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Siji · Post by **Siji** » December 24, 2003, 12:33 pm

/mourn privacy

It's insane how much privacy people are giving up these days..

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/n ... ack21.html

"Clarke recently installed a tracking device called Followit in the Jeep Wrangler of his son, Gordon. It alerts him if Gordon, 17, has exceeded 60 mph or traveled beyond preset boundaries."

It wont be long now before all vehicles are required to have such a device, and that device is able to detect local speed limits, and transmit speeding occurrences.. welcome to receiving tickets in the mail.

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 24, 2003, 12:46 pm

it won't be long before cars drive themselves on superhighways, and the only way to facilitate this will be automated guidance shit.

this will shave massive times off of commutes and save kabillions of dollars in productivity. it will also greatly improve the quality of life for those who choose to partake.

on the subject of the kid's car above, considering the 16 year old didnt pay for the car and doesnt pay for the insurance, it really isn't up to him whether or not the car is being tracked is it. considering the way kids drive (i drove like a fucking lunatic), i would seriously consider this if it was cost effective for my kids. that being said with some kids the more you try to control their life the more their behavior will deviate from your desired resullt.

Mukyluk · Post by **Mukyluk** » December 24, 2003, 12:52 pm

how do you know he didnt buy the car, or pay the ins.?
i bought my first car at 16 and paid the ins. on it.....
nevet the less i still dont like the idea of a tracking device on anyones car..

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 24, 2003, 12:55 pm

i also bought my first car. but most kids dont. its a pretty safe assumption i think.

i have no problem with somebody putting monitoring equipment on their private property.

is it OK that i have an alarm on my house? if you were to open the door to my house right now, wait 30 seconds, a private monitoring company would notify the police to go to my house.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » December 24, 2003, 1:00 pm

Voronwë wrote:is it OK that i have an alarm on my house? if you were to open the door to my house right now, wait 30 seconds, a private monitoring company would notify the police to go to my house.

Not quite sure what that has to do with privacy and being tracked.

Zaelath · Post by **Zaelath** » December 24, 2003, 4:59 pm

Minors aren't even constitutionally protected and have no "right to privacy". Besides, if you want privacy move the fuck out.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 24, 2003, 5:10 pm

Siji wrote:Not quite sure what that has to do with privacy and being tracked.

It's his house he can do what he wants with it. Just like the guy putting a tracker on his son's jeep.

I would like to try whatever it is that you're smoking if you think that something like this will ever become mandatory for all vehicles on the road.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » December 24, 2003, 5:51 pm

kyoukan wrote:
Siji wrote:Not quite sure what that has to do with privacy and being tracked.
It's his house he can do what he wants with it. Just like the guy putting a tracker on his son's jeep.

Putting an alarm system in your house has nothing to do with privacy, other than perhaps keeping others from entering your private area. As for relating it to 'doing what he wants', ok.. a stretch, but ok.

kyoukan wrote:I would like to try whatever it is that you're smoking if you think that something like this will ever become mandatory for all vehicles on the road.

"Mandatory" is relative. How many cars are being sold with XM/Sirrius radios now? How about with GPS systems? How hard would it be to add a chip to track them? All part of the 'extra feature' you're paying for. Do you seriously think that if the technology got both inexpensive and dependable, that anyone could oppose the government from 'making the roads safer' by tracking people's speeds? How different is it from doing that to just hitting with a radar gun? Not much other than 100% monitoring as opposed to taking up man-hours to hold the guns & write the tickets. You're smart enough Kyo to know that our 'leaders' can get away with just about anything if they really want to.

kyoukan · Post by **kyoukan** » December 24, 2003, 5:53 pm

are you crazy? americans are totally paranoid about that kind of big brother stuff. they would have to put some kind of terrorism spin on it like osama bin laden regularly drives 20 mph over the speed limit. the government isn't just going to slip in some kind of tracking system into every car.

although a lot of cars do have something similar now anyway.

Siji · Post by **Siji** » December 24, 2003, 5:55 pm

kyoukan wrote:are you crazy? americans are totally paranoid about that kind of big brother stuff. they would have to put some kind of terrorism spin on it like osama bin laden regularly drives 20 mph over the speed limit.

Stranger things have happened..

Voronwë · Post by **Voronwë** » December 27, 2003, 4:05 pm

cell phones have gps...oh nos big brother!!!!!!!

Sionistic · Post by **Sionistic** » December 27, 2003, 4:41 pm

Do they still use those auto theft tracking devices?

Lohrno · Post by **Lohrno** » December 27, 2003, 5:36 pm

Siji wrote: It wont be long now before all vehicles are required to have such a device, and that device is able to detect local speed limits, and transmit speeding occurrences.. welcome to receiving tickets in the mail.

I will remove any such device that comes preinstalled in any car I buy or not buy a new car. And I am not going to install it in my daughter car when she gets that age if I have the option.

-=Lohrno

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