I've been a vegetarian for two days.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 6, 2011, 1:45 am

Spang wrote:Not eating animals doesn't make you ugly. Eating animals doesn't make you pretty. And vice-versa. Jesus Christ, people, your arguments against vegetarianism/veganism are fucking retarded.

yeah, but being a vegan can definitely make you stinky.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 6, 2011, 1:46 am

Winnow wrote:
Spang wrote:Not eating animals doesn't make you ugly. Eating animals doesn't make you pretty. And vice-versa. Jesus Christ, people, your arguments against vegetarianism/veganism are fucking retarded.
yeah, but being a vegan can definitely make you stinky.

That's not true, either.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 6, 2011, 1:57 am

Vegans fart a lot more as well.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 6, 2011, 2:09 am

Winnow wrote:Vegans fart a lot more as well.

I don't know that that's true, either. Would you happen to have a link to at least one study that proves this claim?

Tegellan · Post by **Tegellan** » December 6, 2011, 7:22 am

They actually fart about the same amount, but it is not supposed to smell as much

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » December 6, 2011, 10:34 am

Spang wrote:Jesus Christ, people, your arguments against vegetarianism/veganism are fucking retarded.

Our responses aren't towards veg*ism itself, but your hyperbole and attitude about it. Your attacking others and noting your moral superiority through not eating meat is at issue.

The "science" you use to justify your position (to yourself, no one else cares that much) is laughable on a young earth creationist "Jesus riding a dinosaur" level.

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 6, 2011, 2:52 pm

I'd eat dinosaurs if I could. Preferrably fatty and delicious brachiosaurs, not those stringy raptors.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 6, 2011, 3:20 pm

If not for dinosaurs how do you think Jesus got around? Surely our lord and savior did not walk to his destinations!

miir · Post by **miir** » December 6, 2011, 3:21 pm

Aslanna wrote:If not for dinosaurs how do you think Jesus got around? Surely our lord and savior did not walk to his destinations!

He surfed... duh

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » December 6, 2011, 3:37 pm

Aslanna wrote:If not for dinosaurs how do you think Jesus got around? Surely our lord and savior did not walk to his destinations!

That was lol-worthy

The Russian and Japanese are looking to clone a wooly mamoth soon, might result in tasty treats.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 6, 2011, 4:04 pm

miir wrote:
Aslanna wrote:If not for dinosaurs how do you think Jesus got around? Surely our lord and savior did not walk to his destinations!
He surfed... duh

Red Sea Pedestrian!

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 7, 2011, 3:19 am

Aabidano wrote:
Aslanna wrote:If not for dinosaurs how do you think Jesus got around? Surely our lord and savior did not walk to his destinations!
That was lol-worthy

The Russian and Japanese are looking to clone a wooly mamoth soon, might result in tasty treats.

Tis a glorious time to be alive!

Drolgin Steingrinder · December 7, 2011, 7:16 am

Spang wrote: your arguments

Spang wrote: fucking retarded.

Me wrote: lolpotkettle

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 7, 2011, 2:21 pm

Hey Dorfgin, you're a fancy Euro-lad, so let me ask you...

What wine would you pair with cloned mammoth steak?

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » December 7, 2011, 3:27 pm

masteen wrote:Hey Dorfgin, you're a fancy Euro-lad, so let me ask you...

What wine would you pair with cloned mammoth steak?

I'd go big... Maybe a Malbec

Post by **Sylvus** » December 7, 2011, 4:02 pm

Don't ask Drolgin, pretty sure those Nords just drink mead.

This is the funniest vegan-related thing I've ever seen (I'm unsure if that's hyperbole or not). If Spang went this route, he'd do a better job converting people.

Hail, Seitan!

Drolgin Steingrinder · December 7, 2011, 9:42 pm

masteen wrote:Hey Dorfgin, you're a fancy Euro-lad, so let me ask you...

What wine would you pair with cloned mammoth steak?

Well, if we assume that mammoth would taste similar to elephant, then it'd be somewhat gamey and a lot sweeter than, say, beef. Going too heavy on the tannins wouldn't work (Cab Sauv), so perhaps a beefy new world syrah or zinfandel, or even better: a good Amarone.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 8, 2011, 1:03 am

Sylvus wrote:Hail, Seitan!

Seitan is delicious. Had some this evening. I also had some black-eyed peas and rice.

miir · Post by **miir** » December 8, 2011, 10:44 am

I also had some black-eyed peas

That black eyed peas dirty dancing thing is worse than raping a cat.
What is wrong with people?
Do they hate ears?

masteen · Post by **masteen** » December 8, 2011, 12:25 pm

Sylvus wrote:Don't ask Drolgin, pretty sure those Nords just drink mead.

This is the funniest vegan-related thing I've ever seen (I'm unsure if that's hyperbole or not). If Spang went this route, he'd do a better job converting people.

Hail, Seitan!

That video did more to interest me in vegan cuisine than anything since this smoking hot granola girl I dated a couple years ago!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 12, 2011, 9:57 pm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - December 9, 2011 Salinas, CA – Pacific International Marketing (“Pacific”) is working with the Food and Drug Administration (“FDA”) and California Department of Public Health to coordinate a recall of Cilantro for potential contamination with Salmonella. FDA has advised that a sample of Pacific Cilantro has tested positive for Salmonella. A total of 6,141 cartons of Cilantro are being recalled.

Salmonella is an organism which can cause serious and sometimes fatal infections in young children, frail or elderly people, and others with weakened immune systems. Healthy persons infected with Salmonella often experience fever, diarrhea (which may be bloody), nausea, vomiting and abdominal pain. In rare circumstances, infection with Salmonella can result in the organism getting into the bloodstream and producing more severe illnesses such as arterial infections (i.e., infected aneurysms), endocarditis and arthritis.

More proof veggies are out to do you harm.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 12, 2011, 11:36 pm

The salmonella most likely originated from animal feces.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 13, 2011, 12:35 am

Prove it!

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 13, 2011, 12:38 am

Aslanna wrote:Prove it!

Okay.

Salmonella live in the intestinal tracts of humans and other animals, including birds. Humans are usually infected by eating foods contaminated with animal feces. Contaminated foods are often of animal origin, such as beef, poultry, milk or eggs, but any food, including fruits and vegetables, may become contaminated. Contaminated foods usually look and smell normal and the contamination should not be expected to be visible.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » December 13, 2011, 12:47 am

Contaminated foods are often of animal origin, such as beef, poultry, milk or eggs, but any food, including fruits and vegetables, may become contaminated.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 13, 2011, 1:01 am

Wow.. How ignorant. Prove this specific case is what I was obviously talking about. Get back to me when you can do that.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 13, 2011, 1:31 am

Aslanna wrote:Wow.. How ignorant. Prove this specific case is what I was obviously talking about. Get back to me when you can do that.

Why does this specific case matter more than the majority of salmonella cases, which originate from animals?

Tyek · Post by **Tyek** » December 13, 2011, 1:37 am

Aslanna wrote:If not for dinosaurs how do you think Jesus got around? Surely our lord and savior did not walk to his destinations!

Of course he walked. He carried me on his back when I was going through tough times.

Dakanaf · Post by **Dakanaf** » December 13, 2011, 4:12 am

Spang wrote:The salmonella most likely originated from animal feces.

Guess what animals eat to make the feces?

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 13, 2011, 5:02 am

Dakanaf wrote:
Spang wrote:The salmonella most likely originated from animal feces.
Guess what animals eat to make the feces?

Doesn't matter.

Salmonella live in the intestinal tracts of humans and other animals, including birds.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » December 13, 2011, 9:14 am

Imagine how many more cases of Salmonella there would be if we didn't kill animals. We're doing you a favor.

Birds are shitting on your vegetables. I'm pretty sure that's a sign not to eat them.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 13, 2011, 9:38 am

Don't forget about manure being used in compost for plants

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 13, 2011, 11:52 am

Spang wrote:Why does this specific case matter more than the majority of salmonella cases, which originate from animals?

Considering that was the context in which I asked you to "Prove it" I'd say it matters a lot to this conversation.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 13, 2011, 5:18 pm

Lynks wrote:Imagine how many more cases of Salmonella there would be if we didn't kill animals.

There'd be a lot less cases of salmonella.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 13, 2011, 5:19 pm

Aslanna wrote:Considering that was the context in which I asked you to "Prove it" I'd say it matters a lot to this conversation.

Let's say this particular case of salmonella originated from a plant. That still doesn't change the fact that most cases of salmonella originate from animals.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » December 13, 2011, 5:27 pm

Spang wrote:
Aslanna wrote:Considering that was the context in which I asked you to "Prove it" I'd say it matters a lot to this conversation.
Let's say this particular case of salmonella originated from a plant. That still doesn't change the fact that most cases of salmonella originate from animals.

So you want to kill the animals.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 13, 2011, 5:46 pm

Boogahz wrote:So you want to kill the animals.

At the very least, I'd like to see factory farming eliminated. The number of salmonella cases and other such things would plummet. Also, the number of animals tortured and slaughtered each year would plummet.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » December 13, 2011, 6:20 pm

Spang wrote:The number of salmonella cases and other such things would plummet. Also, the number of animals tortured and slaughtered each year would plummet.

How do you figure that? My guess is A would increase initially at least and B would remain reasonably steady once the distribution system adjusted itself to the new norm.

(I worked on a chicken producers' data network way back when, the QC and monitoring systems are pretty amazing)

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 13, 2011, 6:52 pm

Aabidano wrote:
Spang wrote:The number of salmonella cases and other such things would plummet. Also, the number of animals tortured and slaughtered each year would plummet.
How do you figure that? My guess is A would increase initially at least and B would remain reasonably steady once the distribution system adjusted itself to the new norm.

Well, there's only one way to find out.

Drolgin Steingrinder · December 13, 2011, 10:07 pm

Spang wrote:
Aabidano wrote:
Spang wrote:The number of salmonella cases and other such things would plummet. Also, the number of animals tortured and slaughtered each year would plummet.
How do you figure that? My guess is A would increase initially at least and B would remain reasonably steady once the distribution system adjusted itself to the new norm.
Well, there's only one way to find out.

My theory is that if you stopped your bullshit missionary work and your pseudoscience, this would be a lot more fun.

I guess there's just one way to find out.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » December 13, 2011, 10:12 pm

Rapid-fire misuse of 'empathy' and 'torture' certainly do not give weight to said pseudoscience. Well, unless there was a quasi-science focusing solely on drama queens... actually, that may be the Fox Network.

Leonaerd · Post by **Leonaerd** » December 13, 2011, 10:26 pm

Drolgin Steingrinder wrote:
Spang wrote:
Aabidano wrote:
Spang wrote:The number of salmonella cases and other such things would plummet. Also, the number of animals tortured and slaughtered each year would plummet.
How do you figure that? My guess is A would increase initially at least and B would remain reasonably steady once the distribution system adjusted itself to the new norm.
Well, there's only one way to find out.
My theory is that if you stopped your bullshit missionary work and your pseudoscience, this would be a lot more fun.

You know what's fun?

Bacon.

Therefore, Spang doesn't want it to be fun.

Science.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 14, 2011, 3:46 am

Drolgin Steingrinder wrote:My theory is that if you stopped your bullshit missionary work and your pseudoscience, this would be a lot more fun.

I'm merely responding to inaccurate bullshit at this point.

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » December 14, 2011, 3:59 am

I'm sorry as a vegan you are barred from using the word 'bullshit' as it is deemed hurtful to the bovines in question.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 14, 2011, 4:25 am

Aslanna wrote:I'm sorry as a vegan you are barred from using the word 'bullshit' as it is deemed hurtful to the bovines in question.

Torturing and slaughtering a bovine is hurtful. Saying the word bullshit is not.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 14, 2011, 10:09 am

Spang is the poster child for why we need college reform.

Aabidano · Post by **Aabidano** » December 14, 2011, 4:36 pm

Canelek wrote:...was a quasi-science focusing solely on drama queens... actually, that may be the Fox Network.

Wouldn't be complete without Boehners' mascara running like a wanna be Tammy Fay.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » December 14, 2011, 7:08 pm

"Even if you're a minority of one, the truth is the truth." - Gandhi

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » December 14, 2011, 7:17 pm

It only takes one person to make an ass out of themselves. - Candy Bottoms

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » December 14, 2011, 7:18 pm

One is the loneliest number - Three Dog Night