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To be honest, I never seem to see a point in flaming some one unless its just for fun. Most of the time, the odds are if your trying to hurt them, they wont lose any sleep over it, and you will have just wasted your time.

Pilsburry wrote:But to me Zamtuk is inferior. He is a nerdy little uncreative sheep.

Because they continue to post pointless flames to the point other people put up a post specifically for flames against me to be placed, it's ruining other peoples enjoyment of the board.

If they just understood I really honestly don't care, then maybe they could save everyone some time.

I could just say "I don't care" but without providing why I don't care, they wouldn't understand...if if they don't understand why would they believe me?

Now you might say my posts ruin your enjoyment, whatever....I'll take a second to remind you that the majority of my posts are responses to posts people addressed to me. So if stupid flames against me die down, so will my responses.....for example if I wasn't flamed for asking how those two people met on the net, as harmless as that was...this entire thread would not exist.

Nerd Sheep needs a cape and lightsaber.

Thanks.

There's no one on this board (anymore) I flame in anger.

Awww Aranuil doesn't hate me anymore. He's gotten soft in his old age.

Oh wait, that's not what he said. I almost had a moment of Cartalas reading-comprehension!

I never hated you.

Aranuil wrote:Anyway, it is fun to watch you flail Pils, but don't take shit so seriously.

That is exactly what I'm talking about. He thinks I take it seriously....even after the post.

And if I met you IRL Aranuil....previous obviously to the flame wars we had here, we would probably get along, probably more then get along...we'd probably hang out. Because I think a good deal of anyone's on-line persona is pure BS.

For example: My biggest trait here is I'm the "verbose" guy. IRL I'm pretty quiet....I mean there are subjects that can get me talking a bit. But it doesn't happen often. I mean I can be in the bar with 10 friends, and say maybe 5 sentences over 3 hours. That's not uncommon.

Pilsburry wrote:Oh I agree I'm verbose at times.

But to me Zamtuk is inferior. He is a nerdy little uncreative sheep. And I had to make sure he knows that...because if he knows that's what I think of him, then he will understand why I don't give a flying fuck what he thinks about me.

First off, you stupid shit let me address that first statement. A few posts ago you flamed Lalanae to no end for calling you this. Obviously based on the fact you had no fucking clue what it had meant at the time. And instead of trying to enrich your vocabulary and checking http://www.dictionary.com, you opened your shit stained mouth and spouted. Of course your rebuttal was so far off base as all of your other posts, it only made you look well, hrmm, whats the word I am looking for? Oh yeah, irrelevant. (4 syllables, please check the definition before responding)

As to inferior, lol. You're the 30 year old loser who is still afraid to ask girls out on a fucking date. Please, call me the nerdy sheep all you fucking want. At least you will never catch me coming here asking the secrets of love and happiness, and if it could be achieved with one hand. Look at the title of this thread dumbshit. It is all about you and your inability to grasp the fine concepts of human nature. But I do hope one day I can be your equal so that I can hop in my beamer and jet off to the airport to go to places unknown. Please. How many computers do you have? If you have a working network and invite your friends over TO STAY UP LATE AND PLAY EVERQUEST, then you have no, and I mean absofuckinglutely no place to call anyone here a nerd. Let alone the pure ignorance shown when you call someone a nerd over the internet is purely astounding.

Pilsburry wrote: mean I can be in the bar with 10 friends, and say maybe 5 sentences over 3 hours. That's not uncommon.

No fucking shit, your scared shitless to open your mouth to the opposite sex.

As to you not caring, bullshit. You respond to every post that I, Truant, Aranuil, Sueven, Kyoukan, et al. post only to let us know how much you 'don't care'. If you don't care then you wouldn't be posting in response. Can you go one fucking day without looking like such a hypocrite? If you don't give a 'flying fuck' about me or my posts then I fucking dare you to not respond. If you do, as would be expected, before you open your mouth, please note that you have already lost. Hypocrisy is fun!

My avatar > Xou's avatar!

i completly disagree zam
xou's avatar is MUCH better

I had mine first. He is a nerdy uncreative sheep! I win by default you see.

his avatar contains a vegetable, therefor it is in a completly different catagory

Zamtuk wrote:

Pilsburry wrote:Oh I agree I'm verbose at times.

First off, you stupid shit let me address that first statement. A few posts ago you flamed Lalanae to no end for calling you this.

Actually I yelled at her for including Moon in the statement because it's unfair to attack him, his post was exactly what I asked for.

Oh and I have known what verbose means for a long ass time, that's why I knew which character an "Ent" probably was...because I knew what you were trying to infer with your flame. Never assume you know more then I do...because atleast in your case...you will be wrong 99% of the time.

I can talk to girls fine, I just have difficulty asking them out. I guess in one way maybe I am inferior to you, but I was talking on the whole...not just in the one aspect.

And I have 4 computers here. One for my home office it has no games on it (well since EQ, I did 2-box once in a while). One is for games. The other 2 are Zergs and Scrimps machines....this isn't for "LAN parties" It's because they are my little brothers IRL and my dad can't get high speed internet where he lives, so I let them use my connection.

Now your going to say "you two boxed hahaha" I was moving a lot IRL, I decided to play EQ until I was settled in. I never wanted to 2-box though, that was a product of guild and family desires, not my own. I usually one-boxed if possible. I quit EQ when I got settled in because it interferred with my social life. If I play EQ2, it will be casually.

Oh and FYI, I'm not a hypocrit for responding. To be a hypocrit I'd have to be hurt by what you said....all I did was respond to it.

Learn english, it's your friend.

Zamtuk wrote:I had mine first. He is a nerdy uncreative sheep! I win by default you see.

I plagiarized you like I plagiarized Jice.

But really, I had the idea before I saw yours. You just implemented it first! Clearly you have perfected your mind-control ray gun which you saw Stewie build in Family Guy Episode #18. The blueprints are available online so I'm almost positive that's how you knew to steal my avatar idea!

Pilsburry wrote:Oh and FYI, I'm not a hypocrit for responding. To be a hypocrit I'd have to be hurt by what you said....all I did was respond to it.

Learn english, it's your friend.

Yes, but in that post, as in every single post you ever make there are more than one point to them. I addressed one. You replied with another. I said it once, and I'll say it again, if you don't care, don't respond. You should really cut the whole better than thou routine, because when you come down to our (obviously inferior) level, to you know, respond, it makes you look foolish. My english is just fine.

For Xou:

You people are too mean. Just because the guy asks questions or actually posts on topic doesnt mean he just rambles...well sometimes. This is the only time ive seen him "pick or flame" on someone.


Besides if you dont stop picking on him, Ill have to call you a Clingon or something.

This thread sucks.

Nerd Sheep need a cape made from crown royal bags, and a light saber

Same with Chidoro, with him I imagine a pompus fat guy....he seems of the mindset that he can make things true. He just has to say it loud enough and then squash anyone who says anything to the contrary. Now he may not be fat, but that's my mental picture of him...because most guys I have known with his personality were fat in the past so he just inherited that picture.

Pils you have an unhealthy obsession with "fat". Seriously, not flaming you now, could you consider taking a few hours of psychological therapy a week? Maybe instead of few gym hours if your schedule's too busy.
I think it would be good for you, your self esteem and how you perceive the world and stereotype people.
Good luck

Flawed and imperfect people, flaming other flawed and imperfect people.

See Adex understands....

Also Zamtuk, I said I don't care what you call me. That doesn't mean I can't reply....and replying doesn't mean I care. Your assuming way too much. All that means is I don't want to watch a re-run on cable.

LOL Pils

Zamtuk wrote:

Pilsburry wrote: mean I can be in the bar with 10 friends, and say maybe 5 sentences over 3 hours. That's not uncommon.

No fucking shit, your scared shitless to open your mouth to the opposite sex.

As to you not caring, bullshit. You respond to every post that I, Truant,

I normally won't butt in for fear of Teh fnord (tm), but in defense of Pils he is probably more normal outside of these boards than you might think. Now granted, his posts here sometimes make me want to commit sepuku with the spoons from the Soup Kitchen Barbie's utensil set rather than read them. Overall he is an intelligent person and not openly mean towards anyone...fat or not.

As for shy towards women.....well I can't answer that for sure, but I happen to know that he spent much of a Thursday night wearing panties on his head in a strip club...and some of the strippers there had taken to putting pieces of their costumes on him. So he must have had some kind of game or they would have taken any cash and run to the next sap.

Flawed and imperfect people, flaming other flawed and imperfect people.

No, it's more like, flawed and imperfect people flaming really fucking stupid moronic flawed and imperfect people.

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:So he must have had some kind of game or they would have taken any cash and run to the next sap.

All Pilsburry aside, you really can't judge anyone's game from their actions at a strip club. Those girls are professionally trained to form a connection with someone and make them think that the girl is interested in them. It's they whole way they make money.

If he took one of them home without paying her, I'll allow that remark, otherwise I think it should be stricken from the record.

I dated a stripper once. ahhhhh, the memories...

This thread sucks

Sylvus wrote:

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:So he must have had some kind of game or they would have taken any cash and run to the next sap.

All Pilsburry aside, you really can't judge anyone's game from their actions at a strip club. Those girls are professionally trained to form a connection with someone and make them think that the girl is interested in them. It's they whole way they make money.

If he took one of them home without paying her, I'll allow that remark, otherwise I think it should be stricken from the record.

It is the courts opinion that the remarks by Zamtuk were that Pilsburry was afraid to talk to women. It would be impossible for these girls, even strippers, to make a connection and be able to strip him of his cash without his being able to converse with said girls. I will allow the remarks to stand and ask Mr Zamtuk to refrain from hounding the witness.

I don't have game, but I'm not as shy around strippers....it's not a date thing.

I've never taken a stripper home, never really thought about it. But I have had them come over to my table and stay all night then ask if I would stay while they close up the bar so we could talk some....and I hadn't spent any money on them....

Most of the time if they come over and start talking...that's a lead in before they ask you for a lap dance, but once in a while they just actually want to talk or something. I don't mind talking to them, some of them are actually nice and intelligent....but a lot aren't and it's easy to tell. I know when someone is feeding me bullshit.

The rest of what Kilmoll said is true though...I'm fairly normal IRL not mean, verbose, or judgemental like people think I would be.

I think its funny when guys try to impress each other by saying they dated strippers, as if its some kind of status thing. Every stripper I've met was a complete idiot when it came down to it. *shrug*

lalanae you like belle and sebastian?
rock on!

Abelard wrote:lalanae you like belle and sebastian?
rock on!

i cream over belle & sebastian

Lalanae wrote:

Abelard wrote:lalanae you like belle and sebastian?
rock on!

i cream over belle & sebastian

!

Your only partially right.

*Most* Strippers are total morons. And many of them are greedy arrogant whores......

But not all of them. I've met a few nice ones. Some of them are just normal people who found out they can make 10x as much money in half as much time if they take off thier clothes.

I mean you would be surprised how normal some of them are...it's just not a very large percent of the population heh.

But yeah it is kinda funny how gusy always brag about it, what's funnier is they are almost always lying....or it was the ugliest stripper in the tri-state area.

How many strippers do you know?

I have only met a couple strippers. Nice girls. I have met many porn folk...they were all nice also. Interesting enough, most of the porn people I have met are married and quite normal, despite the strange jobs.

Don't classify strippers as morons. They are just a slice of society...some are really smart, some are dumb as spokes... much can be said of any 'class' of occupation or group of people.

*Most* Strippers are total morons. And many of them are greedy arrogant whores......

damn pils, you must be an expert to state that, how many strippers you been paying for?

I've talked to quite a few strippers and not a one had any brains. Maybe my expectations of intelligence from people are higher than yours, but that is what I've found. And just because I'm female doesn't mean I haven't spent any time inside strip clubs. That is completely not the case.

Canelek wrote:Don't classify strippers as morons. They are just a slice of society...some are really smart, some are dumb as spokes... much can be said of any 'class' of occupation or group of people.

Thats ridiculous. Certain types of people choose certain careers. Stripping is a CLASSIC case of a career chosen because of personal issues, not because of interests or skills. Girls who choose stripping as a career usually had esteem issues, so they are trying to make up for it by being "worshipped" by a bunch of horny lonely guys. Attractive, smart girls with confidence in their own abilities do NOT become strippers. They do something that makes them happy. No stripper I've ever talked to say she really likes stripping. Maybe as a guy, you don't hear that from them, but it's true. Plus the percentage of strippers who were sexually abused as children is alarmingly high. Its a sad business.

The same goes for the porn industry. Without going into too much, I do know a lot more than your average girl about the industry. In some ways it's better than stripping though, because the workers have more control over what they want and don't want to do and they are "working" with other "professionals."

There is plenty out there on the pschological aspects of typical sex industry workers. Sex isn't like typing or sewing or bikeriding. It inherently comes with a lot of baggage. Its not just another job.

I should clarify that I don't "judge" strippers for what they do. I'm always nice to them, maybe even a bit sympathetic at times... But I will say, they are by nature, dumb girls.

That was a lot to read...

I go to college with a few strippers. The best damn money is in that profession if you go to school. Hell, if there was a way I could make 350-400 dollars in one night (thats just a weeknight), without selling drugs, I would do it.

Xyun wrote:I dated a stripper once. ahhhhh, the memories...

Was she the girl who snorted coke off your cock?

Never thought a thread about strippers could be so droll. Oh wait, it was about Pilsbury? Ah!

Was she the girl who snorted coke off your cock?

nope.

I wouldn't say I "know" a lot of strippers but I have had conversations with them.

I go to a club maybe once a year or so, and I'll talk to like 3-4 girls while I'm there. I'm 29, so maybe I've gone a good dozen times or so...I wouldn't say that's a lot for my age.

Anyway that's around 30 strippers I've talked to...

My impression is that the chance a stripper has a low IQ, molested, or greedy is like 3x higher or more then you would find in a desk job.

But I don't like to make assumptions about people I meet IRL. I take them on a case by case basis. The only assumption I make when I talk to a stripper is that she wants my cash....and that's because it's her job to convince me to give it to her, and it has nothing to do with her personality. They don't have to be greedy to do thier job, I'll find if they are greedy during the conversation.

Oh and yes I'd consider stripping for money if I thought I could pull a steady income from it for a few years. I'd probably make like $1.50 and that change is fucking cold.

A good stripper in the right club makes a lot of cash. His estimates were on the money for a good stripper in a good bar. Butit's weekdays he talked about...weekends...maybe $1,000 I think I've heard some make $2,000...that's crazy.

A good stripper can work thurs-fri-sat 6 hours each...and make more then most of us here do in 40 hours. It's not unheard of for strippers to break 60k I think that's probably a fairly conservative number. I wouldn't doubt quite a few break 100k.

And you have to remember who strips...were talking 19, 20, 21, 22 year old girls...they don't have educations yet or experience....compare 60k to what you were making at age 19.

on insomniac, they had a stripper with a bachlors i beleive in accouting
she says she strips because its more money

Xyun wrote:nope.

Damn!

I wouldn't say I "know" a lot of strippers but I have had conversations with them.

I go to a club maybe once a year or so, and I'll talk to like 3-4 girls while I'm there. I'm 29, so maybe I've gone a good dozen times or so...I wouldn't say that's a lot for my age.

Anyway that's around 30 strippers I've talked to...

My impression is that the chance a stripper has a low IQ, molested, or greedy is like 3x higher or more then you would find in a desk job.

lol wtf.

ok pils I've tried not to flame you but this is just too enticing. WTF are you doing at a strip club TALKING to strippers? It's not a fucking convention. They are there to make money and you are there to get titties rubbed in your face for a buck. I don't often go to tittie bars to make friends or for intelligent conversation. I go there because, like most guys, I like titties, and I especially like 'em on either side of my head. And hey, if they wanna nibble on my ear that's ok too.

ok funny story. I took a real shy buddy of mine to a strip club a few weeks ago. I made sure to get us seats on pervert row. It was his first time there and he was too embarrassed to get up and tip the girls on stage. He would wait till they finished dancing and when they were getting off stage he would tap them on the shoulder and offer a dollar. They would hold out their panty string and his face would turn bright red and then he'd put the dollar in their hands!! I was rolling. I started giving the strippers 2 or 3 bucks if they sat on his lap and rubbed their titties in his face. lol. He begged me not to do it any more but I couldn't help it. I just loved watching his face turn red as a lobster every time a stripper got close to him. It was great.

I don't try and strike up conversation with them, they just start talking so I talk back. Sometimes they don't stop talking and they just go on and on.

I even had one on the dance stage once rubbing her tits in my face....next thing I knew she was talking to me...like for awhile...only chick on stage. Everyone was staring so I told her to come talk when she was done on stage heh. Same night as the girl who asked me to stay after closing to talk, but different girls, one was asain (the one on stage) and the other was a blonde.

I don't know why they do that...but they do and I don't mind talking to them, well sometimes it's an exercise in patience, because if they are really stupid it's hard to even hold idle chit-chat.

I'm not like your friend, well I was the first time at a strip club...I got really nervous. Now I handle myself fine in the club. I'll get lap dances or whatever if I want one....Kilmoll or Kylere can vouch for me on that.