Way to support and defend the constitution...

[Arborealus]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&c ... bassador_8

Bush again shows his contempt for our system of government by using a method designed to act when congress is not in session to bypass significant bipartisan concern for Bolton as Embassador to the UN.

I guess he does enjoy dictatorships when he's the dictator...

[Animale]

It'll probably come back to haunt him. The Senate does not forget stuff like this.

While I don't know enough about Bolton to have a firm opinion, it definitely felt as if he has a few skeletons in his closet that the White House was trying to cover up. We'll see if he can do the job now, though. Hopefully the job he is sent to do is to help the U.N., not destroy it from within.

Animale

[Seebs]

Yawn -

WASHINGTON — President Bush is taking advantage of Congress' vacation and giving John Bolton (search) a recess appointment to be the next U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. What is a recess appointment?

— A recess appointment occurs when the U.S. president fills a vacant federal position during a Congressional recess.

— The appointee stays on the job until the end of the next congressional session, unless the Senate ratifies the appointment thereby allowing the appointee to serve longer.

— Recess appointments are authorized by Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution: "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."

— The recess appointment has been used mostly in recent history to bypass a Senate politically opposed to the nominee.

— The recess appointment power was viewed differently in the nation’s early days. Congress was away from the capital for long periods of time and allowing the president to fill a position quickly became a necessity.

— President George W. Bush appointed several judges to U.S. courts of appeals using recess appointments. One, Judge Charles Pickering (search) of the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, withdrew his name from consideration for renomination when his recess appointment expired.

— President Bill Clinton made a recess appointment of Bill Lan Lee (search) as assistant attorney general for civil rights. Clinton also used the power to name James Hormel (search) as ambassador to Luxembourg.

— In 1961, John F. Kennedy used the recess appointment to gain a seat on the federal bench for Thurgood Marshall (search), who six years later become the first black associate justice on the Supreme Court.

[Kylere]

Yawn -

WASHINGTON — President Bush is taking advantage of Congress' vacation and giving John Bolton (search) a recess appointment to be the next U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. What is a recess appointment?

— A recess appointment occurs when the U.S. president fills a vacant federal position during a Congressional recess.

— The appointee stays on the job until the end of the next congressional session, unless the Senate ratifies the appointment thereby allowing the appointee to serve longer.

— Recess appointments are authorized by Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution: "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."

— The recess appointment has been used mostly in recent history to bypass a Senate politically opposed to the nominee.

— The recess appointment power was viewed differently in the nation’s early days. Congress was away from the capital for long periods of time and allowing the president to fill a position quickly became a necessity.

— President George W. Bush appointed several judges to U.S. courts of appeals using recess appointments. One, Judge Charles Pickering (search) of the Fifth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, withdrew his name from consideration for renomination when his recess appointment expired.

— President Bill Clinton made a recess appointment of Bill Lan Lee (search) as assistant attorney general for civil rights. Clinton also used the power to name James Hormel (search) as ambassador to Luxembourg.

— In 1961, John F. Kennedy used the recess appointment to gain a seat on the federal bench for Thurgood Marshall (search), who six years later become the first black associate justice on the Supreme Court.

The left will never admit anyone other than Bush was wrong on this and the right will never admit they should not be doing it either.

[Dregor Thule]

Oh shiz, Luxembourg.

[Pherr the Dorf]

/yawn

First president to do this was.... Washington...

I despise Bush but this is a big whoopdiedoo appointment to a defunct agency known as the UN

[Arborealus]

— Recess appointments are authorized by Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution: "The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."

And this vacancy "occurred" during a a recess of the senate...Funny they the senate in the last session were discussing the nominee in question...Good to know they are prescient...

[Brotha]

significant bipartisan concern for Bolton as Embassador to the UN.

If there was so much "bipartisan" concern, why wasn't he put up for a vote instead of fillibustered?

And yeah, this is nothing special; many presidents have done this before. Going by your logic, you don't hate "dictators," except when they're named Bush.

Atleast Republicans were willing to put Clinton's nominees up for a vote before he bypassed the Senate.

[Animale]

Umm... Bolton wasn't filibustered. The vote was delayed because he didn't have enough votes yet to even get out of committee.

Come on... if the Repubs had full support for him the Dems wouldn't waste this much time stopping somebody to this kind of post.

Animale

[Brotha]

Umm... Bolton wasn't filibustered. The vote was delayed because he didn't have enough votes yet to even get out of committee.

Umm...yes, he was.

Yes, the committee vote was delayed in April, then in May this:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/12/senate.bolton

The committee didn't recommend or not recommend him, it just sent him up to the Senate.

Then Bolton was filibustered in the Senate- twice (this one was the first).

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/27/polit ... oref=login

Senator Bill Frist, the majority leader, described himself as "very, very disappointed" by what Senator Harry Reid, the top Democrat, conceded was the "first filibuster of the year."

With Republicans holding a solid majority in the Senate, Mr. Bolton still appeared poised to win confirmation if his nomination is put to an up or down vote. But a Republican-led effort to end debate on Mr. Bolton tallied only a 56-to-42 majority, leaving Republicans 4 votes short of the 60 necessary to bring Mr. Bolton's nomination to a final roll call.

[Jice Virago]

There was cock blocking going on in both directions on Bolton. The Dems filibustering the shit out of him and the WH refusing to release requested files to the bipartisan commitee. Both of those situations ultimately resulted in this situation, but the Dem cockblock is the only one that made the Fox talking points. I think its fair to say that a lot of moderate republicans were worried about this guy who has been described by his own party as "a Neocon's Neocon", especially given his vocal history of shit talking the UN. Its a little like appointing Spike Lee the head of PR for the KKK, its not going to be pretty.

I think filibustering him is pointless at this juncture, anyhow. They made Bush put him in the ugly way and if he fucks up at all he won't get ratified down the road anyhow. The real place to pick a fight right now is the Plamegate situation and the DSM. No one gives a fuck who represents us to the UN anyhow, just look at Nigroponte (sp?) and how long he hung in there.

[Arborealus]

Going by your logic, you don't hate "dictators," except when they're named Bush.

Ermmmmm? Do you often just pull assumptions out of your ass?

I'll grant that I hate Bush greatly, but your leap of "logic" here is phenomenal, please point to anything I have ever said that would lead you to that conclusion . Please explain again how sheeps' bladders may be used to prevent earthquakes...

[Brotha]

Ermmmmm? Do you often just pull assumptions out of your ass?

I'll grant that I hate Bush greatly, but your leap of "logic" here is phenomenal, please point to anything I have ever said that would lead you to that conclusion

I guess he does enjoy dictatorships when he's the dictator...

So you call Bush a dictator for using a recess appointment to bypass the Senate and point out how you think it's hypocritical of him to slam dictators when (in your mind) he himself is a dictator.

I see that and I see that many presidents before Bush (some for political reasons) have used recess appointments to bypass the Senate, including President Clinton. Did you ever call Clinton or any of the other presidents dictators or act like the Consitution and freedom as we know it were being destroyed any of those times? True, I'm assuming you didn't, but somehow I really doubt you did. Hence, other "dictators" (people who bypass the Senate) are fine by you, but Bush isn't.

And of course I'm not saying REAL dictators are fine by you, just other "dictators" who have previously been presidents of the US (I used quotes!!).

[Xzion]

bush appointing anyone in this manner shows nothing but a sick abuse of power..."emergency" appointments made when the senate is on vacation are to be made for that purpose alone, the bush admin was also denying the senate information on some of bolton's records. the power of the executive branch imo needs to be downgraded about 500%...just in the bush admin alone many have noticed an unhealthy growth in the power and influence of the executive branch

[Arborealus]

Ermmmmm? Do you often just pull assumptions out of your ass?

I'll grant that I hate Bush greatly, but your leap of "logic" here is phenomenal, please point to anything I have ever said that would lead you to that conclusion

I guess he does enjoy dictatorships when he's the dictator...

So you call Bush a dictator for using a recess appointment to bypass the Senate and point out how you think it's hypocritical of him to slam dictators when (in your mind) he himself is a dictator.

I see that and I see that many presidents before Bush (some for political reasons) have used recess appointments to bypass the Senate, including President Clinton. Did you ever call Clinton or any of the other presidents dictators or act like the Consitution and freedom as we know it were being destroyed any of those times? True, I'm assuming you didn't, but somehow I really doubt you did. Hence, other "dictators" (people who bypass the Senate) are fine by you, but Bush isn't.

And of course I'm not saying REAL dictators are fine by you, just other "dictators" who have previously been presidents of the US (I used quotes!!).

I was playing on Bush statement that a dictatorship would be easier as long as he was the dictator. Its pretty clear he is not a dictator IRL thanks checks and balances (SCOTUS).

And yes I am uniformly against obvious abuse of this law independent of the president involved.

And where in the hell did I say he was hypocritical for slamming other dictators etc etc? Quit pulling things out of your ass and implying they are my words or thoughts you aren't even in the ballpark.

[Xzion]

how the fuck can you have any respect in the un when you pronounce casablanca kays-uh-blank-uh