The U.S.S. New York

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 30, 2008, 11:00 am

http://www.ussnewyork.com/

Amazing. What a credit to America and our ability to take a tragedy and rise above it. We have so much to be proud of. "Never Forget"

miir · Post by **miir** » July 30, 2008, 11:50 am

Who cares?
How exactly is this a current event?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 30, 2008, 11:59 am

I was trying to figure out the same thing, and it appears, from the link, that it is/was being built out of the recycled steel from the World Trade Center.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 30, 2008, 12:15 pm

Yea, the Bow Stem (the cutting edge of the Bow) used some recycled steel from the world trade center.

I suppose it's semi-interesting to boat aficionados.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 30, 2008, 12:18 pm

I just found out about it. That makes it current. It was made out of steel from the World Trade center. That makes it a CE worthy post. I believe it was christened back in March, yet I don't recall seeing the reports about this on this news. What a monumentous feat. What a great story. But, the media doesn't like covering such patriotic wonderous things like this during a campaign season where it is only important to project how awful things are and that we need a savior to bring us change. That makes it a CE worthy post.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 30, 2008, 12:29 pm

It was made out of steel from the World Trade center.

That's a bit misleading.
A small piece of the ship used some steel salvaged from the world trade center.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 30, 2008, 12:50 pm

You always seem to be looking for the marshmallow bit in the shit cereal. You hold it up and say "Look, a marshmallow!", while all I can think of is that it's in a bowl full of shit.

It's very hard form me to find anything good to say about anything from this administration. It's been a catastrophe. It is going to take a new president and staff before I even start looking for marshmallows again.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 30, 2008, 12:58 pm

It would be you that is doing that. The bowl is full of marshmallow with a spec of shit in it. You're the one holding up the spec and calling the whole thing shit.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » July 30, 2008, 1:07 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:You always seem to be looking for the marshmallow bit in the shit cereal. You hold it up and say "Look, a marshmallow!", while all I can think of is that it's in a bowl full of shit.

It's very hard form me to find anything good to say about anything from this administration. It's been a catastrophe. It is going to take a new president and staff before I even start looking for marshmallows again.

What the fuck does the administration have to do with this you stupid twat?

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 30, 2008, 1:34 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I just found out about it. That makes it current. It was made out of steel from the World Trade center. That makes it a CE worthy post. I believe it was christened back in March, yet I don't recall seeing the reports about this on this news. What a monumentous feat. What a great story. But, the media doesn't like covering such patriotic wonderous things like this during a campaign season where it is only important to project how awful things are and that we need a savior to bring us change. That makes it a CE worthy post.

December 28th, 2002
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2611059.stm

August 17th, 2005
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?sect ... chive=true

February 29th, 2008
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/uss-new-york/72115/

February 29th, 2008
http://www.wlox.com/global/story.asp?s=7947806

March 1st, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334258,00.html

March 2nd, 2008
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/03 ... _worl.html

miir · Post by **miir** » July 30, 2008, 1:42 pm

0.03% of the ship was made from steel salvaged from the wtc wreckage.
The steel accounted for roughly $900 of the boats $1 billion dollar cost.

India and China bought tens of thousands of tons of salvage from the WTC site at a rate of $120/ton.
How patriotic is that?

Fash · Post by **Fash** » July 30, 2008, 1:54 pm

Not very. It's just marketing... Instead of just another ship, this one has some 'meaning.'

I think the slogan 'never forget' about 9/11 is really lame. If you want something to remind yourself about surprise attacks, Pearl Harbor was more than sufficient and a lot more serious.

Funkmasterr · Post by **Funkmasterr** » July 30, 2008, 2:48 pm

Of course this has to turn into yet another shit slinging "I think the administration failed" topic here at good old vv.

If you think a Canadians opinions is relevant in deciding if this is a worthy current event or not, your dumber than I ever expected.

miir · Post by **miir** » July 30, 2008, 2:59 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:Of course this has to turn into yet another shit slinging "I think the administration failed" topic here at good old vv.

If you think a Canadians opinions is relevant in deciding if this is a worthy current event or not, your dumber than I ever expected.

Thanks for your valuable contribution to this thread.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » July 30, 2008, 3:43 pm

That's a nice lookin boat.

I don't think I'd ever seen a San Antonio class transport before.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » July 30, 2008, 3:58 pm

The San Antonio class is basically one step up from the Phoenix class. The San Antonio is pretty boring in design and is more of a defenisve class that just gets the job done and stays in service for extended periods. The Phoenix class are a lot flashier and basically have zero defensive mechanisms and just throw pure offense out and hope to survive long enough to win a battle. They also tend to be back in port very early summer and do not come back out until fall.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 30, 2008, 4:32 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:
Fairweather Pure wrote:You always seem to be looking for the marshmallow bit in the shit cereal. You hold it up and say "Look, a marshmallow!", while all I can think of is that it's in a bowl full of shit.

It's very hard form me to find anything good to say about anything from this administration. It's been a catastrophe. It is going to take a new president and staff before I even start looking for marshmallows again.
What the fuck does the administration have to do with this you stupid twat?

Placing a piece of the World Trade Center into a military machine is a simple way of trying to drive home the bridge between the terrorist attack and the reason we're at war. A more accurate portrayal would be a large painting of Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld across the side. The World Trade Center attack was an excuse, Bush and Co. were the reason.

I also think it would've been better to make body armor for our troops and vehicles out of it instead. What better promo could this administration hope for than a soldier who was saved by a vest that had a piece of the World Trade Center in it? SAVED BY THE BUILDING THE IRAQIS BROUGHT DOWN 911 NEVER FORGET

It's fluff intended to pacify it's already pacified audience like Midnyte.

Spang · Post by **Spang** » July 30, 2008, 4:35 pm

I don't think Bush or his administration had anything to do with this boat.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 30, 2008, 4:50 pm

Where are the lifeboats? Are they the blue things on the back of the ship?

Not being seaman lovers like some of you, I'm not familiar with evacuation procedures on large navy ships these days.

Gzette · Post by **Gzette** » July 30, 2008, 4:51 pm

I do find it somewhat allegorical that the wreckage of 9/11 would be used to create a war machine.

Truant · Post by **Truant** » July 30, 2008, 5:10 pm

Funkmasterr wrote:If you think a Canadians opinions is relevant in deciding if this is a worthy current event or not, your dumber than I ever expected.

"I don't know what the fuck you just said l'il kid..."

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » July 30, 2008, 6:16 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:
The World Trade Center attack was an excuse, Bush and Co. were the reason.

Are you fucking retarded? That attack was planned YEARS before Bush took office. Even the rest of the liberal Bush haters are not this stupid.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 30, 2008, 6:45 pm

I do find it somewhat allegorical that the wreckage of 9/11 would be used to create a war machine.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 30, 2008, 7:24 pm

Nick wrote:
I do find it somewhat allegorical that the wreckage of 9/11 would be used to create a war machine.

What was the point of you just quoting what someone else said? Are you agreeing with them, being swarmy, what?

I also find it to be allegorical.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » July 31, 2008, 3:37 am

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:
Fairweather Pure wrote:
The World Trade Center attack was an excuse, Bush and Co. were the reason.

Are you fucking retarded? That attack was planned YEARS before Bush took office. Even the rest of the liberal Bush haters are not this stupid.

What are you talking about?

Read my statement again. I don't think you understood what I typed.

Keverian FireCry · Post by **Keverian FireCry** » July 31, 2008, 4:16 am

I heard that the Bow Stem is actually an alloy of WTC metals and highly concentrated bullshit.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » July 31, 2008, 3:32 pm

Winnow wrote:Not being seaman lovers like some of you

Winnow lies. He loves teh seaman.

Wulfran · Post by **Wulfran** » July 31, 2008, 4:16 pm

Spang wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I just found out about it. That makes it current. It was made out of steel from the World Trade center. That makes it a CE worthy post. I believe it was christened back in March, yet I don't recall seeing the reports about this on this news. What a monumentous feat. What a great story. But, the media doesn't like covering such patriotic wonderous things like this during a campaign season where it is only important to project how awful things are and that we need a savior to bring us change. That makes it a CE worthy post.
December 28th, 2002
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2611059.stm

August 17th, 2005
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?sect ... chive=true

February 29th, 2008
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/uss-new-york/72115/

February 29th, 2008
http://www.wlox.com/global/story.asp?s=7947806

March 1st, 2008
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,334258,00.html

March 2nd, 2008
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/03 ... _worl.html

Gee no coverage at all... Besides how many fucking boats do you guys float in a year? Hell even we float one or two up in Cannuckistan, so how does this make this more than a local human interest story?

Truant · Post by **Truant** » July 31, 2008, 4:47 pm

Siji wrote:
Winnow wrote:Not being seaman lovers like some of you
Winnow lies. He loves teh seaman.

I found this allegorical.

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 31, 2008, 4:53 pm

Wulfran wrote: so how does this make this more than a local human interest story?

Wow. Just wow.

noel · Post by **noel** » August 5, 2008, 3:23 am

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:The San Antonio class is basically one step up from the Phoenix class. The San Antonio is pretty boring in design and is more of a defenisve class that just gets the job done and stays in service for extended periods. The Phoenix class are a lot flashier and basically have zero defensive mechanisms and just throw pure offense out and hope to survive long enough to win a battle. They also tend to be back in port very early summer and do not come back out until fall.

From someone who spent about a week recently aboard the USS New Orleans (the second San Antonio class ship built), you're wrong.

You don't have to take my word for it. Ask the Marines in their LAVs, LCACs and Osprey's how offensive they are. The San Antonio class are stealth ships. The superstructure is made from composites, not metal. Not sure what's so boring about a stealth ship, but what do I know. They're designed to launch over the horizon strikes on land and they're able to unload ~800 marines in a hurry.

If you're point was that the boat itself has weaponry that's more defensive in nature for ship to ship battles, you'd be correct, but the mission of the ship is to unload a shitload of marines, not to wage a naval battle.

For those interested in more information, Future Weapons season 2 episode 13 features the USS San Antonio (which was a disaster at release btw). Not a lot of information, but some cool pictures and images.

Also for those outside of Naval service from any country; if you ever find yourself in a discussion with anyone from your respective Navy (officers or chiefs especially):

Ship = surface vessel
Boat = submarine

You can thank me later.

Lynks · Post by **Lynks** » August 5, 2008, 3:40 am

What's this all aboat eh?

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » August 5, 2008, 9:10 am

noel wrote:
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:The San Antonio class is basically one step up from the Phoenix class. The San Antonio is pretty boring in design and is more of a defenisve class that just gets the job done and stays in service for extended periods. The Phoenix class are a lot flashier and basically have zero defensive mechanisms and just throw pure offense out and hope to survive long enough to win a battle. They also tend to be back in port very early summer and do not come back out until fall.
From someone who spent about a week recently aboard the USS New Orleans (the second San Antonio class ship built), you're wrong.

You don't have to take my word for it. Ask the Marines in their LAVs, LCACs and Osprey's how offensive they are. The San Antonio class are stealth ships. The superstructure is made from composites, not metal. Not sure what's so boring about a stealth ship, but what do I know. They're designed to launch over the horizon strikes on land and they're able to unload ~800 marines in a hurry.

If you're point was that the boat itself has weaponry that's more defensive in nature for ship to ship battles, you'd be correct, but the mission of the ship is to unload a shitload of marines, not to wage a naval battle.

For those interested in more information, Future Weapons season 2 episode 13 features the USS San Antonio (which was a disaster at release btw). Not a lot of information, but some cool pictures and images.

Also for those outside of Naval service from any country; if you ever find yourself in a discussion with anyone from your respective Navy (officers or chiefs especially):

Ship = surface vessel
Boat = submarine

You can thank me later.

I cannot even believe that I have to explain to you that this was not even remotely factual and was indeed a complete and utter dig at Winnow and the Phoenix Suns.

You saddened me today.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 5, 2008, 9:30 am

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:
noel wrote:
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:The San Antonio class is basically one step up from the Phoenix class. The San Antonio is pretty boring in design and is more of a defenisve class that just gets the job done and stays in service for extended periods. The Phoenix class are a lot flashier and basically have zero defensive mechanisms and just throw pure offense out and hope to survive long enough to win a battle. They also tend to be back in port very early summer and do not come back out until fall.
From someone who spent about a week recently aboard the USS New Orleans (the second San Antonio class ship built), you're wrong.

You don't have to take my word for it. Ask the Marines in their LAVs, LCACs and Osprey's how offensive they are. The San Antonio class are stealth ships. The superstructure is made from composites, not metal. Not sure what's so boring about a stealth ship, but what do I know. They're designed to launch over the horizon strikes on land and they're able to unload ~800 marines in a hurry.

If you're point was that the boat itself has weaponry that's more defensive in nature for ship to ship battles, you'd be correct, but the mission of the ship is to unload a shitload of marines, not to wage a naval battle.

For those interested in more information, Future Weapons season 2 episode 13 features the USS San Antonio (which was a disaster at release btw). Not a lot of information, but some cool pictures and images.

Also for those outside of Naval service from any country; if you ever find yourself in a discussion with anyone from your respective Navy (officers or chiefs especially):

Ship = surface vessel
Boat = submarine

You can thank me later.
I cannot even believe that I have to explain to you that this was not even remotely factual and was indeed a complete and utter dig at Winnow and the Phoenix Suns.

You saddened me today.

I got it...

Fash · Post by **Fash** » August 5, 2008, 10:51 am

Boogahz wrote:
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:
noel wrote:
Kilmoll the Sexy wrote:The San Antonio class is basically one step up from the Phoenix class. The San Antonio is pretty boring in design and is more of a defenisve class that just gets the job done and stays in service for extended periods. The Phoenix class are a lot flashier and basically have zero defensive mechanisms and just throw pure offense out and hope to survive long enough to win a battle. They also tend to be back in port very early summer and do not come back out until fall.
*****Woosh!
I cannot even believe that I have to explain to you that this was not even remotely factual and was indeed a complete and utter dig at Winnow and the Phoenix Suns.
You saddened me today.
I got it...

Wow I missed that one... Nice one, Kilmoll!

noel · Post by **noel** » August 5, 2008, 10:56 am

You might note that I stay the fuck out of this forum 99% of the time.

I wouldn't even have posted had I not spent time on the New Orleans.

That's a lot of effort to make a dig at Winnow though.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » August 5, 2008, 11:24 am

It is easy when you enjoy your work

Post by **Sylvus** » August 5, 2008, 11:28 am

That one went right over my head at first, too. Good work, Kilmoll!

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » August 5, 2008, 1:08 pm

Kilmoll the Sexy wrote: I cannot even believe that I have to explain to you that this was not even remotely factual and was indeed a complete and utter dig at Winnow and the Phoenix Suns.

You saddened me today.

Nice. I didn't catch that one either. Well done!

noel · Post by **noel** » August 5, 2008, 1:18 pm

The funniest part about it was that I was trying to figure out what the fuck the Phoenix class was, but didn't care enough to hit wikipedia last night when I read it.

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » August 5, 2008, 1:40 pm

noel wrote:The funniest part about it was that I was trying to figure out what the fuck the Phoenix class was, but didn't care enough to hit wikipedia last night when I read it.

that was actually what gave it away for me

Spang · Post by **Spang** » August 5, 2008, 2:36 pm

Seeing San Antonio and boring in the same sentence, and then Phoenix and zero defense in the following sentence gave it away for me.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » August 5, 2008, 5:27 pm

Nice! Well played Mr Man'Ranch!