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miir wrote:Hehe yea, I don't understand why some people feel the need to tell everyone that they are vegan or vegetarian.

Xatrei wrote:

miir wrote:Hehe yea, I don't understand why some people feel the need to tell everyone that they are vegan or vegetarian.

I generally don't, but if it's relevant to a conversation or if I'm asked about it, I'll talk about it. I generally don't mention it because, unfortunately, even if you're not the preachy type out to convert folks or have kookie ideas about why we should or shouldn't eat meat, merely mentioning that you don't gets you lumped in with the nuts more often than not.

Boogahz wrote:

Xatrei wrote:

miir wrote:Hehe yea, I don't understand why some people feel the need to tell everyone that they are vegan or vegetarian.

I generally don't, but if it's relevant to a conversation or if I'm asked about it, I'll talk about it. I generally don't mention it because, unfortunately, even if you're not the preachy type out to convert folks or have kookie ideas about why we should or shouldn't eat meat, merely mentioning that you don't gets you lumped in with the nuts more often than not.

At least you get to be lumped in with a good source of protein

miir wrote:Hehe yea, I don't understand why some people feel the need to tell everyone that they are vegan or vegetarian.

Chimps Hunting Monkeys Closer to Extinction

Humans are behind a number of species extinctions, but in Uganda it's chimps that are hunting monkeys into oblivion. Chimps in Uganda have been hunting red colobus monkeys, so much so that the monkey's population has dropped 89% from 1975 to 2007. The findings were reported in the American Journal of Primatology this week.

According to the IUCN's Red List of endangered species (both the chimps and their prey are endangered), the red colobus monkey population is around 20,000 animals. Most of them live in Uganda's Kibale National Park, which also hosts the nation's largest chimp population. The decline in red colobus monkeys in the past 30 years has been accompanied with a 53% increase in chimp sightings, which researchers say suggests the two are related. The study's authors report that between the 1990s and 2002, chimps killed 15-53% of the monkey population every year. Although chimps are often solitary, during hunting raids they coordinate to kill the smaller, vegetarian colobus monkeys. The chimps preyed especially on young or juvenile monkeys, which created an additional reproductive toll on the species. A single chimp outweighs a single monkey by about 50 pounds (around 20 lbs vs. 70 lbs), so one can imagine that when they band together, the monkeys don't have much of a chance.

But why do chimps hunt in the first place? Some have theorized that males will hunt more during mating season to swap meat for sex with females, and some say that chimps hunt more during the dry season where the supply of fruit and leaves runs thin. At least one scientist has said both those theories are false, and that chimps actually hunt as a form of male bonding (sound familiar, humans?). We may never know exactly why chimps hunt, but a Yale professor interviewed by New Scientist says all is not lost for the red colobus monkeys of Uganda. Professor David Watts said that chimps are hunting less often than previously, meaning that young chimps may not be able to hunt as effectively as their elders.

Aslanna wrote:I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

Some have theorized that males will hunt more during mating season to swap meat for sex with females

Canelek wrote:Random google search, copy, paste. No real argument, but grats on learning!

At least one scientist has said both those theories are false

Spang wrote:Yes, I've decided not to eat sentient creatures, and that makes me a douche.

Sueven wrote:Sometimes I wonder if plants are sentient.

Spang wrote:

Sueven wrote:Sometimes I wonder if plants are sentient.

It's possible, but I don't know anyone who eats, for example, tomato plants. Or apple trees, etc.

Winnow wrote:Isn't eating an apple like eating a baby fetus? Seeds are little developing babies. Pretty fucked up that you eat them. Tomato juice is like slurping down placenta.

Spang wrote:There are people, fruitarians, who are very extreme in their diets. Some will only eat what can be harvested without killing the plant. Others will only eat the shit after it falls to the ground.

Spang wrote:It's possible, but I don't know anyone who eats, for example, tomato plants. Or apple trees, etc.

Spang wrote: There are people, fruitarians, who are very extreme in their diets. Some will only eat what can be harvested without killing the plant. Others will only eat the shit after it falls to the ground.

Aabidano wrote:Knock it off Spang, you're causing problems all over!
http://www.cbs8.com/story/14750182/obam ... od-pyramid

Xatrei wrote:

Aabidano wrote:Knock it off Spang, you're causing problems all over!
http://www.cbs8.com/story/14750182/obam ... od-pyramid

Skimming through the comments on that article, I see VV's right-wing tard brigade seems to have taken up trolling local news stations. At least I know where they went.

Xatrei wrote:

Aabidano wrote:Knock it off Spang, you're causing problems all over!
http://www.cbs8.com/story/14750182/obam ... od-pyramid

Skimming through the comments on that article, I see VV's right-wing tard brigade seems to have taken up trolling local news stations. At least I know where they went.

Aabidano wrote:Knock it off Spang, you're causing problems all over!
http://www.cbs8.com/story/14750182/obam ... od-pyramid

Aslanna wrote: but was this really necessary?

miir wrote:

Aslanna wrote: but was this really necessary?

The new system is based on science instead of pressure from lobbyist groups.

Boogahz wrote:

miir wrote:

Aslanna wrote: but was this really necessary?

The new system is based on science instead of pressure from lobbyist groups.

If this were true, the old one would have been topped with Oil and Nicotine

Boogahz wrote:

miir wrote:

Aslanna wrote: but was this really necessary?

The new system is based on science instead of pressure from lobbyist groups.

If this were true, the old one would have been topped with Oil and Nicotine

Aslanna wrote:Well it says nothing about removing meat so not sure how 'good' it is in the context of this thread. It basically just takes the pyramid and turns it into a pie chart (mmm pie) while revising some of the categories. Now I'm not going to flip out about it like I've seen on other sites since obviously pyramids = mid east (aka SYMBOLYS OF TERRORISMISTS!) but was this really necessary?

Spang wrote:I've not commented on the "food pie," yet.

Aabidano wrote:

Spang wrote:I've not commented on the "food pie," yet.

It's part of the vast omniverocentric conspiracy.

Spang wrote:If there's any meat, fish, poultry, eggs or dairy in the "food pie," it's flawed.

Aslanna wrote:

Spang wrote:If there's any meat, fish, poultry, eggs or dairy in the "food pie," it's flawed.

... No it's not. And there will be.

Aslanna wrote:Or... It could just be that things such as meat , fish, poultry, eggs or dairy are a good thing to include in your diet as has been witnessed by the last 200,000+ years of human existence. If anyone is ignorant of the facts it's born-again preachy vegetarians spouting their new religion and condemning everyone else to hell for their sins.

Spang wrote:Chickens don't lay eggs for our omelets, they do that to reproduce. Similarly, cows aren't producing milk for us, but for their calves. Animals weren't put on this planet for humans, just like black people weren't put on this planet for white people, and women weren't put here for men. We're much smarter people now. We don't have to slaughter animals to survive. The sooner we all realize this, the better.

Winnow wrote:If Spang isn't trolling, he's clueless. The only thing worth eating for him is his own vomit. Chow down.

Spang wrote:Chickens don't lay eggs for our omelets, they do that to reproduce. Similarly, cows aren't producing milk for us, but for their calves. Animals weren't put on this planet for humans, just like black people weren't put on this planet for white people, and women weren't put here for men. We're much smarter people now. We don't have to slaughter animals to survive. The sooner we all realize this, the better.

Canelek wrote:...I went through an idealism phase when I was in my early 20s. Many of us did.

Xatrei wrote:I like Spang. I really do, but this thread makes me want to eat a chicken, turkey, steer and hog. In one meal. For spite.

Spang wrote:Chickens don't lay eggs for our omelets, they do that to reproduce. Similarly, cows aren't producing milk for us, but for their calves. Animals weren't put on this planet for humans, just like black people weren't put on this planet for white people, and women weren't put here for men. We're much smarter people now. We don't have to slaughter animals to survive. The sooner we all realize this, the better.