I'm going to agree with you. My gf is a teacher, and the things she tells me about parents is unreal. To them, their kid is the smartest and can do no wrong. If a kid is having a lot of trouble, some of them refuse to send them off to get help.Kylere wrote:Umm you are a complete fool. Parents and Politicians are the problems.Metanis wrote:You lose.Kylere wrote:How about starting by asking teachers, ignoring parents, and ignoring politicians. NCLB is a failure.
Hell if parents could get over thinking their kid is special it would solve half the problems we have in thsi country. Little Courtney is no more important than little Jimmy.
Gee I guess finding those WMDs wasn't so serious after all
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Man some of you guys really are totally smokin' the Bush crack pipe...
Teachers need to TEACH, not just help kids memorize things for a test in which you can can get a passing score on and still GET THE FUCKING ANSWER WRONG! Yes boys and girls that's right. On one hand we complain that our kids are getting fat because many schools have cut physical education in order to move funding to this innane test Mr.Bush and his neocon cronies dreamed up or at least approved while on the other hand we wonder why they can't function in everyday society.
Teachers aren't teaching much of anything except for a prep class on the test in some of the grade levels now. Fuck history, we don't want these kids to grow up and question us anyway right? Fuck civics, the classes will be so devided by then we don't have to worry about it even if they can find a job... fuck music, fuck sports fuck literature... No Child Left Behind is a failure, and would be EVEN if it was funded properly because it focuses on the WRONG things.
I'm sure some Neocons will say, Bush didn't come up with it. Educational specialist did. Yes and the whole fuckin' country bought in to the Dr.Spoke book on raising their children too rather than listening to generations of extended family knowledge, resulting in the "ME" generation. Most people are sheep who want to be lead and told by someone what the right thing to do is rather than figuring it out on their own. Bush knows this and plays it very well, well enough that he just might win.
But I have yet to meet a teacher who though the NCLB was worth the paper it was written on. The funniest thing I saw on this was a teacher at the RNC (who was black none the less, I saw the same 4 africian-americans about 150 times during Bushes speech, I think they were trying to convince poeple at home that they were "ethnic" or something) who said, very excitedly I might add, that she was a former teacher and no child left behind was the greatest, Bush was the greatest etc... then the guy said, what would you say to those that condem Bush for not giving the proper funding? and she said... ah I laugh just thinking about it..."Well that's true, things are pretty bad, but you heard him, he is going to give the money this time" This time... that's when I realized she too had recieved the same crack pipe they sent to Metanis a couple of months back
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PS - I wanted to qualify my opening paragraph. For those of you who don't know about the math portion of the test (note I said math NOT english) each question has 4 parts. 1. Did you understand the question. 2. Did you work the problem correctly 3. Did you get the right answer 4. Did you... crap something. The point being that you can get 3 out of the 4 points and get the wrong answer in MATH... I can understand this in Differential Equations or Calc III but not addition and subtraction... come ON we can do better than this.
Teachers need to TEACH, not just help kids memorize things for a test in which you can can get a passing score on and still GET THE FUCKING ANSWER WRONG! Yes boys and girls that's right. On one hand we complain that our kids are getting fat because many schools have cut physical education in order to move funding to this innane test Mr.Bush and his neocon cronies dreamed up or at least approved while on the other hand we wonder why they can't function in everyday society.
Teachers aren't teaching much of anything except for a prep class on the test in some of the grade levels now. Fuck history, we don't want these kids to grow up and question us anyway right? Fuck civics, the classes will be so devided by then we don't have to worry about it even if they can find a job... fuck music, fuck sports fuck literature... No Child Left Behind is a failure, and would be EVEN if it was funded properly because it focuses on the WRONG things.
I'm sure some Neocons will say, Bush didn't come up with it. Educational specialist did. Yes and the whole fuckin' country bought in to the Dr.Spoke book on raising their children too rather than listening to generations of extended family knowledge, resulting in the "ME" generation. Most people are sheep who want to be lead and told by someone what the right thing to do is rather than figuring it out on their own. Bush knows this and plays it very well, well enough that he just might win.
But I have yet to meet a teacher who though the NCLB was worth the paper it was written on. The funniest thing I saw on this was a teacher at the RNC (who was black none the less, I saw the same 4 africian-americans about 150 times during Bushes speech, I think they were trying to convince poeple at home that they were "ethnic" or something) who said, very excitedly I might add, that she was a former teacher and no child left behind was the greatest, Bush was the greatest etc... then the guy said, what would you say to those that condem Bush for not giving the proper funding? and she said... ah I laugh just thinking about it..."Well that's true, things are pretty bad, but you heard him, he is going to give the money this time" This time... that's when I realized she too had recieved the same crack pipe they sent to Metanis a couple of months back

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PS - I wanted to qualify my opening paragraph. For those of you who don't know about the math portion of the test (note I said math NOT english) each question has 4 parts. 1. Did you understand the question. 2. Did you work the problem correctly 3. Did you get the right answer 4. Did you... crap something. The point being that you can get 3 out of the 4 points and get the wrong answer in MATH... I can understand this in Differential Equations or Calc III but not addition and subtraction... come ON we can do better than this.