Express your support for the troops - Link

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » February 13, 2003, 5:16 pm

Show a little support for the troops here...

http://www.defendamerica.mil/nmam.html

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 13, 2003, 5:23 pm

Thank you Met. I signed it.

Cartalas · Post by **Cartalas** » February 13, 2003, 5:27 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Thank you Met. I signed it.

Thanx Met I signed up. Mirr I also signed you up I hope you dont mind

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 13, 2003, 5:28 pm

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » February 13, 2003, 5:31 pm

Cartalas wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:Thank you Met. I signed it.

Thanx Met I signed up. Mirr I also signed you up I hope you dont mind

OMG WUT A BURN!!!1!1!!

Fallanthas · Post by **Fallanthas** » February 13, 2003, 5:32 pm

A very worthwhile ten seconds on my time.

Thanks for the link, Metanis.

Atokal · Post by **Atokal** » February 13, 2003, 5:42 pm

I signed it and also signed up Kyoukan

Post by **Sylvus** » February 13, 2003, 5:45 pm

While I don't really agree with the war, the troops have little say in where they are deployed and what they are ordered to do. I support them 100% and hope that all of them will make it home safely.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I signed it.

miir · Post by **miir** » February 13, 2003, 5:54 pm

Why wouldn't I sign it?

Those men and women aren't making the decisions, they are fighting for thier country. The deserve your utmost respect and support.

I'm not anti-american, anti-bush or anti-war.
I just disagree with the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » February 13, 2003, 5:56 pm

Sylvus wrote:While I don't really agree with the war, the troops have little say in where they are deployed and what they are ordered to do. I support them 100% and hope that all of them will make it home safely.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I signed it.

Thanks!

I hope more will sign.

miir · Post by **miir** » February 13, 2003, 5:57 pm

I find it interesting that they have Iraq on the list of countries.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · February 13, 2003, 6:06 pm

miir wrote:I find it interesting that they have Iraq on the list of countries.

Becasue one of the reasons we are doing this is to liberate them.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 13, 2003, 6:23 pm

why would I thank someone for defending my freedom when they are massing to invade and conquer a country that is not a threat to it?

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 13, 2003, 6:32 pm

I'm so glad this turned into another war thread!

History will show that there was another madman oppressing his people that was labaled a threat to the world by the U.S. if he were left to his own devices. That man, was Jesus Christ. Wait, no, that's not it. That man, was Castro. Saddamn is our new Castro. Let's hope we have better luck with this one. Seeing as how we couldn't unseat a man from power who is on a fucking island only 90 miles off our own coastline.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » February 13, 2003, 7:04 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:I'm so glad this turned into another war thread!

...Seeing as how we couldn't unseat a man from power who is on a fucking island only 90 miles off our own coastline.

Cuba != Iraq

The situations are very different.

Since you started it FP, tell the folks here how JFK stopped the Cuban Missile Crisis? It wasn't by waiting for the weapons inspectors to show up...

Since you probably don't know the answer I'll clue you in... JFK told the US Military to prepare for war.

You want peace? Be ready and willing to rage war.

-end today's history lesson.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 13, 2003, 7:07 pm

JFK almost touched off a nuclear armageddon that would have annihilated the better part of the planet and left it a radioactive wasteland for several thousand years. Please don't learn world history from Kevin Costner movies.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » February 13, 2003, 7:11 pm

Please don't learn world history from Kevin Costner movies.

ROFL! Oliver Stone is one paranoid motherfucker...

Lindain · Post by **Lindain** » February 14, 2003, 5:37 am

You are an idiot aren't you Kyo? I'm really interested to hear your explanation on why Iraq isn't a threat to the U.S. And for your information, the U.S military isn't a democracy. They are told to go somewhere..they go. They are told to fight someone..they fight. No questions asked. Why? Because it's they're duty. They choose to defend they're country. They know the risks and dangers. They know they might lose they're life in the process.

What saddens me is that nothing has changed since Vietnam. The American people as a whole still look down at the military, showing no respect, just like you. You and the majority of the American populace spit on the military and blame them for your government's faults. Stop pointing your finger and damning the military. Next time, point it at Congress.

I for one signed it and signed it proudly knowing what it is our military goes through on a daily basis and what they sacrafice to protect our freedoms. /salute

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 14, 2003, 5:59 am

This cause seems more worthy

http://www.evilninja.net/buybush.htm

Tantolar · Post by **Tantolar** » February 14, 2003, 6:38 am

Kyoukan, I dislike as much as anyone the thought of going into a full scale war with Iraq based on the VERY meager "evidence" of hostile intent that has been presented thus far.

However, the people in the US military put their trust in this nation and have said 'I am willing to give my all for the United States.' They have my utmost respect and gratitude to be willing to risk their lives so that I may be able to live my life in peace, even when we are at war.

They do not get to choose where they go and when. This does not make them stupid, or warmongers, or sheep. They have placed their trust in the leaders of this nation, who represent its people. WE are the ones who need to change their course of action if we feel it is incorrect. Blame the apathy of the citizens who oppose the war, not the pawns on the battlefield.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » February 14, 2003, 8:20 am

I'm not saying it's their fault, I'm just saying I'm not going to send them a heart warming thank you and well wishes to them.

I don't thank soldiers that fly off to foreign countries to conquer it in the name of a imperialist politician and his oil interests any more than a thank a cop for keeping the highways safe by giving me a speeding ticket.

Forthe · Post by **Forthe** » February 14, 2003, 8:56 am

I'd wish the men and women luck and safety. However, I wouldn't sugar coat it with the defending your freedom line. Some of those poor people will die for what? Seems the lessons of Vietnam are lost, do you believe the people that died in vietnam died for your freedom?

Still they signed up for this knowing full well it could happen. I feel worse for the Iraqi citizens they will kill.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » February 14, 2003, 10:16 am

What is the military exactly? Isn't it a bunch of kids recruited at the age of 18 to be brainwashed and do exactly as they are told without questioning the motives of their superiors? WTF about it do you want me to respect? The idiots that sign up or the corrupt biggots that give the orders? A corrupt war machine deserves no respect.

If you are willing to die for a cause, you better make damn sure you believe in the cause you are dying for. We bait these kids into joining in the name of protecting freedom, then we send them off to wars that have nothing to do with our freedom. Maybe if this was a just war I would pat them on the back, but as it stands, I feel sorry for them.

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » February 14, 2003, 10:20 am

Does Canada even have a miritary?

Vetiria · Post by **Vetiria** » February 14, 2003, 10:56 am

Gurugurumaki~ wrote:Does Canada even have a miritary?

Yes, and it has military personnel in the Gulf region right now deciding where the Canadian troops that are about to be shipped out are going to be.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » February 14, 2003, 11:09 am

Metanis, I think you missed the subtle point of my post. The USA needs an enemy at all times. Castro was labeled a threat of the highest level. However, now he's chillin' 90 miles off our coast, puffing on a cigar, happy as a clam. So, since he is a dictator and almost caused nuclear annihilation, why do we ignore him and focus on Saddamn instead? Or why has Bin Laden, after months and months of being saturated on the news suddenly fallen to the wayside? The American war machine has changed priorities again, and it will continue to do so over and over. Saddamn is just the current enemy. If he outlives us yet again, Kim Jong, the president of North Korea, will get the limelight and we'll rarely if ever hear from Saddamn again. Kim Jong will be painted as the worst villian yet and his crimes will be everywhere you look. Those crimes will be the ones he's performing right now and has been for years. America is just looking the other way for the momment. It's so predicatable that I'm hard pressed to really give a shit who our government wants me to hate this week.

War and our soldiers---

I have friends in the armed forces. I want them to be safe. You'll be hard pressed to find a person from the Vietnam era and prior who want another war (other than politicians of course). All those people who died in Vietnam, died in vain. They died for politics. I do not want my friends and family members in harm's way for politics. I feel very strongly that this war is not neccessary and can be avoided, saving the lives of thousands. I have no idea how that can be construed as un-American.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » February 14, 2003, 12:59 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Metanis, I think you missed the subtle point of my post. The USA needs an enemy at all times. Castro was labeled a threat of the highest level. However, now he's chillin' 90 miles off our coast, puffing on a cigar, happy as a clam. So, since he is a dictator and almost caused nuclear annihilation, why do we ignore him and focus on Saddamn instead? Or why has Bin Laden, after months and months of being saturated on the news suddenly fallen to the wayside? The American war machine has changed priorities again, and it will continue to do so over and over. Saddamn is just the current enemy. If he outlives us yet again, Kim Jong, the president of North Korea, will get the limelight and we'll rarely if ever hear from Saddamn again. Kim Jong will be painted as the worst villian yet and his crimes will be everywhere you look. Those crimes will be the ones he's performing right now and has been for years. America is just looking the other way for the momment. It's so predicatable that I'm hard pressed to really give a shit who our government wants me to hate this week.

War and our soldiers---

I have friends in the armed forces. I want them to be safe. You'll be hard pressed to find a person from the Vietnam era and prior who want another war (other than politicians of course). All those people who died in Vietnam, died in vain. They died for politics. I do not want my friends and family members in harm's way for politics. I feel very strongly that this war is not neccessary and can be avoided, saving the lives of thousands. I have no idea how that can be construed as un-American.

Fair, I think you are Wrong.

I do however appreciate that you post reasoned and articulate positions.

Nobody I know wants their friends or families in harm's way. I happen to think the most prudent way to deal with Saddam's threat is to take him out now rather than wait for him kill more people. History shows that inaction can be the worst option.

One last comment; the USA is fighting on many fronts, lack of news coverage doesn't equate to "the war machine" changing priorities.