I heard they were banning people for that exploit in Tactics

miir · Post by **miir** » January 17, 2004, 2:11 pm

Does that mean Fiends will be recruiting?

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » January 17, 2004, 2:16 pm

miir wrote:Does that mean Fiends will be recruiting?

Which one would that be?

Iedok65 · Post by **Iedok65** » January 17, 2004, 2:20 pm

what happened in Potacs?

Kasaz · Post by **Kasaz** » January 17, 2004, 2:56 pm

Saw it last night going on. I think the like charmed a war wraith and some how got the whole pit to fight eachother and would get xp for all the kills. Was crazy...

Occlusion · Post by **Occlusion** » January 17, 2004, 5:01 pm

I showed Xenaida and Rytan how to do this on the beta server a week or so ago, so it should be fixed soon, hopefully.

Xzion · Post by **Xzion** » January 17, 2004, 5:06 pm

best bug in EQ history= mage pet/horse bug when luclin came out
with a good 30-40 i tore Wwaste UP,

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » January 17, 2004, 5:22 pm

Warriors being able to rampage at will probably ranks higher.

Occlusion · Post by **Occlusion** » January 17, 2004, 5:25 pm

You can duo VZ/TZ with this bug, solo Glykus and Overseer, solo Vindicator, any UP nameds, any BoT wing nameds, etc.. And on top of that, it's an aa every 3-4 minutes solo in Tactics. It's pretty bad :\

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 17, 2004, 7:53 pm

miir wrote:Does that mean Fiends will be recruiting?

You looking for a new guild Effie? We could use another bard I suppose, would you mine boxing 2 of our clerics at the same time thou? That will really help.

On another note, a list of things Fiends is apparently responsible for:
The death of Jesus Christ
Nuclear bombing of Japan
Originally founding the KKK
Bringing new diseases to the Native Americans
Slavery

~

P.S. I am sure we've done something worse since the writing of this post, please just assume I did it. I am an evil evil man.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 17, 2004, 8:37 pm

Korell wrote:
miir wrote:Does that mean Fiends will be recruiting?
You looking for a new guild Effie? We could use another bard I suppose, would you mine boxing 2 of our clerics at the same time thou? That will really help.

On another note, a list of things Fiends is apparently responsible for:
The death of Jesus Christ
Nuclear bombing of Japan
Originally founding the KKK
Bringing new diseases to the Native Americans
Slavery

~

P.S. I am sure we've done something worse since the writing of this post, please just assume I did it. I am an evil evil man.

I heard you guys started AIDS and also are the reason for the moral decline of western society, dunno, just what I heard

Aslanna · Post by **Aslanna** » January 17, 2004, 8:50 pm

Pherr the Dorf wrote:I heard you guys started AIDS and also are the reason for the moral decline of western society, dunno, just what I heard

Don't forget Mad Cow disease.

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 17, 2004, 8:54 pm

Nah, that was Fiend Club/Chat.

We don't count those on the BKL because that was before we had a guild tag. You can personally blame myself and Vannor for the above problems thou.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 17, 2004, 9:38 pm

Korell wrote:Nah, that was Fiend Club/Chat.

We don't count those on the BKL because that was before we had a guild tag. You can personally blame myself and Vannor for the above problems thou.

Then my friend we should go drinking!

Dregor Thule · Post by **Dregor Thule** » January 17, 2004, 9:40 pm

Korell wrote:Bringing new diseases to the Native Americans

I can attest to the validaty of this one.

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 17, 2004, 9:57 pm

Dregor, that was Corel that gave you AIDs back in The Overthere. I never told you because I've been hiding our secret love child from this harsh reality.~

Pherr, make me a black russian pls.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 17, 2004, 10:41 pm

Korell wrote:
Pherr, make me a black russian pls.

/em grabs a can of spray paint and a funny hat (no Sylvos not a toboggan)

Aevian Dreaklear · Post by **Aevian Dreaklear** » January 17, 2004, 11:13 pm

Pherr the Dorf wrote:
Korell wrote:
Pherr, make me a black russian pls.
/em grabs a can of spray paint and a funny hat (no Sylvos not a toboggan)

Wow, this toboggan thing won't die. But in fairness I have heard it being referred to a hat as well.

Pherr the Dorf · Post by **Pherr the Dorf** » January 17, 2004, 11:18 pm

Aevian Dreaklear wrote:
Pherr the Dorf wrote:
Korell wrote:
Pherr, make me a black russian pls.
/em grabs a can of spray paint and a funny hat (no Sylvos not a toboggan)
Wow, this toboggan thing won't die. But in fairness I have heard it being referred to a hat as well.

This from a gnome raised in the midwest

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 1:24 am

miir wrote:Does that mean Fiends will be recruiting?

Yeah, just like when Taly witnessed us "sploit" RZtW and kill him instantly with the /kill command!

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 18, 2004, 1:38 am

No, this is more like a batch of cheating fucks (6 fiends and maybe a few others in this particular case) using this exploit to slaughter the entire tactics pit for 4 or 5 hours last night...

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 1:42 am

After all we only have one troll that's tactics flagged on this server!

*whistle*

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 18, 2004, 1:48 am

OMG!

You have a picture of a troll in PoTactics! You've got me now sir~

Nneena · Post by **Nneena** » January 18, 2004, 1:49 am

Are you denying it was you?

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 18, 2004, 1:51 am

GG, few FS people camping a thread hardcore here.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 18, 2004, 1:57 am

I don't "have" you at all, nor was that my intent... SS's aren't evidence for anything even if I was trying to get you into some kind of trouble. I'm merely pointing out that while you're not responsible for all of the world's woes, you are involved in some shady, inappropriate (and bannable) behavior, which was Effie's point in the first place.. It would be a complete tragedy to see upstanding citizens of Veeshan such as yourselves get into some trouble for using this exp exploit...

And no, not camping... just read it and saw you & Drinsic talking shit and threw in my $.02.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 2:02 am

Plead the 5th

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 18, 2004, 2:20 am

I highly doubt that a mere 10-20 people on the server are the only ones using a exploit. The thread was directed specifically at a certain guild, hence the defense by said guild. The same guy that used 121 people to down Xegony? Saying im doing something offensive?

Besides my porno posts on NWS, I have very little rep here. Not really bothering me if you don't like me. Why would you say that "Fiends" is doing it thou? If I saw someone from Farstorm doing something I wouldn't say the whole guild is doing it. Seems your just trying to knock us down a notch. *shrug*

P.S. I know you have uber macro hackers in your guild!~
0mg d00d, f4rst0rm 1s fu11 0f h4ck3r5!@!
*Please note the sarcasm~*

miir · Post by **miir** » January 18, 2004, 2:28 am

Sup Drinsic

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 2:44 am

what is ^ ocean?

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » January 18, 2004, 2:48 am

Tools. Only word that can describe you.

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 18, 2004, 2:53 am

I can't speak for Effie, but obviously Fiends isn't responsible for the existance of the exploit... Only an idiot would make that inference. It is without question, however, that a small group of people who also happen to be members of Fiends are abusing this exploit for all it's worth. Exploiting is bannable, and word on the street is that there have been a number of bannings across all servers over this particular exploit. Since you guys seem to be the ones using it the most, Effie's question seems to be legitimate? Will Fiends be recruiting to backfill your ass if/when you get banned?

Oh, and since my previous SS wasn't clear enough for you, here's a couple from about 15 minutes ago...

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 18, 2004, 3:06 am

Photoshop'd!~

Wow, your making me into a superstar here bro. I don't even know why ya picked me. *shrug* Maybe a fan of the porno links I posted.

Seriously, your pic shows us calling "camp" names and standing around a bunch of corpses. Not saying your trying to get me in trouble, but you are making it seem as if the only people doing this are Fiends. I suggest you check with your own members, especially Raistin, before you go throwing accusations.

Go ahead. Think its an exploit. Good, I hope you don't use it.

I don't name names of who uses what cheats or exploits. OMG bet you you use EQW~ Get off the soapbox and get back to planning what your going to do when PD hits Time and leaves the other 49 of its force behind.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 3:11 am

you see the bow? Obviously, I'm bow-kiting. Roofles

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 18, 2004, 3:18 am

Actually, no their not photoshop'd. That was a mistake. Upon further inspection I noticed that this was from our 1grp'd RZtW. We were obviously using the infamous "instant cast 0mana CH" (hence cherch) and the bug they had on the shaman DoT spell from LDoN, curse based. The dmg was being increased at an exponential rate, and we ended up doing 30k/tick before he finally dropped. The picture you including of Drinsic was him using his bow equipt with this augment we summoned thru ub9r hack, it proc'd AE Anger3 on the target. So, obviously, he kited the all the adds that summon during the fight around with a speedhack he picked up in Japan while learning JPN's sploit strats.

Unfortunely, only a mask and boots dropped from RZtW.. we were all sad and killed the adds~

P.S. We are a team of professional hackers that must be stopped at all costs. The fate of the world is in YOUR hands Xagyg... if you choose to accept it!@!

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » January 18, 2004, 3:24 am

I have 15 SSs also, along with logs. Id be more than happy to post them.

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 18, 2004, 3:28 am

sar·casm ( P ) Pronunciation Key (särkzm)
n.
A cutting, often ironic remark intended to wound.
A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 3:37 am

Post them! I seriously thought my bow kiting technice was hilarious

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 18, 2004, 3:47 am

Korell, the only reason I "picked you," is because you jumped into this discussion with your little "fiends are behind all the world's problems" spiel. When Drinsic posted his message trying to dismiss the whole thing as BS, I decided to post a SS that I happened to have from last night.. When I opened it up to crop it down to a reasonable size, low and behold there you were in it. Since you were seemingly trying to imply that you weren't involved I figured I should point out your presence.

I don't know you and I don't really care to. I'm not trying to get anyone busted for cheating, although those of you involved certainly deserve anything that you get as a result of your behavior. I'm merely pointing out that cheating via a faction exploit is happening, and that it's primarily a small number of Fiends that are taking advantage of the exploit. My posts have simply reinforced the point that Effie seems to have been making, and that you and Drinsic initially tried to dismiss.

Not sure where this hacker shit you're spewing is coming from since no one in this post has said jack about anything like that. Frankly I don't give any of you that much credit. Judging from what I've seen tonight, you are just another pathetic, cheating bitch that's now trying to somehow justify your miserable actions.

Korell · Post by **Korell** » January 18, 2004, 4:03 am

Gee, guess you didn't notice from my last post, but everything I have posted here is dripping with sarcasm. I even posted the definition for you. See, were laughing at how unfar a lot of Farstorm people think it is that we found a strategy in the plane of *tactics*, hint hint wink wink say no more. Kinda like the way you guys used PD to piggy a flag into the elemental planes? Oh, and that you did the same to get your first Fennin AND Xegony flags? Please tell me that throwing 121 people at Xegony is playing the game exactly how it was designed. Are your balls that big? Shit, I dunno, maybe you've been surrounded by your own soo long that you think this kind of stuff is normal. Yeah, 121 on Xegony. 2 Raids on RZtW. Shit, did you guys even have the balls enough to get the chamber flags for the SolRo fight or did you just use the EXPLOIT to piggy up people (yes, seeing as you can just have 32 chamber flags and get unlimited people in.. I think thats an exploit). The difference is, its just generally accepted, ya know.. just like the thing you and your sister do in Arkansas. Its generally accepted, and doesn't upset a lot of people so your allowed to continue to live in sin.

I am not trying to tell you that this is not a bannable offense. Shit, if I could, I'd try to convince you that killing mobs in elemental planes is a bannable offense. You see... I don't want you doing it.

Now if you will excuse me, were chilling with Kylorne in PoTactics. Delmax is here to pleading for you BAN_FIENDS movement. God, I mean, I know nothings really up today but are you that fucking bored? Maybe your just frustrated and tired of repaying PD by helping them farm more gear for their masses. Either way, I do sir, feel sorry that you don't like me.

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » January 18, 2004, 4:08 am

You talk a lot of shit. What your doing is exploiting.Not bannable? How about over 50 people already have been.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 4:16 am

Well how about a guide apparently found no exploitation in what we did, so uh, go cry elsewhere little buddy? Not to mention this little sploit you guys are so worked up about has been around for months and cleared by Darcfae ( le GM~ ) before =((

Good try, though!

Raistin · Post by **Raistin** » January 18, 2004, 4:21 am

because guides=clueless?

Denadeb · Post by **Denadeb** » January 18, 2004, 4:22 am

We all know Farstorm is sweet little angels that never do anything wrong don't we.
This shit cracks me up.

Nneena · Post by **Nneena** » January 18, 2004, 4:55 am

Xatrei · Post by **Xatrei** » January 18, 2004, 4:57 am

EDITED: At the request of the guide involved, who wishes to remain nameless, I have removed his name from this post and distorted his name in the image below.

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:Well how about ANON_GUIDE apparently found no exploitation in what we did, so uh, go cry elsewhere little buddy? Not to mention this little sploit you guys are so worked up about has been around for months and cleared by Darcfae before =((

Good try, though!

Oh? That statement struck me as rather unbelievable, so I figured I'd just ask ANON_GUIDE... He seemed rather suprised to find out that he had given the greenlight to continue abusing the exploit..

Occlusion · Post by **Occlusion** » January 18, 2004, 5:00 am

Well how about a guide apparently found no exploitation in what we did, so uh, go cry elsewhere little buddy?

Trying to argue that this isn't an exploit is flat out retarded. If you get caught using an exploit, at least be man enough to own up to it instead of acting innocent. I showed this to Xenaida and Rytan (developers

:(:() on the GoD beta server, and both were shocked. It took Rytan a few to figure out how to turn the Arena into instant respawns, even after instructions, but once he did I got them both a few AAs in 10 minutes. It's not a creative use of charm, faction, or 55+ mob death coding. It's exploiting, plain and simple.

That said, I could really care less if you exploit. Just don't act like you were innocent when you get caught.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 5:05 am

Well I just "took it up" with "the guide", since you've brought it up; at the current time he did not consider it an exploit, although not condoning it, his views do not represent SOEs. Thing is, what we're doing involves no bugs, no wall sploits, no pathing sploits, nothing against the rules. Just a bit of skill, two spells, and proper timing.

So have fun with those petitions =)

*~*stragi*~* · Post by ***~*stragi*~*** » January 18, 2004, 5:15 am

Drinsic Darkwood wrote:Well I just "took it up" with Kylorne, since you've brought it up; at the current time he did not consider it an exploit, although not condoning it, his views do not represent SOEs. Thing is, what we're doing involves no bugs, no wall sploits, no pathing sploits, nothing against the rules. Just a bit of skill, two spells, and proper timing.

So have fun with those petitions =)

Eh, its one big giant glaring bug acutally. Not that it really matters to anyone at all but, don't try to kid yourself ))

Occlusion · Post by **Occlusion** » January 18, 2004, 5:17 am

Thing is, what we're doing involves no bugs, no wall sploits, no pathing sploits, nothing against the rules. Just a bit of skill, two spells, and proper timing.

Well, you are right in a few places..

- It's not a pathing exploit.

- It's not a wall exploit.

- It requires two spells and proper timing.

Everything else is bullshit and you know it. Two factions of npcs are not meant to attack each other and yield experience for others. That, my friend is a bug. You are not meant to be able to pit a faction of mobs versus a boss mob (Glykus, Overseer, Vallon, and Tallon can all be taken down by an enchanter and a bard using this bug, I've watched it happen, and I've seen people banned for it.) These are *BUGS*. When you use game bugs to your advantage, that is an exploit. Following me so far?

By your logic, pathing exploits aren't really exploits because, well, the mobs are coded to get stuck running into a wall while you nuke them down. Quit the bullshit and admit you got caught. You insult the intelligence of everyone reading this thread and make yourself look stupid by taking advantage of one of the worst exp/loot exploits ever, and then saying it's okay. Just admit it and forget about it, ffs.

Oh, and it doesn't take skill. gg aggroing a pile of mobs and running over a bigger pile.

Drinsic Darkwood · Post by **Drinsic Darkwood** » January 18, 2004, 5:17 am

It's related to a specific spell and some factions that apparently haven't been nerfed enough yet. So basically you could say it's no more exploiting than AEing acrylia/deep pre-nerf, or soloing hall lords in BoT before charm nerf. Or taking down Xegony with over 100 people

/shrug

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