Ribbed for her pleasure?

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » December 20, 2002, 1:01 pm

Is it just me or does the ribbing on condoms do absolutely nothing.

Please edumacate me, if not.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » December 20, 2002, 1:11 pm

In theory it would make sense, but in application it doesn't seem to. What was the last ribbed dildo or vibrator you have ever seen? If they really wanted to make one to help women, it would be one that had a clitoral stimulator, or would have raised bumps all over it, or would add an inch to circumference. Those would be cost prohibitive though.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 20, 2002, 1:16 pm

i dont know back when i used to wear rubbers, my girlfriend and I just kind of settled on the ribbed ones as the ones we liked best, after a rather thorough review of the inventory.

if you think they do nothing for you, be happy you arent the guy. rubbers suck

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » December 20, 2002, 1:21 pm

Condoms help reduce stimulation, but this is a good thing for the same reason why being circumsized can be a good thing: longer sex. Longer sex = more intense orgasms. You guys need to think a little further beyond the immediate sensory effects before bitching about condoms.

And STDs and babies suck a hell of a lot more than rubbers

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 20, 2002, 1:32 pm

some of us can manage to not blow it more than 30 seconds in

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » December 20, 2002, 1:38 pm

Voronwë wrote:some of us can manage to not blow it more than 30 seconds in

Good for you, but it's not about premature ejaculation.

Janx · Post by **Janx** » December 20, 2002, 1:40 pm

"Good for you, but it's not about premature ejaculation."

30 seconds isnt premature for Voronwe..=P

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » December 20, 2002, 1:47 pm

Prolonging sex certianly does not guarantee stonger or more intense orgasams. That is done through mood, setting, and overall level of horniness. Some of my best orgasams have been achieved in a matter of minutes, under highly erotic circumstances with OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of psychological build-up. I'm sure many can also attest to that.

The mind and mood will produce consistantly better orgasams than purposefully desensitizing yourself or your lover.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 20, 2002, 1:47 pm

30 seconds i wish

Ebumar · Post by **Ebumar** » December 20, 2002, 2:03 pm

hah, voron is a one pump chump.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » December 20, 2002, 2:20 pm

Fairweather Pure wrote:Prolonging sex certianly does not guarantee stonger or more intense orgasams. That is done through mood, setting, and overall level of horniness. Some of my best orgasams have been achieved in a matter of minutes, under highly erotic circumstances with OMGIAMRETARDEDCAUSEALOTISTWOWORDS of psychological build-up. I'm sure many can also attest to that.

The mind and mood will produce consistantly better orgasams than purposefully desensitizing yourself or your lover.

First of all, I never use condoms to "purposely" desensitize my lover. I have to use them for birth control because I cannot take the pill. Desensitivization is not a BAD thing, is my point. Men who complain that they have to wear condoms should recognize that it has its advantages. At the very least, they should recognize that wearing a condom does not make for less enjoyable sex.

Prolonging sex may not GUARANTEE stronger or more intense orgasms but sexual studies prove that in most cases, the longer you build the physical tension of arousal, the stronger the orgasm.

"Psychological build-up" as you call it, is not as easy to achieve in a long-term relationship, when both parties have reached an extremely comfortable level...unless they've adopted role-play (which I personally find fake and silly) to recreate this tension. What you call "psychological build-up" often is the manufactured stress of a fantasized power struggle. In extreme cases its manifests as a need to physically act-out power relations like with bondage & S&M. People find this stress (whether it be submission or dominance) arousing psychologically, usually because of some issue they have with control or their childhood.

I've found that most people experience this in the beginning of a relationship because the level of intimacy is non-existant and it is easier to act-out with a "foreign object." Once intimacy is achieved, most people cannot continue to make their mate an "object" of their psychological control fantasies. To recreate that psychological tension, people have to turn to role-play or other sexual activities. Some people cheat. Everyone knows what its like to feel that "rush" of a new sexual relationship. Where do you think it comes from? It comes from our own psychological needs, many of which originate from childhood.

So with that said, psychological tension is almost interchangeable with physical tension, but for most long-term couples it is not something that is as easily manufactured, at least not to the degree where it comes close to physical tension.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 20, 2002, 2:29 pm

Desensitivization is not a BAD thing, is my point. Men who complain that they have to wear condoms should recognize that it has its advantages. At the very least, they should recognize that wearing a condom does not make for less enjoyable sex.

wearing a condom is less enjoyable for me. that is a 100% cold hard fact. that doesnt mean that the sex isnt wonderful. it is just different. I'd much rather wear a condom thouhg than have an unplanned pregnancy, and i'd much rather have sex wearing a condom than beat off by myself

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my wife was off the pill for a couple months because of some other medication she was on, so we had to go back to the low-tech solutions, and there wasnt a major quality of sex-life drop off, but i dont like rubbers, and i never will. they suck

So with that said, psychological tension is almost interchangeable with physical tension, but for most long-term couples it is not something that is as easily manufactured, at least not to the degree where it comes close to physical tension.

i would use the word romance as interchangible for psychological tension in his analogy. i agree with Fairweather's point on this one. like you lalanae, i'm not somebody who really gets into games and such because it seems manufactured and silly to me. just not my personal style, but sex being very personal obviously varies a lot from person to person.

Animalor · Post by **Animalor** » December 20, 2002, 2:31 pm

My gf had to come off the pill a short time ago cause she was starting to have health problems related to long time use so it was back to comdoms again.

Frankly, although I can feel the condom there I really don't find it has lessened the experience at all.

These are the ones I bought I believe and well... wow..

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » December 20, 2002, 2:53 pm

Sexuality itself is a very individualistic and there's certianly no clear road map why people sexually develope the way they do. Discussion is always entertaining, especially with people who think outside the box a bit.

Pretty much everthing we do on a day to day basis is "possibly based upon issues from our childhood." I will definately say there's a huge difference between the opinions and views of those who practice S&M and those who simply study it. As usual, most scientists are guilty of over-simplifying. I personally draw no connection from the two. /shrug

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 20, 2002, 3:03 pm

"At the very least, they should recognize that wearing a condom does not make for less enjoyable sex. "

-Lalanae

It does make it less enjoyable although far from unenjoyable.

Psychological state of mind is a big part of your orgasm. Anyone can have a "maintenance" orgasm to satisfy a need. For the more intense sexual experience you need to use your mind as well as your body.

KilornCloudwalker · Post by **KilornCloudwalker** » December 20, 2002, 3:06 pm

Very big difference, Fair... research and practice always are. I could easily wax on about S&M/BDSM stuff for pages on end, but this isn't the place for it, I am sure:)

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » December 20, 2002, 3:14 pm

Don't get me start Kilorn...

Toshira · Post by **Toshira** » December 20, 2002, 3:20 pm

I often wear 6 or 7 condoms at once and throw in a percocet. Then hump happily for hours.

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » December 20, 2002, 3:23 pm

Winnow wrote:"At the very least, they should recognize that wearing a condom does not make for less enjoyable sex. "

-Lalanae

It does make it less enjoyable although far from unenjoyable.

Psychological state of mind is a big part of your orgasm. Anyone can have a "maintenance" orgasm to satisfy a need. For the more intense sexual experience you need to use your mind as well as your body.

Less enjoyable as far as immediate local stimulation, but we are talking about orgasms.

I also did not imply that you shouldn't use your mind during sex. We were discussing what Fair calls "psychological build-up." Please see above for my explanation and recognize the difference.

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » December 20, 2002, 3:27 pm

There's a very slight difference between ribbed vs. unribbed condoms but not enough to make a huge difference in feeling "down there." The only aspect I like about condoms is that after a nice long session of foreplay, the guy isn't about to spew his load as soon as he gets inside you with a condom on. I dislike condoms greatly though. It just doesn't feel right when you're using your muscles to squeeze and you're gripping slippery rubber rather than skin. I just thank God that I'm married and don't have to wear a rubber at all.

Mmmmmmskin

*edit spelling*

Janx · Post by **Janx** » December 20, 2002, 3:44 pm

Hayley just said she didnt have to wear a rubber...is there something you havent told us?!

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » December 20, 2002, 3:48 pm

Mangina revealed?

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » December 20, 2002, 3:48 pm

LOL oops. Well, when he's wearing one it's almost like you're wearing it too!

You know what I mean!

Lalanae · Post by **Lalanae** » December 20, 2002, 4:17 pm

Thanks Hayley, that's the kind of thing I wanted to know. After hearing a condom commercial making a BIG deal about ribbing, I was curious if anyone but me found it essentially worthless. Maybe condom companies are using it as a selling point for men who don't know it's not effective enough to bother with?

I get irritated when men complain about having to wear a condom, as if it RUINS sex for them. Such babies!

Bakara · Post by **Bakara** » December 20, 2002, 4:25 pm

Less mess
Longer sex
Greatly reduces chance of std's & babies
Make great earrings

There have been times when while wearing one I feel as if I am not wearing one at all, and there have been times when wearing one felt really wierd and awkward but those were probably just user error *g*.

Ribbed condoms make jack shit of differerence to me, and anyone I've ever known that has remarked on it says the same.

Supposedly ship skin is the bomb.

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » December 20, 2002, 4:36 pm

as if it RUINS sex for them

I would rather get the both of us off in thousands of other ways other than have sex with a condom. I consider them that bad. Of course, I always enjoy an excuse to explore alternate means

Millie · Post by **Millie** » December 20, 2002, 4:43 pm

Bakara wrote:Make great earrings.

Good to see I'm not the only one doing this!
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On a side note: ribbing on condoms doesn't seem to do much for "her pleasure," if anything. It's just a sales gimmic. Extra-thin condoms don't really do much for "his pleasure," either -- but they do have the added bonus of being more prone to tearing or failure.

The only condoms that have any effect are those Trojan "extended pleasure" ones. You know, the new ones with the numbing effect, so the Voronwes of the world can go that extra minute or two. Basically, these suckers numb your John Thomas to the point where you can't even feel it anymore. It's like having your leg fall asleep -- only it's your third leg this time. Sure, you can marathon-fuck like a porn star. But as has been mentioned, longer sex does not necessary = better sex. Invest in these condoms if you're a genuine minute man; otherwise, stay the hell away from them.

Here's a better topic for discussion: Peeing after sex. If you don't go right away, you're going to have a nasty split-stream problem on your hands in a couple hours. Solutions?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » December 20, 2002, 4:53 pm

If you don't go right away it sorta looks like that Rammstein stage act when you try to a few hours later.....

Hayley · Post by **Hayley** » December 20, 2002, 4:53 pm

Millie wrote: Here's a better topic for discussion: Peeing after sex. If you don't go right away, you're going to have a nasty split-stream problem on your hands in a couple hours. Solutions?

ROFL....ewwwwwwwww! I never knew this problem existed. Very interesting indeed.

Oh, and I propose no possible solution to this aside from peeing immediately after sex. Other solutions might prove to be painful.

Janx · Post by **Janx** » December 20, 2002, 4:55 pm

This better not lead into talk about sounding devices again =/ Seeing it in irc was bad enough..

Fairweather Pure · Post by **Fairweather Pure** » December 20, 2002, 4:56 pm

Solutions?

Easy, have her suck it afterwards. Don't forget before and during as well.

Gurugurumaki · Post by **Gurugurumaki** » December 20, 2002, 4:57 pm

Jesus Christs peopres, just go anars...and yes I mean one mare and one femares for arl yoo homos TT

Karae · Post by **Karae** » December 20, 2002, 5:02 pm

Perhaps if you could find some form of suction...

Zamtuk · Post by **Zamtuk** » December 20, 2002, 5:03 pm

Yeah, sit down and pee. Girly yes, messy no. I know back in the earlier days that problem would catch me by surprise.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » December 20, 2002, 5:06 pm

Lalanae wrote:
Winnow wrote:"At the very least, they should recognize that wearing a condom does not make for less enjoyable sex. "

-Lalanae

It does make it less enjoyable although far from unenjoyable.

Psychological state of mind is a big part of your orgasm. Anyone can have a "maintenance" orgasm to satisfy a need. For the more intense sexual experience you need to use your mind as well as your body.
Less enjoyable as far as immediate local stimulation, but we are talking about orgasms.

I also did not imply that you shouldn't use your mind during sex. We were discussing what Fair calls "psychological build-up." Please see above for my explanation and recognize the difference.

The less enjoyable comment was for you lalanae. The rest of my comments weren't directed at your initial posts.

Condoms make sex less enjoyable for me...feels unnatural, they are an extra step, oil breaks them within seconds, I notice a difference in feeling.

They're better when it come to the clean up stage : )

I'm not going to argue the STD and pregnancy benefits of condoms as those are obvious. Bottom line is if you didn't need them for those purposes, 99% of men wouldn't wear them.

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » December 20, 2002, 5:07 pm

IMO bring all of your sounding questions to Sean!

Millie · Post by **Millie** » December 20, 2002, 5:10 pm

Most of the time it's just a matter of being a man and excusing yourself to the bathroom afterwards, before things get the chance to dry up. The sucking-afterwards option is fine, assuming your woman isn't the type who screams "hold me!" afterward and demands that you cuddle until she falls asleep or is ready to go again. There's just something about offering your wang for her mouth that ruins the moment.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 20, 2002, 5:50 pm

I think it depends on the girl. I very much prefer ribbed over normal for pure stimulation, but I hate rubbers overall. Fortunately I haven't had to be exposed to one in a couple of years because I've only had one partner.

Ribbed doesn't feel natural though, so I usually just asked for the normal kind.

Kilmoll the Sexy · Post by **Kilmoll the Sexy** » December 20, 2002, 6:09 pm

kyoukan type-R wrote: Fortunately I haven't had to be exposed to one in a couple of years because I've only had one partner.

now THERE is a real shocker.

Bakara : sheep skin is definitely the shit for feeling like you are not wearing anything. The down side is two things....one, it does very little to protect against STDs. The other is that the smell from the lubricant they use on the sheep skin ones is attrocious. That was really the number one thing that stopped me from using them.

The solution to the split stream in the morning is easy. First thing I always do is check mister purple for any obvious damage. Then you just make sure to pull apart the opening a bit and voila! A single stream!

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 20, 2002, 6:15 pm

Yeah I was thinking of making a disclaimer to say that I meant one partner meaning only one guy who I'm engaged to, and not one guy and one only once in the last couple of years. I knew the next post under mine would be either you or kylere excercising your limited wit by construing it otherwise, but I wanted to see what you would come up with.

Still even I have had sex once in the last couple of years, or even kissed a member of the opposite sex, I would still be way ahead of you, so I don't know what exactly you are making fun of.

jentaii · Post by **jentaii** » December 20, 2002, 7:04 pm

lol @ sounding! that was one of the most fucked up irc convos i've inspired yet! and all those scary medical "toys"..

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