Posted: April 7, 2007, 12:26 pm

I just assumed since most of the liberal America hater types always use Freedom of Speech, they might actually believe in it as a priciple not just ever so selectively when it applies to their benefit. I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarification.Aslanna wrote:Last I knew Freedom of Speech doesn't apply to privately run internet message boards. Perhaps you'd like to read up on what 'Freedom of Speech' actually means before you throw it around like an ignoramus.
Nali wrote:He -did- ask for it, right
Also... how did this turn into a match between liberals and conservatives?
What would you have done had you been presented with an identical PM? Been civilized and vowed to change?Thess wrote:Sylvus tried to handle the situation in a civilized controlled manor, Cart basically threw it back in his face and said 'ban me'. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Cartalas then getting perma-banned.
Or smart people and people like yourself.Kylere wrote:Everything does on VV, it is like crips and bloods.
kyoukan's right. How can we compete with such witty comebacks like that one?kyoukan wrote:Or smart people and people like yourself.Kylere wrote:Everything does on VV, it is like crips and bloods.
Now you are telling those you don't like to go away. I thought we just established you just ban those you don't like. I'm confused.kyoukan wrote:This message board was created because people weren't happy with the administration of the old one. If you're not happy, I reiterate, please fucking leave and start your own. Feel free to take along anyone that can fucking tolerate you with you. When I was dissatisfied, I left until things changed.
I cannot stress enough the fact that you are perfectly free to go away at any time. In fact I encourage it.
I don't get all CAPPED out over things like you do so there's no need to take a break.kyoukan wrote: I cannot stress enough the fact that you are perfectly free to go away at any time. In fact I encourage it.
Because our freedom of speech in America is absolutely unlimited and unrestricted, right? Wait, it's not. It has rules.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I just assumed since most of the liberal America hater types always use Freedom of Speech, they might actually believe in it as a priciple not just ever so selectively when it applies to their benefit. I stand corrected. Thank you for the clarification.Aslanna wrote:Last I knew Freedom of Speech doesn't apply to privately run internet message boards. Perhaps you'd like to read up on what 'Freedom of Speech' actually means before you throw it around like an ignoramus.
Gentlemen, we got 20 calls about the David Hyde-Pierce incident. And as you know, one call equals a billion people, which means 20 billion people were offended by this. Needless to say, something must be done.
take my word for it, you sanctimonious little douche bag: If people got banned because I didn't like them, your post count history for VV would have been 1.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Now you are telling those you don't like to go away. I thought we just established you just ban those you don't like. I'm confused.
It wasn't just that, at the end of the race he'd say, "HAHA, MADE YOU RUN!".Drinsic Darkwood wrote: Flame him instead of ban him? Why? To what end? The moron had to know he was wrong and just took pleasure in pissing people off without contributing fuckall. Cartalas was murdered verbally in every argument he ever took part in, and you could tell he enjoyed it. Where's the fun in beating a cripple in a foot-race?
I guess he misses Searyx.Sargeras wrote:Apparently, he did give a fuck.Cartalas wrote:Like I give a fuck, Veeshanvault has been dying a slow death anyways. Your little shitclan have run off all the worth while posters anyways. See ya folks have fun with your " OMG BUSH IS THE DEBIL THREADS"
I'm just curious as to who he was refering to as "worth while posters".
Fairweather Pure wrote:There's actually more at stake here than just Cart's banning from this board. We need to back our mod when they enforce one of the very, very few rules we have here. If a person cannot manage to handle those very simple rules, then fuck em. You shouldn't have broken the rules. It's not like he hasn't been warned repeaditly in the past.![]()
He shouldn't have been confronted in PMs by Sylvus in the first place. Sylvus should have told the fuckign pussys who PM'd him to use the ignore feature or just grow a set and not read his posts or stop being so sensitive or stop enticing Cart in every thread and then act shocked when he responds in kind. You created the monster he became.Fairweather Pure wrote: I would've done the same thing if anyone would have posted what he did, in the manner he did after several warnings. .
Really? No warnings then? It was simply a PMed warning. I don't see what's so confrontational about a mod, you know, MODERATING. Do you think it was a greta idea for Cart to post said PM on the board, daring him to get banned? Should he have no repercussions for his continued breaking of the board rules and blatant disregard for his repeated warnings?Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:He shouldn't have been confronted in PMs by Sylvus in the first place. Sylvus should have told the fuckign pussys who PM'd him to use the ignore feature or just grow a set and not read his posts or stop being so sensitive or stop enticing Cart in every thread and then act shocked when he responds in kind. You created the monster he became.Fairweather Pure wrote: I would've done the same thing if anyone would have posted what he did, in the manner he did after several warnings. .
Except thats not the way it is and you know it- thats the point. If it was that simple kyoukan and nick to name a few would already be permanently banned.Fairweather Pure wrote:Really? No warnings then? It was simply a PMed warning. I don't see what's so confrontational about a mod, you know, MODERATING. Do you think it was a greta idea for Cart to post said PM on the board, daring him to get banned? Should he have no repercussions for his continued breaking of the board rules and blatant disregard for his repeated warnings?Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:He shouldn't have been confronted in PMs by Sylvus in the first place. Sylvus should have told the fuckign pussys who PM'd him to use the ignore feature or just grow a set and not read his posts or stop being so sensitive or stop enticing Cart in every thread and then act shocked when he responds in kind. You created the monster he became.Fairweather Pure wrote: I would've done the same thing if anyone would have posted what he did, in the manner he did after several warnings. .
I thought Sylvus moderated VV exactely how I would expect. Knock it the fuck off or I'll ban your ass. If anything, I thought he was too nice.
I hope everyone here takes away a bit of knowledge from all this. Do not fuck with the mods. Do not tempt fate. Follow the whopping 2 fucking rules we have on this board or else you'll get banned. That's really all this boils down to. If you read anything more into it, I hope you're wearing a goddamn tinfoil hat.
I can't speak for others, but I'm having no "outrage" at all. Just trying to have a conversation and express my opinions.Fairweather Pure wrote:If
It's funny to see so much outrage over this. It's like when people defend the criminal who was shot while he was breaking into someone's house. I don't understand how you have a leg to stand on in this discussion, except what you're making up in your head. You people have some weird, and totally fucked up sense of outrage.
Then ignore my last paragraph if it dosen't apply to you, and instead address the overall point of my posts.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I can't speak for others, but I'm having no "outrage" at all. Just trying to have a conversation and express my opinions.Fairweather Pure wrote:If
It's funny to see so much outrage over this. It's like when people defend the criminal who was shot while he was breaking into someone's house. I don't understand how you have a leg to stand on in this discussion, except what you're making up in your head. You people have some weird, and totally fucked up sense of outrage.
Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.Nick wrote:Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....
Oh wait, it was Funk.
Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.
Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot
Feeling's mutual, you worthless wigger fuckbag.Funkmasterr wrote:Well if nothing else, this whole experience has reminded me how much I really truly detest some of you worthless fuckstains, and I thank you all for that.
Well hey man, I'll apologise for that nowFunkmasterr wrote:Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.
Actually, Cart recieved warnings for those things and continued to do them. I have no idea if Nick had someone PM a mod if he violated a rule. If so, he's either stopped doing it, or no one felt offended enough to report him in the first place.Funkmasterr wrote:Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.Nick wrote:Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....
Oh wait, it was Funk.
Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.
Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot
So it's not as simple as the two rules like you said it was originally, hypocrit?Fairweather Pure wrote:Actually, Cart recieved warnings for those things and continued to do them. I have no idea if Nick had someone PM a mod if he violated a rule. If so, he's either stopped doing it, or no one felt offended enough to report him in the first place.Funkmasterr wrote:Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.Nick wrote:Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....
Oh wait, it was Funk.
Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.
Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot
Furthermore, he didn't make a message daring the mod to ban him and throw a couple insults in for good measure.
So, you're missing the point.
I would have replied back to him in a PM, and tried to work things out. If I disagreed with what he said, I would have argued it, however there wasn't much to argue with when he consistently broke the few rules we've had since day one.Leonaerd wrote:What would you have done had you been presented with an identical PM? Been civilized and vowed to change?Thess wrote:Sylvus tried to handle the situation in a civilized controlled manor, Cart basically threw it back in his face and said 'ban me'. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Cartalas then getting perma-banned.
Cartalas had infrequently entertaining posts, some of which I'll miss. I think, as other people have said in this thread, the idea of permanently banning goes against what VV stands for. I certainly don't think trolling should be a bannable offense on a board with an Ignore option. Maybe I'm just a lot better at handling trashy posts than others. Whatever. The Gestapo will probably have me post more conservatively from now on.
Not necessarily! See my treatise on similarities between Sylvus and Himmler in his myspace comments!Thess wrote:I would have replied back to him in a PM, and tried to work things out. If I disagreed with what he said, I would have argued it, however there wasn't much to argue with when he consistently broke the few rules we've had since day one.Leonaerd wrote:What would you have done had you been presented with an identical PM? Been civilized and vowed to change?Thess wrote:Sylvus tried to handle the situation in a civilized controlled manor, Cart basically threw it back in his face and said 'ban me'. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Cartalas then getting perma-banned.
Cartalas had infrequently entertaining posts, some of which I'll miss. I think, as other people have said in this thread, the idea of permanently banning goes against what VV stands for. I certainly don't think trolling should be a bannable offense on a board with an Ignore option. Maybe I'm just a lot better at handling trashy posts than others. Whatever. The Gestapo will probably have me post more conservatively from now on.
I really hope you aren't serious about the gestapo comments, they are beyond absurd.
But funny.Thess wrote:I would have replied back to him in a PM, and tried to work things out. If I disagreed with what he said, I would have argued it, however there wasn't much to argue with when he consistently broke the few rules we've had since day one.Leonaerd wrote:What would you have done had you been presented with an identical PM? Been civilized and vowed to change?Thess wrote:Sylvus tried to handle the situation in a civilized controlled manor, Cart basically threw it back in his face and said 'ban me'. I find it very hard to have any sympathy for Cartalas then getting perma-banned.
Cartalas had infrequently entertaining posts, some of which I'll miss. I think, as other people have said in this thread, the idea of permanently banning goes against what VV stands for. I certainly don't think trolling should be a bannable offense on a board with an Ignore option. Maybe I'm just a lot better at handling trashy posts than others. Whatever. The Gestapo will probably have me post more conservatively from now on.
I really hope you aren't serious about the gestapo comments, they are beyond absurd.
Someone would have to complain first and point it out to the mod, who would then send that person a PM warning. That person would then stop whatever they were doing. If no one PMs the mod, exactely how will they know or care that someone has broken a rule? Why do I have to explain this to you anyway? Can your mind not fill in the fucking blanks, or do you take everything in life my it's literal meaning? You cannot be this stupid. Oh wait. This is Funkmaster, your stupidity is legendary on this board. Fucking legendary.Funkmasterr wrote:So it's not as simple as the two rules like you said it was originally, hypocrit?Fairweather Pure wrote:Actually, Cart recieved warnings for those things and continued to do them. I have no idea if Nick had someone PM a mod if he violated a rule. If so, he's either stopped doing it, or no one felt offended enough to report him in the first place.Funkmasterr wrote:Way to totally miss the point. He said it was as simple as if you break one of the two rules you get banned, I stated that you and kyoukan have both broken one or both of those rules (you made a comment about my rl picture) - so following that logic you should be permanently banned.Nick wrote:Jesus, you just compared me to Cart....
Oh wait, it was Funk.
Jesus I was worried it was someone intelligent there for a second.
Yeah, all those violent sexual attacks I make and it's true, every single post I make is a one liner where I never discuss the issue at hand, especially in CE! It's totally the same thing because you see I'm against the war whilst you're a fucking hick! Great logic. Christ almight you really are a fucking idiot
Furthermore, he didn't make a message daring the mod to ban him and throw a couple insults in for good measure.
So, you're missing the point.
hows Norman doin?Sylvos wrote:hay guyz wuts goin on????????