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Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Diving is part of the game. I don't care for it myself, but that is the game as it stands. Every day brings two great games. Tomorrow will be fucking great. I can't wait to watch Brazil and Spain win!

Boogahz wrote:

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Diving is part of the game. I don't care for it myself, but that is the game as it stands. Every day brings two great games. Tomorrow will be fucking great. I can't wait to watch Brazil and Spain win!

Then make up your damn mind.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Yes, except he has holding his face. Approximately 8 inches above where the elbow grazed him. It was as ridiculous as 90% of the flopping shit these guys do.

miir wrote:

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Yes, except he has holding his face. Approximately 8 inches above where the elbow grazed him. It was as ridiculous as 90% of the flopping shit these guys do.

Yea it didn't hit his face, hence the yellow card and not red.

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:

miir wrote:

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Yes, except he has holding his face. Approximately 8 inches above where the elbow grazed him. It was as ridiculous as 90% of the flopping shit these guys do.

Yea it didn't hit his face, hence the yellow card and not red.

Oh yeah?!?!? Well.... harumpf.

My assertion is that if the sport wasn't infested with flopping, then there never would have been a card.

miir wrote:

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:

miir wrote:

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Yes, except he has holding his face. Approximately 8 inches above where the elbow grazed him. It was as ridiculous as 90% of the flopping shit these guys do.

Yea it didn't hit his face, hence the yellow card and not red.

Oh yeah?!?!? Well.... harumpf.

My assertion is that if the sport wasn't infested with flopping, then there never would have been a card.

The point is that it was a foul and the appropriate penalty was assessed.

Xorian wrote:...but for the sake of the game, you should be able to substitue the ref at the half time

miir wrote:The referee made the appropriate call.
The replays clearly showed the Puyol forcibly driving his shoulder and elbow into the Henry's torso, preventing him from reaching the ball and with enough force to knock him to the ground.

I agree that the "holding the face" part was overly dramatic and Henry could have just as easily been given a yellow card, but the French would still have been awarded a free kick.

The bottom line is the call did not influence the outcome of the game.
You cannot run a block like that in football.
Neither player had even touched the ball.
It's a foul.
Puyol even apologized to Henry after he knocked him to the ground... he didn't even argue the yellow card.


It seems to me that if the ref and the penalised player both agree that it's a foul.... then um... what exactly is your point?

Xorian wrote:The case of Spain-France is right in my opinion, the yellow was a good call.

But during this World cup some referees are really worst than others. I m not saying they all are acting weird but there is a differnce on match quality that is linked to the ref.

Ivanov (sp?) the one during portugal - netherland and swiss-italy should stop drinkin his vodka gallon before each of his match. And there is a lot of mistakes too.

What you guys thing about using video, when the case is dubious (like did the ball get in the goal or not? )

Im quiete against it, as the ref is a really important part of the game but sometimes jeeeeez, it gives me goosebumps seeing their decision (im not saying i could do better, i know the action is fast, etc.) but for the sake of the game, you should be able to substitue the ref at the half time

FIFA gives two refs 'red cards' for officiating gaffes

BERLIN (AP) -- Senior English and Russian referees were cut from the World Cup roster Wednesday after their controversial handling of previous matches.

Premier League referee Graham Poll, who issued three yellow cards to one player in a match, and Valentin Ivanov, who handed out a record number of cautions and ejections in the Portugal-Netherlands second-round match, were omitted from officials selected for the quarterfinals, semifinals and final.

FIFA's referees commission released a list of 12 teams of officials Wednesday shortly after FIFA president Sepp Blatter made more critical comments about the standard of officiating at the tournament.

"In the same way that our members send their best teams, FIFA owes it to itself, in its own flagship competition, to send out the best referees," Blatter said on FIFA's Web site http://www.fifa.com. "Hundreds of millions of players and referees around the world are watching what happens in Germany, with the desire to improve themselves and understand how the game is changing.

"Instead, I've noted that instructions aren't being followed consistently from one match to another. There are the tackles from behind I've seen go unpunished and the violent conduct that has escaped sanction, not to mention the serious errors made in applying the rules." German referee Markus Merk, criticized for being too whistle happy in a first-round match between defending champion Brazil and Australia, was one of six European referees retained.

Luis Medina, who awarded a debatable penalty kick to Italy in the last seconds of its 1-0 second-round match against Australia, also made the list and will officiate Brazil's quarterfinal against France.

Other Europeans selected included Michel Lubos of Slovakia, Roberto Rosetti of Italy, Frank de Bleeckere of Belgium, and Massimo Busacca of Switzerland.

Horacio Elizondo, the Argentine referee who handled the tournament's opening match between Germany and Costa Rica, was among six non-Europeans selected and will continue his tournament with England's quarterfinal against Portugal in Gelsenkirchen.

The others were Toru Kamikawa of Japan, Benito Archundia of Mexico, Jorge Larrionda of Uruguay, Mark Shield of Australia and Coffi Codjia, a tax inspector from Benin in Africa.

Despite his experience, Poll was considered likely to go after his blunder that could have forced a replay of the first-round match between Croatia and Australia. He gave three yellow cards to a Croatia defender; a second caution should immediately be followed by a red card.

The game ended 2-2, enough for Australia to make the second round. If Australia had lost, it could have protested the result based on Poll's error.

Ivanov set World Cup records when he issued 16 cautions and four red cards in Portugal's 1-0 win over the Nettherlands. That promoted a stinging rebuke from Blatter, who told a television interview that Ivanov should have given himself a yellow card.

Kelshara wrote:Pass on instant replay, it would ruin the flow of the game.

Linaminu wrote:IF we did change all this the game would turn rubbish
From a English standpoint where a good percentage of us live, breathe and dream the game of football the whole sitting in a pub and talking aout what just happened is great! but if we kept interrupting it for "a perfect game" then it would make it a farce, there would be nothing to talk about, nothing to comment on and games would take a hell of a lot longer when people argue "so is that a red or a yellow" or "well is he offside or not" or even "well did it completely cross the line?"

Football is fine as it is, Referees bow hot and cold just like players do, so let them have a bad game, there human, when can all of you say you never had a bad day at the office? it's the same for them it's just shown around the world so the pressure is greater.

One incorrect call for one team is cancelled out by another against that team, it's all fair in the end.

vn_Tanc wrote:

Linaminu wrote:IF we did change all this the game would turn rubbish
From a English standpoint where a good percentage of us live, breathe and dream the game of football the whole sitting in a pub and talking aout what just happened is great! but if we kept interrupting it for "a perfect game" then it would make it a farce, there would be nothing to talk about, nothing to comment on and games would take a hell of a lot longer when people argue "so is that a red or a yellow" or "well is he offside or not" or even "well did it completely cross the line?"

Football is fine as it is, Referees bow hot and cold just like players do, so let them have a bad game, there human, when can all of you say you never had a bad day at the office? it's the same for them it's just shown around the world so the pressure is greater.

One incorrect call for one team is cancelled out by another against that team, it's all fair in the end.

Y'see I think that's bollocks. The game is being ruined by diving, shirt pulling, feigning injury, and some of the refereeing in the world cup has been a travesty.
That said nobody is advocating stopping the action every 30 seconds. But for several actions that are difficult for humans to judge it would be very handy. There's too much riding on big football matches these days for it to be left to 3 men who may not have been paying attention.
I read a great article about it the other day and they pointed out that the threat of instant replay is almost as good as it's implementation. Who is going to dive when in 10 seconds the referee could be told by instant replay officials and hand out an instant red card? It's a great deterrent.
Several other sports use instant replay decision making and they haven't been destroyed. I enjoy the few seconds of tension while we await the decision. It all adds to the fun.

Nick wrote:wtf is a chester to a jumping shot?

Nick wrote:wtf is a chester to a jumping shot?

wtf is a chester to a jumping shot?

Anyone saw what happenned at the end of germany argentinia? Suddenly it wa a sort of fight between Argentinia players and guys from germany team, but the camera zoomed out pretty quick.

wtf is a chester to a jumping shot?

I think that by that, Mid is refering to the Argentinia second goal VS Mexico, when Maxi Rodriguez, received a long cross ball, made it rebound on the chest and before the ball hits the ground he turn and volleys it in the goal. In my opinion it is the most beautifull goal for the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE1LAl8I ... l%20mexico

watch it, it worth the 40 secs

The "bowling" celebration

If that's the goal he was referring to...what was the "jumping shot" part of the goal?