Prolly just Mexican re-sellers as suggested in the article, but what a different world we live in now after 9/11. Always being on edge about this shit sure is different than before 9/11. Unreal.Theft of Texas Fuel Trucks Raise Fears
Wednesday, June 02, 2004
SAN ANTONIO — Two propane-delivery trucks were stolen from a gas company over the holiday weekend, raising fears of what could happen if terrorists got hold of the explosive fuel.
Police Chief Albert Ortiz said Tuesday that his department does not suspect that terrorism was behind the thefts. But officials said that since Sept. 11, such a possibility cannot be ignored.
"Four years ago, we probably would not be too concerned about this, San Antonio FBI (search) agent Patrick Patterson said Wednesday in a television interview. "It would be a major theft and handled like any other criminal investigation. Because of the nature of the day, we are very, very concerned about the whereabouts of these two trucks."
One of the tankers carried about 3,000 gallons of propane (search), while the other held 2,600 gallons, police said. The trucks were taken from a parking lot owned by Ferrellgas and have the company logo on them.
Another FBI spokesman, Rene Salinas, said the market for propane in Mexico is strong and that the thieves could have been filling an order, mirroring a similar theft about nine months ago. A nationwide alert has been posted and law enforcement officials in Mexico also have been contacted, he said.
"We don't want to alarm anyone," Salinas said. "But we do want people to be on the lookout."
Also under investigation is the weekend theft of 15 gas canisters from an ambulance supply company.
"We think it is just a coincidence at this point," said Ortiz, who appeared at a Tuesday news conference.
He said five of the stolen canisters were empty, but others contained nitrous oxide, carbon dioxide and oxygen.
Patterson said the theft of the canisters was unusual and they could be used for improvised explosive devices.
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Yeah 911 did not really shock me to be honest, I expected something, not that effective of an attack, but I knew it was going to happen eventually.
I feel the same level of concern I felt prior to 911, it is a big bad world, and no amount of hiding under the blankets is going to fix that.
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I don't see why refusing to live fear-free is ignorant. There is no disputing that 9/11 was a horrific tragedy, but to live in constant fear that terrorists might attack at any moment is not the way I want to live.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL. I pity you're ignorance.Kelshara wrote:For those of us who lived in the real world pre-9/11 nothing really changedAnd I will never worry about terrorists, I will never change my life due to them.
Of course I don't want to die, most people don't want to die, but live your life today in a way that you won't be ashamed of tomorrow and if it's your time to go, whether from a steel beam from a construction site or a terrorist with a stolen propane truck, your ghost won't haunt little boys with unfinished business.
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I totally agree. I don't live in constant fear either. But, to walk around and pretend 9/11 didn't happen and to not be more aware of your suuroundings is just foolish in my opinion. Maybe it's just that some people don't fully appreciate what a terrorist attack on our homefront meant/means. Sure, a fuckton of people probably thought it could possibly maybe might happen, but to actually have had it happen and in such grand fashion taking so many lives, was just eye opening.Kindo wrote:I don't see why refusing to live fear-free is ignorant. There is no disputing that 9/11 was a horrific tragedy, but to live in constant fear that terrorists might attack at any moment is not the way I want to live.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL. I pity you're ignorance.Kelshara wrote:For those of us who lived in the real world pre-9/11 nothing really changedAnd I will never worry about terrorists, I will never change my life due to them.
Of course I don't want to die, most people don't want to die, but live your life today in a way that you won't be ashamed of tomorrow and if it's your time to go, whether from a steel beam from a construction site or a terrorist with a stolen propane truck, your ghost won't haunt little boys with unfinished business.
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WTF said they walk around pretending 9/11 didn't happen? They only comment that was made is that they wont let it change their life. How the fuck you get anything else out of that is beyond me.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:I totally agree. I don't live in constant fear either. But, to walk around and pretend 9/11 didn't happen and to not be more aware of your suuroundings is just foolish in my opinion. Maybe it's just that some people don't fully appreciate what a terrorist attack on our homefront meant/means. Sure, a fuckton of people probably thought it could possibly maybe might happen, but to actually have had it happen and in such grand fashion taking so many lives, was just eye opening.Kindo wrote:I don't see why refusing to live fear-free is ignorant. There is no disputing that 9/11 was a horrific tragedy, but to live in constant fear that terrorists might attack at any moment is not the way I want to live.Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL. I pity you're ignorance.Kelshara wrote:For those of us who lived in the real world pre-9/11 nothing really changedAnd I will never worry about terrorists, I will never change my life due to them.
Of course I don't want to die, most people don't want to die, but live your life today in a way that you won't be ashamed of tomorrow and if it's your time to go, whether from a steel beam from a construction site or a terrorist with a stolen propane truck, your ghost won't haunt little boys with unfinished business.
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You owed me one for the STFU Cup of Joe picture!Toshira wrote:WTF, I catch your Fletch reference and you derail my mockery of his l33t englush skillz. Some gratitude.Winnow wrote:...need lots of WindexToshira wrote:Those who live in glass houses...Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:LOL. I pity you're ignorance.
Remember: This is Midnyte we are talking about. The radical who cowers in his small town and refuses to go anywhere near where an attack might happen!
Me living in ignorance? I think not. However, I fly just as much as I used to. I visit the same places as I used to. I do the same things as I used to. 9/11 changed nothing for me, I went to Spain several times even though they had terrorist attacks happening. I went to England and Ireland and ignore IRA. I went to Greece during their tense period with Cyprus (was quite interesting to walk in between machine gun nests complete with sandbags and everything inside the airport terminal). You see, some of us were not ignorant enough about the world to believe it would never happen near us. We just choose to live life and not give the terrorists the satisfaction of changing how we live it. Because the second you do, they have won.
So grats Midnyte on awarding terrorists with their victory. I am sure your buddy Dubya is proud! Oh wait, he helped..
Me living in ignorance? I think not. However, I fly just as much as I used to. I visit the same places as I used to. I do the same things as I used to. 9/11 changed nothing for me, I went to Spain several times even though they had terrorist attacks happening. I went to England and Ireland and ignore IRA. I went to Greece during their tense period with Cyprus (was quite interesting to walk in between machine gun nests complete with sandbags and everything inside the airport terminal). You see, some of us were not ignorant enough about the world to believe it would never happen near us. We just choose to live life and not give the terrorists the satisfaction of changing how we live it. Because the second you do, they have won.
So grats Midnyte on awarding terrorists with their victory. I am sure your buddy Dubya is proud! Oh wait, he helped..
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I am flying on the 4th of july, one of the prime targets, I gave no second thought to flying that day, but it has since been mentioned to me that I am crazy (hey it was a cheaper fare dammit!), I would never ever change my life out of fear, if I do, they are winning, if I live my life the way I have always lived my life, then I dare say it's in the hands of a higher power then UBL or George Bush
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Very, very true, i never think twice of flying someplace regardless of the day, time, or place.Kelshara wrote:Remember: This is Midnyte we are talking about. The radical who cowers in his small town and refuses to go anywhere near where an attack might happen!
Me living in ignorance? I think not. However, I fly just as much as I used to. I visit the same places as I used to. I do the same things as I used to. 9/11 changed nothing for me, I went to Spain several times even though they had terrorist attacks happening. I went to England and Ireland and ignore IRA. I went to Greece during their tense period with Cyprus (was quite interesting to walk in between machine gun nests complete with sandbags and everything inside the airport terminal). You see, some of us were not ignorant enough about the world to believe it would never happen near us. We just choose to live life and not give the terrorists the satisfaction of changing how we live it. Because the second you do, they have won.
So grats Midnyte on awarding terrorists with their victory. I am sure your buddy Dubya is proud! Oh wait, he helped..
The second we chance our lives in the name of fear, the terrorist have won. The second our government takes away our freedoms via patriot act in the name of a highened level of national security, the terrorist have one, fuck, THE TERRORIST are winning, becouse of the people running this country and those living in fear, cowering to those in power.
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I had a chuckle at Ashcroft pressing the panic button a few days ago. The
response from the Department of Homeland Security was funny. Good old John doing his part to keep the population scared.
The most troubling thing for me is another terrorist attack on the US would pretty much guarantee a Bush win. Conspiracy theory stuff indeed but having the motivation exist at all is scary.

The most troubling thing for me is another terrorist attack on the US would pretty much guarantee a Bush win. Conspiracy theory stuff indeed but having the motivation exist at all is scary.
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Nice comeback when you know you got absolutely zero arguments to come up with. I would rather say the pathetic one is the guy cowering in fear in Nowhere, Hickville chanting to kill the evil Muslims!Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You guys are pathetic.
And have no fear Forthe.. I am sure they will capture good ol' bin Laden about a month before the election.
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Something will happen before election time. If not, Bush will lose. His administration knows this. Something will happen. And I'll not be the least bit surprised if it's full of more lies and deceipt.. that will of course not be known or cleared up until after the election is over.Forthe wrote:The most troubling thing for me is another terrorist attack on the US would pretty much guarantee a Bush win. Conspiracy theory stuff indeed but having the motivation exist at all is scary.
The most surprising thing to me is that nobody has tried to assassinate the idiot yet. There wouldn't be much sleep lost over the incident.
I've mentioned this a few times over the past 3 or 4 months. If it happens, I certainly hope it's terrorists trying to upset the election process as opposed to our own people trying to influence the elections.Forthe wrote:
The most troubling thing for me is another terrorist attack on the US would pretty much guarantee a Bush win. Conspiracy theory stuff indeed but having the motivation exist at all is scary.
It's a conspiracy theory for sure but I don't take anything for face value these days.
My psychic vibes give me the feeling Las Vegas will be hit this time...lots of people, big vacation spot...great for terrorizing the country.
I lived in the real world Pre 9/11 and still do so post. 5 children from the grammar school my children went to lost thier parents, all of them happened to have been with me in the aftschool program I run. This was 5 children from 3 families from a small school of 250 students. One set of girls had an aunt move from India to care for them right after. Another boy stayed with us for a year until his mother moved, his father had been a fire fighter. We still have 2 girls with us who lost thier mother and help them deal with thier pain daily.
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"For those of us who lived in the real world pre-9/11 nothing really changed And I will never worry about terrorists, I will never change my life due to them. "
Well, I can tell you it has changed my life and those of many people I know here in NYC. Should I go downtown with my children? I know this runs through the minds of many parents I know. Am I afraid, yes. I am glad you aren't, but try living here, then talk about changing your life.
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"For those of us who lived in the real world pre-9/11 nothing really changed And I will never worry about terrorists, I will never change my life due to them. "
Well, I can tell you it has changed my life and those of many people I know here in NYC. Should I go downtown with my children? I know this runs through the minds of many parents I know. Am I afraid, yes. I am glad you aren't, but try living here, then talk about changing your life.
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Better watch out what you say Siji! Talking about assassinate and the president might end up getting you a knock on your door soon. Seriously though, it would be REALLY hard to assassinate Bush I think. Wherever he goes he is constantly surrounded by people ready to take a bullet for him, plus they are constantly searching everywhere miles around him, and any time he makes any sort of speech or is in any place that might put anyone in a position to try it, there are sharpshooters watching every angle ready to fire at a moments notice.Siji wrote:Something will happen before election time. If not, Bush will lose. His administration knows this. Something will happen. And I'll not be the least bit surprised if it's full of more lies and deceipt.. that will of course not be known or cleared up until after the election is over.Forthe wrote:The most troubling thing for me is another terrorist attack on the US would pretty much guarantee a Bush win. Conspiracy theory stuff indeed but having the motivation exist at all is scary.
The most surprising thing to me is that nobody has tried to assassinate the idiot yet. There wouldn't be much sleep lost over the incident.
Of course, if somehow one of those same sharpshooters snapped or someone close to him goes nuts, it could happen.
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shocked the fuck out of me getting a phone call from my best bud to look out my window...and lo and behold i see one of the wtc twin towers and a cloud of smoke near it...then minutes later watch the other crash to the ground...was pretty fucking shocking being woken up to thatKylere wrote:Yeah 911 did not really shock me to be honest, I expected something, not that effective of an attack, but I knew it was going to happen eventually.
I feel the same level of concern I felt prior to 911, it is a big bad world, and no amount of hiding under the blankets is going to fix that.
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This is why you are pathetic. The way you put words into peoples mouths. I never said I cower in fear. I said I am more alert and aware now. It's an intelligent response.Kelshara wrote:Nice comeback when you know you got absolutely zero arguments to come up with. I would rather say the pathetic one is the guy cowering in fear in Nowhere, Hickville chanting to kill the evil Muslims!Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote:You guys are pathetic.
And have no fear Forthe.. I am sure they will capture good ol' bin Laden about a month before the election.
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There would be a lot of sleep lost in my house if such a thing happened. No matter who was president. You have no respect.Siji wrote:Something will happen before election time. If not, Bush will lose. His administration knows this. Something will happen. And I'll not be the least bit surprised if it's full of more lies and deceipt.. that will of course not be known or cleared up until after the election is over.Forthe wrote:The most troubling thing for me is another terrorist attack on the US would pretty much guarantee a Bush win. Conspiracy theory stuff indeed but having the motivation exist at all is scary.
The most surprising thing to me is that nobody has tried to assassinate the idiot yet. There wouldn't be much sleep lost over the incident.
But hey, not every one can. As long as we have enough intelligent, thoughtful, caring people to win on Novomber 3rd, who gives a fuck how many ignorant, disrespectful, unappreciative, unpatriotic assholes there are.

I spend significant amounts of time in New York and it never crosses my mind to worry about it. 2 good friends of mine live there, both of them should have been in WTC at the time of the hit but neither were (one overslept, one had a bad feeling and skipped the early morning meeting). I am no more worried about living in NYC than I would be about going to Athens this summer.Am I afraid, yes. I am glad you aren't, but try living here, then talk about changing your life.
Yeah! Have to watch out if a towelhead sits next to you on a plane! Oh wait, you were the one who talked about not going to big cities, flying etc..This is why you are pathetic. The way you put words into peoples mouths. I never said I cower in fear. I said I am more alert and aware now. It's an intelligent response.
You are right, hopefully Kerry will win so facist un-patriotic idiots like yourself will be sent packing.But hey, not every one can. As long as we have enough intelligent, thoughtful, caring people to win on Novomber 3rd, who gives a fuck how many ignorant, disrespectful, unappreciative, unpatriotic assholes there are.
Midnyte_Ragebringer wrote: As long as we have enough intelligent, thoughtful, caring people to win on Novomber 3rd, who gives a fuck how many ignorant, disrespectful, unappreciative, unpatriotic assholes there are.

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hell yeah! enough intellegent caring and thoughtful people to re elect dubyah so we can go up n' blow the shit outa em evil godhatin sandniggers out in syria, iran and anywhere else dem camel jockey pagan un americun aysholes are hidin atMidnyte_Ragebringer wrote:There would be a lot of sleep lost in my house if such a thing happened. No matter who was president. You have no respect.Siji wrote:Something will happen before election time. If not, Bush will lose. His administration knows this. Something will happen. And I'll not be the least bit surprised if it's full of more lies and deceipt.. that will of course not be known or cleared up until after the election is over.Forthe wrote:The most troubling thing for me is another terrorist attack on the US would pretty much guarantee a Bush win. Conspiracy theory stuff indeed but having the motivation exist at all is scary.
The most surprising thing to me is that nobody has tried to assassinate the idiot yet. There wouldn't be much sleep lost over the incident.
But hey, not every one can. As long as we have enough intelligent, thoughtful, caring people to win on Novomber 3rd, who gives a fuck how many ignorant, disrespectful, unappreciative, unpatriotic assholes there are.
cus after we get rid of em godamn liberal voters dubyah gowna go say ow november fourth that they next in line to get there shit blown the fuck out of YEEEEHAWWWWWWW!!!!!
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Wow, someone actually flamed Kindolina? That's like kicking a kitten. I suppose you're sore because she wasn't impressed with your behaviour and let you know it.Atokal wrote:Great advice too bad you are unable to follow it.Kindo wrote:but live your life today in a way that you won't be ashamed of tomorrow![]()
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Dregor Thule wrote:Wow, someone actually flamed Kindolina? That's like kicking a kitten. I suppose you're sore because she wasn't impressed with your behaviour and let you know it.Atokal wrote:Great advice too bad you are unable to follow it.Kindo wrote:but live your life today in a way that you won't be ashamed of tomorrow![]()
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Maybe a quick trip to "Rent-A-Clue" is in order, You have no fucking idea what he is talking about. So kindly crawl back into the sewer you came out of.
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I second your 'What the fuck' and would like to add a 'What the hell?' and a 'Huh?'Psyloche wrote:What the fuck was that?Atokal wrote:Great advice too bad you are unable to follow it.Kindo wrote:but live your life today in a way that you won't be ashamed of tomorrow![]()
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Enlighten me then. I clearly said I supposed it, so what was wrong with my statement. It's not like I said it was a fact.Cartalas wrote:Dregor Thule wrote:Wow, someone actually flamed Kindolina? That's like kicking a kitten. I suppose you're sore because she wasn't impressed with your behaviour and let you know it.Atokal wrote:Great advice too bad you are unable to follow it.Kindo wrote:but live your life today in a way that you won't be ashamed of tomorrow![]()
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Maybe a quick trip to "Rent-A-Clue" is in order, You have no fucking idea what he is talking about. So kindly crawl back into the sewer you came out of.
Toker Shame on you
Dregor Thule wrote:Enlighten me then. I clearly said I supposed it, so what was wrong with my statement. It's not like I said it was a fact.Cartalas wrote:Dregor Thule wrote:Wow, someone actually flamed Kindolina? That's like kicking a kitten. I suppose you're sore because she wasn't impressed with your behaviour and let you know it.Atokal wrote:Great advice too bad you are unable to follow it.Kindo wrote:but live your life today in a way that you won't be ashamed of tomorrow![]()
Cheers your friend Toker
Maybe a quick trip to "Rent-A-Clue" is in order, You have no fucking idea what he is talking about. So kindly crawl back into the sewer you came out of.
Toker Shame on you
It is not my place to enlighten you just kindly back away from the topic.
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You wouldn't know the first thing about discussing like an adult. Let's take a look at this thread alone:
LOL. I pity you're ignorance.
You guys are pathetic.
You're right, if that is debating like an adult I wouldn't want to know anything about it. And btw, you can't deny the fact that you talked about how you were so glad you lived in a small place and would not go to big cities, because I remember laughing my ass off at you.As long as we have enough intelligent, thoughtful, caring people to win on Novomber 3rd, who gives a fuck how many ignorant, disrespectful, unappreciative, unpatriotic assholes there are.
Kelshara wrote:You wouldn't know the first thing about discussing like an adult. Let's take a look at this thread alone:
LOL. I pity you're ignorance.You guys are pathetic.You're right, if that is debating like an adult I wouldn't want to know anything about it. And btw, you can't deny the fact that you talked about how you were so glad you lived in a small place and would not go to big cities, because I remember laughing my ass off at you.As long as we have enough intelligent, thoughtful, caring people to win on Novomber 3rd, who gives a fuck how many ignorant, disrespectful, unappreciative, unpatriotic assholes there are.
And what is wrong with living in a small town? Some people dont like large cities, I for one have lived in a lot of large cities and prefer the small town life. Of course you wouldnt pricks like you stick out like a sore thumb so city life fits you well, you can blend in that way.