More proof...

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » July 7, 2006, 1:42 am

That GWB is a complete moron...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/06/ ... index.html

When it comes to the most controversial single decision of his presidency -- invading Iraq -- the president told King he would make the same choice again, even knowing that Saddam Hussein's regime did not have weapons of mass destruction.

"We removed a tyrant," Bush said. "He was an enemy of the United States who harbored terrorists and who had the capacity, at the very minimum, to make weapons of mass destruction. And he was a true threat."

These statements alone prove that...

Marb

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 7, 2006, 11:52 am

huh.

Those comments are one of the few things I think he's done right as a bumbling goober of a president.

To each his own.

noel · Post by **noel** » July 7, 2006, 11:58 am

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:huh.

Those comments are one of the few things I think he's done right as a bumbling goober of a president.

To each his own.

You voted for him.... GRATS!

Midnyte_Ragebringer · Post by **Midnyte_Ragebringer** » July 7, 2006, 12:45 pm

noel wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:huh.

Those comments are one of the few things I think he's done right as a bumbling goober of a president.

To each his own.
You voted for him.... GRATS!

Yup, sure did and I'd do it again. When given the choice of conservative religious dumb guy versus liberal, no stance taking, spineless lurch-lookin scumbag....I'll take Bush. Maybe next time we will have better options.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » July 7, 2006, 12:53 pm

Sigh...

It amazes me that people can't put 2 and 2 together sometimes...

First of all, he was not a threat (strike 1), secondly he could not make WMD nor did he have them (strike 2) and thirdly it was none of our freakin' business to "remove a tyrant" it's not our job to police the world (strike 3).

So not only is that whole statement of his ridiculas, yet some people will read it and think "uh-uh good jarb W, I is proud a joo." is that THOUSANDs of Americans and TENS of thousands of Iraqs have died because of his decision and disire so some ego trip that was NOT necessary.

Marb

noel · Post by **noel** » July 7, 2006, 1:26 pm

What the fuck does a guy's appearance have to do with the job he's capable of doing?

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » July 7, 2006, 2:00 pm

stupid neocon claiming to not be a neocon makes a stupid neocon post news at 11

noel · Post by **noel** » July 7, 2006, 2:25 pm

I'll take a guy who may or may not have been indecisive over a guy who decided to flush our world reputation down the toilet and make an entire region of the world completely offlimits for the forseeable future to any Americans not part of a platoon of marines...

I'm not going to argue that Kerry is better because there's no way of knowing that, and it would be pointless to argue it. I just have a hard time imagining anyone doing a worse job than Bush has done.

Neost · Post by **Neost** » July 7, 2006, 2:58 pm

GWB is a GOD amongst mortals, history shall prove him to be the greatest president in our storied history.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » July 7, 2006, 4:53 pm

Well Neo you have part of that right, he thinks he's a god... that's part of the problem.

Marb

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 7, 2006, 4:58 pm

omg wiretapping you now you threat to national security marbus commie.

Edit: Question to Midnyte - Given the increased danger the US is now in after it's illegal war, the hundred thousand BARE minimum Iraqi fatalities, the isolation from the world community you have put yourself, the fact that iraq is in an absolutely worse state of affairs beyond anything your country expected, there are now more people committing evil acts in Iraq than before Saddam, there isn't even popular support for the war in the US, there were no wmds, the whole basis for war was a lie, human rights abuses in abu ghraib, etc etc etc how in fucks name do you think it was better to go into Iraq, than say...catprue the men responsible for 9'11?

If you come back with that retarded "OMG HE WAS A TYRANT" - then I ask why you aren't invading North korea right this minute, you know...because if that's your reason...you'd be a massive fucking hypocrite?

Neost · Post by **Neost** » July 7, 2006, 5:05 pm

kim il jong is GWB's penis puppet.

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » July 7, 2006, 8:04 pm

Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:
noel wrote:
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:huh.

Those comments are one of the few things I think he's done right as a bumbling goober of a president.

To each his own.
You voted for him.... GRATS!
Yup, sure did and I'd do it again. When given the choice of conservative religious dumb guy versus liberal, no stance taking, spineless lurch-lookin scumbag....I'll take Bush. Maybe next time we will have better options.

LMFAO. I guess actually serving your country in a fucking war and EARNING several medals of honor is more spineless than dodging one war completely and starting another from behind a fucking desk. Either that, or you are so unbelievably fucking stupid that you will gladly and ignorantly consume whatever propaganda this administration will expose you to.

You can make valid criticisms against Kerry, but if you actually believe that Kerry is more of a coward than the fucking puppet/monkey currently in the oval office you are more ignorant, deluded, moronic, and hypocritical than I could have imagined possible. Admitting you were completely duped into making the wrong decision is much harder than justifying that decision with this inane bullshit, but then again it is exactly that sort of mentality that you identify with and voted for, the mentality of a fucking caitiff. Birds of a feather...

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 7, 2006, 8:19 pm

Xyun wrote: LMFAO. I guess actually serving your country in a fucking war and EARNING several medals of honor is more spineless than dodging one war completely and starting another from behind a fucking desk. Either that, or you are so unbelievably fucking stupid that you will gladly and ignorantly consume whatever propaganda this administration will expose you to.

/blink

I surely hope you aren't insinuating that Kerry even earned 1 MoH. Can I laugh at you now if you are?

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » July 7, 2006, 8:54 pm

My bad, I'm not privy to all the different military medals. I was referring to his 3 purple hearts, bronze and silver stars. But you can laugh at me all you want, I've been laughing at you for years.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » July 7, 2006, 8:58 pm

Now is the time Aruman compares Kerry's medals with the campfire badge he got in boy scouts.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » July 7, 2006, 8:59 pm

Xyun wrote:My bad, I'm not privy to all the different military medals. I was referring to his 3 purple hearts, bronze and silver stars.

Not only is he a war hero, he's a yellow moon and a green clover away from being a box of Lucky Charms.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 7, 2006, 9:05 pm

Xyun wrote:My bad, I'm not privy to all the different military medals. I was referring to his 3 purple hearts, bronze and silver stars. But you can laugh at me all you want, I've been laughing at you for years.

Oh, you mean those medals they give out like candy to babies during any war. If he had any of those with a V device, then I might be somewhat appreciative, but I don't really care enough about Kerry to even bother to find out.

As far as his Purple Hearts go... all you need to 'qualify' is to be wounded by enemy fire. Yes, even a boo boo that mommy kisses to make better. There are stories of how he 'earned' those too.

As far as laughing at me goes, who cares... but at least I know that some lame politician didn't get awarded a MoH.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » July 7, 2006, 9:37 pm

Right or wrong GWB is going to get a lot of pages in the history books and Clinton will get the blame for positioning the electorate to choose Bush over Gore. Kerry won't even get a paragraph- even I could have beaten Kerry.

I personally think GWB has done the right thing. Only time will tell. But I suspect a lot of you will be telling your grand children make-believe stories about how you were Bush patriots back in the day.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 7, 2006, 9:45 pm

Yeah history is going to just disregard the fact Bush stole the election in what was easily the most farcically corrupt election in modern times.

It's all Clinton's fault Americans were stupid enough to vote for the neocon ultra deluded christian right warmongerers

Take some fucking responsibility you shithead.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » July 7, 2006, 11:34 pm

History will certainly remember a half trillion dollar (or 6% of the total national debt) invasion to remove a 2 bit dictator with no weapons of mass destruction. Debacles get remembered.

Vaemas · Post by **Vaemas** » July 7, 2006, 11:49 pm

History is written by the victors. Trite, but true.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » July 8, 2006, 12:56 am

Nick wrote:how in fucks name do you think it was better to go into Iraq, than say...catprue the men responsible for 9'11?

You DO of course know that the CIA division specifically responsible for hunting for Bin Laden was recently disbanded correct? I knew I should have posted the article here.. but yeah, it's true.

Incoming Metanis & Midnyte posts saying how it's for the better good in..

5..
4..
3..
2..
1..

And while talking down about the 'candy' medals that Kerry got.. how do they compare to the ones Bush has? Which ones you ask? Exactly. The closest thing Bush has to a collection of medals would be his old office door name plates from the various companies that he ran into the ground. But hey, I bet they have gold lettering and a nice bold font.

And remember, if I ask you to vote on a bill that says your trash is to be picked up in a timely manner from your house, and you agree to it, then I later add on to that bill that I can come over and fuck your wife and daughter anytime I want before it goes to final vote.. don't change your yes vote! You'll be as wishy washy as Kerry!

Fucking Fox news lemmings. You never cease to disappoint.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » July 8, 2006, 2:31 am

Pherr the Dorf wrote:History will certainly remember a half trillion dollar (or 6% of the total national debt) invasion to remove a 2 bit dictator with no weapons of mass destruction. Debacles get remembered.

What if Iraq were merely a red herring?

GWB has taken on radical Islam. He's flushing the cockroaches out into the open where they can be stomped. He's drawn the worlds attention to a problem that could have blown up into WW3. I think he has defused a situtation that could have been hugely worse than the current pissing match. Yeah, there's a lot of bad press against him but it's been proven time and time again the press is just as shortsighted as the average moron on the street.

Hate him or love him, GWB is a President of consequence. I can't help but compare him to pantywaists like Clinton and Carter and say a prayer of relief.

You go back to Carter and the way he handled the Embassy takeover. That was an overt act of war. Carter was entirely within his rights to smoke Tehran and sweep up the dust. Instead he handled it like a pussy. And the Middle Eastern radicals have been walking all over us ever since. In the meantime there have been huge numbers of deaths that might have been prevented by the USA standing up to the aggression.

And all the blame America firsters can kiss my ass because they have no thought for the historical context of that era. There was going to be power projected to counter communisim and that's a fact of life.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » July 8, 2006, 4:42 am

Metanis wrote: GWB has taken on radical Islam. He's flushing the cockroaches out into the open where they can be stomped. He's drawn the worlds attention to a problem that could have blown up into WW3. I think he has defused a situtation that could have been hugely worse than the current pissing match. Yeah, there's a lot of bad press against him but it's been proven time and time again the press is just as shortsighted as the average moron on the street.

Hate him or love him, GWB is a President of consequence. I can't help but compare him to pantywaists like Clinton and Carter and say a prayer of relief.

Yeah, just not the consequence you think. Fucking slack-jawed yokel.

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 8, 2006, 4:49 am

GWB has taken on radical Islam.

To what end? To 'take on' a differing religious assfoolery is only declaring oneself as a member of an opposing assfoolery. It is assfoolery all around.

And he really isn't taking anything on. He has no stake, aside from his redneck fans, of which I will go ahead and make the assumption that you are a part of.

Winnow · Post by **Winnow** » July 8, 2006, 4:57 am

We were indeed pussified under Carter. Reagan merely had to take office to get the hostages released.

You need to beat some ass once in awhile if you carry a big stick otherwise it's waste. Since when has diplomacy ever worked? Pax Romana? They conqured before peace had a chance to flourish. We need to beat some more ass to give peace a chance!

I like the Japanese, but we had to beat some ass before we could really be friends!

British? Beat their ass!

Germans? Cool people, but needed several ass beatings!

It's time to put the mother of all smackdowns on the Middle East in the name of peace.

All weeeee are saaaaaying, is you need to beat some ass to give peace a chaaaance.

Niffoni · Post by **Niffoni** » July 8, 2006, 5:30 am

Metanis wrote:the blame America firsters

Oh man!! If he says "out-of-touch coasters" or "Taxachusetts" before page 2, I totally win at Reductionist Pundit Jingoistic Catch-Phrase Bingo!

I approve of this thread.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » July 8, 2006, 6:12 am

are you accusing metanis of being unable to form his own opinions and totally relying on right wing talking heads and bloggers who are pissed off because they can't figure out who's ass they need to kiss to get rich in order to tell him how to think?

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 8, 2006, 7:19 am

Siji wrote:
Nick wrote: And while talking down about the 'candy' medals that Kerry got.. how do they compare to the ones Bush has? Which ones you ask? Exactly. The closest thing Bush has to a collection of medals would be his old office door name plates from the various companies that he ran into the ground. But hey, I bet they have gold lettering and a nice bold font.

Too bad the whole issue wasn't about President Bush, it was false claims about how *snicker* GREAT Kerry was because of his medals.

Besides, who is in the Oval office. Apparently people value more than a few ribbons on a uniform (rightly so) .

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 8, 2006, 7:44 am

Despite that quote being misrepresented it's a bit sad you feel the need to dishonour a man who has fought for your country just because your so politically brainwashed.

Kelshara · Post by **Kelshara** » July 8, 2006, 9:34 am

Nick wrote:Despite that quote being misrepresented it's a bit sad you feel the need to dishonour a man who has fought for your country just because your so politically brainwashed.

Heh are you surprised Aruman is un-American and unpatriotic?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 8, 2006, 10:21 am

No i'm just going through the motions at this point

Xyun · Post by **Xyun** » July 8, 2006, 10:40 am

Aruman wrote:
Xyun wrote:My bad, I'm not privy to all the different military medals. I was referring to his 3 purple hearts, bronze and silver stars. But you can laugh at me all you want, I've been laughing at you for years.
Oh, you mean those medals they give out like candy to babies during any war. If he had any of those with a V device, then I might be somewhat appreciative, but I don't really care enough about Kerry to even bother to find out.

As far as his Purple Hearts go... all you need to 'qualify' is to be wounded by enemy fire. Yes, even a boo boo that mommy kisses to make better. There are stories of how he 'earned' those too.

As far as laughing at me goes, who cares... but at least I know that some lame politician didn't get awarded a MoH.

I guess I should be just like you and, instead of looking something up, make retarded absurd insinuations about the VETERANS and SOLDIERS of this country who've had to dodge bullets so that I could have the right to spew feces from my mouth. When it comes down to it, I'm sure that the official Navy records and investigations are false and what this administration says is true, because as we all know, the military is so prone to lying and this administration is so privy to telling the truth.

Luckily, I have the capacity to look at certain facts and come to a decision using the uniquely human faculty of reason. I find it utterly fucking pathetic that your God gave you the ability to reason and the gift of free choice and you so eagerly extrude them in the name of, ironically, your God. When I think about that fact I burst into uncontrollable laughter. I don't understand or care why you choose to debase yourself, it is when you debase the quest for truth, the protectors of your freedom, and the history and future of your own fucking country that offends me.

Ockam's razor has become dull and rusty...

Hoarmurath · Post by **Hoarmurath** » July 8, 2006, 12:45 pm

Siji wrote:You DO of course know that the CIA division specifically responsible for hunting for Bin Laden was recently disbanded correct?

If you are trying to imply that we've stopped looking for bin Laden, then you're retarded. Try to read something besides the headline next time.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » July 8, 2006, 3:41 pm

Hoarmurath wrote:
Siji wrote:You DO of course know that the CIA division specifically responsible for hunting for Bin Laden was recently disbanded correct?
If you are trying to imply that we've stopped looking for bin Laden, then you're retarded. Try to read something besides the headline next time.

If your government really wanted to find bin Laden, he'd be in jail in less than a month. It makes more sense to not find him and use him as a villain to justify unilateral military action anywhere in the middle east the bush administration wants.

Metanis · Post by **Metanis** » July 8, 2006, 4:44 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Hoarmurath wrote:
Siji wrote:You DO of course know that the CIA division specifically responsible for hunting for Bin Laden was recently disbanded correct?
If you are trying to imply that we've stopped looking for bin Laden, then you're retarded. Try to read something besides the headline next time.
If your government really wanted to find bin Laden, he'd be in jail in less than a month. It makes more sense to not find him and use him as a villain to justify unilateral military action anywhere in the middle east the bush administration wants.

It's obvious the Iranians have provided shelter.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 8, 2006, 6:18 pm

Evidence?

Boogahz · Post by **Boogahz** » July 8, 2006, 6:40 pm

Nick wrote:Evidence?

It's obvious it came out of his ass. If you want evidence, you can dig through the shit yourself!

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 8, 2006, 6:45 pm

Canelek · Post by **Canelek** » July 8, 2006, 6:53 pm

Metanis wrote:
kyoukan wrote:
Hoarmurath wrote:
Siji wrote:You DO of course know that the CIA division specifically responsible for hunting for Bin Laden was recently disbanded correct?
If you are trying to imply that we've stopped looking for bin Laden, then you're retarded. Try to read something besides the headline next time.
If your government really wanted to find bin Laden, he'd be in jail in less than a month. It makes more sense to not find him and use him as a villain to justify unilateral military action anywhere in the middle east the bush administration wants.
It's obvious the Iranians have provided shelter.

Right. Because the Iranians are Muslims too and naturally they are all evil! Brilliant!

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » July 8, 2006, 7:50 pm

It's not really about the medals and ribbons as much as it is the fact that Kerry served. Where was Bush? Oh yeah right.. Out snorting coke off the ass of a prostitute. Who says drugs don't pay off...

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 8, 2006, 9:29 pm

Xyun wrote: I guess I should be just like you and, instead of looking something up, make retarded absurd insinuations about the VETERANS and SOLDIERS of this country who've had to dodge bullets so that I could have the right to spew feces from my mouth. When it comes down to it, I'm sure that the official Navy records and investigations are false and what this administration says is true, because as we all know, the military is so prone to lying and this administration is so privy to telling the truth.

Luckily, I have the capacity to look at certain facts and come to a decision using the uniquely human faculty of reason. I find it utterly fucking pathetic that your God gave you the ability to reason and the gift of free choice and you so eagerly extrude them in the name of, ironically, your God. When I think about that fact I burst into uncontrollable laughter. I don't understand or care why you choose to debase yourself, it is when you debase the quest for truth, the protectors of your freedom, and the history and future of your own fucking country that offends me.

Ockam's razor has become dull and rusty...

Tell me again where you looked up the fact that Kerry was awarded 2 MoH? Shut up until you use that 'ability to look at facts' that you claim you have. I'm guilty of it (as shown in the thread in General where I was thinking of the wrong city name) but stating that Kerry was awarded 2 MoH is quite a bit more of a blunder than saying the wrong name of a city.

As far as the Veteran's and Soldiers... I am a veteran (served much, much longer than either Kerry or President Bush) and was a soldier who 'dodged bullets', so I feel I have the right to talk however I wish about the military.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 8, 2006, 9:34 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Hoarmurath wrote:
Siji wrote:You DO of course know that the CIA division specifically responsible for hunting for Bin Laden was recently disbanded correct?
If you are trying to imply that we've stopped looking for bin Laden, then you're retarded. Try to read something besides the headline next time.
If your government really wanted to find bin Laden, he'd be in jail in less than a month. It makes more sense to not find him and use him as a villain to justify unilateral military action anywhere in the middle east the bush administration wants.

I think we should shift our attention to Canada instead. Since we can't seem to eliminate our dependence on oil, lets make a land grab for the nearest largest active supply. Then we can leave the Middle East alone.

Can do kyoukan a favor and get rid of a few of the Canadian rednecks that walk around in flannel saying 'Eh' all the time too.

Hesten · Post by **Hesten** » July 8, 2006, 9:34 pm

Aruman wrote:
Xyun wrote:My bad, I'm not privy to all the different military medals. I was referring to his 3 purple hearts, bronze and silver stars. But you can laugh at me all you want, I've been laughing at you for years.
Oh, you mean those medals they give out like candy to babies during any war. If he had any of those with a V device, then I might be somewhat appreciative, but I don't really care enough about Kerry to even bother to find out.

As far as his Purple Hearts go... all you need to 'qualify' is to be wounded by enemy fire. Yes, even a boo boo that mommy kisses to make better. There are stories of how he 'earned' those too.

As far as laughing at me goes, who cares... but at least I know that some lame politician didn't get awarded a MoH.

Well, at least he was IN the war, compared to a certain other idiot who got the easy detail in the national guard, and couldnt even bother to show up there

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 8, 2006, 9:38 pm

Hesten wrote:
Aruman wrote:
Xyun wrote:My bad, I'm not privy to all the different military medals. I was referring to his 3 purple hearts, bronze and silver stars. But you can laugh at me all you want, I've been laughing at you for years.
Oh, you mean those medals they give out like candy to babies during any war. If he had any of those with a V device, then I might be somewhat appreciative, but I don't really care enough about Kerry to even bother to find out.

As far as his Purple Hearts go... all you need to 'qualify' is to be wounded by enemy fire. Yes, even a boo boo that mommy kisses to make better. There are stories of how he 'earned' those too.

As far as laughing at me goes, who cares... but at least I know that some lame politician didn't get awarded a MoH.
Well, at least he was IN the war, compared to a certain other idiot who got the easy detail in the national guard, and couldnt even bother to show up there

You cheer for the draft dodgers in one case, then belittle someone who didn't go the 'legal' way in another case.

You'd fit right in with some known US political figures.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » July 8, 2006, 9:57 pm

Whereas you'd fit perfectly into a mental hospital, or a clan rally or something equally ridiculous.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » July 8, 2006, 10:01 pm

Aruman wrote:I think we should shift our attention to Canada instead. Since we can't seem to eliminate our dependence on oil, lets make a land grab for the nearest largest active supply. Then we can leave the Middle East alone.

Can do kyoukan a favor and get rid of a few of the Canadian rednecks that walk around in flannel saying 'Eh' all the time too.

You fucking simpletons can't even secure half of baghdad and you are bragging about attacking a UN nation? Your complete lack of military experience once again demonstrates how full of shit you are.

Aruman · Post by **Aruman** » July 8, 2006, 10:54 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Aruman wrote:I think we should shift our attention to Canada instead. Since we can't seem to eliminate our dependence on oil, lets make a land grab for the nearest largest active supply. Then we can leave the Middle East alone.

Can do kyoukan a favor and get rid of a few of the Canadian rednecks that walk around in flannel saying 'Eh' all the time too.
You fucking simpletons can't even secure half of baghdad and you are bragging about attacking a UN nation? Your complete lack of military experience once again demonstrates how full of shit you are.

Whhhhhooooooooossshhhhhhh!

Oh, and I'll put my 9 years with an RDF unit up against your armchair general expertise any day.

Marbus · Post by **Marbus** » July 8, 2006, 11:27 pm

Damn Met are you that stupid? Hopefully that was really a joke... because you DO realize that the people in Iran, including their freakin' crazy ass leader (I'm sure we agree on that) fuckin' HATE Bin Laden and his Islamic sect. What the hell do you think half the bombings are about in Iraq right now, girl scout cookies?

If the WH ever even tried to put that one forth I would hope it would be the last act of a dying party and the GOP could be wiped off the political spectrum. However the fact some Americans are so blind to what is going on, that will probably never happen... just goes to show that if you think of how stupid the average person is, remember that half the people are stupider than that... which I guess is why GWB is still President.

Marb