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That line was thrown in at the end of an IGN article discussing the poor scores of PS4's launch titles. I haven't seen any reports of hardware issues. What's up with that?The PlayStation 4 is set to launch on November 15 in North America and on November 29 in Europe, though reports are surfacing of hardware problems.
Initial production run. Some issues are bound to creep through. This isn't going to be the RRoD fiasco by any means I'm sure.Winnow wrote:That line was thrown in at the end of an IGN article discussing the poor scores of PS4's launch titles. I haven't seen any reports of hardware issues. What's up with that?The PlayStation 4 is set to launch on November 15 in North America and on November 29 in Europe, though reports are surfacing of hardware problems.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/14/ ... s4-reviews
I'm curious where they're getting their information on hardware issues. I haven't heard a thing about any PS4 hardware issues yet and didn't expect any.Animalor wrote: Initial production run. Some issues are bound to creep through. This isn't going to be the RRoD fiasco by any means I'm sure.
Not very useful. No gaming while sitting on the crapper yet.The bad news is that after extensive testing over the past two days, I've found that, in its current state, Remote Play is inconsistent. It won't work at all on our office Internet, it's laggy and choppy on Stephen's slow Brooklyn connection, and even on my home network, which is rather fast, I can't move very far from my television without losing connection.
No pants. No play.Another small annoyance: since the Vita doesn't have two back triggers, different games use different button configurations to account for that. Some of those configurations require the back touchpad of the Vita, which is very easy to accidentally bump and touch. (Especially if you're not wearing pants, and you decide to rest the Vita on your knee like you might with a controller.)
On tap!In short, the PS4′s GPU is — on paper — 50% more powerful than the Xbox One. The Xbox One’s slightly higher GPU clock speed might ameliorate some of the difference, but really, the PS4′s 50% higher CU count is a serious advantage for the Sony camp. Furthermore, Microsoft says that 10% of the Xbox One’s GPU is reserved for Kinect. Games on the PS4 will have a lot more available graphics power on tap.
Some here have went on an on about poor latency with DDR5 but I haven't really seen that mentioned in most articles. It sounds like a non-issue to me.Once we leave the CPU/GPU, the hardware specs of the Xbox One and PS4 start to diverge, with the RAM being the most notable difference. While both consoles are outfitted with 8GB of RAM, the PS4 opts for 5500MHz GDDR5 RAM (similar to what you’d find on a modern graphics card), and the Xbox One uses 2133MHz DDR3 RAM (the same as the main RAM in your PC). This leads to an absolutely massive bandwidth advantage in favor of the PS4 — the PS4′s CPU and GPU will have 176GB/sec of bandwidth to system RAM, while the Xbox One will have just 68.3GB/sec.
I know nothing about ESRAM other than what I head from Cerny, who said it was considered for the PS4 but they passed on it due to complexity for developers, and read on Wikipedia. It does sound like it's a good thing but the downside is it's complicated to program for. I don't expect games that are multiplatform to utilize it but I'd hope XBO exclusives would have the devs taking the time to learn how to incorporate it in their games or they are just shortchanging their customers. However even then it sounds like it basically matches the PS4's DDR5 so no real advantage other than cancelling out the PS4 advantage.In Microsoft’s favor, the Xbox One has 32MB of super-fast embedded SRAM (about 102GB/sec in each direction, for a total of 204GB/sec of bandwidth). If this ESRAM is used properly, as a cache, then it’s possible that the huge difference in main system RAM bandwidth can be ameliorated. This will most likely come down to individual developers (do they have the time and inclination to use the ESRAM?), and whether Microsoft makes it easy to use the ESRAM efficiently. It’s worth noting that the Xbox 360 used embedded DRAM, so it’s highly likely that Microsoft and developers will know how to make the most of it.
Fair and balanced!Despite the resolution difference and upscaling, though, there is visually very little difference between the Xbox One and PS4. By virtue of being based on the same GPU architecture, games on both consoles will look very, very similar — the same lighting, the same textures (presuming the Xbox One’s lower bandwidth isn’t a bottleneck), the same smoke, and so on. If you are playing games from a reasonable distance (10 feet, 3 meters), you are unlikely to see much, if any difference between the consoles.
I agree with that. I don't think developers working on multiplatform games will take the time to try and utilize ESRAM for the XBO or push things higher with the PS4. So your Assassin's Creeds, Call of Dutys, etc will be pretty much the same whether you are playing them on XBO or PS4. I'd expect console exclusives though, on both sides, to look and perform better than their multiplatform cousins.With that said, irrespective of whether developers can harness the Xbox One’s ESRAM, I don’t think Microsoft’s console will ever compete with the PS4′s larger GPU. I think the PS4 will always have the edge when it comes to raw graphics power, and thus higher output resolution and smoother frame rates. In reality, due to commercial restraints, I expect most cross-platform games will look virtually identical across the two consoles for their entire lifecycle. PS4 exclusives that take full advantage of the console’s superior hardware, though, such as masterpieces produced by Naughty Dog, will probably look significantly better than anything on the Xbox One.
That was their big mind blowing reveal? An Uncharted teaser with no date and no actual game play? They should have announced Uncharted 5 6 and 7 while they were at it to really get people pumped. Was it that or announcing that their first highly anticipated game, inFamous Second Sun, doesn't launch for another 4 months?Aslanna wrote:New Uncharted coming for the PS4! They really showed nothing though so I'd be surprised if it showed up within the next year.
Is that the guy who's exclusive launch title Knack received a 4/10?Aslanna wrote:I know nothing about ESRAM other than what I head from Cerny, who said it was considered for the PS4 but they passed on it due to complexity for developers, and read on Wikipedia.
I can see how those are TOTALLY related. Find me something proving him wrong in regards to utilizing esram. Just because you don't like what he says doesn't mean it's not true.Winnow wrote:Is that the guy who's exclusive launch title Knack received a 4/10?Aslanna wrote:I know nothing about ESRAM other than what I head from Cerny, who said it was considered for the PS4 but they passed on it due to complexity for developers, and read on Wikipedia.
My prediction. DR3 gets a 5 from Polygon. 6 tops! Ryse perhaps a 7. Forza 5 will probably get a 9.Whether the PS4 ends up doing well or not, the first 4 months look bleak for games. Xbox One's launch titles aren't amazing but they are definitely better. DR3 at least looks like a game you can screw around in for awhile.
PS4 launch puts strain on Playstation Network
Some users are having problems connecting to the PlayStation Network, after Sony noted a "very high volume" on the service following the midnight launch of the PS4. There's no word yet as to when these issues are likely to clear up.
With hundred of thousands of new consoles in the wild, and a significant 308MB firmware patch to download, it's perhaps unsurprising to see issues at this stage.
Sony said it thanks users for their patience, and through its Ask PlayStation account asked them to "please sit tight" for the time being. That account directs people to a PlayStation Forum thread for further updates, and we'll be keeping an eye on how things develop too.
Sony says "Please sit tight!A number of new PlayStation 4 owners have contacted IGN saying they're encountering the error numbers NW-31453-6 or NP-3500-8, along with text explaining "The network connection has been lost".
PS+ is key!Funkmasterr wrote:-Tons of free stuff for Plus - I never had it before so I hadn't paid attention.
Funkmasterr wrote: -I really like the controller, it's a little bigger and with the new trigger design it's it feels much better in the hands than the DS3.
-I think once I get used to where everything is, I'll really like the UI; it's laid out pretty intuitively.
-The store is fast! Even with the network issues last night, it was still pretty damn quick - a lot faster and more responsive than it ever was on the PS3!
-I'm definitely going to want to upgrade the hard drive sooner rather than later. I just wish you could get a 2TB SSD for cheap, but I'll have to figure something out - I upgraded my PS3 copy of Battlefield to the PS4 and that was a 58GB download, and Assassin's Creed took up about 20GB.
-It was awesome to see all the full release games available for digital purchase in the store - if games are going to need to be installed anyhow - buying them digitally makes sense. Although I hope there is some way to backup your copies - since it won't be feasible to keep your library on your console once you get a lot of games, and you're not gonna want to re-download stuff all the time.
-Tons of free stuff for Plus - I never had it before so I hadn't paid attention.
People upgrading the hard drive should make sure the one they purchase fits. I believe they have to be 9.2mm or less. So far the largest traditional drive you can get is maybe 1.5TB although I think Seagate just came out with a 2TB that will fit.Winnow wrote:-hard drive is the loudest thing so far in the console. Eventually need to upgrade that to an SSD 1TB when they're cheaper to get rid of the noise. It's not bad, just the wind up sounds mostly.
You're like the only person in the history of ever to mention this as an issue.-you actually do see the controller blue glowing light reflection on your TV screen. That sucks.
Also the only person ever to say the DS4 wasn't as good (or better) than the 360 controller. But you have a heavy bias on that so it's to be expected.-Controller is definably better than PS3 but not as good as the 360 controller. They didn't go far enough with the ergonomics and the left joystick needs to be swapped with the D-pad. I'm switching between it and the 360 controller as I comment here. On the PS4, your fingers overshoot the buttons so you need to kind of hold the controller handles not in the palm of your hand where it would be most comfortable but rest the handles closer to your finders. Triggers are better but the R1 and L1 buttons don't flow well into the triggers for transitioning between the two. Also the R1/L1 bumpers buttons don't wrap around to the sides which makes getting to them a lot easier on the 360. I really like how you can have the top part of your index finger on the R1/R2 buttons while the lower part is on the triggers with the 360 controller. Top of joysticks are much better.
You don't NEED it to set it vertical... Give it a try! It's quite stable without it. If you have small children or animals who run head first into things then you might want to consider it. I think it's $15 or $20.-console feels solid laying flat. I guess you'd have to buy the additional stand to set it upright $$.
From what I have heard: Blue means it's starting. White means it's good to go. And red is an overheating warning.-Console had a white light on the top of it (I assume the colors change). Not sure if it will be distracting yet.
I think that was one of the complaints Polygon had.. The streaming video quality. Or maybe it was the capture from the Share button. Even on high bandwidth it apparently looks fairly compressed. It would be nice if that was a setting though.-Twitch integration is good so far. There's a bunch of people live streaming from their PS4's. The video quality isn't so hot. That probably has to do with most people having crappy upstream bandwidth. Good job on that though. You should be able to easily always check out games you're interested in by watching others.
Although that only looks like 4. What's the last one?!At launch the PlayStation 4 will have a set of basic voice commands that will allow players to start games, turn off the system and take screenshots, said Toshi Aoki, part of the PS4 hardware team. While Aoki couldn't provide a full list he did detail five of the voice commands supported.
When a player says the title of a game while in the PS4's dynamic menu it drops the player into the content info screen for that game, bringing up a game-centric screen for the title.
Players can also say "take a screenshot" to capture a image of the screen instantly. While voice commands can't be used to start a DVR recording yet, Aoki said that the team is currently working on adding that support.
A player can also say "login" and then a select from the listed users, which are each assigned numbers, to login a user.
Finally, a player can say power to drop into the system functions power screen where they can then say to power off the system or go into standby mode.
At least it is a good warning sign that there are potential issues. No red light for me yet. Top of the console is pretty warm but the fan seesm to be doing its job so far. Internal PSU has me a little worried.IGN users and other folks online are reporting problems with their PlayStation 4 -- a mysterious, blinking red light atop the hardware. Many feared ahead of the console's launch that this "red line of death" indicated PS4's fail state, meaning the next-gen console was dead. This is not the case. Here's the deal.
If you boot your PS4 and find yourself staring at a frightening red power indicator, it means your PS4 is overheating. But don't fret -- it's not bricked, it hasn't melted, and it probably won't explode. The machine just needs time to cool down, so step away and try again later. If you have persistent issues, if your PS4 breaks for other reasons, check IGN's PS4 problems wiki page and call 1-800-345-SONY. For the full breakdown of how PS4's hardware works, you can read the instruction manual online.
HA!Aslanna wrote:I still can't get on. PSN sucks!
Isn't Wii U just an add on for the Wii? Blame Nintendo for not marketing it properly. And for naming it something totally stupid.Dakanaf wrote:I love all the articles out today with the headlines of "first new console in 7 years to kick off new generation" just completely forgetting the wii u. Retards.
