.....but if your going to pick and choose people to search you do it via statistics to get the best bang for your buck, or you search them all.

I fly OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS. I am checked for bombs maybe 95% of the time. Why? I don't really know, maybe because I look irish (Actually I am 25% irish) and I could be in the Irish Republican Army or something. Do I give a fuck that I get searched? Yes...but you know what? I'm not offended, I just leave extra time and I'm careful of what I pack or wear so I don't set off the metal detectors.

Things that get you in trouble...combination locks, bags of quarters, walkman, nintendo, fudge wrapped in tin foil, golf balls, picture frames....I could go on and on....I started getting trouble at the security counter when I was 5 yrs old and I had a toy flashlight that was white, red and blue cheap plastic and said "shrine circus" on the side....because it vaguely looked like a gun.....they confiscated it.

Now do I think they are being reasonable about the items they confiscate? Hell no. I could kill someone with a pen easier then I could with toe nail clippers.....so what should we do?

We shouldn't be telling people what they can't bring on the plane....we should be telling them what they CAN bring. Fuck carry-on bags etc....yes I love my carry-on, actually it's normally the only bag I use, especially for business travel. But we should just improve baggage handling and have it all be checked luggage.

With all the hassle of airports these days to be honest, I usually avoid them at all costs, I found it's easier to drive from atlanta to cincinatti then it is to fly. Beyond a 7 hr drive though I usually take a plane...that seems to be the cut-off. It's usually about the same time travelling, no crying babies, no fat sweaty guy leaning against me, I have a radio, I control the temperature, I can eat what I want when I want, and I can go pee almost any time I want, and when I get there I have a free car rental....plus it costs less.

Back to the subject...

I'm sorry your friend felt afraid to go to his mosque, but that has nothing to do with racial profiling.

I'm sorry your college friend was beat up and had to go to the hospital but that had nothing to do with racial profiling.

I'm sorry you guys are such retards you can't tell the difference between racial profiling and violent race crimes.

I've had friends from many different ethnic backgrounds some middle eastern, some indian, some black, some native american, japanese, chinese...whatever. I'm not prejudice, calling me prejudice will just make you look stupid. But the fact of the matter is, when planes hijacking is the topic at hand...people of middle eastern descent should be the first minority on the list statistically, so they should be top priority to be searched for boarding planes. It's just simple mathmatics, if you can't search them all then you try to search the ones who are most likely to cause problems. It's nothing against those people being searched.

But we can't not have random searches either...those have to continue.

I think the majority of our terrorist attacks stem from our propensity to jump into other peoples business all the time. You don't see this shit happening to canada. So another idea would be to change our foreign policy, maybe put someone smarter then a chimp into politics.

You know why not make it easy on people "NO Carry on Baggage"


You get a purse and a Wallet Thats it.

Well said Pils. Very well said.

I wouldn't go as far as a purse even......women can do thier make-up when they exit the plane. You can hide too much shit in a purse.

Once you get it down like that....you can search each person's body...100% search...no profiling needed. Because you don't have bags to deal with anymore.

Althuogh I hate body searches, I haven't had a body cavity search yet, but several times I've had to remove my shoes, belt, jacket...a couple times I had to lower my pants.

I would make an exception for flights over a certain number of hours though....like say a flight from my place (Cincinatti) to Hawaii. That's a long ass flight. I'd have the security at the gate heavier and allow a SMALL carry-on and ALL of them would be inspected....only certain items would be allowed to be in it, food products, books, etc....if it wasn't on the list, it's not in your bag. By small I mean breifcase/purse size, not actual luggage.

This would solve more then one problem, I mean how many times have you see a flight take an extra 30 mins to load up because of the stupid carry-ons? Because people feel it's necessary to bring 2 large carry-ons, a purse, a breifcase AND a notebook computer? Plus they bring a coat and an umbrella to spice things up. And they refuse to put any of it under thier seat, so they fill up 2 storage bins and then the other 5 people have to find room elsewhere so they begin to wander around the plane with a lost look in thier eyes and the stewardess is trying to help people one at a time.

And people bring bags they can't lift over there heads and need help with them so you lose more time on exiting the plane while people deal with the stupid shit...I mean honestly...if you can't handle your carry-on, if it's too big to fit or too heavy to lift...fuck you, die. They have a thing at the check in that is the size of the overhead bin to check your bag size, noone does, and if you can't lift it....check it bitch. Your responsible for your own shit, yes I do help women with thier bags, but I don't think they should bring it on the plane if they can't lift it to put it in the bin, they should pack lighter.

Why is it if I go on a 3 day business trip I can fit it all in a hard case carry-on that slides right in the over head and I can easily lift it...yet if my mother goes on a 3 day business trip she has 2 carry-ons that are too large to fit easily, neither of which she can lift, then a notebook computer bag, and a purse, and a coat.....and 2 large checked bags....? Why? WTF do you bitches pack? You need 3 changes of clothes and a handful of bathroom stuff...and your notebook computer. Should be able to fit it all in a carry-on and breifcase.

I don't ask people to carry my shit because I crushed some disks in a skiing accident, I pack lighter. But do you think many women pack light? No...because they expect someone else to help them with it so they don't give a shit how heavy it is.

Which brings me to another pet peeve, how self centered people are. People need to learn to look at things from beyond thier own viewpoint. If people did that more often the world would be a much better place.

Agreed.
My friend was not hurt due to racial profiling, he was hurt due to ignorance and dickhead hicks. Just as long as we remember that racial profiling is the standard, but NOT the rule by any means.

Pilsburry wrote:But that middle eastern guy had more of a 1% chance of being a hijacker and hers was like 0.000000001% so statistically speaking we should have checked that dude out.

More than 1% of all middle eastern males are hijackers?

kyoukan type-R wrote:

Pilsburry wrote:But that middle eastern guy had more of a 1% chance of being a hijacker and hers was like 0.000000001% so statistically speaking we should have checked that dude out.

More than 1% of all middle eastern males are hijackers?

Re-read Kyo. Then try again.

so what's it mean then asshole?

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:There you go being cute again.

It doesn't help your argument of being for racial profiling when using racist terms. That's exactly the reason there are people arguing against it. You are helping their argument.

kyoukan type-R wrote:so what's it mean then asshole?

It means that the muslim looking fellow has a larger chance of being a terrorist than the old white grandmother. It mentioned nothing about the percentage chance of arab looking fellows being terrorists.

Actually it did. It said the guy (a random middle eastern guy) had over 1% chance of being a hijacker. That means that out of 100 randomly picked middle eastern guys more than 1 of them is a hijacker.

Numbers are such a bad thing to use poorly, because it is so obvious when a mistake is made.

Oh and a racist being for racial profiling.. now there's a surprise!

He's only racist against fucking towelheads, so it's not really racist.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:It means that the muslim looking fellow has a larger chance of being a terrorist than the old white grandmother. It mentioned nothing about the percentage chance of arab looking fellows being terrorists.

and you tell me to re-read it?

how can you be this stupid?

Vetiria wrote:

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:There you go being cute again.

It doesn't help your argument of being for racial profiling when using racist terms. That's exactly the reason there are people arguing against it. You are helping their argument.

Towel-head, while insensitive, is not racist. I used the term because it is effective and draws the readers imagination directly to the image I was trying to portray. Cut the sensitivity and re-direct your efforts towards the issue at hand. We will make much better progress that way.

Pilsburry wrote:Althuogh I hate body searches, I haven't had a body cavity search yet, but several times I've had to remove my shoes, belt, jacket...a couple times I had to lower my pants.

But that was just college hazing?

I didn't say more than 1%, I said more of a 1%...

As in closer to 1% then someone else, it's a stupid sticking point though, those aren't actual statistics.

I was just trying to point out that statistically a middle eastern descent man in his 30's is more likely going to hijack a plane then my grandmother who is near 80 yrs old, female, and caucasian.

Actually by a large margin...I would say he was maybe 100,000,000x more likely to hijack the plane statistically since there is not much data on 80yr old female caucasian hijackers. Anyone want to dig up the numbers and do the statistics, feel free to try and prove me wrong. Be warned though in order to prove me wrong is find an 80+ yr old caucasion woman who hijacked or blew up a plane. Otherwise I could put any insanely large ratio up there and statistically it would be true.

Anyway if that's the best flaw you could find with my standpoint, you should give up now...

My main emphasis is to stop carry-ons so that you can devote more resources to search everyone....but if we aren't going to do that then profiling is a good way to decide how to best spend our airport security efforts to provide the maximum safety with the least overall hassle and cost.

We aren't telling them to drink from a seperate fountain, sit on the back of the bus, or go to different schools.

Asking them to deal with a security check is similar to asking someone coming from 3rd world country to take a physical to prove they aren't going to bring a rare disease into our country and kill people. It's not that we hate people from that area, it's not that they have the virus, it's that there is a small chance they might.....and if they did it could kill people so its fairly serious...it's a safety concern and it has to be done.

It's not a civil rights issue, it's not prejudice, it's safety measures.

Towlhead, while insensitive, is not racist. I used the term because it is effective and draws the readers imagination directly to the image I was trying to portray.

That must be straight from the retard handbook. What a shining example of ignorance.

Kelshara wrote:
Oh and a racist being for racial profiling.. now there's a surprise!

I'm not a racist. But, it is very typical to call people names and label them one way or another when they try and introduce you to the truth.

Example: An all black establishment is attacked by a group of white guys, who set the place on fire, lets say. It is in a predominately black area. I would be for all white guys in the surrounding area being stopped and questioned. Makes sense. Common sense. It's so very easy.

Actually the rest of your inane drivel wasn't even worth it. If you have ever been on a long-distance flight (12+ hours) you know that your carry-on is invaluable. And that is all I have to say about your BS.

Midnyte.. you are a racist, ignorant scumbag, and I am ashamed you breathe the same air I do. You are a perfect example of why people dislike Americans.