Space Shuttle - End of an Era

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it's true! I remember as I kid I aspired to be an astronaut.. It didn't happen but eh.. What do kids aspire to be these days!
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Atlantis and four astronauts returned from the International Space Station in triumph Thursday, bringing an end to NASA's 30-year shuttle journey with one last, rousing touchdown that drew cheers and tears.

Thousands gathered near the landing strip and packed Kennedy Space Center, and countless others watched from afar, as NASA's longest-running space flight program came to a close.

"After serving the world for over 30 years, the space shuttle's earned its place in history. And it's come to a final stop," commander Christopher Ferguson radioed.

"Job well done, America," replied Mission Control.

With the space shuttles retiring to museums, it will be another three to five years at best before Americans are launched again from U.S. soil, as private companies gear up to seize the Earth-to-orbit-and-back baton from NASA.

The long-term future for American space exploration is just as hazy -- a huge concern for many at NASA and all those losing their jobs because of the shuttle's end. Asteroids and Mars are the destinations of choice, but NASA has yet to settle on a rocket design to get astronauts there.

Thursday, though, belonged to Atlantis and its crew: Ferguson, copilot Douglas Hurley, Rex Walheim and Sandra Magnus, who completed a resupply mission to the International Space Station.

Atlantis touched down at 5:57 a.m., with wheels-stop less than a minute later.

"The space shuttle has changed the way we view the world, and it's changed the way we view our universe," Ferguson radioed from Atlantis. "There's a lot of emotion today, but one thing's indisputable. America's not going to stop exploring."

For the landing, there wasn't nearly the hoopla that surrounded Atlantis' launch July 8 -- when an estimated 1 million people packed the Cape Canaveral area. The darkness robbed virtually all views of the approaching shuttle.

Still, Atlantis was greeted with cheers, whistles and shouts from the record 2,000 who had gathered near the runway -- astronauts' families and friends, as well as shuttle managers and NASA brass.

"The things that we've done have set us up for exploration of the future," said NASA Administrator Charles Bolden Jr., a former shuttle commander. "But I don't want to talk about that right now. I just want to salute this crew, welcome them home."

It was the 135th mission for the space shuttle fleet, which altogether flew 542 million miles and circled Earth 21,152 times in the past three decades. The five shuttles carried 355 people from 16 countries, and spent 1,333 days in space -- almost four years.
Two vehicles and their crews lost in 30 years. Definitely a loss but exploration comes with a price. I don't think any of those involved would choose differently if they could.

On January 28, 1986, Challenger disintegrated 73 seconds after launch due to the failure of the right SRB, killing all seven astronauts on board. The disaster was caused by low-temperature impairment of an O-ring, a mission critical seal used between segments of the SRB casing. The failure of a lower O-ring seal allowed hot combustion gases to escape from between the booster sections and burn through the adjacent external tank, causing it to disintegrate. Repeated warnings from design engineers voicing concerns about the lack of evidence of the O-rings' safety when the temperature was below 53 °F (12 °C) had been ignored by NASA managers.

STS-51-L crew:
* Francis R. Scobee—Mission Commander
* Michael J. Smith—Pilot
* Gregory B. Jarvis—Payload Specialist 1
* Christa McAuliffe—Payload Specialist 2
* Judith A. Resnik—Mission Specialist 1
* Ellison S. Onizuka—Mission Specialist 2
* Ronald E. McNair—Mission Specialist 3
On February 1, 2003, Columbia disintegrated during re-entry, killing its crew of seven, because of damage to the carbon-carbon leading edge of the wing caused during launch. Ground control engineers had made three separate requests for high-resolution images taken by the Department of Defense that would have provided an understanding of the extent of the damage, while NASA's chief thermal protection system (TPS) engineer requested that astronauts on board Columbia be allowed to leave the vehicle to inspect the damage. NASA managers intervened to stop the Department of Defense's assistance and refused the request for the spacewalk, and thus the feasibility of scenarios for astronaut repair or rescue by Atlantis were not considered by NASA management at the time

* Commander: Rick D. Husband, a U.S. Air Force colonel and mechanical engineer, who piloted a previous shuttle during the first docking with the International Space Station (STS-96).
* Pilot: William C. McCool, a U.S. Navy commander
* Payload Commander: Michael P. Anderson, a U.S. Air Force lieutenant colonel and physicist who was in charge of the science mission.
* Payload Specialist: Ilan Ramon, a colonel in the Israeli Air Force and the first Israeli astronaut.
* Mission Specialist: Kalpana Chawla, an Indian-born aerospace engineer was on her second space mission.
* Mission Specialist: David M. Brown, a U.S. Navy captain trained as an aviator and flight surgeon. Brown worked on a number of scientific experiments.
* Mission Specialist: Laurel Clark, a U.S. Navy captain and flight surgeon. Clark worked on a number of biological experiments.
Although I'm sure mismanagement from NASA they'd probably change. Both of those accidents could have been prevented.
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The early days of the Shuttle were just awesome.

I followed all the launches and collected each mission's patch. I was asleep when the shuttle blew up in 1986. My brother woke me up. I cried in the shower (manly tears, but still), knowing full well how far back it would set our space program. At that time, we had goals of putting a man on Mars by 2010. Now, we may never do it.

I used to collect important event newspapers back then. Next to my December 7th, 1941 newspaper, the shuttle's first launch is my favorite. The late 70's kind of sucked for NASA. Besides Skylab, there wasn't much manned exploration going on. The Shuttle launching in 1981 was huge.

I suggest watching 10 minutes of Network coverage of the first launch in 1981 to get a feeling for how it was back then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6Bt1pZ4Is
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We had the live feed in my school of the Challenger launch. Pretty sure that was the first and last live launch to be shown. One of my teachers had been going through the program to be the teacher on that flight. I also remember being super jealous of the kids in the movie Space Camp! My grandfather lived in Houston, and I have pictures of a launch he went to go see when his neighbor was going on his first mission. I can't remember which of the Columbia missions it was, but it was back before they stopped painting the center fuel section.
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good riddance. should have been shut down years ago, if not decades. there's no telling how far our space program would be today without that massively expensive failure.
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I don't care that the shuttles are retired. It was neat when it was new, but it should have been retired in the 90s. I'm just pissed off that the bufoons we send to DC allowed it to happen without a replacement program in place (or even close). That's the real tragedy in this, not that we're retiring an almost 40 year old program.
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I don't see anyone arguing about shutting it down. 30 years ago is was awesome. 20 years ago it was still awesome and by then a replacement delivery vehicle should have been in place for a smooth transition in the early 2000's.

How can you call the Space Shuttle program a failure? What a fucking moron.
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Thanks for biting


objectively, the shuttle program was a total failure. it was billed as a way to safely, frequently, and cost-effectively transport people and payloads into low earth orbit, and it failed on all three of those selling points.

it was supposed to be able to handle 65 launches per year at $50 million per launch. In actuality, it averaged 5 launches per year at $450 million per launch. The fallout and investigations from the Columbia and particularly the Challenger disasters revealed not that it was unthinkable for those accidents to occur, but that it was unthinkable that more did NOT occur.

There is a reason that the Constellation project started-- a project which would have been able to come to fruition had we cancelled the shuttle program instead of wasting all of our time and funding on it. Now, tellingly, we're going to be hitching rides from countries that didn't make the colossal mistakes that we did and continued to use the ACTUALLY cheap and reliable methods that we should have already developed for ourselves but can no longer afford. And aside from having been able to develop a better low-earth orbit solution, there's no telling what benefits those funds would have had on vastly more significant but notoriously underfunded missions, like the Mars polar lander and deep space 2.

so yeah, total failure. but a totally way cool one, and i'm not trying to take that away.
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The program was setback due to the loss of the Challenger. Your figures go out the door after that happened. It doesn't make it a failure unless you expect 100% success with manned missions in space. The failure comes from administrations cutting NASA's budget. Bush tried to get us back on track with a program to put a man/woman (shman!) on Mars. Obama cut it. Nice. I don't want to hear about unmanned probes. I'd quadruple the budget for them as well.

How'd we fix the Hubble Space telescope? Did we launch some robots up into orbit to fix it in some delivery vehicle I'm not aware of?

Our space program is going in reverse.

2011: Nothing
1981: Space Shuttle
1969: Manned Missions to the Moon

Flip that shit around and it sounds like a pretty good plan.

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Hope they haven't started stripping the shuttles yet. Two failed failed Russian launches in the last 10 days! Unmanned at least.
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